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Heck a top 50 would get me real excited but don't see it happening. Low 70s might put a very slight smile on my face.
Defense will be good but not 2015 good imo. That is why I think a 10 win regular season is a pipe dream despite the relatively favorable schedule.
Saban or Meyer aren't winning 10 games this regular season with the players you have. 7 wins would be decent, anything above that is icing.
lol People will be going nuts over 7 wins. I think 8-4 is likely but 7-5 is probably more likely than 9-3. Heck we should be a 10 win team with how you have talked about things.
Yap, yap, yap,,,, blah, blah, blah,,,, snivel & whine.... 
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The iG's 'dark horse' Fr is galloping away so far....
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The iG's 'dark horse' Fr is galloping away so far....
- 42. Jaylin Jackson Fr, the P-WO from Tampa, looked really quick running his routes, and showed good hands. He’s on the small side, but that doesn’t seem to deter or limit him. (5-8 160 recruit, now listed at a Savage 5-8 171)
- Jaylin Jackson almost broke a screen pass for a touchdown.
Yap, yap, yap,,,, blah, blah, blah,,,, snivel & whine....
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The iG's 'dark horse' Fr is galloping away so far....
(09. WR Dre Massey 5-9 189 4.35/40 rsSr - JuCo *****)
- 42. Jaylin Jackson Fr, the P-WO from Tampa, looked really quick running his routes, and showed good hands. He’s on the small side, but that doesn’t seem to deter or limit him. (5-8 160 recruit, now listed at a Savage 5-8 171)
- Jaylin Jackson almost broke a screen pass for a touchdown.
So you think he is the next Dre Massey?
You love to compare Mullen to Kirby. Kirby won 7 games his first regular season with much better talent.
Mullen is a better coach than Kirby, so he can probably match that with less talent.
Nice spin job but 7 wins will be a big disappointment for the Gators this season.
And yet you also claim that people will somehow love that.
You're so outside of reality it's silly.
I think that he could eventually be better than what Dre was projected/expected to be when he arrived here from JuCo. For whatever reasons, Dre has yet to fulfill his potential.
They are of similar size and physical talents. I would not be surprised if Jaylin was also used as a backup at CB. The kid has talent and swag to spare...
How am I outside of reality when most Gator fans are predicting 9 or 10 regular season wins from what I can see. 9 is possible if we do good with turnovers. I doubt 10 wins pre-bowl is even a possibility.
Just saw in another thread here where he claimed "hell would freeze over before Florida won 9 regular season games this year".
Now notice here he says this....
All over the map.
Well there's our problem. We only took 11 snaps during practice. I think more reps would be helpful.
Well my bad if I said that instead of 10 but 9 regular season wins would be a really low possibility I think without turnovers really falling our way.
We are?
Interesting.
I certainly think 9 is a possibility, and 10 would be unquestionably above the expectation, but the right things happen and yeah, we could have that kind of record.
Granted, you went from "hell would freeze over" before we got 9 wins to "9 wins is possible" so why listen to anything you say?
I haven’t seen anybody predicting 9 to 10 wins anywhere. Especially on this board.
I almost don't care about win totals this year - I care much more about the way things look. 7 - 8 -9 wins, whatever - do we look like we know what the hell we are doing? That's the emphasis to me.
If they can’t have at least an average intermediate passing game as teams stack the box, it’s probably 6-7 wins at best.
2 posters have put the 10 win number out there a couple of times but I admit this place is light on putting a predicted win number out there compared to some other places who have a bunch of 10-2 and 9-3 predictions due to the relatively favorable schedule. We also have a few here thinking we will be undefeated until the LSU game which points to 9-3 at least unless there is a collapse again.
You were one of them. Obvious Lee said 10 wins at least, 11 and he would admit Mullen had done better than he thought.
Reminder, no coach in the history of the SEC has won more than 10 regular season games in his first year at an SEC school.
Realists.
Nice spin job there when a new head coach went 11-1 in their first regular season after the team wasn't even ranked prior to the season starting. Let me guess because he was an assistant previously at that school " first year at an SEC school" was placed in your statement. Mac and at least one other new SEC coach besides Malzahn won 10 games in the regular season their first year and Mac was trash as a head coach but of course you said "more than 10 regular season games" to cover that.
OMG a handful of posters (out of hundreds) are overly optimistic - can't have that!!! The overall point is that most people here are being realistic on their expectations however you feel the need to argue that the small group of overly optimistic folks represent everyone in Gatornation.
