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Walls are closing in on DJT.... *All of Trump Charged threads have been merged - post here*

On the 87th attempt, have the dems FINALLY got Trump?


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Whats the assumption here? That Trump is being targeted politically? I disagree. The WSJ lays out what's going on more succinctly than I can:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/alvin-...4-election-da-charges-stormy-daniels-f5c1b6e1

As to the rest of your post about other indictments, Trump has only been charged with one crime. I'm not going to speculate on whether I think future crimes of which he has yet to be indicted for are politically motivated or not. The only thing we know right now is that the one crime he has been indicted for thus far is a politically motivated farce.

If he is indicted on other crimes, once I read the indictments, then I'll make a judgment on those charges. Based on the precedent set by Bragg yesterday, they don't have any actual crimes and their motivations for investigating Trump are solely for political purposes. If Fulton County or DC or any other investigations appear otherwise, then I'll change my tune. I have my doubts, though.
He plays the victim like a pro, Trump put his rump out there with a big fat bullseye on his back so whoopie
 
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We don't. We hired him to Make America Great Again, not be nice to porn stars that are blackmailing him.

We leave worrying about such silliness to Kasich voters.

I don't care if it hurt horsefaces feelings. I'd just like him to be better. I'd just like for him to have an eff to give about decorum and the balance sheet of public opinion for normal Americans.

Beyond that, because even the above isn't a HUGE deal, I'd like for him to be a realist. I'd like for him to realize that when he lowers himself like this that the haters are going to use it against him. They will point to this and say, "SEE!!!....he's just as sh1t as horseface is. He's just like the pornstar."

He had some political capital here and people around the middle can genuinely sympathize and see that the left is screwing him and our electoral process. The left has screwed up big here.

But he decides to spend some of that capital by calling her a horseface? It just wasn't smart or economic.
 
Thank you for admitting that you like the idea of arresting your political opponents. I can think of some other historical figures that were into similar practices. I remind you, they were never the good guys:

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/political-prisoners

https://www.history.com/topics/european-history/great-purge

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/27/why...ted-and-what-it-means-for-russias-future.html

Heck, even CNN used to be against political persecutions:

https://www.cnn.com/2016/10/10/poli...osition-second-presidential-debate/index.html



Hard to get over your lack of understanding except to come to the conclusion you think politicians are somehow above the law...


https://www.yahoo.com/news/7-other-democracies-indicted-leaders-185236630.html
Here Are 7 Other Democracies That Have Indicted Their Leaders
Tara Law
Fri, March 31, 2023 at 2:52 PM EDT·3 min read

As news spread that former President Donald Trump had been indicted by a Manhattan grand jury, making him the first former U.S. President to be charged with a crime, his spokesperson, Liz Harrington likened the situation to a “banana republic.” His son, Donald Trump Jr., declared the case “Communist-level sh*t. This is stuff that would make Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot blush.” The former President is expected to be arraigned on Tuesday.

But a government that is accountable to the rule of law, and not subject to the whims of a king or a dictator, is considered one of the key tenets of democracy—and, many experts say, it is essential for leaders to be held accountable like anyone else. In fact, many countries that are considered free and highly functional democracies have prosecuted their leaders.
 
He plays the victim like a pro, Trump put his rump out there with a big fat bullseye on his back so whoopie
Getting persecuted because of your politics isn't playing the victim. Having a bullseye on your back because of your politics is the problem.

Having "a big fat bullseye" on your back is not the same thing as committing a crime and its not the basis for charging someone with a crime.
 
What? So you think Trump being forced to go to courthouse after courthouse and plead Not Guilty to nonexistent crimes is equal to him not being charged and getting to campaign as a free American?

Agree to disagree. Yes, some undecideds will be smart enough to see this is a farce and swing support to Trump, but there are just as many or more theo and goldmoms out there that just hate hate HATE how it looks that Trump is always on the news and they are always saying mean things about him!

No, hell no. But this is what will happen, they will continue to indict him and try to force him to spend all his time in court.

This will stop when they decide it's easier to just suspend the election.

No, not what I'm saying.

I'm saying that the Bragg's/Soros'/liberals screw up here can't be bought and it's value would be damn difficult to calculate. I'm saying that politically this has more value for Trump than a host of campaign stumps.

