We need to get either him or Hill at DB. I don't have a ton of confidence we do though but Napier being his former coach may overcome the other factors.
Gators to Hire Ron Roberts as LB Coach, Co-Defensive Coordinator ?
- Thread starter Jeff from Jax
- Start date
We need to get either him or Hill at DB. I don't have a ton of confidence we do though but Napier being his former coach may overcome the other factors.
Gators land a commitment from Michigan transfer RJ Moten
Gators land an experienced defensive back out of the transfer portal
247sports.com
Fever,
O’Cyrus Torrence came to UF for 1 year & it worked out for him - even though we were a mediocre team.
An OG being drafted in the 2nd round is rare.
Ocala posted that we got a TP commit from Michigan Grad Student - safety R J Moten.
EDIT
My bad - Moten, a Legacy & Listed as a rising senior by Michigan and a member of the 2020 recruiting class, the latter fact qualifying him for a COVID-19 eligibility extension, Moten has two seasons of collegiate eligibility remaining to utilize at Florida.
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...ansfer-commitment-michigan-legacy-db-rj-moten
Don't know if that will affect CBN's desire for Trev Amos or not - article I read claimed that Amos had the ability to play either CB, Nickle, or Safety.
I trust CBN to know & decide if we still want to use one of the 4 open Scholarships we have left.
Hoping CBN will also look at 4* OT Caleb Johnson & 4* WR Malachi Wideman - Florida kids who recently entered the portal.
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Two Florida coaches to visit trio of in-state blue-chip prospects on Tuesday
Area recruiter Sean Spencer and wide receivers coach Billy Gonzaleswill visit with a trio of Tampa Catholic HS players Tuesday.
4* WR TJ Moore
4* athlete Jameer Grimsley
4* IOL Eddy Pierre-Louis (6-4,335) - the younger brother of former Florida offensive lineman Richard Gouraige
https://gatorswire.usatoday.com/202...eer-grimsley-eddy-pierre-louis-coaches-visit/
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4* Alabama EDGE sets official visit date with Gators
One of the most recent recruits to set their official visit dates in Gainesville is 247Sports five-star edge Jordan Ross out of Birmingham (Alabama) Vestavia Hills in the 2024 class. The 6-foot-5-inch, 215-pound defender Swamp247’s Blake Alderman that he plans on being on campus the first weekend in June, joining a laundry list of other high schoolers also making their OVs.
https://gatorswire.usatoday.com/202...l-recruiting-jordan-ross-official-visit-date/
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Gators offer OL Jack Hines 6-7, 280
https://hailfloridahail.com/2023/05/02/florida-football-recruiting-jack-hines-hidden-monster/
https://hailfloridahail.com/2023/05/02/florida-football-recruiting-jack-hines-hidden-monster/
Fever,
We have 4 scholarships still available so I feel that there is still a chance that Trev Amos may elect to sign with CBN - perhaps as a CB.
Now that Moten has committed to Florida, he will compete with Kamari Wilson and Miguel Mitchell for a starting spot as the Gators lost both safeties to the NFL this past season.
Is Moten more experienced than the young players we currently have at safety ?
Is Moten better than Trey Dean III ?
During UF’s pro day, Dean explained that he’d been dealing with labral hip tears that would require surgery.
Will having to compete with Moten for playing time make our young safeties better ?
Will Moten provide needed depth even if he doesn't start ?
Will the coaching he gets at UF over the next 2 years help Moten to improve ?
I'm not Corey Raymond our DB coach so I can't answer any of my own questions - perhaps you can Fever.
I do believe that both CBN & Raymond saw something they liked in Moten.
I feel like CBN signed him for a reason & we will have to let the future be what it is.
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Moten tackles about like Dean and them and isnt that good in coverage. I highly doubt he starts short of an injury.
Gators coaches visit handful of prospects at IMG Academy on Tuesday
On Tuesday, offensive coordinator Rob Sale and defensive coordinator Austin Armstrong hit the road to pay a visit to IMG in their Bradenton, Florida, complex.Article talks about recruits they hoped to meet.
Hope that a forthcoming article will provide details on who they met and what the outcome was.
https://gatorswire.usatoday.com/lis...emy-coaches-visit-jerrick-gibson-david-stone/
Moten is better than Dean and I think he’s got a good chance to start because he has much more experience than our other safeties.
