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If you'd pop down from that ivory tower you stay in you'd see that not everyone lives like you do. It's not fear it's reality. You might not ever need a gun where you live, I've had to draw mine three times this year and that's not a record.
Exactly. Has nothing to do with "living in fear". If someone chooses to break into my home I am prepared to defend my family. No fear, just being prepared.
 
You mean like FEMA?

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Like our DOD putting that super duper dock over in the Middle East (that collapsed and sank) so we could offload “humanitarian aid” the terrorists would grab and sell to those poor starving Palestinians they’re fighting for. 🤬
 
Do you not pay attention. NGOs have been helping illegals to get to America and helping to get them registered for years. VA is not the only state wherein the DOJ is trying to stop illegals from being removed from voter rolls. Additionally, states are registering them also. MD’s DMV automatically registered my father in law when we got him a state ID card and he is only a green card holder. They registered my 16 yo son, even though he told the clerk he wasn’t old enough to vote. The clerk told him, look, I am required to register everyone.
I am sure I don't pay much attention to the Maga media you follow as I am more interested in the truth. Illegals don't vote in high numbers and it makes sense why they don't.

What really happened here, IMO, has little to do with a few people voting in Virginia. It was actually a smart move by the Republicans to get the Supreme court to issue this decision a week before the election. Almost could have come right out of a Trump stump speech. Also gives them additional fodder about cheating if Trump losses ......as its going to be kaos if that happens and every talking point will help convince the natives.
 
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Could you expand on those circumstances a bit?

I am not against personal gun ownership (other than automatic weapons), but I guess I am more like Theo in personal experience. In my roughly 40 years of adulthood I have never owned a gun or ever been in a situation where I really thought I needed one. And I haven't lived a sheltered life....have lived in Florida, 10 years in Los Angeles and now Tennessee and traveled quite a lot. Been to hundreds of sporting events, hundreds of bars, many times to Vegas, Reno, Tahoe, NYC, New Orleans, etc and have done my share of drinking and carousing. However, I do try to avoid trouble. But I am curios as to the circumstance that would require somebody to have the need to draw a weapon so often. Is it in the line of duty?
Generally it's for work. This year I've held an attempted car thief at gunpoint til JSO showed up and ran some drunk/ aggressive illegals off that were bothering my my neighbor while her husband was out of town and thought because I was out numbered I was outgunned. At home, off duty.

We have a dog where I work in Northside so unless it's raining I generally don't need need to draw my sidearm, plus there's a shotgun very obviously mounted in the truck.
 
You must really hate wearing a seatbelt. Sitting on it must be pretty uncomfortable.
It’s a 2mm piece of fabric. Can’t feel it, I’d guess.

That said I wear a seatbelt 100% of the time.

I’d counter that you must really hate guns to forego a risk 10X greater.
 
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@Illegal-shift Id like to provide some perspective on why people may be experiencing the need to own guns. I’m an assistant principal at a HS here in Florida. Going on 16 years now in education, spent my whole life in Florida, and my community so I’ve able to see how it’s developed and evolved in that time period.

The decision making of kids currently is the worst ifs ever been. Between video games, virtual reality, social media and lack of parenting, kids don’t have an understanding of finality. They don’t understand if they say something regarding doing a heinous act at a school ends in deaths. Going on year 16, the incidents of defiance, and physical altercations have increased exponentially. Simple requests turn into kids being detained by our SROs. Kids just don’t understand how to handle controversy and authority.

Florida now has mental health counselors on campus at most, if not all schools. Whether we want to believe the cases are increasing or if it’s the new buzz word, kids psyche is worse now than ever before. Emotions are absent for so many, which is a scary thought. I work with students with severe issues, ones where baker acts come into play. Dependency on vapes, sugar (yes lol), and cell phones is insane….I have to stand in a foyeur of a bathroom to ensure kids aren’t vaping. When they don’t get that hit before class, it’s like these students turn into the boogeyman.

So I say all this because what the students do, how they act, and respond to authority on campus permeates outside campus. Same as how they act outside school is consistent with how they act in school. This isn’t something unique to just students. It’s everyone. But my space is HS. So, if kids don’t understand consequences, the totality or finality of making a bad decision, how does that translate into the outside world? Well it could mean crimes ranging from petty to grand theft increase due to the lack of good decision making. It could mean a higher incidence rate of people with mental health problems try and enter someone’s property (We had this happen at my last house), it could mean people then to robbery bc they don’t have enough money.

