Thanksgiving coldest on record in the NEast

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I had to laugh at the warmists this morning, The Weather Channel had a 'heat' map for the United States, and it was showing the average temperatures for April for the entire country. Blue colors meant temps were below normal, red colors meant temps were above normal.

The entire country was LIGHT TO DARK BLUE except for a few spots in south Florida, and the northern third of the California coast and the Oregon coast.

95% of the country is seeing colder than normal temps, while warmists tell us the planet is having it's 5 hottest years ever.

Someone is lying.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

The Warmists told us 2014-2018 were the 5 hottest years in the planet's history. They weren't. Not close. The last few months the Warmists have quietened a bit on their fruitless claims.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

The Warmists told us 2014-2018 were the 5 hottest years in the planet's history. They weren't. Not close. The last few months the Warmists have quietened a bit on their fruitless claims.

They mean since they have been recording temps ... but the deception is that these hottest days are just a few tenths higher than temps in the 1930s and some of these records are within the margin of error...the 1-2 degrees increase over the last century has lead to no catastrophes and the possible 1 to 2 more in the next century will also not cause a catastrophe. I believe the global mean is in the low 70s. There is no CRISIS that requires any action to be taken.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

LOL well I was WAY off...going by local climate not global...from climate.gov

"In 2019, the average temperature across global land and ocean surfaces was 1.71°F (0.95°C) above the
twentieth-century average of 57.0°F (13.9°C), making it the second-warmest year on record."

Global mean was a chilly and I mean chilly 58.7 degrees F.

Average annual high temp in TN are in the low 70s. but you would have a hard time convincing anyone about that in July and August LOL when the AGW crisis is in full swing...the only crisis is the one that hits my wallet when the electric bill shows up.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Again, dinosaurs did not live in the arctic. Earth was 10-20% hotter then than it is now.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

My birthday 4-26 always sees AC on until October. Always. It's 4-30 with AC off and 57 F on my patio.

 

[BSC911]

My birthday 4-26 always sees AC on until October. Always. It's 4-30 with AC off and 57 F on my patio.

Are you sure, because it looks like the average low is in the 50s, so that seems normal. I know you wouldn’t intentionally distort facts, so I’ll help you out.

https://www.climatespy.com/climate/summary/united-states/texas/waco-rgnl/april

It’s also 50s in Houston but working up to the 90s this afternoon. Only a short respite.


PS. Happy birthday. Same day as my sister.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Are you sure, because it looks like the average low is in the 50s, so that seems normal. I know you wouldn’t intentionally distort facts, so I’ll help you out.

https://www.climatespy.com/climate/summary/united-states/texas/waco-rgnl/april

It’s also 50s in Houston but working up to the 90s this afternoon. Only a short respite.


PS. Happy birthday. Same day as my sister.

I'm noting the last 4 days of April. I turn my AC on on my birthday and forget it til Oct. Not this year. Oh, I could leave the AC on. I'll need it later today. But heating so late this year has been attention grabbing.

Your sister and I were Hemi babies, after the legendary Dodge and Plymouth 426 Hemi V-8. Unveiled at Daytona in 1964, the Hemi took 6 of the top seven spots at the Daytona 500, displeasing NASCAR.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I'm noting the last 4 days of April. I turn my AC on on my birthday and forget it til Oct. Not this year. Oh, I could leave the AC on. I'll need it later today. But heating so late this year has been attention grabbing.

Your sister and I were Hemi babies, after the legendary Dodge and Plymouth 426 Hemi V-8. Unveiled at Daytona in 1964, the Hemi took 6 of the top seven spots at the Daytona 500, displeasing NASCAR.

Heat running this morning on the last day of April.

Never ran the heat in May in my lifetime. Tomorrow could be one for the record books.

 

[BSC911]

I'm noting the last 4 days of April. I turn my AC on on my birthday and forget it til Oct. Not this year. Oh, I could leave the AC on. I'll need it later today. But heating so late this year has been attention grabbing.

Your sister and I were Hemi babies, after the legendary Dodge and Plymouth 426 Hemi V-8. Unveiled at Daytona in 1964, the Hemi took 6 of the top seven spots at the Daytona 500, displeasing NASCAR.

Again, according to that chart, upper 50s is the average low for late April in Waco. Enjoy it while it lasts.

