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Putin invades two area's in Ukraine

BCSpell said:
Never said he didn't. But he waited until after they took Crimea, and the sanctions were not crippling. Now, even though Ukraine's Government has been asking for the sanctions against Russia, to maybe deter Putin, once again, the US, now under Biden, waited until after Putin started invading.
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The only way the sanctions work as a deterrent is if you hold them out until he invades. All earlier sanctions would have done is provoke him. If we already sanctioned him......why not go ahead and invade?

Likely wouldn't have made any difference anyway. Putin can't live with Ukraine having closer ties to NATO and the west. He was going to do something to stop that no matter what we did.
 
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Putin only invaded because of WEAKNESS, and probably some back door agreements from Brandon. This reeks of back door agreements, especially when Brandon at first said America would do nothing with a small incursion
 
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Capt Ron 1 said:
Our "problems"? No, they are not,,but China is. And China smells weakness on a level we have not seen since the Carter administration. So indirectly, they ARE our problem, ever since the disgraceful exit from Afghanistan, leaving thousands of Americans behind enemy lines because you closed a base, and evacuated the military too soon
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We should never have been in Afghanistan to begin with, much less spent 20+ years there.
I'm fine with getting out, as Trump was in the process of doing.

Brandon, with the help of some cowardly senior military officials, screwed the pooch when leaving.
I am for leaving. I'm not for how the Rats did it.
That's a separate issue to what China is doing.

Trump put heavy tariffs on China and was dealing with then the way we should be dealing with them,,, sorta. If it was me, I'd end all trade with China and bar our ports to their container ships.

Our time and effort would be better spent in dealing with Central and South America.
What I would not do is engage in a full out war with China over Hong Kong or Taiwan....
And the same goes for South Korea imo.... I'd be out of their coming civil war with the N.K.
The 'Domino Theory' was a PoS scam on American citizens, beginning with Korea, then VN.
(The domino theory is an unproven geopolitical theory that was prominent in the United States from the 1950s to the 1980s (actually continues to today) which posited that if one country in a region came under the influence of communism, then the surrounding countries would follow in a domino effect.)

JMOHO, but right now, Mexico is a bigger threat to the U.S. than either Russia or China.
Russia and China are being used to draw attention away from the Southern Border crisis where we are being actively and continuously INVADED by a now 30+ million strong ARMY OF CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS from over 100 different countries. Are people blind, stupid, or both???
 
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instaGATOR said:
JMOHO, but right now, Mexico is a bigger threat to the U.S. than either Russia or China.
Russia and China are being used to draw attention away from the Southern Border crisis where we are being actively and continuously INVADED by a now 30+ million strong ARMY OF CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS from over 100 different countries. Are people blind, stupid, or both???
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Mexico and the Central American countries are doing exactly what Castro did to us in the late 70's.
They are exporting their impoverished and criminal elements so they don't have to pay for them.
Anyone who lived in Miami during Mariel has seen this movie before.
The Marxists on the left are all to willing to participate under the guise of humanitarian sentiment. However, the increase in low income entitlement spending will crash the system and the increase in low income immigrants will swell their voter rolls which will usher in what they are really after...socialism.
The ruling class hates capitalism...now that they are in the ruling class. By having complete control over the political class they get to pick the winners and losers.
 
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There are lessons that the Socialist DC Rats are forgetting about, or they are hoping that we've forgotten about.

Lesson #1 -- The King of England (1765-(1776)-1791)

Lesson #2 -- The Emperor of Japan (1941-1945)

The Giant may be sleeping, but I'm betting that he's not dead yet....
 
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instaGATOR said:
We should never have been in Afghanistan to begin with, much less spent 20+ years there.
I'm fine with getting out, as Trump was in the process of doing.

Brandon, with the help of some cowardly senior military officials, screwed the pooch when leaving.
I am for leaving. I'm not for how the Rats did it.
That's a separate issue to what China is doing.

Trump put heavy tariffs on China and was dealing with then the way we should be dealing with them,,, sorta. If it was me, I'd end all trade with China and bar our ports to their container ships.

Our time and effort would be better spent in dealing with Central and South America.
What I would not do is engage in a full out war with China over Hong Kong or Taiwan....
And the same goes for South Korea imo.... I'd be out of their coming civil war with the N.K.
The 'Domino Theory' was a PoS scam on American citizens, beginning with Korea, then VN.
(The domino theory is an unproven geopolitical theory that was prominent in the United States from the 1950s to the 1980s (actually continues to today) which posited that if one country in a region came under the influence of communism, then the surrounding countries would follow in a domino effect.)