Moderates and even some liberals are calling BS on these indictments and, by proxy, the tactics of the hard left. That is gold.
 
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No, not what I'm saying.

I'm saying that the Bragg's/Soros'/liberals screw up here can't be bought and it's value would be damn difficult to calculate. I'm saying that politically this has more value for Trump than a host of campaign stumps.

Moderates and even some liberals are calling BS on these indictments and, by proxy, the tactics of the hard left. That is gold.
True, but some will at the same time see him constantly on TV heading to a courtroom, and constantly hear MSNBC saying he's a criminal, and they will believe it.

My guess is the indies he picks up will likely cancel out with the ones he loses.
 
Was Hillary ever indicted for any crimes? I must have missed that.

Because she wasn't guilty of anything....is it only a political operation depending on the result?

You're obvious avoidance anything that highlights your hypocrisy on these matters is comical


Bragg = bad for running on a message of indicting trump
trump = good for running on a message of indicting Hillary Clinton

You'll fit right in here with malone, navi & nail 🤣
 
Hard to get over your lack of understanding except to come to the conclusion you think politicians are somehow above the law...


But a government that is accountable to the rule of law, and not subject to the whims of a king or a dictator, is considered one of the key tenets of democracy—and, many experts say, it is essential for leaders to be held accountable like anyone else. In fact, many countries that are considered free and highly functional democracies have prosecuted their leaders.
You remain among the less than 100 total people in America trying to defend this indictment. Stop being intellectually dishonest. It's not about the rule of law. It's not about the NDA with Stormy Daniels. It's about taking out your political opponent.

The modern democrat is amongst the company of Hitler, Stalin, Putin, and the other dictators who arrest their adversaries.
 
One way around that would be to build such a lead as to make it impossible for the opposition to steal the election from you.
If only there were not so many people that TAKE from our Country, instead of contribute...we WOULD have a large lead. Little sissy libs wanting their college loans paid off and their kind.
 
I don't care if it hurt horsefaces feelings. I'd just like him to be better. I'd just like for him to have an eff to give about decorum and the balance sheet of public opinion for normal Americans.
I mean yeah, I'd rather he didn't do it, but it's pretty low on my list of cares for Donald J Trump.

Just like I would rather Nick Saban didn't cuss out the 22 year-old rookie reporter at the Gadsden Star when he really just wants to send a message to his team after a bad game.

I'd rather Saban not do that, but it's pretty low on the list of things I'd like him to do as Alabama's head coach. Same with Trump. If both guys hit on the Top 20 things I want them to do, I'm not gonna get too upset if they whiff on priority number 38.
 
You remain among the less than 100 total people in America trying to defend this indictment. Stop being intellectually dishonest. It's not about the rule of law. It's not about the NDA with Stormy Daniels. It's about taking out your political opponent.

The modern democrat is amongst the company of Hitler, Stalin, Putin, and the other dictators who arrest their adversaries.
All they have is talking points. “No one is above the law” is an all-time favorite of theirs, even when they don’t know the actual law.

You’re debating with people like this (and winning):
 
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Because she wasn't guilty of anything....is it only a political operation depending on the result?

You're obvious avoidance anything that highlights your hypocrisy on these matters is comical


Bragg = bad for running on a message of indicting trump
trump = good for running on a message of indicting Hillary Clinton

You'll fit right in here with malone, navi & nail 🤣
You cant see the difference between bringing flimsy charges against a former president once you're in power and threatening to bring charges against your opponent in the midst of a debate? We're talking about the AG of New York running on convicting a political opponent before he is office to head any sort of criminal investigation. Trump never even had the power to indict Hillary, even if he wanted to and threatened to 🤣

You're equating a threat with an actual indictment. Crazy.
 
People that work for him said that was in his calculation.

At the same time, you guys don't want to believe it. So I won't waste my time with that. Just keep believing in Santa.

Unnamed sources I'm guessing?

Kalim, EVERYONE knew that he was running again in 2024.

NO ONE believed that he wouldn't run in 2024.

To espouse this BS that he's running to avoid prosecution on bullsh1t charges is stupid and beneath you. This is a dead-end debate for you...it's illogical and doesn't pass the smell test even for the libbiest of libs.
 
One way around that would be to build such a lead as to make it impossible for the opposition to steal the election from you.
I think that’s what happened in 2020. I think the overnight stoppages happened because Trump voters way outperformed expectations.

