No, he'll claim he's in complete dementia to prove he wasn't of sound mind.
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No, he'll claim he's in complete dementia to prove he wasn't of sound mind.
When you were molested in the cub scouts that was tragic but it wasn't serving our country.You were spat on when you returned from Vietnam? Naw, I call BS.
(1.) Does this "act" amend our Constitution? (2.) Where is the provision for the selective enforcement of this "act" i.e. where is the provision that this 'act" is to be enforced only against Republicans and not Democrats. This is a prime example of the Democrats principle of "rules for thee but not for me".Back to the actual thread topic...
Let's play a game and see how many sections of the presidential records act trump has violated, broken, or is threatening to violate...
Since that was the basis for the post
https://www.archives.gov/presidential-libraries/laws/1978-act.html
Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978
The Presidential Records Act (PRA) of 1978, 44 U.S.C. ß2201-2209, governs the official records of Presidents and Vice Presidents that were created or received after January 20, 1981 (i.e., beginning with the Reagan Administration). The PRA changed the legal ownership of the official records of the President from private to public, and established a new statutory structure under which Presidents, and subsequently NARA, must manage the records of their Administrations. The PRA was amended in 2014, which established several new provisions.
Specifically, the PRA:
- Establishes public ownership of all Presidential records and defines the term Presidential records.
- Requires that Vice-Presidential records be treated in the same way as Presidential records.
- Places the responsibility for the custody and management of incumbent Presidential records with the President.
- Requires that the President and his staff take all practical steps to file personal records separately from Presidential records.
- Allows the incumbent President to dispose of records that no longer have administrative, historical, informational, or evidentiary value, once the views of the Archivist of the United States on the proposed disposal have been obtained in writing.
- Establishes in law that any incumbent Presidential records (whether textual or electronic) held on courtesy storage by the Archivist remain in the exclusive legal custody of the President and that any request or order for access to such records must be made to the President, not NARA.
- Establishes that Presidential records automatically transfer into the legal custody of the Archivist as soon as the President leaves office.
- Establishes a process by which the President may restrict and the public may obtain access to these records after the President leaves office; specifically, the PRA allows for public access to Presidential records through the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) beginning five years after the end of the Administration, but allows the President to invoke as many as six specific restrictions to public access for up to twelve years.
- Codifies the process by which former and incumbent Presidents conduct reviews for executive privilege prior to public release of records by NARA (which had formerly been governed by Executive order 13489).
- Establishes procedures for Congress, courts, and subsequent Administrations to obtain “special access” to records from NARA that remain closed to the public, following a privilege review period by the former and incumbent Presidents; the procedures governing such special access requests continue to be governed by the relevant provisions of E.O. 13489.
- Establishes preservation requirements for official business conducted using non-official electronic messaging accounts: any individual creating Presidential records must not use non-official electronic messaging accounts unless that individual copies an official account as the message is created or forwards a complete copy of the record to an official messaging account. (A similar provision in the Federal Records Act applies to federal agencies.)
- Prevents an individual who has been convicted of a crime related to the review, retention, removal, or destruction of records from being given access to any original records.
Wow this illegal raid is really revealing the poltiical activists we have here, isn't it?(1.) Does this "act" amend our Constitution? (2.) Where is the provision for the selective enforcement of this "act" i.e. where is the provision that this 'act" is to be enforced only against Republicans and not Democrats. This is a prime example of the Democrats principle of "rules for thee but not for me".
They'll be back. Huffington Post and Salon just haven't issued them talking points yet. Lil Dickey will start 10 more threads tomorrow on it. 😂Wow this illegal raid is really revealing the poltiical activists we have here, isn't it?
Impossible for an honest person to defend this. That's why none of them are.
Hahaha. Fake preachers are hilarious.When you were molested in the cub scouts that was tragic but it wasn't serving our country.
Hell of a defense if I say so myself!No, he'll claim he's in complete dementia to prove he wasn't of sound mind.
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E=mc2. You're in good company. You can define all 7 components of critical thinking. Your ability to reason is high as is most of the board. The board's slow are clueless.I have no clue. And I have no pain with admitting that.
See how easy it is for a self-confident man, @BSC911?
I'd say that is WAY too generous. 😂E=mc2. You're in good company. You can define all 7 components of critical thinking. Your ability to reason is high as is most of the board. The board's slow are clueless.