It’s a crisis, and the lack of parenting, decision making amongst young adults, is very concerning. So, I ask myself “how would I respond if someone tried to break into my home?” Well, having protection in the form of a gun is my best defense for any intruder.

I hope my rambling provided some perspective for ya.
 
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@Illegal-shift Id like to provide some perspective on why people may be experiencing the need to own guns. I’m an assistant principal at a HS here in Florida. Going on 16 years now in education, spent my whole life in Florida, and my community so I’ve able to see how it’s developed and evolved in that time period.

The decision making of kids currently is the worst ifs ever been. Between video games, virtual reality, social media and lack of parenting, kids don’t have an understanding of finality. They don’t understand if they say something regarding doing a heinous act at a school ends in deaths. Going on year 16, the incidents of defiance, and physical altercations have increased exponentially. Simple requests turn into kids being detained by our SROs. Kids just don’t understand how to handle controversy and authority.

Florida now has mental health counselors on campus at most, if not all schools. Whether we want to believe the cases are increasing or if it’s the new buzz word, kids psyche is worse now than ever before. Emotions are absent for so many, which is a scary thought. I work with students with severe issues, ones where baker acts come into play. Dependency on vapes, sugar (yes lol), and cell phones is insane….I have to stand in a foyeur of a bathroom to ensure kids aren’t vaping. When they don’t get that hit before class, it’s like these students turn into the boogeyman.

So I say all this because what the students do, how they act, and respond to authority on campus permeates outside campus. Same as how they act outside school is consistent with how they act in school. This isn’t something unique to just students. It’s everyone. But my space is HS. So, if kids don’t understand consequences, the totality or finality of making a bad decision, how does that translate into the outside world? Well it could mean crimes ranging from petty to grand theft increase due to the lack of good decision making. It could mean a higher incidence rate of people with mental health problems try and enter someone’s property (We had this happen at my last house), it could mean people then to robbery bc they don’t have enough money.

It’s a crisis, and the lack of parenting, decision making amongst young adults, is very concerning. So, I ask myself “how would I respond if someone tried to break into my home?” Well, having protection in the form of a gun is my best defense for any intruder.

I hope my rambling provided some perspective for ya.
I’m sure it did, but like most highly polarized people it will fall upon death ears in his case.
 
It’s a 2mm piece of fabric. Can’t feel it, I’d guess.

That said I wear a seatbelt 100% of the time.

I’d counter that you must really hate guns to forego a risk 10X greater.
I don't know how to say this any differently. If you're frightened someone is going to attack you, get yourself a firearm. I'm OK with that. I have no interest in forcing you to live in fear.
 
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Generally it's for work. This year I've held an attempted car thief at gunpoint til JSO showed up and ran some drunk/ aggressive illegals off that were bothering my my neighbor while her husband was out of town and thought because I was out numbered I was outgunned. At home, off duty.

We have a dog where I work in Northside so unless it's raining I generally don't need need to draw my sidearm, plus there's a shotgun very obviously mounted in the truck.
What ever happened to gun racks in the back of pickups? I used to see them all the time.
 
I don't know how to say this any differently. If you're frightened someone is going to attack you, get yourself a firearm. I'm OK with that. I have no interest in forcing you to live in fear.
You are so low IQ I do not even know why I respond to you..because you prove here every day you do not have the capacity to understand things. NO ONE is frightened someone is going to attack us...we just want to be able to SUCCESSFULLY protect our loved ones IF it happens. I wonder how many people are attacked that are unprepared? I AM PREPARED, and KNOW that under most circumstances, I will have the advantage. There is only ONE rule when something happens where you are forced to protect someone. WIN.
 
You are so low IQ I do not even know why I respond to you..because you prove here every day you do not have the capacity to understand things. NO ONE is frightened someone is going to attack us...we just want to be able to SUCCESSFULLY protect our loved ones IF it happens. I wonder how many people are attacked that are unprepared? I AM PREPARED, and KNOW that under most circumstances, I will have the advantage. There is only ONE rule when something happens where you are forced to protect someone. WIN.
Well you stay safe and try not to shoot yourself in the foot.
 
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I don't know how to say this any differently. If you're frightened someone is going to attack you, get yourself a firearm. I'm OK with that. I have no interest in forcing you to live in fear.
So you don’t live in fear of a car accident?

You admit you wear a seatbelt every time you drive, right?
 
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It's the law around here. They can give you a ticket for not wearing it.

