Gators to Hire Ron Roberts as LB Coach, Co-Defensive Coordinator ?
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Matthew’s. His best stats/starts came in a Bears uniform. Grossman best years were with the Bears also.
I’m happy for AR and wish him the best of luck. I don’t think he will turn out to be worthy as the #4 pick but oh well. His ceiling is certainly high but I just don’t think he’s an accurate passer. Most QBs don’t improve a lot in that area. They are banking on him improving in that area like Josh Allen but it is very rare. One thing is for certain is he’s going to get paid big time so he has that going for him.
The Miller time was just poking at you. As far as the Franks situation I was one of the posters saying a change needed to happen and Mullen was being hard headed. I was calling for Jones to get experience I think but gladly would have loved to have seen Trask or Jones given a chance ealier with how Franks was playing.
I see it about the same and their Josh Allen comparison is inaccurate imo as I watched them a few late nights and he was a decent passer in college. I cant think of anyone ever going 1st round that was as limited in passing as Richardson.
Other schools that made the cut include Georgia, Texas, Alabama, and others.
Early goings for Ross & we are behind the curve.
https://hailfloridahail.com/2023/04/27/florida-football-recruiting-gators-5-star-jordan-ross/
4* (Rivals 6.0) WR Malachi Wideman (6-5, 190 - Venice, FL)
New in Portal
QB Tyler Buchner, Notre Dame to Alabama
Over 160 Transfer Portal QB listed - most have come & gone.
https://athlonsports.com/college-fo...ll-players-in-transfer-portal-tracker-2022-23
Only 2 days left (April 30) to enter portal
https://247sports.com/Season/2023-Football/TransferPortal/?positiongroupkey=1
Looked at current QB entry list - Nathan McElroy & Casey Thompson & didn't see anything special.
BUT
I'm not CBN so who knows.
Hoping he draws the same conclusion & does not waste a scholarship on a current Portal QB.
Best new entry player I saw was
Explosive three-sport star and wide receiver from Venice High School in Florida … A high four-star prospect by Rivals, 247, & ESPN … Rated the No. 10 wide receiver in the country by Rivals and No. 22 at his position by 247 …Rivals 100 - No. 56 overall prospect in the Class of 2020 by Rivals
Portal Tracker says he is transferring from Jackson State with immediate eligibility & 4 years left.
I think we should take a look at him
He is from Venice, Florida which I think gives us an edge
New in Portal
QB Tyler Buchner, Notre Dame to Alabama
Over 160 Transfer Portal QB listed - most have come & gone.
https://athlonsports.com/college-fo...ll-players-in-transfer-portal-tracker-2022-23
Only 2 days left (April 30) to enter portal
https://247sports.com/Season/2023-Football/TransferPortal/?positiongroupkey=1
Looked at current QB entry list - Nathan McElroy & Casey Thompson & didn't see anything special.
BUT
I'm not CBN so who knows.
Hoping he draws the same conclusion & does not waste a scholarship on a current Portal QB.
Best new entry player I saw was
4* (Rivals 6.0) WR Malachi Wideman (6-5, 190 - Venice, FL)
Explosive three-sport star and wide receiver from Venice High School in Florida … A high four-star prospect by Rivals, 247, & ESPN … Rated the No. 10 wide receiver in the country by Rivals and No. 22 at his position by 247 …Rivals 100 - No. 56 overall prospect in the Class of 2020 by Rivals
Portal Tracker says he is transferring from Jackson State with immediate eligibility & 4 years left.
I think we should take a look at him
He is from Venice, Florida which I think gives us an edge
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Sometimes, when a 4 or 5 star player goes to a small college, grades are an issue. Maybe he went to Jackson State because of Deion and maybe he's trying to follow him to Colorado. I don't know, But sometimes academics are the reason some of these highly rated kids don't go to a P5 school.
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Ocala,
You could easily be right about the academics - IDK
BUT
FWIW - long time FSU commit who then flipped to Tenn.
Granted, getting in to the SOW or Tenn no big deal - but Vols did admit him & he evidently did a RS year there.