LOL. Was that on your fake Mensa test?E=mc2. You're in good company. You can define all 7 components of critical thinking. Your ability to reason is high as is most of the board. The board's slow are clueless.
How about this one that you haven’t already looked up the answers to.
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Mensa IQ Challenge – Mensa International
This challenge involves trying to solve 35 puzzles within 25 minutes. The puzzles get progressively difficult as you move through the test.www.mensa.org
LOL. We know you won’t because, well, you are a fraud.
We’ll be waiting.
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LOL. Was that on your fake Mensa test?
Bumping this post. You can do it.
you wish 😎
(1.) Does this "act" amend our Constitution?
(2.) Where is the provision for the selective enforcement of this "act" i.e. where is the provision that this 'act" is to be enforced only against Republicans and not Democrats. This is a prime example of the Democrats principle of "rules for thee but not for me".
Doesn't the 4th amendment in the Bill of Rights guarantee us freedom from illegal search and seizure? Further, as I have heard, when president Obama left office, he took a bunch of documents that the documents folks want back but the FBI didn't raid his home because they were too busy plotting a coup to overthrow our duly elected president, Donald J. Trump. However, I have heard that Mr. Trump has forgiven them, so it is no big deal.No you dumb dumb its not an amendment...its a law
Go back and watch School House Rock like a million times
You need remedial help
Huh? Its a law that every POTUS since Nixon has been subject to...
Here....get to watching... 🤣
It would do you good to watch that, so you'd know executive orders can't do spending bills.No you dumb dumb its not an amendment...its a law
Go back and watch School House Rock like a million times
You need remedial help
Huh? Its a law that every POTUS since Nixon has been subject to...
Here....get to watching... 🤣
Doesn't the 4th amendment in the Bill of Rights guarantee us freedom from illegal search and seizure?
Further, as I have heard, when president Obama left office, he took a bunch of documents that the documents folks want back but the FBI didn't raid his home because they were too busy plotting a coup to overthrow our duly elected president, Donald J. Trump. However, I have heard that Mr. Trump has forgiven them, so it is no big deal.
In order to get a warrant to search and seize someone's property the FBI must present to the court serious evidence that a crime has been committed. So where is the crime and what is the evidence?No you dumb dumb its not an amendment...its a law
Go back and watch School House Rock like a million times
You need remedial help
Huh? Its a law that every POTUS since Nixon has been subject to...
Here....get to watching... 🤣
In order to get a warrant to search and seize someone's property the FBI must present to the court serious evidence that a crime has been committed. So where is the crime and what is the evidence?
I'm sorry I don't waste my time reading your evil Democrat "talking points" so I missed it where you proved that Obama doesn't get different special treatment. Once again you confirm the Democrat principal of "rules for thee but not for me".The search & seizure wasn't illegal. Judge signed off on... probable cause proven
You heard a lot of dumb shit that we've disproven over the last few weeks
The "document folks" 🤣 aka known as NARA (National Archive) released a letter two weeks ago pretty much destroying everything you think you heard about Obama
You need to update your bogus conspiracy theory database
I'm sorry I don't waste my time reading your evil Democrat "talking points" so I missed it where you proved that Obama doesn't get different special treatment. Once again you confirm the Democrat principal of "rules for thee but not for me".
In this epistle that you have pasted here I have not seen any evidence presented that former president Trump committed a crime.What have you been in a coma for the past few weeks?
You might be the only person in America that doesn't know.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/23/us/politics/trump-classified-documents-fbi-letter.html
Trump Kept More Than 700 Pages of Classified Documents, Letter From National Archives Says
The letter, which was sent to the former president’s lawyers, described the state of alarm in the Justice Department as officials began to realize the nature of the documents kept at Mar-a-Lago.
By Alan Feuer
Aug. 23, 2022Updated 2:29 p.m. ET
President Donald J. Trump took more than 700 pages of classified documents, including some related to the nation’s most covert intelligence operations, to his private club and residence in Florida when he left the White House in January 2021, according to a letter that the National Archives sent to his lawyers this year.
The letter, dated May 10 and written by the acting U.S. archivist, Debra Steidel Wall, to one of Mr. Trump’s lawyers, M. Evan Corcoran, described the state of alarm in the Justice Department as officials there began to realize how serious the documents were.