I don't even care per se it's just weird lol.
Always set your goals and expectations high,,, for any chance to actually get there.
I think I can, I think I can, I think I can....
I think I can, I think I can, I think I can....
Nope I argued we are straight crap in recruiting for being UF right now and am just making my point I think we won't be better than 8-4 unless turnovers really fall our way to get us to 9-3 because of the offense. I may have mistakenly said a wrong win loss number with that in a post also.
Its not weird its just stating what someone sees themselves. If anyone wants to place a bet on our final recruiting ranking or our final record I am ready to take that bet.
Also I wont be blaming Mullen for any record problems this year due to our QB situation.
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The fevered response:
I think they can't, I think they can't, I think they can't....
I think they can't, I think they can't, I think they can't....
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The fevered response:
I they they can't, I think they can't, I think they can't....
Its all opinions until reality hits us in the face. Maybe Mullen can pull a Malzahn and have us going 11-1 and then winning the SEC and going to the championship. Mullen was the OC for our championships just like Malzahn was for their championship. Malzahn did it with a QB that was recruited as a cornerback and Auburn had a 3-9 record the previous season.
4 offense v 3 defense drills. Trying to imagine them doing that with Tebow or even Fitzgerald. They would literally just walk into the endzone. I guess if you had some large DTs in there - there could possibly be a slim chance to tackle them rarely.
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The biggest reason why Gus did so well in 2013 was he exploited the rules to limit subs by the defense. He ran a fast-paced offense, but he also ran the players up to the LOS every play, then called the play in from the sidelines. This forced the defense to stay on the field and they couldn't sub. Often the defense, especially on the DL, uses situational groups, they might put in a couple of 300 pounders at DT on 3rd and 1, then sub them out if the offense gets a first down. But aubarn would get a first down then immediately run up to the line so the winded DL couldn't get out of the game. It forced the defense to either burn a timeout, or get burned for a big gain.
Or start faking injuries like Bieliema did at Arkansas LOL Gus also was a big fan of the 'pop' pass. He was also a big fan of using it illegally, so was Ole Miss at this time (he and Hugh are big buds). He beat Alabama with it in 2013, he rolled Nick Marshall out, all the OL went downfield to block, then the DB covering the WR comes up to tackle Marshall, and he throws the ball to the wide open WR. The DB played the ball correctly, since the OL was downfield, it was a running play. But Gus knew that the refs likely wouldn't be able to watch all the OL and measure how far they were downfield.
Rule changes have addressed both his use of pop passes and trying to keep the other team from subbing. Take away his high school gimmicks and Gus is another Less Miles at best.
That Auburn team was 3-4 plays away from having another 3 losses in the regular season alone. They were a solid 8-9 win ball club that ended up in the championship game due to some very fortunate plays. They came back down to earth the next year with even more talent.
Wasn't the rule change on defense put in for the 2014 season allowing substitutions for 10 seconds after the play clock started. That may be the biggest reason if it was that year.
I still can't believe they fell apart against FSU like that after getting that big lead.
Something like that. Malzahn was also a year or something like that removed from that team so a lot of the kids he had recruited. It’s been all downhill since 2013 for him.
The biggest change was the ref standing over the ball to let the defense have the chance to sub. I believe they also added another ref to specifically watch for ineligible receivers/linemen downfield.
Those two moves along killed Gus, or Harry Potter as I call him.
He'll have decent teams every few years when he had a stud OL and good RBs, but the rest of the time he will be 3rd or 4th in the West.
Some practice observations from Goldkamp:
CJ McWilliams is on crutches. Malik Davis in the Pit today. Boot on the left foot for McWilliams.
Shawn Davis not out here. Was told he got hurt in the scrimmage.
No Josh Hammond on punt return today. He didn’t look very comfortable fielding them.
Nick Smith also in the Pit.
Tackle drills. Scarlett beats Moon, Hammond beats Wilson. Wells shakes Edwards. Taylor missed Perine.
Pierce beats Clayton. Van shakes Edwards. Hammond beats Wilson again. Pierce drives through Clement. Trask runs over a walk-on. Massey beats Henderson.
Massey beats Edwards. Trask trucks Moon - Good lord. Perine beats Stewart.
English yelling at the safeties for being soft on a jamming drill. “DON’T LET HIS ASS GET UP THE FIELD! STOP BEING SOFT!”