A better analogy for what you're attempting to say would be wearing a crash helmet when you drive.
So it’s ok for you to wear a seatbelt to avoid death in a crash or - god forbid a scary ticket -, but I can’t own a gun in case my home gets invaded?

Keeping in mind you’re 10x more likely to have your home invaded while your home than to die in a car accident.
 
So it’s ok for you to wear a seatbelt to avoid death in a crash or - god forbid a scary ticket -, but I can’t own a gun in case my home gets invaded?

Keeping in mind you’re 10x more likely to have your home invaded while your home than to die in a car accident.
If you're frightened that your home is going to be invaded, by all means, get yourself a gun. I'm fine with that. I don't want you to live in fear.

There's 10X more home invasions than car accidents? You sure about that?
 
@Illegal-shift Id like to provide some perspective on why people may be experiencing the need to own guns. I’m an assistant principal at a HS here in Florida. Going on 16 years now in education, spent my whole life in Florida, and my community so I’ve able to see how it’s developed and evolved in that time period.

The decision making of kids currently is the worst ifs ever been. Between video games, virtual reality, social media and lack of parenting, kids don’t have an understanding of finality. They don’t understand if they say something regarding doing a heinous act at a school ends in deaths. Going on year 16, the incidents of defiance, and physical altercations have increased exponentially. Simple requests turn into kids being detained by our SROs. Kids just don’t understand how to handle controversy and authority.

Florida now has mental health counselors on campus at most, if not all schools. Whether we want to believe the cases are increasing or if it’s the new buzz word, kids psyche is worse now than ever before. Emotions are absent for so many, which is a scary thought. I work with students with severe issues, ones where baker acts come into play. Dependency on vapes, sugar (yes lol), and cell phones is insane….I have to stand in a foyeur of a bathroom to ensure kids aren’t vaping. When they don’t get that hit before class, it’s like these students turn into the boogeyman.

So I say all this because what the students do, how they act, and respond to authority on campus permeates outside campus. Same as how they act outside school is consistent with how they act in school. This isn’t something unique to just students. It’s everyone. But my space is HS. So, if kids don’t understand consequences, the totality or finality of making a bad decision, how does that translate into the outside world? Well it could mean crimes ranging from petty to grand theft increase due to the lack of good decision making. It could mean a higher incidence rate of people with mental health problems try and enter someone’s property (We had this happen at my last house), it could mean people then to robbery bc they don’t have enough money.

It’s a crisis, and the lack of parenting, decision making amongst young adults, is very concerning. So, I ask myself “how would I respond if someone tried to break into my home?” Well, having protection in the form of a gun is my best defense for any intruder.

I hope my rambling provided some perspective for ya.
Thanks Buje...... appreciate your input. Hearing different perspectives is helpful
 
Generally it's for work. This year I've held an attempted car thief at gunpoint til JSO showed up and ran some drunk/ aggressive illegals off that were bothering my my neighbor while her husband was out of town and thought because I was out numbered I was outgunned. At home, off duty.

We have a dog where I work in Northside so unless it's raining I generally don't need need to draw my sidearm, plus there's a shotgun very obviously mounted in the truck.
Thanks. And glad you mentioned a dog ....I would think a dog would be more effective at stopping a home invasion and less likely to get yourself shot at than a gun. But that's just my gut reaction as I own neither at the moment.
 
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So you don’t live in fear of a car accident?

You admit you wear a seatbelt every time you drive, right?
Full disclosure. I've never worn a seatbelt, I hate those things. It's one reason I refuse to buy a new truck (other than ridiculous prices), I can live with the red flashing dash light but not that damn buzzer. :mad: When I borrow my wife's truck I click the bastard behind me. 😂
 
If you're frightened that your home is going to be invaded, by all means, get yourself a gun. I'm fine with that. I don't want you to live in fear.

There's 10X more home invasions than car accidents? You sure about that?
Vehicle fatalities.

About 40K of those per year.

About 1MM home invasions, half the time someone is home.

I just find it odd you’re perfectly fine using a seatbelt as preventative protection but if I own guns to help prevent an intruder from harming my family I’m a “gun nut”?

Your hang up with guns is really weird.
 
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Vehicle fatalities.

About 40K of those per year.

About 1MM home invasions, half the time someone is home.

I just find it odd you’re perfectly fine using a seatbelt as preventative protection but if I own guns to help prevent an intruder from harming my family I’m a “gun nut”?

Your hang up with guns is really weird.
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