It also suggested that top department prosecutors and members of the intelligence community were delayed in conducting a damage assessment about the documents’ removal from the White House as Mr. Trump’s lawyers tried to argue that some of them might have been protected by executive privilege.
The letter was disclosed on Monday night by one of Mr. Trump’s allies in the news media, John Solomon, who also serves as one of the former president’s representatives to the archives. The archives then released the letter on Tuesday.
It was made public shortly after Mr. Trump’s lawyers filed a legal motion on Monday asking a federal judge in Florida to appoint an independent arbiter, known as a special master, to weed out any documents protected by executive privilege from a trove that was removed during an F.B.I. search of Mar-a-Lago on Aug. 8.
The motion, filed in Federal District Court in Southern Florida, came as a different federal judge was deciding how much — if any — of the underlying affidavit used to justify the search warrant should be publicly released.
Mr. Solomon, appearing on Tuesday on a podcast run by Stephen K. Bannon, Mr. Trump’s former White House aide, tried to suggest that Ms. Wall’s letter somehow implicated President Biden in the struggle over the classified documents. At one point in the letter, Ms. Wall told Mr. Corcoran that Mr. Biden had agreed with her and others that Mr. Trump’s attempts to assert executive privilege over the materials were baseless.
But the letter never indicated that Mr. Biden was in charge of the decision rejecting Mr. Trump’s claims of privilege or that he had anything to do with the search of Mar-a-Lago, as Mr. Solomon suggested.
In fact, the letter could further implicate Mr. Trump in a potential crime. It confirmed, for instance, that the former president had kept at Mar-a-Lago documents related to Special Access Programs, some of the nation’s most closely held secrets, before the F.B.I. searched the property. The search was part of an inquiry into whether the former president had willfully retained highly sensitive national defense papers and obstructed a federal investigation.
The letter also deepened understanding of the back-and-forth between the archives and Mr. Trump’s lawyers over how to handle retrieving the papers.
It described how archives officials had “ongoing communications” with Mr. Trump’s representatives last year about presidential records that were missing from their files. Those communications, Ms. Wall wrote, resulted in the archives retrieving 15 boxes of materials in January, some of them containing highly classified information marked top secret and others that were related to Special Access Programs.
But even after the archives retrieved the records, the letter said, Mr. Trump’s lawyers, in consultation with the White House Counsel’s Office, asked for time to determine whether — and how many of — the documents were protected by executive privilege, leading to negotiations that delayed the F.B.I., the Justice Department and the intelligence community from assessing the materials.
Those negotiations continued through April, even as Ms. Wall alerted Mr. Trump’s lawyers about the “urgency” of the agencies’ request to see the documents, which touched on “important national security interests,” the letter said. Ms. Wall ultimately rejected Mr. Trump’s claims of executive privilege after consulting with a top Justice Department official — a decision that Mr. Biden deferred to. As Ms. Wall wrote to Mr. Corcoran, before alerting him in May that the archives would soon hand the documents to the F.B.I., “The question in this case is not a close one.”
“The executive branch here is seeking access to records belonging to, and in the custody of, the federal government itself,” Ms. Wall wrote, “not only in order to investigate whether those records were handled in an unlawful manner but also, as the national security division explained, to ‘conduct an assessment of the potential damage resulting from the apparent manner in which these materials were stored and transported.”
Mr. Solomon’s decision to release the letter did more than confirm that Mr. Trump had kept some of the country’s most highly guarded secrets in his relatively unsecured beachfront club in Florida. It also revealed that well before Mr. Trump’s lawyers argued in their court filing on Monday that many of the records were protected by executive privilege, the same argument had been rejected by the White House and a top official at the Justice Department.
The court filing also appeared at times to make arguments that could ultimately harm Mr. Trump.
One long section of the motion, “President Donald J. Trump’s Voluntary Assistance,” was devoted to portraying him as having fully cooperated with the archives and the Justice Department from the outset. But read in a slightly different manner, the facts laid out in the section could be construed as evidence that Mr. Trump had instead obstructed the investigation into the documents.
The section noted how he willingly returned the first batch of 15 boxes to the archives, then — one day after Ms. Wall’s letter was sent to Mr. Corcoran — “accepted service of a grand jury subpoena” seeking to reclaim more documents with “classification markings.”