We will see I guess if we dont get one of those 2 other guys but he seems to have his limitations.
Moten is a safety and Amos is a CB. They play different positions so I don’t think one has any effect on the other. We really don’t need a CB that bad IMO. Safety was certainly a need.
Mike Farrell's Top 2024 Quarterback Commits
https://mikefarrellsports.com/recruiting/mike-farrells-top-2024-quarterback-commits
Stetson Bennett 4th Round NFL Draft Pick
Other than beating us 2 years in a row - while leading the Dawgs to 2 consecutive National Championships, Stetson Bennett has nothing to do with Gator football - unfortunately.
I just like the guy, how he carried himself, & how every time someone put an obstacle in his path, he overcame it.
Latest obstacle - he's not good enough to be drafted by the NFL - too small, not enough arm strength, etc.
As several posters on this board opinioned, Bennet not good enough, won't be drafted, even if he gets an UDFA contract, lucky to last 2 years, etc.
IMO, five years from now, it will be interesting to compare AR's career with Stetson Bennett's.
The Los Angeles Rams selected Stetson Bennett in the fourth round of the 2023 NFL Draft with the No. 128 overall pick, making him the seventh quarterback taken in that draft.
Projected contract: 4 years, $4.54 million, $699,140 signing bonus
https://ugawire.usatoday.com/lists/...fl-rookies-2023-draft/?itm_source=parsely-api
McVay is a big fan of Georgia’s offensive system and thinks it translates well to the NFL. He also is impressed with Bennett’s athleticism, particularly Bennett’s quickness.
Stetson Bennett’s final college game was a dominant 65-7 national championship victory over TCU. Perhaps he impressed a few folks in SoFi Stadium, which is home to the Los Angeles Rams, with his five total touchdown performance in the national championship game.
Bennett will be Matthew Stafford's backup.
HC Sean McVay on adding Stetson Bennett + opportunity to learn under Matthew Stafford.
Looks like it will be 1 Old Dawg teaching another Young Dawg some new tricks.
https://ugawire.usatoday.com/2023/0...rback-stetson-bennett/?itm_source=parsely-api
Other than beating us 2 years in a row - while leading the Dawgs to 2 consecutive National Championships, Stetson Bennett has nothing to do with Gator football - unfortunately.
I just like the guy, how he carried himself, & how every time someone put an obstacle in his path, he overcame it.
Latest obstacle - he's not good enough to be drafted by the NFL - too small, not enough arm strength, etc.
As several posters on this board opinioned, Bennet not good enough, won't be drafted, even if he gets an UDFA contract, lucky to last 2 years, etc.
IMO, five years from now, it will be interesting to compare AR's career with Stetson Bennett's.
The Los Angeles Rams selected Stetson Bennett in the fourth round of the 2023 NFL Draft with the No. 128 overall pick, making him the seventh quarterback taken in that draft.
Projected contract: 4 years, $4.54 million, $699,140 signing bonus
https://ugawire.usatoday.com/lists/...fl-rookies-2023-draft/?itm_source=parsely-api
HC, Sean McVay, details why Rams selected Georgia QB Stetson Bennett
Here’s everything Sean McVay had to say about Stetson Bennett:Sean McVay views Stetson Bennett as a winner. Bennett came up huge in clutch moments throughout his college career. Bennett saved his best performances for the College Football Playoff.
McVay is a big fan of Georgia’s offensive system and thinks it translates well to the NFL. He also is impressed with Bennett’s athleticism, particularly Bennett’s quickness.
Stetson Bennett’s final college game was a dominant 65-7 national championship victory over TCU. Perhaps he impressed a few folks in SoFi Stadium, which is home to the Los Angeles Rams, with his five total touchdown performance in the national championship game.
Bennett will be Matthew Stafford's backup.
HC Sean McVay on adding Stetson Bennett + opportunity to learn under Matthew Stafford.
Looks like it will be 1 Old Dawg teaching another Young Dawg some new tricks.
https://ugawire.usatoday.com/2023/0...rback-stetson-bennett/?itm_source=parsely-api
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Gators offer speedy Texas WR in class of 2025
Florida football recruiting (& QB D J Lagway) have already done a fantastic job of expanding its presence in Texas and starting to land some elite players from that state in the class of 2024.
