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Walls are closing in on DJT.... *All of Trump Charged threads have been merged - post here*

On the 87th attempt, have the dems FINALLY got Trump?


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You remain among the less than 100 total people in America trying to defend this indictment. Stop being intellectually dishonest. It's not about the rule of law. It's not about the NDA with Stormy Daniels. It's about taking out your political opponent.

The modern democrat is amongst the company of Hitler, Stalin, Putin, and the other dictators who arrest their adversaries.

You are my brother from another mother.
 
Trump thought he could prosecute Comey and Clinton himself

He couldn't. And he didn't.

Trump Wanted to Order Justice Dept. to Prosecute Comey and Clinton

He couldn't. And he didn't.

Bragg promised to indict (and convict) Trump as a campaign pitch. He could do this, because it was within his power in the position he was to be elected to. Now he's indicted him. To fulfill a campaign promise.

If you don't see the fundamental difference, then you're either being intentionally obtuse or you're not worthy of debating this with. I imagine the answers lies somewhere in the middle. Go back to running the Alligator Army twitter account.
 
True, but some will at the same time see him constantly on TV heading to a courtroom, and constantly hear MSNBC saying he's a criminal, and they will believe it.

My guess is the indies he picks up will likely cancel out with the ones he loses.
The sheep will still be sheep. MSNBC, et all will say the same things even if Biden is caught on film molesting a goat. The crunch here is that knowledegable porch sitters may end up getting out of their rockers and voting Trump.
 
I mean yeah, I'd rather he didn't do it, but it's pretty low on my list of cares for Donald J Trump.

The act of calling her a horseface itself, that's low for me as well. It's what that type of reaction can cost him (and by proxy you and I)...that's what troubles me.


Just like I would rather Nick Saban didn't cuss out the 22 year-old rookie reporter at the Gadsden Star when he really just wants to send a message to his team after a bad game.

I'd rather Saban not do that, but it's pretty low on the list of things I'd like him to do as Alabama's head coach. Same with Trump. If both guys hit on the Top 20 things I want them to do, I'm not gonna get too upset if they whiff on priority number 38.

I don't disagree. But if cussing out a 22 YO rookie reporter begins to jeopardize Saban's ability to win games and build a successful program, I'll want him to stop doing it as well.

You have the average persons sympathy after these BS indictments...don't piss it away, even just a portion of it, to call a horsefaced pornstar a horseface.
 
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It's the truth. If I read an article on a right leaning site that makes more out of something stupid than it should, I roll my eyes and immediately stop reading - they don't do this all the time, regardless of what you want to believe. The leftist sites routinely take it too far, especially the ones you mentioned. I mean the onion / babylon bee too far, which renders them a joke ...
 
I hate to tell you, but almost every liberal in America is blindly defending these indictments. Because their politics rule their lives.

I've actually been stunned by the number who haven't.

I'm not claiming it's a huge number...but hell, some of them are calling BS. I'm honestly stupefied.
 
He couldn't. And he didn't.

If you don't see the fundamental difference, then you're either being intentionally obtuse or you're not worthy of debating this with. I imagine the answers lies somewhere in the middle. Go back to running the Alligator Army twitter account.
Both boss, both.

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Bama it’s all becoming comical at this point, did you listen to his speech from Mar-a- lago? Man what a clown just saying the same old garbage, unapologetic even to his wife and damn family, I’d kick his ass myself if I could get close enough to him

I didn't...I was working when he spoke and I haven't gone back and watched it yet.
 
The act of calling her a horseface itself, that's low for me as well. It's what that type of reaction can cost him (and by proxy you and I)...that's what troubles me.
I don't disagree. But if cussing out a 22 YO rookie reporter begins to jeopardize Saban's ability to win games and build a successful program, I'll want him to stop doing it as well.

You have the average persons sympathy after these BS indictments...don't piss it away, even just a portion of it, to call a horsefaced pornstar a horseface.
I don't particularly like Saban but my respect would rise up another notch. Spurrier used to do that with other COACHES. Not cussing out, but it was Trump-esque. You would be surprised how many think like I do. 😂 Trump IS America's Saban. :cool:
 
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He couldn't. And he didn't.