 

[BSC911]

They mean since they have been recording temps ... but the deception is that these hottest days are just a few tenths higher than temps in the 1930s and some of these records are within the margin of error...the 1-2 degrees increase over the last century has lead to no catastrophes and the possible 1 to 2 more in the next century will also not cause a catastrophe. I believe the global mean is in the low 70s. There is no CRISIS that requires any action to be taken.

Scientists disagree. But by all means, you should rely on MB posters for your scientific information.

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2865/a-degree-of-concern-why-global-temperatures-matter/

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Heat running this morning on the last day of April.

Never ran the heat in May in my lifetime. Tomorrow could be one for the record books.

This has indeed been an unusual spring in the U. S. Some NASA scientists predict a Solar minimum in 2020. Some Russian and U. S. scientists believe we're cooling. You won't read about such in the NY Times or see it on the NBC Nightly News.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

Scientists disagree. But by all means, you should rely on MB posters for your scientific information.

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/2865/a-degree-of-concern-why-global-temperatures-matter/

Ah in the follow up post you will see that I quoted climate.gov...not a MB...now you don't know me well since I originated from another defunct board and actually ran 2 political boards myself. I THINK FOR MYSELF...I don't get my ideas from message board posters...I have a strong sense of right and wrong developed over my 50 years of life. It is informed by the founders/framers and the Judeo-Christian ethos I was raised with as a Southern Baptist or more importantly as a Christian who has had a personal relationship with Jesus who revealed Himself to me in a physical manner affecting my inner being (not visible or auditory.) I also come from a background that requires the use of logic on a daily basis. I have a computer science degree with a minor in electrical engineering. I have called out ghost and expressed my dislike of Trumps persona. I have said I believe the earth has warmed and that man has influenced it. I have also said it is NOT and will Not be a crisis at least in my lifetime and not my kids either. It is definitely nothing requiring new taxes or five year pla...uhm fascistic regulatory schemes, green new deals or some other collectivist wet dream Utopian machinations.

 

[BSC911]

This has indeed been an unusual spring in the U. S. Some NASA scientists predict a Solar minimum in 2020. Some Russian and U. S. scientists believe we're cooling. You won't read about such in the NY Times or see it on the NBC Nightly News.

Of course not. You have to go to the real experts like Lysander University or Whatsupwiththat.

 

[BSC911]

Ah in the follow up post you will see that I quoted climate.gov...not a MB...now you don't know me well since I originated from another defunct board and actually ran 2 political boards myself. I THINK FOR MYSELF...I don't get my ideas from message board posters...I have a strong sense of right and wrong developed over my 50 years of life. It is informed by the founders/framers and the Judeo-Christian ethos I was raised with as a Southern Baptist or more importantly as a Christian who has had a personal relationship with Jesus who revealed Himself to me in a physical manner affecting my inner being (not visible or auditory.) I also come from a background that requires the use of logic on a daily basis. I have a computer science degree with a minor in electrical engineering. I have called out ghost and expressed my dislike of Trumps persona. I have said I believe the earth has warmed and that man has influenced it. I have also said it is NOT and will Not be a crisis at least in my lifetime and not my kids either. It is definitely nothing requiring new taxes or five year pla...uhm fascistic regulatory schemes, green new deals or some other collectivist wet dream Utopian machinations.

OK, good. We have common ground. There is a reasonable Middle Ground between the hysteria of the GND and there being no negative impact of CC which some of the Deniers put forth here. I look forward to a reasonable discussion.

 

[instaGATOR]

I look forward to a reasonable discussion.

Excellent!

Now, was the last Ice Age caused by cow farts or was it human intervention?
Inquiring minds want to know....

 

[BSC911]

Excellent!

Now, was the last Ice Age caused by cow farts or was it human intervention?
Inquiring minds want to know....

Still waiting on your rebuttal about Trump vs Obama’s unemployment, GDP growth and stock market gains.

Cat got your tongue?

PS. Don’t care about the last Ice Age. I wasn’t around then. But congrats on the dumb argument.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Earth was likely 10-20% hotter when dinosaurs ruled the planet. Just common sense, which isn't so common among the warmists who need something to give their lives meaning.

BTW did any warmists disagree with this?

We know reptiles thrive in warmer climates.

We know reptiles ruled the earth when the dinosaurs were here.

We know dinosaurs were massive creatures.

We know most dinosaurs were plant-eaters. We also know they needed to consume a MASSIVE amount of plants every day to survive.

Plant life flourishes in warmer climates.

Just common sense and this simple list of facts tells any critical thinker that the earth was very likely a hothouse in the time of the dinosaurs, with glaciers likely being rare if there were any at all. Worldwide temperature would have been much higher than it currently is.

