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JIMBO1313

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I'll say again and will keep on saying it I choose to believe respected polls that show the Pres has a ways to go in most of the important states. Nail, no need to argue man, polls are run by people some with an agenda. In am waiting for election say for some accuracy. There is no animosity in my discussions with you, I respect where you are coming from.......jim
 

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I'll say again and will keep on saying it I choose to believe respected polls that show the Pres has a ways to go in most of the important states. Nail, no need to argue man, polls are run by people some with an agenda. In am waiting for election say for some accuracy. There is no animosity in my discussions with you, I respect where you are coming from.......jim
I guess the issue and the discussion point is what you consider to be "reputable." In 2016 all of these "reputable" polls got it wrong and the few that were laughed at before the 2016 election go it right and what we are seeing again this year is a damn near exact replay of 2016.

If they get it wrong again, it should be the end of the concept of "polling" in this nation.
 

JIMBO1313

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Jimbo, we agree on one thing. We both cant wait for this election to be over. Unfortunately I think the dems are going to try and drag it out.
My friend, it looks like you are thinking that Trump is going to make another miraculous recovery. I think Trump will try to drag it out now he has the loaded Supreme Court, But not Biden..........Just a few more days...........jim
 

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My friend, it looks like you are thinking that Trump is going to make another miraculous recovery. I think Trump will try to drag it out now he has the loaded Supreme Court, But not Biden..........Just a few more days...........jim
Trump didn't "load" the Supreme Court. The American people "loaded" it by electing Trump in 2016. It was the main reason he got elected actually.

At least you know the difference between "loading" and "packing," lol
 
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JIMBO1313

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I guess the issue and the discussion point is what you consider to be "reputable." In 2016 all of these "reputable" polls got it wrong and the few that were laughed at before the 2016 election go it right and what we are seeing again this year is a damn near exact replay of 2016.

If they get it wrong again, it should be the end of the concept of "polling" in this nation.
agree with your last sentence. Four years is a long time, and we are not dealing with a disliked Hillary. W/.O the virus I think Trump might pull it out. Hoping against hope that we don"t have 4 more years of Trump. Should he win, I hope he loses the Senate.........jim
 

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agree with your last sentence. Four years is a long time, and we are not dealing with a disliked Hillary. W/.O the virus I think Trump might pull it out. Hoping against hope that we don"t have 4 more years of Trump. Should he win, I hope he loses the Senate.........jim
Well I hope Biden wins that the Republicans win the Senate. It’s never good when one side has all the power. Especially not with what the Democrats plan
 

Sunburnt Indian

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I guess the issue and the discussion point is what you consider to be "reputable." In 2016 all of these "reputable" polls got it wrong and the few that were laughed at before the 2016 election go it right and what we are seeing again this year is a damn near exact replay of 2016.

If they get it wrong again, it should be the end of the concept of "polling" in this nation.
The closest polls in 2016 was Trafalgar and USC Daybreak. Both pick Trump for 2020.
 

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That will not happen. Count on it. Guess I know now that you are a Republican..........jim.
No. More libertarian. My dad was a blue dog Democrat. That probably actually describes me best but they don’t exist anymore. The current Democratic Party is so far left, 20 to 30% of it is basically socialism, I know too much about history to support that.

I vote for people, not parties. I cannot vote for a career politician with known Quid Pro Quo ties to China and Ukraine who wants to shut down our economy again who is likely mildly demented and is being controlled to a great degree by a far left group with a socialistic agenda

I'd rather have the Orange Narcissist because he will help my bottom line and because he is not a socialist.
 
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JIMBO1313

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No. More libertarian. My dad was a blue dog Democrat. That probably actually describes me best but they don’t exist anymore. The current Democratic Party is so far left, 20 to 30% of it is basically socialism, I know too much about history to support that.
Thanks for the explanation Idon't know about all that stuff........jim
 

Sunburnt Indian

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No. More libertarian. My dad was a blue dog Democrat. That probably actually describes me best but they don’t exist anymore. The current Democratic Party is so far left, 20 to 30% of it is basically socialism, I know too much about history to support that.

I vote for people, not parties. I cannot vote for a career politician with know Quid Pro Quo ties to China and Ukraine who wants to shut down our economy again who is likely mildly demented and is being controlled to a great degree by a far left group with a socialistic agenda

I'd rather have the Orange Narcissist because he will help my bottom line and because he is not a socialist.
An undeniable truth: Trump is not a plantation cracker. I'm voting Trump.
 
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Man I like the sound of that.

If the Republicans take all three that should send a very clear deafening message that the Democrats have to move back to the center.
They will claim Trump worked with Russia to cheat them. And that will be their justification for rolling out paid actors to riot in the streets.

What Trump needs to do is drop the hammer on them this time. He had to act 'presidential' cause it was an election year. But after Nov 3rd, take the brats over your knee and tan that ass.
 

JIMBO1313

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They will claim Trump worked with Russia to cheat them. And that will be their justification for rolling out paid actors to riot in the streets.

What Trump needs to do is drop the hammer on them this time. He had to act 'presidential' cause it was an election year. But after Nov 3rd, take the brats over your knee and tan that ass.
Trump does not know how to act Presidential. He is a thug and needs to be back in N.Y. cheating workers and filing for bankruptcy. Heck I'll shut up now before I say something I will be sorry for.
 