2020 - FRESHMAN
Played in six games as a reserve wide receiver during his true freshman season ... Made first-career catch, a 24-yard grab down the sideline, against Kentucky (10/17) ... Made collegiate debut in 35-12 win over Missouri (10/3).https://utsports.com/sports/football/roster/malachi-wideman/12914
Most of these top players are getting in the portal in that window where they can do spring practice with their new team. Unless there are some last day announcements the QB portal guys this latest window have been lackluster. It will be really large at the end of the 2023 season though.
Another FL kid In portal - leaving ND
IMO, interesting player
Ocala (Fla.) Trinity Catholic 4* (Rivals 5.8) OT Caleb Johnson flipped his pledge from Auburn to Notre Dame, giving the Irish their fifth offensive line verbal in the 2021 cycle
I wonder what his potential is. I guess he didn't see any playing time until late last season but some O linemen aren't ready until their 3rd year. He left ND right when spring practice started.
Fever,
I don't know his potential either, but CBN has a whole staff that can figure that out.
He is a FL kid who was admitted to ND (good academically) & IMO he is worth checking out - thinking Brian Kelly was his original ND coach.
4* CB Ju'Juan Johnson UF OV - June 9-11
Former Colorado Buffaloes cornerback commit Ju'Juan Johnson has locked in an official visit to Gainesville for June 9-11, according to On3Sports.The trip will mark his second trek to the University of Florida since his Dec. 27 offer, following up his one-day stay with the Gators staff on Jan. 14.
He simultaneously announced a visit to Ole Miss for June 18-20 on Thursday.
Possessing elite-level athleticism at the prep level, Johnson has served in a versatile role, resulting in an uber-productive campaign as a focal point in the Lafayette Christian Academy offense. He produced 3,976 yards and 43 touchdowns through the air while adding 1,284 yards and 17 additional scores rushing as a junior in 2022.
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...ledge-jujuan-johnson-schedules-official-visit
2024 season playoff schedule. Will we be playing on either Dec. 20th or Dec. 21st?
All it will likely take is a 9-3 record but with the new SEC 9 game format with no divisions that 9-3 will be like going 10-2 in the old SEC East. We will likely need a non-true freshman proven QB to have any chance for 9-3 that season.
All it will likely take is a 9-3 record but with the new SEC 9 game format with no divisions that 9-3 will be like going 10-2 in the old SEC East. We will likely need a non-true freshman proven QB to have any chance for 9-3 that season.
- First round -- Friday, Dec 20 (one game) and Saturday, Dec. 21 (three games)
- Quarterfinals -- Tuesday, Dec. 31 (three games) and Wednesday, Jan. 1 (one game)
- Semifinals -- Thursday and/or Friday, Jan. 9-10
- College Football Playoff National Championship -- Monday, Jan. 20
Don't think there are any QBs of interest in TP. Even if Austin Simmons were to reclassify, don't think that a HS Senior can be the answer - IMO, better for him to finish HS.
Lagway won't be here, so that leaves Mertz, Miller, or Brown - if he sticks around.
Would love to be surprised, but IMO, neither one of them has shown that he is the answer - still don't believe that Max has gotten a fair chance to show what he is capable of.
Mertz & Miller have already shown that they are NOT SEC QB1 material so why didn't CBN play Max for a 1/4 in the O&B game to see what he can do.
I think that we will just have to "suck it up" for 2023 & hope that 2024 is good for us.
Fever,
admire your Optimism; hope it pays off
LOL
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There will be quite a few better than Mertz or Miller after the 2023 season when that portal window opens. It would be malpractice not to get a good 1 year rental for 2024.
Fever,
Agree !
Problem as I see it- a good one year QB in the portal has a short use by / expiration date.
He doesn't have time to wait around; that was why Wake Forest QB Sam Hartman transferred to Notre Dame.
A good one year QB can't risk that the Gators will become good enough to showcase his skills & get him to the NFL.
It's the chicken or the egg situation - what comes first ?