We are a late entry for Williams hoping Lagway can help us make up some ground.
Now, they’re looking to keep that momentum rolling with some more Texas talent in the 2025 cycle.
Hudl Clips
Yesterday the Gators extended an offer to Taz Williams Jr., a speedy wide receiver from Red Oak, Texas in the class of ’25. Williams also holds offers from Georgia, Alabama, Ohio State, and others.
247 Sports Composite Rankings have Taz ranked as the 211th-best player in the country, the 29th-best wideout in his class, and the 34th-best player out of Texas.
At 6’0”-175 he has the size advantage over most corners he plays against, and his film features a couple of plays where he’s able to use that size to his advantage, primarily in the red zone.
He’s a great endzone threat and can go up and over a defender to grab a well-placed ball.
Williams also has great speed on the field. He runs track as well as playing football and has a personal record of 23.01 in the 200m which he recorded on March 4th of this year.
https://hailfloridahail.com/2023/05/01/florida-football-recruiting-gators-offer-taz-williams/
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I think Amos has played a little safety I read. I think Moten will be more of the same except for things like when Dean has no idea who he is supposed to be responsible for in coverage. Not sure Moten will become a starter for sure but we can use the depth.
So, why has the development of Max Brown gone so slowly?
Fall 2022 all the 1st team practice time was spent on AR and Miller.
So obviously that proved that Brown was/is a slow learner, unlike HS when he walked on the practice field, learned the offense, and for the 1st time playing organized football, he still earned the starting job. Then going 24-0 in his 2 regular seasons as the starter....
"Now, just like last season, the Gators split all of the first-team reps between 2 QB's in spring camp, and neither Mertz nor Miller created enough separation to earn the label of first-team signal-caller by the conclusion of the Orange and Blue game on April 13."
Just For Comaprison: on the new xfer in QB.
Mertz had 4,405 passing yards, 38 TD's, 26 Ints across four seasons with the Badgers
Trask had 4,283 passing yards, 43 TD's, 8 Ints, across just his Sr season with the Gators.
So Miller has already proven to not be SEC starter quality, and Mertz has just proven in the Spring that he's no better than the failed Jack.... 🤓
iG Speculations: Those 3 2023 RB's better be ALL WORLD quality for 2023....
For another QB Comp[arison:
Tim Tebow HS Sr at 3A Nease:
Had 3,302 passing yards, 15.3 Ave, 31 TD's, 4 Ints.
Rushing yards, 1,163 yards, 6.36 ypc, 21 TD's, LPF's ??
Combined 52 TD's to ??? TO's
Max Brown HS Sr at 3A Tulsa:
Had 2,750 passing yards, 16.5 Ave, 41 TD's, 4 Ints.
Rushing yards, 1,343 yards, 7.8 ypc, 20 TD's, LPF's ZERO
>>> Combined for 61 TD's to 4 TO's....
Using the available FACTS instead of any personal bias, tell me again which current Gator QB should be getting the coaching attention across the summer, and the 1st Team reps in Fall 2023 practice???
The SWAMP247 article's QB conclusion is total BS imoho....
"While the Gators may bring in another scholarship quarterback before the season-opener on Aug. 31 at Utah, the starting quarterback battle at Florida should be between Mertz and Miller. Whoever wins the job will be tasked with managing an offense that should be predominantly run-heavy in Napier's second year at the helm, while limiting game-changing turnovers – an issue that did hinder the offense's production at times during Richardson's lone season as the starter. Regardless, the position is one that continues to be monitored as Florida looks to identify its starting quarterback ahead of the season."
https://247sports.com/college/flori...chardson-Gervon-Dexter-209373006/#209373006_1
PS -- And here's to hoping that DL Watson doesn't make the same conditioning mistake that B-Ball C Jitoboh made while at UF. Which was imo, never working hard enough to get his weight and conditioning into final playing order.
PSS -- As to replacing WR Shorter, Pearsall while certainly a serviceable receiver, is not a Shorter type receiver. "But the truth is Shorter's speed and wingspan made him a threat in the passing game for the Gators, and they'll need someone to step up in his absence this season."
Pearsall 6-1 187
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Shorter -- 6-4 223 - NFL, + Henderson 6-3 195 xfer out.