It also described how even after a top national security prosecutor went to Mar-a-Lago to retrieve the papers sought by the subpoena, the Justice Department felt compelled to issue a second subpoena. That was for surveillance camera footage at the property, suggesting that prosecutors were concerned that Mr. Trump and his lawyers had not been entirely forthcoming.
In this epistle that you have pasted here I have not seen any evidence presented that former president Trump committed a crime.
You are an idiot. The Democrat biased judge has not even released any proof of a possible crime and you are already accepting that it is proven.
The possible crimes that they are suspecting that were broken are a joke. Only a fool such as you would take them seriously. i
Why doesn't he then present the evidence? Be transparent, the "slow", such as you, may even agree with him.To quote the judge...he found probable cause for MULTIPLE FELONIES occurring at Mar-A-Lago
Why doesn't he then present the evidence? Be transparent, the "slow", such as you, may even agree with him.
These charges are why I referred to this sad saga in our history as a joke. You are missing the boat this whole raid is a ruse to go on a fishing expedition at Trumps' home to find some other evidence or more likely to plant some incriminating evidence. Being as knowledgeable as you are, you realize that the FBI has falsified documents to get a FISA warrant on Trump before.Stealing government property & espionage aren't crimes to you?
Rayray , this is a little off topic, but have you ever listened to Jason Whitlock or Candace Owens when they speak? Whenever I hear them they never fail to restore my faith and hope for this great country of ours. You should listen to them also, perhaps they might help you too.In America we usually have a thing called a trial to present evidence
You're an idiot !!! 🤣
I think you posted in the wrong thread. Did you mean to post here?🤣 Yeah I know more about Jason Whitlock & Candace Owens than I care to but yes I listened to both of them
Neither of those two sellout clowns could ever do anything to help me
But thanks for the tip
Next time when I ask for help in choosing black leaders I should follow
I'll give you a call
Otherwise if I don't ask I would say STFU because you don't know the first thing about the issues the black community cares about
Until then spend your time telling Asians, Latinos, Jews, and every other minority group who they should listen to....
No you don’t, stop playing toughi tear everyone appart. country is full of crooks and the sheep they rob.
Racists🤣 Yeah I know more about Jason Whitlock & Candace Owens than I care to but yes I listened to both of them
Neither of those two sellout clowns could ever do anything to help me
But thanks for the tip
Next time when I ask for help in choosing black leaders I should follow
I'll give you a call
Otherwise if I don't ask I would say STFU because you don't know the first thing about the issues the black community cares about
Until then spend your time telling Asians, Latinos, Jews, and every other minority group who they should listen to....
Molesting kids 🤷🏼♂️Nothing happened.
That's what you got out of that article? 🤣
What exactly would Biden be going to jail for?
Mocking the fake Mensa guy shows that I’m pissed off?
If true, I guess I piss off every poster OTB, especially you.
You conjure the man up all the time and then you whine about Mensa this, test that. It clearly pisses you off...but whatevs.
Wait, you are criticizing me for “Mensa this, test that” when I’m merely responding to his constant fake Mensa test claims?You conjure the man up all the time and then you whine about Mensa this, test that. It clearly pisses you off...but whatevs.
Ouch. That one left a mark.🤣 Yeah I know more about Jason Whitlock & Candace Owens than I care to but yes I listened to both of them
Neither of those two sellout clowns could ever do anything to help me
But thanks for the tip
Next time when I ask for help in choosing black leaders I should follow
I'll give you a call
Otherwise if I don't ask I would say STFU because you don't know the first thing about the issues the black community cares about
Until then spend your time telling Asians, Latinos, Jews, and every other minority group who they should listen to....
Man, you’ve really bought into this whole Right Wing propaganda. Here’s a suggestion, turn off Hannity, or OAN or whatever news source you are getting your information from and try some more diverse sources. Then you won’t sound as ignorant as you appear to be.These charges are why I referred to this sad saga in our history as a joke. You are missing the boat this whole raid is a ruse to go on a fishing expedition at Trumps' home to find some other evidence or more likely to plant some incriminating evidence. Being as knowledgeable as you are, you realize that the FBI has falsified documents to get a FISA warrant on Trump before.
Conjure him up?