He couldn't. And he didn't.

Bragg promised to indict (and convict) Trump as a campaign pitch. He could do this, because it was within his power in the position he was to be elected to. Now he's indicted him. To fulfill a campaign promise.

If you don't see the fundamental difference, then you're either being intentionally obtuse or you're not worthy of debating this with. I imagine the answers lies somewhere in the middle. Go back to running the Alligator Army twitter account.


Lets see who's intentionally obtuse...the only difference is that trump was so stupid he didn't know how government works.

Do you think Barr was doing this on his own without direction from trump?
Talk about being willifully ignorant of the obvious... 🤣

Take your fake ass ideology and faux outrage somewhere else

We already have a bunch low principled conservatives that ignore anything critical of trump
You don't add anything to the discussion

  • Did William Barr lie in the Mueller case about obstruction? Is that "weaponization" of the justice dept?
  • Did Barr shut down investigations into trump? Is that "weaponization" of the justice dept?
  • Did trump fire the acting AG to install an unqualified political partisan to lie to Georgia about the election?
  • Did trump attempt to take political retribution against Hillary Clinton? Did he fail at suing her?
  • Did trump attempt to take political retribution against Leticia James? Did he fail at suing her?
  • DId trump take political retribution against Comey & McCabe?
  • Did trump get Russia, China, and Ukraine to illegally


https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...-probes-of-comey-mccabe-john-kelly-tells-nyt/
Trump requested IRS probes of Comey, McCabe: John Kelly tells NYT
BY JULIA MUELLER - 11/13/22 10:30 PM ET


https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/06/tru...s-suit-he-filed-against-hillary-clinton-.html
Trump appeals nearly $1 million in sanctions for ‘frivolous’ suit he filed against Hillary Clinton
PUBLISHED MON, FEB 6 2023 11:40 AM EST UPDATED MON, FEB 6 20232:57 PM EST
  • Former President Donald Trump and one of his lawyers said they are appealing nearly $1 million in sanctions imposed on them by a federal judge in Florida.
  • The judge sanctioned them for what he called their “frivolous” lawsuit against Hillary Clinton, former FBI officials, the Democratic National Committee and others.
  • Trump dropped another suit pending before the same judge against New York Attorney General Letitia James related to her $250 million fraud lawsuit against Trump and the Trump Organization.
 
I don't particularly like Saban but my respect would rise up another notch. Spurrier used to do that with other COACHES. Not cussing out, but it was Trump-esque. You would be surprised how many think like I do. 😂 Trump IS America's Saban. :cool:

Like GOMM, I cringe when Saban does it.

We both know why he's doing it...

A. Message is for his players

B. Shaping the narrative

...but we still cringe. If it begins to cost him success, I'll be more vocal about wanting him to stop.
 
...but we still cringe. If it begins to cost him success, I'll be more vocal about wanting him to stop.
The irony is that if there was no WuKungFlu and the fraud that evolved from it, Trump would still be President and we'd still be winning, mean tweets notwithstanding.
 
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Lets see who's intentionally obtuse...the only difference is that trump was so stupid he didn't know how government works.

I never said we elected someone who understood basic civics. His threats were empty. Unfortunately, it's clear by their actions that your sides threats were not. I'd argue there's more differences than Trump's ignorance of separation of powers. Namely, your side is following through with political persecutions.

Do you think Barr was doing this on his own without direction from trump?

Can you link me to where Barr (or any state prosecutors in any conservative jurisdiction), at Trump's direction, indicted a direct political opponent?
 
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Unnamed sources I'm guessing?

Kalim, EVERYONE knew that he was running again in 2024.

NO ONE believed that he wouldn't run in 2024.

To espouse this BS that he's running to avoid prosecution on bullsh1t charges is stupid and beneath you. This is a dead-end debate for you...it's illogical and doesn't pass the smell test even for the libbiest of libs.
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It's the truth. If I read an article on a right leaning site that makes more out of something stupid than it should, I roll my eyes and immediately stop reading - they don't do this all the time, regardless of what you want to believe. The leftist sites routinely take it too far, especially the ones you mentioned. I mean the onion / babylon bee too far, which renders them a joke ...
99% of the articles linked on this forum comes from fringe right wing people. This are sites that label dems baby eaters, pedos, killers and the deep state. Yet, the salon goes or vox goes too far for your liking. I am not telling you what to believe or read. I am not even criticizing what you believe. I just find it funny that you don't notice that those sites are the same.
 