JMOHO, but right now, Mexico is a bigger threat to the U.S. than either Russia or China.
Russia and China are being used to draw attention away from the Southern Border crisis where we are being actively and continuously INVADED by a now 30+ million strong ARMY OF CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS from over 100 different countries. Are people blind, stupid, or both???
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I totally agree with you about exiting Afghanistan. however, NO ONE in their right mind would have closed Bagram, and evacuated the military before getting innocent Americans out of the Country. I believe the military told this to Brandon...and he ignored the advice. Remember...in 48 years in politics...he has been on the wrond side of EVERY decision he has ever made...including being one of, if not THE only person that did not want to go after OBL.
 
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instaGATOR said:
We should never have been in Afghanistan to begin with, much less spent 20+ years there.
I'm fine with getting out, as Trump was in the process of doing.

Brandon, with the help of some cowardly senior military officials, screwed the pooch when leaving.
I am for leaving. I'm not for how the Rats did it.
That's a separate issue to what China is doing.

Trump put heavy tariffs on China and was dealing with then the way we should be dealing with them,,, sorta. If it was me, I'd end all trade with China and bar our ports to their container ships.

Our time and effort would be better spent in dealing with Central and South America.
What I would not do is engage in a full out war with China over Hong Kong or Taiwan....
And the same goes for South Korea imo.... I'd be out of their coming civil war with the N.K.
The 'Domino Theory' was a PoS scam on American citizens, beginning with Korea, then VN.
(The domino theory is an unproven geopolitical theory that was prominent in the United States from the 1950s to the 1980s (actually continues to today) which posited that if one country in a region came under the influence of communism, then the surrounding countries would follow in a domino effect.)

JMOHO, but right now, Mexico is a bigger threat to the U.S. than either Russia or China.
Russia and China are being used to draw attention away from the Southern Border crisis where we are being actively and continuously INVADED by a now 30+ million strong ARMY OF CRIMINAL ILLEGAL ALIENS from over 100 different countries. Are people blind, stupid, or both???
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I do have to disagree here. We have TREMENDOUS leverage over Mexico, and if the Brandon administration WANTED to curb illegals from entering our Country..he could make it happen, just like Trump did. China and Russia are two totally different nuclear powers, and smell blood in the water with weak ass Brandon in charge.
 
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Just wondering what you guys think of Trump saying this at this time:

"I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful," Trump said in a radio interview with “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show." "He used the word ‘independent’ and 'we're gonna go out and we're gonna go in and we're gonna help keep peace.’ You gotta say that's pretty savvy."
 
Illegal-shift said:
Just wondering what you guys think of Trump saying this at this time:

"I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful," Trump said in a radio interview with “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show." "He used the word ‘independent’ and 'we're gonna go out and we're gonna go in and we're gonna help keep peace.’ You gotta say that's pretty savvy."
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He’s right.
While it’s horrible it is pretty savvy. Create a fake crisis and then come rushing in to crush it.
Hell it’s straight out of the democrats playbook...gun control - 400 killed every year with rifles/gotta ban assault rifles, domestic terrorism - unarmed idiots stormed the capital to break windows and take selfies/biggest threat to our democracy, police reform…
 
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Illegal-shift said:
Just wondering what you guys think of Trump saying this at this time:

"I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful," Trump said in a radio interview with “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show." "He used the word ‘independent’ and 'we're gonna go out and we're gonna go in and we're gonna help keep peace.’ You gotta say that's pretty savvy."
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I think your TDS never stops.
 
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LauderdaleNole said:
He’s right.
While it’s horrible it is pretty savvy. Create a fake crisis and then come rushing in to crush it.
Hell it’s straight out of the democrats playbook...gun control - 400 killed every year with rifles/gotta ban assault rifles, domestic terrorism - unarmed idiots stormed the capital to break windows and take selfies/biggest threat to our democracy, police reform…
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Bingo. Funny thing is, the same folks crying about this disinformation campaign, can’t see their own power brokers are doing similar disinformation campaigns to them
 
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We know the media will not cover the Ukraine situation in depth or accurately. As they have not covered our energy, border, crime, inflation situations in depth or accurately. As this would require them to admit their lack of in depth coverage of Biden and their obsession with getting rid of Trump. This is on the media and big tech.
 
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jfegaly said:
Bingo. Funny thing is, the same folks crying about this disinformation campaign, can’t see their own power brokers are doing similar disinformation campaigns to them
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in...3...2...1
Democrats will crank up the rhetoric on the 5 trillion dollar green new deal plan. This is why we need to spend like drunken sailors and eliminate our dependence, and Europe's dependence, on fossil fuels.
 