Jeawon Taylor getting ripped by English. “I just f*^*>% said that, pay attention!”
CJ McWilliams is on crutches. Malik Davis in the Pit today. Boot on the left foot for McWilliams.
Shawn Davis not out here. Was told he got hurt in the scrimmage.
No Josh Hammond on punt return today. He didn’t look very comfortable fielding them.
Nick Smith also in the Pit.
Tackle drills. Scarlett beats Moon, Hammond beats Wilson. Wells shakes Edwards. Taylor missed Perine.
Pierce beats Clayton. Van shakes Edwards. Hammond beats Wilson again. Pierce drives through Clement. Trask runs over a walk-on. Massey beats Henderson.
Massey beats Edwards. Trask trucks Moon - Good lord. Perine beats Stewart.
English yelling at the safeties for being soft on a jamming drill. “DON’T LET HIS ASS GET UP THE FIELD! STOP BEING SOFT!”
Jeawon Taylor getting ripped by English. “I just f*^*>% said that, pay attention!”
Saw this posted elsewhere.
@nwblackmon: Couple of #Gators notes from camp for folks from my sources:
1. Yes, Franks was ahead prior to scrimmage this week. Coaches felt he regressed in scrimmage- several poor decisions despite repeated emphasis on making simple plays;
@nwblackmon: 2. Special teams the unit that's made the "most progress" in camp. Guys having fun competing in that group- told it's "night and day" from a year ago when it simply wasn't emphasized. Of the specialists, Punter ahead of kicker.
@nwblackmon: 3. Lost in the Jefferson and Grimes eligibility excitement is Kadarius Toney. Coaches really excited to have a guy who was first Gator flex since Harvin to average over 9 yards a touch back- and as a secondary option no less. Toney's body much better-equipped for football too.
@nwblackmon: 4. Defensive line better than advertised early and coaches feel more about that talent than OL. Linebackers the pleasant surprise of camp on defense as reported elsewhere. Most significant concern has shifted to safety, where Florida is quite thin.
@nwblackmon: 5. Wouldn't expect a QB starter to be named now but also hard to know whether pecking order would change even if Trask was completely healthy. Maybe Mullen will clarify at press conference today but I wouldn't bank on it.
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Sounds like Franks is still prone to Driskeling if they are saying he regressed in the scrimmage. Problem is with this offense if Mullen runs him much that Driskeling factor will come right to the forefront. Heck Franks fumbled a couple of times last year without the defender even touching the actual football when he took off running.
Hearing a few places that Slaton and Conliffe are really kicking butt. Don't seem to hear as much about Clayton as those two. I was hoping with the added weight he would really move forward.
@nwblackmon: Couple of #Gators notes from camp for folks from my sources:
1. Yes, Franks was ahead prior to scrimmage this week. Coaches felt he regressed in scrimmage- several poor decisions despite repeated emphasis on making simple plays;
@nwblackmon: 2. Special teams the unit that's made the "most progress" in camp. Guys having fun competing in that group- told it's "night and day" from a year ago when it simply wasn't emphasized. Of the specialists, Punter ahead of kicker.
@nwblackmon: 3. Lost in the Jefferson and Grimes eligibility excitement is Kadarius Toney. Coaches really excited to have a guy who was first Gator flex since Harvin to average over 9 yards a touch back- and as a secondary option no less. Toney's body much better-equipped for football too.
@nwblackmon: 4. Defensive line better than advertised early and coaches feel more about that talent than OL. Linebackers the pleasant surprise of camp on defense as reported elsewhere. Most significant concern has shifted to safety, where Florida is quite thin.
@nwblackmon: 5. Wouldn't expect a QB starter to be named now but also hard to know whether pecking order would change even if Trask was completely healthy. Maybe Mullen will clarify at press conference today but I wouldn't bank on it.
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Sounds like Franks is still prone to Driskeling if they are saying he regressed in the scrimmage. Problem is with this offense if Mullen runs him much that Driskeling factor will come right to the forefront. Heck Franks fumbled a couple of times last year without the defender even touching the actual football when he took off running.
Hearing a few places that Slaton and Conliffe are really kicking butt. Don't seem to hear as much about Clayton as those two. I was hoping with the added weight he would really move forward.
Man, you want our offense to suck SO bad, and sadgator wants it to be SO good to shove it up your ass!
Can’t wait for the season to start and see who is right! This is the best time of year!!!!!!!!!
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