99% of the articles linked on this forum comes from fringe right wing people. This are sites that label dems baby eaters, pedos, killers and the deep state. Yet, the salon goes or vox goes too far for your liking. I am not telling you what to believe or read. I am not even criticizing what you believe. I just find it funny that you don't notice that those sites are the same.
Not true. Just today I posted a Vox article stating Bragg is an unhinged lunatic. That guy will probably be cleaning out his cubicle tonight. 😂
 
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Was Hillary ever indicted for any crimes? I must have missed that.
That's convenient that you missed them actively trying and finding nothing.

 
That's convenient that you missed them actively trying and finding nothing.

PLEASE tell me you do not believe they looked in to HiLIARy and "found nothing"! Tell me you REALLY forgot your sarcasm font here?
 
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That's convenient that you missed them actively trying and finding nothing.


That investigation took place after the 2016 election.
 
@BSC911 sex outside of marriage is a sin. what else can one say about it, and same sex can never marry according to God's plan for his creations. You simply rationalize sin and persecute Donald Trump when you have a splinter in your eyes.
Be gone, sodomite.

@BSC911 sex outside of marriage is a sin. what else can one say about it, and same sex can never marry according to God's plan for his creations. You simply rationalize sin and persecute Donald Trump when you have a splinter in your eyes.
Be gone, sodomite.
Well, one could condemn it which you never seem to do with Trump for some reason. No splinter in my eye as I've been faithfully married for over 30 years.

So just more bearing false witness by you once again, which is also a sin which you dont seem to care about either. You need to confess. I know a priest if you need help.
 
PLEASE tell me you do not believe they looked in to HiLIARy and "found nothing"! Tell me you REALLY forgot your sarcasm font here?
"They" were the Trump Department of Justice. If they found more than nothing why did they not "lock her up?'
 
"They" were the Trump Department of Justice. If they found more than nothing why did they not "lock her up?'
Your timeline is spinning like a ballyhoo rigged backwards. That was during Loretta Lynch's watch. Did you forget the "chance" meeting of her and Slick Willie on a commercial airflight? :rolleyes: 😂 Good gracious we have the planet's most ignorant trolls. Let me guess, you still haven't graduated UF, right? 😂
 
I think that’s what happened in 2020. I think the overnight stoppages happened because Trump voters way outperformed expectations.

They had a plan B and it needed to be executed when no observers were present. It took Biden to an unbelievable 81MM votes and created statistical data that was irrefutable.

It also proved that once an election is called no one has the balls to unring that bell.
Dr Shiva, as you know, testified in the AZ proceedings that the only way the numbers worked in the 2020 Presidential election were if every Hiden vote was counted 1.25 times, and every Trump vote was counted 0.75 times.

No other scenario produced the exact number of votes, That model did perfectly.

But yeah, just move on.
 
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I don't think so.

Some people would rather die in a fire than vote for Trump. But there are some swing people who can see just how ridiculous this is and they will swing Trump's way if he plays it right.
I've already agreed with that. I just think some fence-sitters will see the 24/7 coverage and lefty media telling them Trump is guilty....and they will assume he is.

I can't see Trump having a windfall pickup of independent voters from being frog-marched into courtroom after courtroom. At best, I think it will cancel out.

And Trump also loses the ability to campaign, in addition.

I see it as hurting Trump. You seem to think it will help. I disagree.
 
I don't disagree. But if cussing out a 22 YO rookie reporter begins to jeopardize Saban's ability to win games and build a successful program, I'll want him to stop doing it as well.
Again, I am of the mindset that Trump actually won 45 or so states last time, including California. I think his real vote total approached 100 M.

So the whole "Trump's got work to do if he wants to win' mentality is foreign to me. You think differently and that's fine.
 
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