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Should the Gators go for Casey Thompson in the transfer portal?
Fever,Here is another Mertz - a 1 year wonder - for you.
His expiration date is marked on the package.
If he's any good - why did he transfer - twice ?
Another Emory Jones ?
If he's any good; he won't take a chance on the Gators. We won't be good enough in 2023 to punch his ticket to the NFL.
He's not any better than Mertz or Miller - we don't need him !
Hoping CBN will pass on this "Fool's Gold."
Use the scholarships (if you can) for Transfers with a better expiration date -
WR Malachi Wideman
OR
OT Caleb Johnson
Talented Florida players who may want to come home & play in front of friends & family.
Casey Thompson, Nebraska
Thompson was slated to push Jeff Sims for Nebraska's starting quarterback job this fall, but he opted to transfer in late April. The Oklahoma native spent the first four years of his career at Texas, including the '21 season where he threw for 2,113 yards and 24 touchdowns and ran for 157 yards and four scores over 12 games. Thompson started 10 games for the Cornhuskers last year and threw for 2,407 yards and 17 touchdowns.
https://athlonsports.com/college-football/college-footballs-best-quarterbacks-transfer-portal-2023
Nebraska QB Casey Thompson entered the transfer portal this morning, and this could be the guy that the Gators have been waiting on.
Click Bait
If he just entered the portal, the Gators wouldn't have know he wanted to transfer & couldn't have been "waiting on him !" LOL
After committing to Texas in the class of 2018, he transferred to the Cornhuskers before the start of last season and finds himself looking for his third school to finish out his college career.
He had the best year of his career in his junior year at Texas, throwing for 2,113 yards with a 63.2% completion rate, a 24:9 TD-to-INT ratio, and a 154.7 passer rating.
Last year with Nebraska some of his numbers took a slight hit, throwing for 2,407 yards with a 63.1% completion rate, a 16:10 TD-to-INT ratio, and a 150.1 passer rating.
https://hailfloridahail.com/2023/04/28/florida-football-gators-casey-thompson-transfer-portal/
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I would sign him if I was Napier. We probably need someone mobile like that to have any chance at 8-4.
Fever,
If he's any good, why would he sign with UF ?
To Repeat
"We won't be good enough in 2023 to punch his ticket to the NFL."
If he's not any good, why would we want - another Mertz ?
Casey Thompson couldn’t beat out Jeff Simms. Not sure he would bring much to the program.
Name me another HS QB that had never played organized football until walking on the field in his HS Jr season and did ANY OF THIS: Consider his consistency in every area, including team leadership.
Jr + Sr W/L Record = 24-0 Regular Season,,, 25-2 overall. (12-1 + 13-1)
2 Season Combined Passing
255 of 356, 71.6% for 4,416 Yds, 17.3 Yds/Rec, 68 TD's, 14 Ints
2 Season Combined Rushing
327 for 2,335 Yds, 7.1 ypc, 33 TD's, 1 LPF
2 Season Combined Offensive Output
6,751 Yds, 101 TD's, 15 TO's (better HS stats than Tebow, playing at the same 3A level)
And he improved in both rushing and passing from his Jr to Sr season.
Sr - Okla 3A Season MVP - P - 41 TD's, 4 Ints - R - 20 TD's, Zero LPF's, 61 TD's to 4 TO's.
IMO, any Quality coaching staff should be able to bring him up to speed by his 2nd season in a program, because his HS did that on the spot, immediately...
IMOHO --- It is a major decision making FAIL on the Coaching staff, to continue to bring in failed xfer QB's instead of putting all of that time and coaching energy into the HS recruit that they flipped to come to UF.
(and yes, it pisses me off, just like McLame did with Del Rio, Appleby, & Zaire)
Which is why the Gator QB situation now has me in the DON'T CARE ZONE for 2023....
Didn't we flip him from Western Michigan? I am certain the coaches would play him if they felt he was ready.
Insta doesnt want to hear that. I think we did beat out Coach Mac for him. The coach Insta said was as clueless as Napier is now when it comes to QBs.
