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You are an idiot who cannot read. I have been saying on this board for years that I am partisan, and like the clueless dolt that you are, you think you are hearing that for the first time? Man, you are stupid.

From May of last year, but of course you can't read or retain

Biden won't go and comfort any victims where the black guy is the bad guy. Too bad you can't admit that. You are incredibly partisan in defending Biden. At least, I am honest about being a partisan. You are VERY dishonest about your partianship. Have you ever started a thread...
Oh I know you have said that you're partisan but you also denied saying it. Guess it depends on the thread and day with you 🤷🏽‍♂️
 
It's a tool and it would help stem the tide. Without an effective barrier, I honestly don't know how I would begin to control the problem.0

Oh I know you have said that you're partisan but you also denied saying it. Guess it depends on the thread and day with you 🤷🏽‍♂️
Oh now you admit that I have said I was partisan. When? Today or last May? I proved to you that I had told you I was partisan. Now prove to me I have denied it.
Edit: You prove that you are one big liar who makes up stuff and a coward from just running away from your lie like a scared little kid.
 
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It would make more of a difference than a small reduction.

An effective barrier would also allow for more human resources to be available at points of entry, thus cutting into another entry point.



Want to get depressed...check out the statistics on recovery. Less than 12% of these types of addicts will ever get clean. Short of mass lobotomies, I don't see how we rid ourselves of the demand.

Some people might say that fentanyl itself is, in a twisted way, the solution to the demand.
Great stuff. I still think small reduction but we have to do more.
 
I ran around with a crowd that liked to party, and I never ran into Angel dust. I graduated in 1995 to give you a time frame.

I saw coke, meth (alot), lsd, mushrooms (and of course pot) and heard about heroin but - with one exception - never saw it. The exception was called "H-Bomb" and we were told it was a pressed pill of heroin and cocaine meant to mimic the effects of MDMA...basically it's a speedball. I guess real ecstasy wasn't getting to central OK at the time. None of my friends who took it ever had any issues other than it made them throw up almost immediately and they felt awful the next day. They seemed to enjoy everything in between though.

Either way, I don't think you can compare the deadliness of PCP to Fentanyl. A tiny spec of pure fent will drop you dead in your tracks. It's hard to even find statistics on PCP deaths, and a majority are from acting a fool and not the drug shutting your body down.
Deadliness? Absolutely not.
Pure fentanyl is lethal. That said, much easier to deal with someone on fentanyl than pcp. Or bath salts. Or crack.
 
I agree again but for those guys to make it seem like a wall would end it, is nonsense.
A completed wall with guard towers every mile and armed sentries with orders to shoot anyone coming over, through, or under the wall would do 90% of it.

But I'm still in favor of a 1/4 mile wide mine-field with underground acoustic detectors.
I might also add towers spread out along the border with short range tracking radar and automated mini-guns for ending the smaller drug carrying drones.

There is existing tech to end this scourge.
What is lacking is the will power to do what is needed.

Make me the Border Czar and I'd end the border problems in short order....

Because I'd do whatever is necessary to get the job done, to secure the U.S. Sovereign Borders. --- 🤓
 
A completed wall with guard towers every mile and armed sentries with orders to shoot anyone coming over, through, or under the wall would do 90% of it.

But I'm still in favor of a 1/4 mile wide mine-field with underground acoustic detectors.
I might also add towers spread out along the border with short range tracking radar and automated mini-guns for ending the smaller drug carrying drones.

There is existing tech to end this scourge.
What is lacking is the will power to do what is needed.

Make me the Border Czar and I'd end the border problems in short order....

Because I'd do whatever is necessary to get the job done, to secure the U.S. Sovereign Borders. --- 🤓
True, but then again you are quite mad.
 
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I meant personally. I'm sure not going to rise from the grave in my dealers defense. And my mother would want the dealer charged with everything including for unlawful carnal knowledge.

Fentanyl is killing people who in my estimation are stupid or without value to society. But they are still Americans and China is the one doing the dealing so that shit needs to stop with a quickness.
No doubt that there are opioid junkies that make up a bulk of the numbers, but there are a lot of kids just making mistakes with counterfeit pills.

 
Deadliness? Absolutely not.
Pure fentanyl is lethal. That said, much easier to deal with someone on fentanyl than pcp. Or bath salts. Or crack.
Yea, Fent isn’t going to make you want to chew off someone’s face.
 
