What Jesus was talking about in "debt" forgiveness, he was concerned about the "wages" of sin. This sin comes in many forms, but I don't think that Jesus gives a sh_t about student loan debt. Growing up my folks were poor. I could not have made it through college without some grants and a lot of loans, although the U of F loan office told me I had to make the first year on my own. I gladly paid my loans back many years ago. I think everybody else should do the same.Acting in a "racial manner" means what exactly? You mean mention race?
You can look to Candace Owens (political operator) and Jason Whitlock (sports writer) for black leaders who inspire you through the Holy Spirit...though I've never heard either them talk about the bible or the Holy Spirit
Black people tend to look to church leaders for that sort of thing...not secular TV personalities
Rev Raphael Warnock is a good example
But I was going to introduce you another real black leader and as luck would have it he just wrote a new opinion piece about the student debt issue
Let me just say he ain't no Candace Owens or Jason Whitlock
God must have been listening 🙏
The Rev William Barber II - Founder of the multiracial "Poor People's Campaign"
https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-opposing-student-loan-relief-155051754.html
Republicans Opposing Student-Loan Relief Are Forgetting the Biblical Tradition of Debt Forgiveness
William J. Barber II
Thu, August 25, 2022 at 11:50 AM·5 min read
While President Biden’s announcement of student-debt forgiveness elicited shouts of joy from many of the 43 million Americans who could experience relief under his plan, Republicans have responded by declaring their opposition to the very idea of debt forgiveness. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell accused Biden of “socialism,” while Pennsylvania Representative Dan Meuser declared it a “moral hazard” to forgive “self imposed debt.” For decades, Republicans have claimed to champion biblical values, and MAGA enthusiasts like Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene have more recently embraced the goal of a “Christian nation.” But nothing exposes the hypocrisy of Christian nationalism more than Republicans’ knee-jerk reaction against debt forgiveness. It is, after all, something Jesus taught his disciples to pray for.
“Forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors,” is more than a line from the Lord’s Prayer that children memorize in Sunday school. For practicing Christians, it is a regular reminder of the Jubilee tradition that Jesus embraced in his first sermon in Luke’s gospel. “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me,” Jesus declared from the prophet Isaiah, “and has anointed me to proclaim… the favorable year of the Lord.” As his 1st-century hearers knew, Jesus was referring to the debt forgiveness laid out in Leviticus 25, which prescribes a regular social practice of clearing debts in order to correct for the accumulated injustice of an unequal distribution of resources in society. The idea doesn’t come from Karl Marx, as McConnell suggests, but from ancient Scripture.
It’s amazing to us that many of the same people who consistently vote for corporate tax breaks and policies that give more money to our wealthiest neighbors cry “socialism” when anyone proposes relief to poor people who are saddled by debt. As people who took vows to proclaim the biblical text, we find such reactionary defense of wealth to be the antithesis of biblical values.
While the Jubilee is a clear command of Scripture, biblical scholars have debated how often it was actually practiced in ancient Israel. But the economic historian Michael Hudson, who has directed a decades-long study at Harvard’s Peabody Museum, argues in his book …and forgive them their debtsthat the notion of Jubilee wasn’t simply an ideal for ancient Israel, but rather a practical lesson learned during the Babylonian exile. Ancient Mesopotamian societies had learned from experience that crippling debt was an inevitable consequence of lending at interest (what the Bible calls “usury”). For the good of the whole, a practice of “Clean Slate” debt forgiveness emerged to keep society functioning. The children of Israel came to understand this practice as God’s design.
Of course, people of goodwill can disagree on policy. While some conservatives have expressed concern that Biden’s debt-forgiveness plan could exacerbate inflation, we side with those who argue that the Administration should do more, along with Congressional action, to address extreme inequality and the racial wealth gap in America. By forgiving twice as much for borrowers who qualified for Pell Grants as undergraduates, Biden’s plan does target relief to low-income families, which are disproportionately Black, brown, Asian, and Native. Equally important to the plan is its hedge against interest going forward. For borrowers who pay 5% of their expendable income toward repaying the undergraduate loans each month, interest will be forgiven. And low-income debtors who make less than 225% of the federal poverty line will not owe any payments until their income rises to a living wage. These, too, are steps toward an economy where people who go to work every day can afford to feed, clothe, and house their families, and even take a little time off now and then to enjoy time with one another.
But it’s not enough. The $20,000 cap for Pell Grant recipients, for instance, leaves millions of those most severely impacted by predatory lending still saddled with debt. To experience the full benefit of Jubilee, we need to wipe the slate clean for those who are carrying the heaviest burdens of debt.
As Christian pastors, we know that the false promise of a “Christian nation” has persuaded millions of Americans to support policies that hurt God’s people. In a multi-faith democracy, we don’t need our faith to be privileged by state power. But every faith can and should inform our vision for our common life. The tradition of debt forgiveness, which is shared by Christians, Jews, and Muslims alike, offers a powerful vision for a way forward from the historic inequality that currently harms our economy. It’s no surprise that defenders of the wealthy elite are crying “socialism.” Their forebearers attacked New Deal and Great Society programs along the same lines. But moral movements throughout our nation’s history have made the case that moral policies that lift from the bottom are good for all of us.
Biden’s student-loan forgiveness plan won’t bring the Jubilee we pray for every day, but it’s a step in the right direction. Some of us would love to hear the President and other Democrats talk more about how policies like this help poor and low-income people, not just the “working class.” Such public commitments to the common good can go a long way toward motivating voters who don’t believe politicians from any party care about them. If a moral movement of people committed to the common good can rally for the midterms, this week’s action shows that the Biden Administration is ready and willing to push further toward an economy that works for all of us in 2023. That’s a vision we pray more Americans can get behind.