Fraiziars - 6-4 218
Burke ----- 6-4 195
Douglas -- 6-3 203
K. Jackson 6-3 216
Just my own 'talking season' speculations and opinions which are open to adjustments....
Fall 2022 all the 1st team practice time was spent on AR and Miller.
So obviously that proved that Brown was/is a slow learner, unlike HS when he walked on the practice field, learned the offense, and for the 1st time playing organized football, he still earned the starting job. Then going 24-0 in his 2 regular seasons as the starter....
"Now, just like last season, the Gators split all of the first-team reps between 2 QB's in spring camp, and neither Mertz nor Miller created enough separation to earn the label of first-team signal-caller by the conclusion of the Orange and Blue game on April 13."
Just For Comaprison: on the new xfer in QB.
Mertz had 4,405 passing yards, 38 TD's, 26 Ints across four seasons with the Badgers
Trask had 4,283 passing yards, 43 TD's, 8 Ints, across just his Sr season with the Gators.
So Miller has already proven to not be SEC starter quality, and Mertz has just proven in the Spring that he's no better than the failed Jack.... 🤓
iG Speculations: Those 3 2023 RB's better be ALL WORLD quality for 2023....
For another QB Comp[arison:
Tim Tebow HS Sr at 3A Nease:
Had 3,302 passing yards, 15.3 Ave, 31 TD's, 4 Ints.
Rushing yards, 1,163 yards, 6.36 ypc, 21 TD's, LPF's ??
Combined 52 TD's to ??? TO's
Max Brown HS Sr at 3A Tulsa:
Had 2,750 passing yards, 16.5 Ave, 41 TD's, 4 Ints.
Rushing yards, 1,343 yards, 7.8 ypc, 20 TD's, LPF's ZERO
>>> Combined for 61 TD's to 4 TO's....
Using the available FACTS instead of any personal bias, tell me again which current Gator QB should be getting the coaching attention across the summer, and the 1st Team reps in Fall 2023 practice???
The SWAMP247 article's QB conclusion is total BS imoho....
"While the Gators may bring in another scholarship quarterback before the season-opener on Aug. 31 at Utah, the starting quarterback battle at Florida should be between Mertz and Miller. Whoever wins the job will be tasked with managing an offense that should be predominantly run-heavy in Napier's second year at the helm, while limiting game-changing turnovers – an issue that did hinder the offense's production at times during Richardson's lone season as the starter. Regardless, the position is one that continues to be monitored as Florida looks to identify its starting quarterback ahead of the season."
https://247sports.com/college/flori...chardson-Gervon-Dexter-209373006/#209373006_1
PS -- And here's to hoping that DL Watson doesn't make the same conditioning mistake that B-Ball C Jitoboh made while at UF. Which was imo, never working hard enough to get his weight and conditioning into final playing order.
PSS -- As to replacing WR Shorter, Pearsall while certainly a serviceable receiver, is not a Shorter type receiver. "But the truth is Shorter's speed and wingspan made him a threat in the passing game for the Gators, and they'll need someone to step up in his absence this season."
Pearsall 6-1 187
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Shorter -- 6-4 223 - NFL, + Henderson 6-3 195 xfer out.
Fraiziars - 6-4 218
Burke ----- 6-4 195
Douglas -- 6-3 203
K. Jackson 6-3 216
Just my own 'talking season' speculations and opinions which are open to adjustments....
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Then finally faced a team with better defenders and had to scramble around for all their rushing yards and had hardly any passing yards or completions because he couldnt hit receivers who had decent coverage as he had got so used to running around and finding WRs wide open. The game was sealed when he threw a pick in the end zone.
Insta,
Agree but think they also need a good OL.
Not sure we will have one the way injuries are going.
Plus don't forget Cam Carroll RB xfer from Tulane - good receiver out of the backfield.
Would love to see some 2 RB sets with him playing H Back.
TE a mess right now.
Have posted this before but it bears repeating -
Urban used to say that his QB needed to force the opposing defense to ACCOUNT for him (QB) as a runner on every play; keeping that defender out of pass coverage or from otherwise reacting to other Offensive plays.
IMO, a QB who could escape the rush & or just break off the called play & run when he saw an opening would be invaluable.