They had a plan B and it needed to be executed when no observers were present. It took Biden to an unbelievable 81MM votes and created statistical data that was irrefutable.

It also proved that once an election is called no one has the balls to unring that bell.
 
Man there ain’t nobody targeting him that’s just a weak excuse, heck I’ve asked 50 times, what will be the excuses when other indictments land on his head? You think anyone would feel sorry for you if the shoe was on your foot? Heck no, and what’s even worse he goes on camera last nite to do what??? Play the victim
1) * isn't anybody (it's incorrect to use two negatives in the same sentence, with few exceptions
2) The saying goes "the shoe is on the other foot" - you don't typically apply a possessive pronoun when using this saying.

Are you ESL by chance?
 
Only when the owner of said testicles is still alive. In addition to being gross, necrophilia is illegal.


Wish I had bought some of that when it came out.

The important thing is that you recognize BSC's point....he's fancy and does fancy ish. I bet he drank his rare bourbon while sitting in his Porsche or on his yacht after one of his many, many vacations while resting in his second or third home.

😂...he lectured me on a soft brag once. 😂🤣😂
 
Man what gets me as a married man with kids, these idiots making excuses for a fat turd who cheated on his wife with a porn star lol, I’m like damn, what an upstanding guy he is now I tell ya

Rich people and politicians cheating on their wives?

What's next, right?
 
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I think that’s what happened in 2020. I think the overnight stoppages happened because Trump voters way outperformed expectations.

They had a plan B and it needed to be executed when no observers were present. It took Biden to an unbelievable 81MM votes and created statistical data that was irrefutable.

It also proved that once an election is called no one has the balls to unring that bell.

I believe that there's at LEAST some truth to this. However, you can make their efforts even more difficult, more absurd, by simply allowing more from the middle to support you.

He sucked with white women, especially educated white women. Calling that horsefaced hoe a horseface probably didn't help with that vote. Playing to their sympathies over these liberal tactics would have.
 
Do you know what intent is? If he intended to break a federal law, what federal law was it exactly that he intended to break? And how does payment as part of an otherwise valid NDA indicate intent to break that law? You, the hosts of MSNBC, and the city of Manhattan are literally the only people in America who are trying to pretend you're just upholding the rule of law in New York and this has nothing to do with politics. I'd respect you so much more if you'd just admit that you're in favor of arresting your political opponents because you don't like them. At least then we could have an honest conversation about what is going on here.



There you go again, when democrats lose states its because republicans are suppressing voters. When democrats win states its democracy operating as God intended. That is what's comical. The beauty of your position is that you can never be proven wrong!

As it turns out, I'm not even a "Trumper". I just so happen to not be a fan of targeting and arresting my political opponents. No matter how many MSNBC Youtube clips you post in this forum, you won't change the fact that this is politically motivated and tyrannical. Everything you project on the GOP, your party is guilty of doing as we speak.

Ghost, fatman....this is the kind of voter that's within reach if Trump plays this right.
 
Ghost, fatman....this is the kind of voter that's within reach if Trump plays this right.
Don't get me wrong, I'm voting for Trump when he inevitably wins the primary against Desantis next spring, just like I've voted for him in the other 2 presidential elections I've been eligible to vote in.

I just personally prefer the guy who's represented my state and would like to see him be the nominee.
 
Getting persecuted because of your politics isn't playing the victim. Having a bullseye on your back because of your politics is the problem.

Having "a big fat bullseye" on your back is not the same thing as committing a crime and its not the basis for charging someone with a crime.
You guys are too funny lol
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm voting for Trump when he inevitably wins the primary against Desantis next spring, just like I've voted for him in the other 2 presidential elections I've been eligible to vote in.

I just personally prefer the guy who's represented my state and would like to see him be the nominee.
I have ZERO problems with this thinking. You prefer someone else! Good on you. I will do the opposite. If Ron wins...he will have my support. I know this from my past voting history...I have NEVER EVER voted for a commie dimwit
 
Don't get me wrong, I'm voting for Trump when he inevitably wins the primary against Desantis next spring, just like I've voted for him in the other 2 presidential elections I've been eligible to vote in.

I just personally prefer the guy who's represented my state and would like to see him be the nominee.