Ignore the fact that Wash. went after him once he was backing off from his initial early commit.
Ignore the fact that Napier said that he was way under-rated as a 3-star.
Ignore the fact that it's the coaches job to GET HIM READY.
And please throw another couple of handfuls of BS confetti into the air, to help them cover the idiocy of where they are with their QB's after two Springs of being here....
Miller - xfer fail
Mertz - tied with the other xfer fail
Looking - for a 3rd failed xfer
Brown - bent over backwards to flip, to then be ignored
Leise - Fr *** so the feveredbrain & Countrygoater1 already know that he won't be up to speed for at least 3-4 years, and with 5-star DJ coming, none of the above will be needed except for maybe injury depth.
The likely end of yet another sad (lack-of-QB) coaching story....
PS - Hey feveredbrains, where is Engel and the rest of your favorite WO's that you were pushing over Max?
PSS - Coaches bail. Players bail. And even long time fans bail.
But no worries mates, everything is hunky-dorey in hogtown...
Ignore the fact that Napier said that he was way under-rated as a 3-star.
Ignore the fact that it's the coaches job to GET HIM READY.
And please throw another couple of handfuls of BS confetti into the air, to help them cover the idiocy of where they are with their QB's after two Springs of being here....
Miller - xfer fail
Mertz - tied with the other xfer fail
Looking - for a 3rd failed xfer
Brown - bent over backwards to flip, to then be ignored
Leise - Fr *** so the feveredbrain & Countrygoater1 already know that he won't be up to speed for at least 3-4 years, and with 5-star DJ coming, none of the above will be needed except for maybe injury depth.
The likely end of yet another sad (lack-of-QB) coaching story....
PS - Hey feveredbrains, where is Engel and the rest of your favorite WO's that you were pushing over Max?
PSS - Coaches bail. Players bail. And even long time fans bail.
But no worries mates, everything is hunky-dorey in hogtown...
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Max Brown isnt good enough to play in the SEC. Maybe he improves but he was 3rd strong all through the spring for a reason. All you had to do was even just watch the first 15 minutes of practice and watch routes on air and he wasn’t as good as Mertz or Miller. Stop trying to make this guy out to be the next Kyle Trask.
If we struggle like I think we will Brown will probably get a chance in the 2nd half of the season. It sounds like he isnt too accurate in practice according to some reports but who knows what will happen if he comes in. I would fully expect Miller to collapse if Mertz got injured this season. I think we need a proven QB next season for the one year while the true freshman gets up to speed for 2025 and maybe Brown moves on to find another opportunity to display his skills. Is he doing much in baseball? If he is and that is a priority of his then he probably stays here.
I'm actually not so worried about next year if Lagway is legit. Fact is freshmen QBs can dominate in the right system, with the way the rules are etc. If the rest of the team is in place and he's the real deal, I expect big things.
GBO,
Appreciate your points & sincerely hope you are right !
Just not sure the rest of the team is Ready to Rumble in the SEC.
Even if we have a mediocre year next year, we will survive & be better in 2024.
Truly believe CBN is making progress in rebuilding
The Mighty Gators !
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How do you destroy a HS QB's Passing Accuracy?
Well, you just send him to ???? 🙄
Jr - 88 of 121 for 1,666 yds, 72.7%, 18.9 Yds/comp, 27 TD's, 10 Ints
Sr - 167 of 235 for 2,750 yds, 71.1%, 16.5 Yds/Comp, 41 TD's, 4 Ints.
And he did that while running for 2,335 yds, 33 TD's with 1 LPF.
I don't need to 'make him out' to be anything, because you are what your film/stats says you are. 🤓
Now, under Napier's year+ level of coaching efforts and development:
He has devolved so far that he can't beat out 2 failed xfer QB's, or even beat out the WO's? WTF-over???