Sort of like Jordan Travis - FSU's Returning QB1 who made us look so bad last year.
Neither Mertz nor Miller capable of that.
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I am curious what the running game does without the defense knowing they have to account for Richardson possibly running. Its why I think 6-6 is likely as we need around 250+ passing in our decent games and that is well above what Mertz averaged in their non-joke games.
Jeff, a less than great OL needs a QB that can use his feet, plus make the 'Off Platform' throws while scrambling, (71+%)
As to TE, I believe that will be fine by Sept.
Dante Zanders 6-5 241 rsSr
Keon Zipperer 6-1 250 Sr
Jonathan Odom 6-5 244 Jr
Arlis Boardingham 6-3 246 rsFr
Andrew Savalinaea 6-3 275 rsFr
Scott Isacks III 6-4 250 rsFr
Hayden Hansen 6-6 259 rsFr
Tony Livingston 6-5 240 Fr
If the coaching staff can't get at least 2 of those ready to go, then pink slips are needed imo.
Max Brown 6-2 209 rsFr - HS Sr Rushing 1,343 yards, 7.8 ypc, 20 TD's, LPF's ZERO
Keeping in mind that in 27 HS games with those kinds of rushing numbers, he never missed a game due to injury. Tough kid.....
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Insta,
Agree on need for Mobile QB & hope you are correct on TE room recovering & actually catching some passes.
Teams win or lose games
But each player is judged by his own stats/performance.
Now feveredbrains, explain why Max Brown was awarded the Okla 3A Season MVP over the QB on the State Championship team.???? 🤓
Your highlight tape shows that. He built his stats up against mostly joke competition and had things easy with mostly wide open receivers due to his running ability in a weak league like that.
This coming year, just like last year with the TE production. depends on more than just the TE:
The OC/QB coach - Play calling. Play design. QB Passing Ability. QB Defense Recognition. Etc...
TE fails to get the call or the change to call. -- Goes to the bench, next TE up.
TE fails to catch a catchable pass. -- Goes to the bench, next TE up.
There is NO POINT in having position depth, if it's not used when a need is demonstrated.
And that goes for every position on the team imo....
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You FAILED to answer the MVP question. I'm not surprised by that.
I'm also not the one that awarded the 3A Season MVP Award to him.
And you've also not addressed Napiers comments on Max when he recruited him, why is that?
And could you give us the Playoff scores for the State 3A Champ? (crickets)
I think the only 2 capable of being any real receiving threat are the young ones -Boardingham and Livingston. Now whether the TEs are actually targeted much this season - who knows.
I told you why we were just fighting Central Michigan for him. Washington wasnt that interested in him.
Maybe give you his passing stats for that game?
Have you addressed why Napier said again this season he still has a lot to learn?
How is baseball going for him? If he is real good with that he may need to focus on it as it does take away from football study some.
Where are you getting your inside info on Washington's interest level?
Are you claiming that Wash attempts to flip/recruit those that they have little interest in???
While you attempt to ignore the Max stats for the other 24 games he played in and won...
Yep, all of the Spring 1st team reps went to AR/Miller then Mertz/Miller.
Learning requires a competent and interested QB coach, you know, the one that improved AR so much last year....
BN was invested in his Miller xfer. -- Then he has invested in his Mertz xfer
All the while mostly ignoring and not investing in Max it seems to me.
Looking forward, is BN afraid that if Max played and looked good, that 5-star Lagway would then decommit? But if he instead strings Max along, he'll end up with both QB-dt's Max and Lagway on roster for 2024, and he can then dump his 2 xfer losers while saving wasted xfer face??? Jus-wondering and speculating...
PS
2021 Okla CLASS 3A Playoffs
State Champ
Holland Hall 24 - 16 Lincoln Christian Max (-8)
Semifinals – Nov. 26
Holland Hall 35, Verdigris 6 (-29)
Quarterfinals – Nov. 19
Holland Hall 34, Perkins-Tryon 14 (-20)
First Round – Nov. 12
Holland Hall 62, Checotah 0 (-62)
Give it up we only had to wrestle him away from Central Michigan and he played joke competition mostly. Maybe he will eventually do good but there is nothing on tape like there was with Trask to point to real good passing ability. You can keep dreaming he is at the Heisman ceremony but I doubt that happens.