Same.
 
Perhaps...but people used to say that about Bragg's case as well.

And as we can all see, his case is dogshit.
Bama it’s all becoming comical at this point, did you listen to his speech from Mar-a- lago? Man what a clown just saying the same old garbage, unapologetic even to his wife and damn family, I’d kick his ass myself if I could get close enough to him
 
You cant see the difference between bringing flimsy charges against a former president once you're in power and threatening to bring charges against your opponent in the midst of a debate? We're talking about the AG of New York running on convicting a political opponent before he is office to head any sort of criminal investigation. Trump never even had the power to indict Hillary, even if he wanted to and threatened to 🤣

You're equating a threat with an actual indictment. Crazy.

You should read more...



https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...uld-prosecute-comey-and-clinton-himself-book/
Trump thought he could prosecute Comey and Clinton himself: book
BY ZACH SCHONFELD - 09/21/22 1:08 PM ET



https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/20/us/politics/president-trump-justice-department.html
Trump Wanted to Order Justice Dept. to Prosecute Comey and Clinton
By Michael S. Schmidt and Maggie Haberman
  • Nov. 20, 2018
  • 6 MIN READ
WASHINGTON — President Trump told the White House counsel in the spring that he wanted to order the Justice Department to prosecute two of his political adversaries: his 2016 challenger, Hillary Clinton, and the former F.B.I. director James B. Comey, according to two people familiar with the conversation.

The lawyer, Donald F. McGahn II, rebuffed the president, saying that he had no authority to order a prosecution. Mr. McGahn said that while he could request an investigation, that too could prompt accusations of abuse of power. To underscore his point, Mr. McGahn had White House lawyers write a memo for Mr. Trump warning that if he asked law enforcement to investigate his rivals, he could face a range of consequences, including possible impeachment.

The encounter was one of the most blatant examples yet of how Mr. Trump views the typically independent Justice Department as a tool to be wielded against his political enemies.

It is unclear whether Mr. Trump read Mr. McGahn’s memo or whether he pursued the prosecutions further. But the president has continued to privately discuss the matter, including the possible appointment of a second special counsel to investigate both Mrs. Clinton and Mr. Comey, according to two people who have spoken to Mr. Trump about the issue. He has also repeatedly expressed disappointment in the F.B.I. director, Christopher A. Wray, for failing to more aggressively investigate Mrs. Clinton, calling him weak, one of the people said.
 
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Whats the assumption here? That Trump is being targeted politically? I disagree. The WSJ lays out what's going on more succinctly than I can:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/alvin-...4-election-da-charges-stormy-daniels-f5c1b6e1

As to the rest of your post about other indictments, Trump has only been charged with one crime. I'm not going to speculate on whether I think future crimes of which he has yet to be indicted for are politically motivated or not. The only thing we know right now is that the one crime he has been indicted for thus far is a politically motivated farce.

If he is indicted on other crimes, once I read the indictments, then I'll make a judgment on those charges. Based on the precedent set by Bragg yesterday, they don't have any actual crimes and their motivations for investigating Trump are solely for political purposes. If Fulton County or DC or any other investigations appear otherwise, then I'll change my tune. I have my doubts, though.
Bragg listed invoices, checks cashed, and ledger entries as his official indictment without providing context. As being an accountant myself, what kind of nonsense is that? It seems as though anyone can get a Harvard Law degree these days, as long as the right boxes are checked.
 
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Bama it’s all becoming comical at this point, did you listen to his speech from Mar-a- lago? Man what a clown just saying the same old garbage, unapologetic even to his wife and damn family, I’d kick his ass myself if I could get close enough to him
better be careful...would not look good getting your *** whipped by a mid 70's year old man!
 
True, but some will at the same time see him constantly on TV heading to a courtroom, and constantly hear MSNBC saying he's a criminal, and they will believe it.

My guess is the indies he picks up will likely cancel out with the ones he loses.

I don't think so.

Some people would rather die in a fire than vote for Trump. But there are some swing people who can see just how ridiculous this is and they will swing Trump's way if he plays it right.
 
I wish he would. There's political capital to be had if he will.
He does everyday, I’m done, it’s stupid be on here arguing with a buncha grown dudes pining and whining over a piece filth, I’m a let you guys play hoochie coochie together
 
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