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Illegal-shift said:
Just wondering what you guys think of Trump saying this at this time:

"I went in yesterday and there was a television screen, and I said, ‘This is genius.’ Putin declares a big portion of the Ukraine — of Ukraine — Putin declares it as independent. Oh, that's wonderful," Trump said in a radio interview with “The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show." "He used the word ‘independent’ and 'we're gonna go out and we're gonna go in and we're gonna help keep peace.’ You gotta say that's pretty savvy."
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Let me ask you a question. Name two Presidenrs in America's last three administrations that Putin aggressively invaded other Countries, will little to none repercussions! I will check back later for your answer!
 
GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Hiden is about to drag us into WW3 just to create a new scapegoat for his disastrous presidency, and all @sadgator and this clown can talk about is Trump.

Sheep never notice when they are getting fleeced.
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Do you think there will EVER be a moment when these communist/socialist posters we have here will admit that their "horse" is an utter failure? Also, can ANYONE make the claim after only ONE year, that America is better off today, than it was last year?
 
tb8232 said:
We know the media will not cover the Ukraine situation in depth or accurately. As they have not covered our energy, border, crime, inflation situations in depth or accurately. As this would require them to admit their lack of in depth coverage of Biden and their obsession with getting rid of Trump. This is on the media and big tech.
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We know that 93% of our media outlets are carrying the water for the left..it has been proven. we also know that those outlets have VERY poor viewership. Thankfully, what that means is there are not as many stupid people in America as one may have thought.
 
jfegaly said:
Bingo. Funny thing is, the same folks crying about this disinformation campaign, can’t see their own power brokers are doing similar disinformation campaigns to them
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I know a guy who is married to a woman from Russia. Her relatives visit south Florida frequently. My point is they converse daily. Apparently our media is as state driven as theirs is, and we are not getting the full story here. When looking for articles about what is happening over there, go to international sources, then evaluate if THAT media is cuck driven as well. Keep your heads on a swivel. Coach X
 
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NavigatorII said:
I know a guy who is married to a woman from Russia. Her relatives visit south Florida frequently. My point is they converse daily. Apparently our media is as state driven as theirs is, and we are not getting the full story here. When looking for articles about what is happening over there, go to international sources, then evaluate if THAT media is cuck driven as well. Keep your heads on a swivel. Coach X
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Agree man. I guess it’s a matter of the ole…..can’t be happening in my house syndrome.

We are at a very interesting place in history. “Woke” needs to take on new meaning.

Sucks because most of my life has been lived, but my kids…..

Only thing I know is tons of prayer my friend
 
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Capt Ron 1 said:
Let me ask you a question. Name two Presidenrs in America's last three administrations that Putin aggressively invaded other Countries, will little to none repercussions! I will check back later for your answer!
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Make that 3 of the last 4...
Russia went after Georgia in 2008.
Just for clarity to our intellectually challenged friends on the left...Georgia the country not Kirby's Bulldogs.
 



I hope we aren't crazy enough to try some big cyber attack on Russian interests as I am sure they would respond with something as big or bigger.
 
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JimGaster said:
China Joe is an illegitimate, corrupt, racist rotting bag of bones.

He has been on Russian & Chinese payrolls for decades!
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Glad to see Jim back in his cesspool! I thought he was on ukraines payroll. Now it’s Russia and China? Get your fake facts straight!

Illegitimate - No
Corrupt - Maybe but not as bad as trump
Racist -
 
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I hope we aren't crazy enough to try some big cyber attack on Russian interests as I am sure they would respond with something as big or bigger.
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Good luck with that ….

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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Hiden is about to drag us into WW3 just to create a new scapegoat for his disastrous presidency, and all @sadgator and this clown can talk about is Trump.

Sheep never notice when they are getting fleeced.
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The really sad part, if Biden had kept America energy independent, Russia most likely would not be doing this right now. The high priced oil/natural gas is paying for it.
 
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Capt Ron 1 said:
Let me ask you a question. Name two Presidenrs in America's last three administrations that Putin aggressively invaded other Countries, will little to none repercussions! I will check back later for your answer!
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You didn't answer my question.
 
Capt Ron 1 said:
We are OK with regular curriculum...its the CRT that will not work. Tired of indoctrination instead of education
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CRT is not taught in any public schools... and 99.9% of people that are not ok with CRT dont even know what it is.

The joke about science though is real... So many people would rather take there medical advise from twitter over doctors.
 
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