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Burgess or Candace? Earlier you were speaking of Candace.
Burgess played for the Jets & is now a politician... mixing sports, religion & politics
And what are you talking about poor people paying for college loans of wealthy people?
The people with the college loans are some of the poor people you're talking about
Just because you took a college loan doesn't mean you graduated let alone got a high paying job. Those borrowers are paying on loans and are taxpayers too.
Taxpayers shouldn't have the ability to direct how government prioritizes expenditures with their money?
Then you really don't understand how the development of the higher education loan market pre-80s versus today.
I'll let Rev Barber know that you know theology better than him
Or maybe we should send Jason Whitlock or one of the Burgesses...
Candace or Burgess to explain it to him... 🤣
This doesn't have much to do with (gator) sports,,, but anyway I'll participate one more time. I can't believe anyone would think the demon Democrats are proposing to forgive college loans because they care about poor people. It is obvious to everyone that the Dems are trying to buy the votes of young college students. Why waste our time with the rest of your propaganda?
Reducing debt by 10k helps government-owned loan providers.
It doesn't help the borrowers. If the goal was to help the borrowers, then INTEREST RATES would be lowered. That would make a massive difference to ALL borrowers.
Neither side has even mentioned interest rates. That tells you this is all about getting votes. Both sides use the actions of the other to appeal to their voters.
Taxpayers, borrowers and voters ALL get the shaft cause we are too stupid to catch on to the Good Cop/Bad Cop routine.
Please be assured that I do not know more about Theology than Rev Barber, but I still don't believe that Jesus gives a sh_t about who pays for the college loan debts. I would bet though that Jesus thinks that the person who made the loan should be the one to pay the loan.
Hey @RayGravesGhost, until you condemn pedophilia, let's step away from trying to lecture anyone one what Jesus said, cause you clearly need to do less talking about more reading.
What has the republican party done for poor people?
Was the trump tax cut "buying the votes" of wealthy people?
Was trump subsidizing the agricultural industry "buying the votes" of rural America?
So Jesus doesn't give a sh.t and has an opinion about student loans?
Make up your mind
In the meantime, I think you replace Jesus's teachings with your own political opinion
https://www.crosswalk.com/family/finances/8-ways-jesus-warns-about-debt.html
8 Ways the Bible and Jesus Warn about Debt
Since you left school higher education has become a debt trap
When did you leave school?
Focus on the % increase and the owed balance in 2016 dollars
What would your loan balance have been in 2016 dollars?
That's why the dynamic is completely different now
The liberal darling Rob Reiner(meat head) gets owned by another libtard.
Meat head got clowned for getting his talking points from MSNBC. Sound familiar?
Meat head got clowned for getting his talking points from MSNBC. Sound familiar?
trumpanzees know citing Bill Maher...you just can't make this chit up man 🤣
Since you like Bill Maher so much...
Since you like Bill Maher so much...
Is this all you can come up with along with more pointless threads you create that you've already discussed in your other threads? Keep getting desperate for attention.
HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA
I own you on this thread concerning Bill Maher then you start a another Bill Maher thread. It's funny how I'm living rent free in your head, Mr Thin Skin.
The very rare funny liberal meme. Of course it also could have been a non-lib practicing self-deprecating humor...and that feels more likely TBH.
Typical Lil Dickey/BScuck interviews in the street. 😂 Damn these idiots are dumber than dirt. 
A. Thread subjects change after 5-10 posts. At the top of this page we meandered into student loan relief. 😂
II. I had no idea who you were responding to.
You can do better than donut jokes. Besides, that's not a good look for a guy pretending to GAF about law and order in one post and then ridiculing the law enforcement profession in the next. Pick a strategy genius.
The problem with many of our Universities is that they are being run by and administered by liberal, progressive Democrats. Our Federal Government has the same problem.Since you left school higher education has become a debt trap
When did you leave school?
Focus on the % increase and the owed balance in 2016 dollars
What would your loan balance have been in 2016 dollars?
That's why the dynamic is completely different now
Jesus taught his disciples to "render unto Ceasar what is Ceasars'".
Same problem with all of those well run republican states?
Mississippi can't even provide its citizens water
Texas can't provide their citizens electricity
Florida can't even supply its citizens qualified teachers
https://www.yahoo.com/news/leader-latinos-trump-says-former-085542052.html
The leader of Latinos for Trump says the former president has been getting into so much trouble because he 'offended the Lord'
Cheryl Teh
Mon, August 29, 2022 at 4:55 AM·3 min read
California (your libtard heroes) can't provide it's citizens water.
California said stop charging your EV's when it's not sunny or night, not enough electricity to go around.
Will we start sending CA welfare care packages?
There are qualified teachers in Florida. They all teach at schools such as Bolles and Trinity Christian in Jax. What's your excuse?
Don't send them to California...they pay for themselves
its all of the "taker" states run by republicans that can't provide for themselves
14 of the Top 20 Deadbeat States are republican...
https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/
Return on Statehood: How Much Value Every State Gets From the Federal Government
Last Updated: 2/10/2022
For the obtuse...DeSantis admits he doesn't have enough qualified teachers
What's your excuse?
My excuse? The teachers he's stuck with have your child groomer mentality. He's only asking for non woke and non pedo loving teachers.