No doubt that there are opioid junkies that make up a bulk of the numbers, but there are a lot of kids just making mistakes with counterfeit pills.

Those kids need better parenting/guidance.
 
I thought the border was secure BUT yet fentanyl is getting in because Trump needed a wall. LMAO!
One more time, and very slowly. Do you put your boat plug in before you launch? Do you lock your front door before you go to bed? Do you not buy homeowners insurance because hurricanes and fires are going to happen anyway? Democrats HATE all of these precautions.

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Deadliness? Absolutely not.
Pure fentanyl is lethal. That said, much easier to deal with someone on fentanyl than pcp. Or bath salts. Or crack.

The hardest part about dealing with someone using fentanyl is the dead weight. Sometimes literally, other times just comatose.
 
No doubt that there are opioid junkies that make up a bulk of the numbers, but there are a lot of kids just making mistakes with counterfeit pills.


There's no doubt that it's out there. I arrested a guy with a 1 gallon zip lock bag of fentanyl that looked EXACTLY like Skittles Easter colored candy.

People accidentally ingest fentanyl in all sorts of ways including the apocryphal warnings of "spiked" weed. Fentanyl is cheap and it's intense so of course drug dealers use it.
 
One more time, and very slowly. Do you put your boat plug in before you launch? Do you lock your front door before you go to bed? Do you not buy homeowners insurance because hurricanes and fires are going to happen anyway? Democrats HATE all of these precautions.

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Border was secure
 
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Border was secure
The border is only as secure as the current administration handling itl Our border hasn't been secure in a couple of decades. My point is that Trump "tried to fix it". He got zero cooperation from the retards in the Dimtard camp. What Trump did do is keep the les miserables out until they could be properly processed, in spite of the libtard ACLU and Soros groups doing their best to encourage illegal crossings. Trump did make one good thing happen with fake WuKungFlu, he made the great fake unwashed wait on the Mexican side of the border with "wait in Mexico" due to Covid. So he used the Dimtard blade against them and bayonetted them with it. 😍 In May, "wait in Mexico" emergency order expires. Not sure if the SCOTUS will extend it. The current moron chief of DHS seems determined to let the invaders pillage the Alamo. Don't act like this is something new or pretend you are a moron, educate yourself. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
 
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I think the point is that fentanyl has become far more prevalent in this country since Biden's inauguration. I think that's true for two reasons...

1. China is flooding the world with fentanyl

2. Our southern border has become a sieve because illegal immigrants believe that if they can get across, they will likely be allowed to stay. That overwhelming flood has made it more difficult to stop the flow of things like fentanyl.

On that second note, as a LEO, we don't even detain illegals anymore and yes, we used to under Trump. When Obama was in office, from what I understand, it was the same (I wasn't a LEO under Obama).

Under Trump, INS (US Citizenship and Immigration Services) would ask us to detain undocumented and illegal immigrants so that they could determine their status in this country. We held them in our jails until they picked them up.

When Biden took office, and I mean the day he took office, INS told us to stop picking them up. NOTHING is done with them. No documentation, no detainment, no court date...NADA.

So yes, I think it's fair to say that Biden's ascendancy to the White House has in fact played a role in the proliferation of narcotics flowing across our border.
100,000 percent.
 
Anyone who says this border is secure is a liar, particularly the biggest liar in this thread. Almost 5 million illegals is a secure border? Like I said, LIAR.
I'm talking about during the Trump administration. Don't jump into a conversation if you don't know what's going on.
 
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The border is only as secure as the current administration handling itl Our border hasn't been secure in a couple of decades. My point is that Trump "tried to fix it". He got zero cooperation from the retards in the Dimtard camp. What Trump did do is keep the les miserables out until they could be properly processed, in spite of the libtard ACLU and Soros groups doing their best to encourage illegal crossings. Trump did make one good thing happen with fake WuKungFlu, he made the great fake unwashed wait on the Mexican side of the border with "wait in Mexico" due to Covid. So he used the Dimtard blade against them and bayonetted them with it. 😍 In May, "wait in Mexico" emergency order expires. Not sure if the SCOTUS will extend it. The current moron chief of DHS seems determined to let the invaders pillage the Alamo. Don't act like this is something new or pretend you are a moron, educate yourself. :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
So it wasn't secure during Trump? It's just a republican talking point? Can't be secure when it only benefits you.
 