I'm not disparaging anyone here, just showing the observable facts and giving MOHO's.... Please feel free to discuss and show me where i'm incorrect with your own facts. How far might Max have improved, had all of the time wasted on xfers in both the Spring and in two Falls been spent on him??? (crickets)
And BTW, IF Max is truly this bad and not SEC quality, then how do you judge Billy's recruiting ability in going after Max and spending a Ship on him?
And what did Billy say when he recruited Max?
"I think Max when you turn the tape on, you can immediately see the baseball background," Napier continued. "The off-platform throws. Really a natural thrower. A guy that is projected to be kind of a middle-round MLB draft pick in baseball. (seems like Billy watched/judged the same tape that I did)
"He was 6-foot-1 and a half, 200 pounds on his visit. Dad played receiver in the NFL. Really a good-looking athlete. We think he has upside. He just started playing quarterback two years ago. And a good runner. The guy can make some plays with his feet."
Liar? Coach speak? Or just clueless on talent as a recruiter?
You make the call....
www.si.com
Well, you just send him to ???? 🙄
Jr - 88 of 121 for 1,666 yds, 72.7%, 18.9 Yds/comp, 27 TD's, 10 Ints
Sr - 167 of 235 for 2,750 yds, 71.1%, 16.5 Yds/Comp, 41 TD's, 4 Ints.
And he did that while running for 2,335 yds, 33 TD's with 1 LPF.
I don't need to 'make him out' to be anything, because you are what your film/stats says you are. 🤓
Now, under Napier's year+ level of coaching efforts and development:
He has devolved so far that he can't beat out 2 failed xfer QB's, or even beat out the WO's? WTF-over???
I'm not disparaging anyone here, just showing the observable facts and giving MOHO's.... Please feel free to discuss and show me where i'm incorrect with your own facts. How far might Max have improved, had all of the time wasted on xfers in both the Spring and in two Falls been spent on him??? (crickets)
And BTW, IF Max is truly this bad and not SEC quality, then how do you judge Billy's recruiting ability in going after Max and spending a Ship on him?
And what did Billy say when he recruited Max?
"I think Max when you turn the tape on, you can immediately see the baseball background," Napier continued. "The off-platform throws. Really a natural thrower. A guy that is projected to be kind of a middle-round MLB draft pick in baseball. (seems like Billy watched/judged the same tape that I did)
"He was 6-foot-1 and a half, 200 pounds on his visit. Dad played receiver in the NFL. Really a good-looking athlete. We think he has upside. He just started playing quarterback two years ago. And a good runner. The guy can make some plays with his feet."
Liar? Coach speak? Or just clueless on talent as a recruiter?
You make the call....
Billy Napier, Florida Gators See Upside in QB Max Brown
Billy Napier discusses the potential that quarterback Max Brown brings to the Florida Gators.
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I doubt we are dominant enough for a true freshman not to struggle in 2024. A few have done alright in the SEC but not many. I think a Georgia or Bama like team is more likely to see a true freshman play decent.
Florida Offers Louisiana Transfer DB
Florida offered a familiar face on Monday evening, beginning its pursuit of Louisiana defensive back and transfer portal prospect Trenayvian Amos (6-1,197), RS JR.Amos has played extensively at outside corner, with some Nickle & Safety thrown in. Our CB Room in decent shape so he is perhaps more likely to shift to Nickle or Safety if he follows CBN to UF.
His transfer seems like O’Cyrus Torrence; he wants 1 year in the Bigs (SEC) to solidify his NFL draft status.
Florida exited the spring transfer portal window — which closed Apr. 30 but requires as many as two days to process entries — with five scholarship openings on its 85-man roster ahead of the 2023 season.
https://www.si.com/college/florida/...-louisiana-transfer-portal-db-trenayvian-amos
The 6-foot-1, 197-pound cornerback is coming off a season in which he had career highs in total tackles (35), solo tackles (26) and pass deflections (8).
In his career, Amos has appeared in 34 games in three seasons having recorded 59 tackles (46) solo, 14 pass deflections, one forced fumble, and one interception.
https://1037thegame.com/ragin-cajuns-cornerback-amos-enters-ncaa-transfer-portal/
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