Yet....warmists claim the planet is currently on fire.

 

[instaGATOR]

Still waiting on your rebuttal about Trump vs Obama’s unemployment, GDP growth and stock market gains.

Cat got your tongue?

PS. Don’t care about the last Ice Age. I wasn’t around then. But congrats on the dumb argument.

I thought that you wanted to talk climate, but seemingly that was only another 'Fake-News' scam on your part. So again you attempt to distract by going back to your failed tactic of not answering any question that puts you firmly in the idiot group.
How about you tell me the employment and unemployment numbers for these groups:
Women
Blacks
Black Youth
Hyspanics
Asians
Just to show us how informed and unbiased you really are. (crickets)
=====
We will soon have a vote on which is-was better for the U.S. economy.
It will be a vote between the (free) Capitalists and the (slave) Socialists.

Most of us already know who (Trump or OBomba) was better/worse on government (swamp) corruption.

 

[BSC911]

I thought that you wanted to talk climate, but seemingly that was only another 'Fake-News' scam on your part. So again you attempt to distract by going back to your failed tactic of not answering any question that puts you firmly in the idiot group.
How about you tell me the employment and unemployment numbers for these groups:
Women
Blacks
Black Youth
Hyspanics
Asians
Just to show us how informed and unbiased you really are. (crickets)
=====
We will soon have a vote on which is-was better for the U.S. economy.
It will be a vote between the (free) Capitalists and the (slave) Socialists.

Most of us already know who (Trump or OBomba) was better/worse on government (swamp) corruption.

Employment in each of those categories grew during the Obama administration. Next question?

 

[instaGATOR]

Employment in each of those categories grew during the Obama administration. Next question?

More yap-yap-yap avoidance instead of real answers.

Here, let me help you out. Under Trump, every one of those groups went to historic levels.

And that happened while the O'Bomba crooks in the FBI and elsewhere were constantly attempting a coup against Trump, with the complete support of the Dim-Mor-Rats and their propaganda arm, the Fake News Lame-stream media excuse for a free press.

You get dumber by the minute, socialist loser...

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

Black American employment grew under 8 years of Lamumba, as did poverty and black on black crime. Black home ownership declined. U. S. Census Bureau and the Federal Bureau of Investigation tells me. The "smartest" woman in the world ran for Lamumba's third term and Africans showed very little enthusiasm.

 

[BSC911]

Black American employment grew under 8 years of Lamumba, as did poverty and black on black crime. Black home ownership declined. U. S. Census Bureau and the Federal Bureau of Investigation tells me. The "smartest" woman in the world ran for Lamumba's third term and Africans showed very little enthusiasm.

Oh now you're blaming crime on Obama. Sounds reasonable.

Why are you so obsessed with Hillary?

 

[BSC911]

More yap-yap-yap avoidance instead of real answers.

Here, let me help you out. Under Trump, every one of those groups went to historic levels.

And that happened while the O'Bomba crooks in the FBI and elsewhere were constantly attempting a coup against Trump, with the complete support of the Dim-Mor-Rats and their propaganda arm, the Fake News Lame-stream media excuse for a free press.

You get dumber by the minute, socialist loser...

Presenting facts is a sign of avoidance? Those groups also reached historical levels during Obama's administration. Trump started on third base.

And then he goes into the standard Fake News, etc. How predictable. Try thinking for yourself rather than just repeating everything Trump says.

 

[instaGATOR]

Presenting facts is a sign of avoidance? Those groups also reached historical levels during Obama's administration. Trump started on third base.

And then he goes into the standard Fake News, etc. How predictable. Try thinking for yourself rather than just repeating everything Trump says.

You're an idiot, and now you've exceeded my tolerance level for boring yap.

 

[BSC911]

You're an idiot, and now you've exceeded my tolerance level for boring yap.

I get it. You hate being proven wrong. Join the Ghost club.

 

[instaGATOR]

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[Sunburnt Indian]

Just finished reading Confessions of a Climate Scientist by Mototaka Nakamura abbreviated English version. I don't speak Japanese. Mr. Nakamura is MIT educated and has impeccable credentials. Apparently Japan has it's share of Warmists.

Mr. Nakamura says climate scientists use Mickey Mouse computer models to predict future temps that have no degree of accuracy. Water vapor is our most potent greenhouse gas and we have no way of controlling water vapor. Hair dryers?

