Not a snake handler, that is a little bit too charismatic for me. I don't have the authority to judge anyone, Ma'am (that's God's Job). I have a degree in divinity from a respected university. But, we still hold people accountable just as you would yourself. That's what ministers are supposed to do. Every sermon isn't warm and fuzzy if you're preaching from the Holy Bible. God bless. One more item: Take another lap.
Cops at the scene:
Consider this. At the Pulse shooting, after the off duty officer hauled balls, they waited, I want to say 6 hours while the shooter killed 51 people at his leisure, until they finally used their entry vehicle to bust thru the wall. It should be noted, the entry vehicle arrived shortly after the SWAT command and control mobile hq, and was on scene almost the whole damn time.
Crazy stuff about not using the vehicle earlier at the Pulse shooting but I do agree with people that say the rules/policy have to be different for most places and with schools with underage children. Officer safety has to take a clear backseat to saving the kids in that situation. I thought most agencies would have known this since the S FL shooting.
You are one very interesting cat!
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Either he was a 25 yr old doctor...or has a SERIOUS case of immaturity.
I would put a slow roll on this. There is no timeline of when this is. Kid could have been dead for 30 minutes alreay. Unless someone HAS heard. At lunch today, they did not know. Do not be so fast to blame the police. If they F'd up...it will come out without jumping to conclusions
They are trained to do this now. Rule book? I do not know. Wish Bama was here to expound
My take is their protocol treated this like a hostage situation. Bullshit on that. When the shots start firing within, the siege is off, invade and dispatch. There is no negotiating at that point. There's no collateral left to barter over.
You don't barter with terrorists.
Cops sometimes are put in "damned if you do, damned if you dont" situations. Disobeying orders can get you fired, or worse put in jail even when acting with the best intentions and following training procedures. Look at how many cops have to go to trial when use of force is the only alternative. That's why so many are quitting.
There are people that want to do the job of a cop until they are placed in a situation where they must kill or be killed. All of the mock training won't mean squat if you are really afraid to be tried by 12. When the $*** hits the fan you take that scumbag out with any means necessary. No way a guy like the punk in Buffalo should be alive right now.
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There was a SWAT team in full happy gear on scene in like ten mikes. Iv'e never met an a dynamic entry team that didn't have a hand held ram as part of their kit, and I've never seen a classroom door that woouldn't go down like a cheap hooker after two hits.
I have two breaching rounds on the sidesaddle of my Mossberg. They will abslutely slay a lock from ten inches.
There is no way I could be a Cop these days. I would have done time for choking out someone or using Bear mace on rioters. That being said, that situation could have ended in seconds. Just climb over the classroom and position a sniper opposite of the door proceed to knock the door open and the rear shooter would easily have a clear shot at the maniac.
Right..both dropped the ball. No way you wait that long when this isn't a hostage situation, it's a slaughterhouse.
Feds entered Uvalde school to kill gunman despite local police initially asking them to wait
Federal agents who went to Robb Elementary in Uvalde, Tex., on Tuesday to confront a gunman were told by local police to wait, but chose to enter the school.www.yahoo.com
The BORTAC team, armed with tactical gear, at first did not move toward the gunman. After approximately 30 minutes passed, however, the federal agents opted of their own volition to lead the “stack” of officers inside the school and take down the shooter.
Steven McCraw, the director of the Texas Department of Public Safety, said Friday that Peter Arredondo, the chief of police for the Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District, had stopped at least 19 officers from breaking into the school as the gunman opened fire for at least an hour.
Arredondo believed that the shooter had barricaded himself and that the children were not under an active threat, said McCraw at a news conference.
“From the benefit of hindsight where I’m sitting now, of course, it was not the right decision. It was a wrong decision. Period. There was no excuse for that,” McCraw said. “There were plenty of officers to do what needed to be done, with one exception, is that the incident commander inside believed he needed more equipment and more officers to do a tactical breach at that time.”
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Hindsight my a** this joke of a police chief needs to be removed from his position asap. They could hear the gunshots so they knew kids were being shot. The guy is just lying now about his reasoning. Also it appears the feds weren't as proactive as we thought if they sat there for 30 minutes themselves before acting.