See if Washington wants him in the portal I guess.
I have a feeling we will find out again this season that a certain position is much more important for winning games than some others. We really only have 2 games where you say the team and location of the game makes it a very likely loss - @LSU and Georgia (and only 3 teams that have better overall talent) but without having a top notch QB the chance we go 10-2 or even 9-3 is almost zero.
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Fever,
If they can't gain admissions to the Flagship University in the State of Florida, we don't need them
We are not a part of the NFL Farm System.
Repeat performance: UF again ranked No. 5 among public universities by U.S. News & World Report
For the second year in a row, theUniversity of Florida is listed as one of the top five public research universities in the nation, according to the 2023 Best Colleges rankings released today by U.S. News & World Report.
Spurrier, Wuerffel , & Tebow gained admission & graduated from the Univ of Florida; they also earned some cute little statues for their athletic prowess.
IMO, the blame should be placed of the student/athlete not the admissions department.
https://news.ufl.edu/2022/09/2023-rankings/
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Elite IMG Academy DL David Stone Jr. Sets Latest Visit to Florida
Florida will host one of the nation's top prospects, regardless of position, "soon" in IMG Academy defensive lineman David Stone Jr.
Stone said in March that Florida was one of the schools recruiting him the hardest, and it would appear that his upcoming trip represents reciprocated interest. It will mark his fourth campus visit, following his most recent trip on March 9 and two conducted last year.
Stone, 6-foot-4 1/2, 283-pounds, is considered the No. 2 defensive lineman and No. 8 overall prospect in the class of 2024 by the 247Sports composite rankings. He produced 25 total tackles with eight for loss in four games logged during his junior season, per MaxPreps.
Hours before Stone's announcement on Wednesday, his teammate and fellow IMG Academy 2024 defensive lineman, Jayden Jackson, tabbed Florida as one of his top five schools.
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...ite-img-academy-david-stone-sets-latest-visit
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Florida Gators OL Target Marcus Mascoll Sets Official Visit
Offensive lineman Marcus Mascoll, a talent Billy Napier has deemed a hidden gem in the 2024 cycle, schedules an official visit to Florida.
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...-line-marcus-mascoll-sets-official-visit-2024
Ju’Juan Johnson preparing for his official visit to see the Florida Gators
The Florida Gators coaching staff hosted a lot of top prospects on campus during the spring and they’re now in the process of setting up official visits for this summer.
One prospect who plans to visit this summer is athlete/defensive back Ju’Juan Johnson (5-11, 178, Lafayette, LA. Lafayette Christian Academy) who says the Gators are recruiting him hard.
https://www.gatorcountry.com/featur...his-official-visit-to-see-the-florida-gators/
Conflicting reports on Johnson - LSU will obviously be in contention for his LOI until the end; but Colorado & Coach Prime also seem to be in the hunt.
https://uga.rivals.com/news/rivals250-db-ju-juan-johnson-commits-to-colorado-over-lsu-florida
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He made it sound like delays in confirming things is possibly part of it. That talk about education is nonsense to a degree imo and will keep hurting us if it isnt improved at admissions. Also we have players just like everyone else majoring in recreation mgmt you would be shocked somehow got admitted or got a degree. The same with Universities with higher admission standards than UF.
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4-star Peach State tight end gets coaches visit from Florida
Another Mega June Recruiting Visit
Gator's outside linebacker coach Mike Peterson has been out on the road this week visiting a handful of prep prospects at their respective high schools — particularly, in the north Florida and southern Georgia regions.
The former Gators linebacker is scheduled to meet up with a few recruits on Wednesday while embarked upon his current trip, stopping by to see four-star tight end Amir Jackson out of Portal (Georgia). The 6-foot-4-inch, 223-pound end was originally offered by former tight ends coach William Peagler — who has since moved on to the NFL — leaving Russ Callaway as the leader in his recruitment.
Jackson is planning on making an extended trip to Gainesville for the weekend of June 16.
The three-sport standout had 22 catches for 428 yards and four touchdowns in 2022, while also stepping up at the safety position with 71 tackles, two forced fumbles and an interception. He also plays basketball and runs track.
https://gatorswire.usatoday.com/202...-recruiting-amir-jackson-mike-peterson-visit/
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