Mr. Nakamura uses small words, making it possible for the simplest among us to understand. Good reading.

Some NASA scientists predict a revisit of the mild Dalton minimum soon, that saw the year without summer in 1815.

 

[nail1988]

Just finished reading Confessions of a Climate Scientist by Mototaka Nakamura abbreviated English version. I don't speak Japanese. Mr. Nakamura is MIT educated and has impeccable credentials. Apparently Japan has it's share of Warmists.

Mr. Nakamura says climate scientists use Mickey Mouse computer models to predict future temps that have no degree of accuracy. Water vapor is our most potent greenhouse gas and we have no way of controlling water vapor. Hair dryers?

Mr. Nakamura uses small words, making it possible for the simplest among us to understand. Good reading.

Some NASA scientists predict a revisit of the mild Dalton minimum soon, that saw the year without summer in 1815.

Sunny

Does Mr. Nakamura use Hockey stick models?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Water vapor is our most potent greenhouse gas and we have no way of controlling water vapor. Hair dryers?

So man can't change the climate after all? Warmists will be thrilled.

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

So man can't change the climate after all? Warmists will be thrilled.

Dr. Nakamura's book is a complete waste of time and resources. The Warmist religion will buckle down.

 

[BSC911]

Dr. Nakamura's book is a complete waste of time and resources. The Warmist religion will buckle down.

Question. Did you pick this book, which you can’t even read, after a thorough search of all available literature, or did you just look for something that confirms whatever Denier position that makes you feel good.?

critical thinkers what to know.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Dr. Nakamura's book is a complete waste of time and resources. The Warmist religion will buckle down.

Well I mean, that's why they are warmists. The science clearly refutes everything they believe, so facts are of no interest to them.

History made this morning: May 1st and the heat is running, woke up to temps in the high 40s. First time in my life the heat has run in May. Temps remain 10-15 cooler than normal.

 

[instaGATOR]

From the lower 40's a couple of days ago, to forecast of lower 93 by mid-week.
OMG, the climate is changing,,, yet again....

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

May 2nd, heat still running, although this might be the last day till next week.

All my life, this has been the weather pattern in the Spring:

March - Temps start in low 60s, end month in low 70s

April - Temps start in low 70s, end in high 70s or low 80s

May - Temps start in high 70s or low 80s, end in high 80s, low 90s


We were consistently 10-15 degrees cooler than the above throughout March and April. Next few days highs are forecast for low 80s, which is normal. But next week highs will dip into low 70s, and high 60s, which is back to 10-15 degrees below normal.

Have never understood how warmist science works: How can the planet be on fire while temps are also 10-15 degrees below normal? Are warmists still claiming that global warming doesn't happen across the globe? Because that always made me chuckle while shaking my head.

 

[BSC911]

From the lower 40's a couple of days ago, to forecast of lower 93 by mid-week.
OMG, the climate is changing,,, yet again....

You mean its warming.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

May 3rd, heat still on in the morning.

I saw a funny graphic about the warmist religion: "Imagine thinking the temperature of the planet could be changed, by giving money to the government".

 

[Sunburnt Indian]

May 3rd, heat still on in the morning.

I saw a funny graphic about the warmist religion: "Imagine thinking the temperature of the planet could be changed, by giving money to the government".

The late founder of the Weather Channel said Gorleone clung to a computer model a climate scientist who designed it himself recalled it. Some estimates say Gorleone profited $150 million with his ruse.

Gorleone never accepted an open invitation to public debate with the founder. Gorleone has never been guilty of practicing what he preaches.

 

[BSC911]

The late founder of the Weather Channel said Gorleone clung to a computer model a climate scientist who designed it himself recalled it. Some estimates say Gorleone profited $150 million with his ruse.

Gorleone never accepted an open invitation to public debate with the founder. Gorleone has never been guilty of practicing what he preaches.

One of the founders. You guys love to find these black swans and pretend they represent the majority. It doesn’t work on the educated.

You fought the good fight, but sorry, your side has lost. Best to just accept it and start installing those solar panels.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

The late founder of the Weather Channel said Gorleone clung to a computer model a climate scientist who designed it himself recalled it. Some estimates say Gorleone profited $150 million with his ruse.

Gorleone never accepted an open invitation to public debate with the founder. Gorleone has never been guilty of practicing what he preaches.

Didn't one of the co-founders of Greenpeace also admit that man-made climate change doesn't exist?

Ostracized as well. If you talk science and facts, the left shuts you out of the club.