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Imagine if dems cared as much about securing the border as they do securing their politics.
The dem game is always like this example.
Democrats murder 90 people
Republicans murder 10 people
Dem talking point is "Both parties murder people"
Numbers and scale mean nothing to democrats if they can say Republicans have some of the taint too, even if it is hugely different in terms of the numbers.
 
The dem game is always like this example.
Democrats murder 90 people
Republicans murder 10 people
Dem talking point is "Both parties murder people"
Numbers and scale mean nothing to democrats if they can say Republicans have some of the taint too, even if it is hugely different in terms of the numbers.
Both sides contribute to the problem, so let's don't address the problem. Let's just protect our politics.

We no longer share values with the left. It's time for a national divorce.
 
I ain't taking orders from you. You are a liar and I proved it and you ran away like a scardy cat. Stop accusing me of what I have said or not said or prove it. There is a record of it, bozo.
Well you just made yourself look like a fool. What did I lie about?
 
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So it wasn't secure during Trump? It's just a republican talking point? Can't be secure when it only benefits you.
It was DAMN SURE more secure during Trump than now. But even then, DHS was handcuffed by the woke crowd in Congress and the woke illegal advocates suing in federal court. The border has been a shit show for a decade but one man alone can't change it, no matter his title. Even if Hiden flip flopped and became a secure border advocate the best he could do is fire Mayorkas and hire a new DHS director.
 
The dem game is always like this example.
Democrats murder 90 people
Republicans murder 10 people
Dem talking point is "Both parties murder people"
Numbers and scale mean nothing to democrats if they can say Republicans have some of the taint too, even if it is hugely different in terms of the numbers.
Same thing happened with Sam Bankton-Fried gave FTX money to Dimtard candidates. The idiots here (one that disappeared a couple of month ago that won't be named) claimed he gave money to the GOP as well. Well, 2% to the GOP and 98% to the Dims. Same scenario, different topic. :mad:
 
It was DAMN SURE more secure during Trump than now. But even then, DHS was handcuffed by the woke crowd in Congress and the woke illegal advocates suing in federal court. The border has been a shit show for a decade but one man alone can't change it, no matter his title. Even if Hiden flip flopped and became a secure border advocate the best he could do is fire Mayorkas and hire a new DHS director.
So it was MORE secure? So saying the border WAS secure was/is a lie or talking point. Gotcha.
 
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Talking point (noun): something that lends support to an argument
also : a subject of discussion

I. E. :I have a list of talking points here that support my case.
This is the game he plays. As long as just ONE illegal alien was able to get into this country under Trump, he can say and will say that the border is not secure. He will use an absolute scale of zero or more than zero to define secure or not secure. He is just a waste of time to debate with because he is so disingenious, which he undoubtedly doesn't know the meaning of.
 
This is the game he plays. As long as just ONE illegal alien was able to get into this country under Trump, he can say and will say that the border is not secure. He will use an absolute scale of zero or more than zero to define secure or not secure. He is just a waste of time to debate with because he is so disingenious, which he undoubtedly doesn't know the meaning of.
I don't know where @BayouGator1995 is but I wish he would come back.
 
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Talking point (noun): something that lends support to an argument
also : a subject of discussion

I. E. :I have a list of talking points here that support my case.
That's why I said lie or talking point. He is either blatantly lying or he is just trying to get a discussion going by saying something that the Republican party told him to say. Either way it's not accurate.
 
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Good luck with that. People want to get drunk. People want to get high. People want to gamble. Short of exterminating the human race that will never change.
Yeah I'm well aware that is highly unlikely. I'm also aware that it's highly unlikely to do anything about fentanyl. Remember the war on DRUGS? it stopped nothing.
 
Yeah I'm well aware that is highly unlikely. I'm also aware that it's highly unlikely to do anything about fentanyl. Remember the war on DRUGS? it stopped nothing.

You can certainly retard the flow of drugs. We have done that and we'll continue. It's the only option that is even partly viable.

If you don't slow the flow down, you'll have even more addicts to "fix"...almost none of whom you can actually fix.
 
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