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BamaFan1137

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Man I like the sound of that.

If the Republicans take all three that should send a very clear deafening message that the Democrats have to move back to the center.
Agree. Like you, I don't love the idea of either party having a stranglehold on power but the left must move back towards the center. If that's the result of this election, and I'm certainly not saying it will be, that would be a huge win for EVERYONE.
 
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They will claim Trump worked with Russia to cheat them. And that will be their justification for rolling out paid actors to riot in the streets.

What Trump needs to do is drop the hammer on them this time. He had to act 'presidential' cause it was an election year. But after Nov 3rd, take the brats over your knee and tan that ass.
I honestly suspect he’s going to do that very thing. Been thinking that for the last six months. Once the election Is over it’s crack down!!
 

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I'll say again and will keep on saying it I choose to believe respected polls that show the Pres has a ways to go in most of the important states. Nail, no need to argue man, polls are run by people some with an agenda. In am waiting for election say for some accuracy. There is no animosity in my discussions with you, I respect where you are coming from.......jim
which are the “respected” polls? The ones that were proven accurate in past elections ?
 

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Agree. Like you, I don't love the idea of either party having a stranglehold on power but the left must move back towards the center. If that's the result of this election, and I'm certainly not saying it will be, that would be a huge win for EVERYONE.
I wish that was all we need is for the Democrats to move to the right. Freedom of the press is slipping away from us and if the Dems are elected I'm thinking it will be gone. Freedom of speech is going bye bye the same way. Their economic plans will impoverish middle class America. Attempting to raise taxes on the rich in the past this has always hurt the poor folks the most. Do the people of America realize that "Single Payer" Plan for healthcare means the government runs and rations our Healthcare. These are some of my concerns there are a lot more.
 
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NavigatorII

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My friend, it looks like you are thinking that Trump is going to make another miraculous recovery. I think Trump will try to drag it out now he has the loaded Supreme Court, But not Biden..........Just a few more days...........jim
WTF??? Trump did NOT load the SCOTUS. He simply filled a vacancy. Which is his responsibility. The Senate is owned by the GOP. They concurred. That's how this works.

"Loading" the SCOTUS is the left's idea of shitting the American bed. Don't confuse the two.
 

NavigatorII

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Trump does not know how to act Presidential. He is a thug and needs to be back in N.Y. cheating workers and filing for bankruptcy. Heck I'll shut up now before I say something I will be sorry for.
For decades, the Democrats have fought dirty, fostered unrest, approve of looting and are the party of violence. They are your "thugs" that you speak of. The GOP has always played too nice in the sand box. Then Trump came along, punched you in the face and kicked you in the nuts. And now you go home crying to mommy. Phuck you. Trump got in the ditch with you scumbags and punched you out. You can't handle it. You started this guerilla warfare both in the politics as well as in the media.. Face it, you got your asses handed to you. Wah! Wah! Go home to mommy! :p
 

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I wish that was all we need is for the Democrats to move to the right. Freedom of the press is slipping away from us and if the Dems are elected I'm thinking it will be gone. Freedom of speech is going bye bye the same way. Their economic plans will impoverish middle class America. Attempting to raise taxes on the rich in the past this has always hurt the poor folks the most. Do the people of America realize that "Single Payer" Plan for healthcare means the government runs and rations our Healthcare. These are some of my concerns there are a lot more.
Oh we have plenty of hurdles ahead of us....but how do you eat an elephant? To be honest, just stopping the slide to the left across the entire political spectrum would be a huge accomplishment.

The medium of the right today is almost exactly in the same spot as the 1980's left was when Carter got his ish pushed in by Reagan...and somehow they see our position as extreme. Stopping the slide to the left is the first step.
 

Sunburnt Indian

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For decades, the Democrats have fought dirty, fostered unrest, approve of looting and are the party of violence. They are your "thugs" that you speak of. The GOP has always played too nice in the sand box. Then Trump came along, punched you in the face and kicked you in the nuts. And now you go home crying to mommy. Phuck you. Trump got in the ditch with you scumbags and punched you out. You can't handle it. You started this guerilla warfare both in the politics as well as in the media.. Face it, you got your asses handed to you. Wah! Wah! Go home to mommy! :p
I wish I could find the Kalifornia Democrat city mayor who said, "the reason Trump is so hated is he fights back, just like a Democrat. Trump is no softie G. W."
 

gator1776

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I wish that was all we need is for the Democrats to move to the right. Freedom of the press is slipping away from us and if the Dems are elected I'm thinking it will be gone. Freedom of speech is going bye bye the same way. Their economic plans will impoverish middle class America. Attempting to raise taxes on the rich in the past this has always hurt the poor folks the most. Do the people of America realize that "Single Payer" Plan for healthcare means the government runs and rations our Healthcare. These are some of my concerns there are a lot more.
 
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WTF??? Trump did NOT load the SCOTUS. He simply filled a vacancy. Which is his responsibility. The Senate is owned by the GOP. They concurred. That's how this works.

"Loading" the SCOTUS is the left's idea of shitting the American bed. Don't confuse the two.
The left always changes the meanings of words and terms to fool the sheep. As we see here with JIMBO, it always works.

'Packing the court' = adding additional seats, not filling open ones.

The left tells us that abortion isn't killing babies, it's 'healthcare for the mother'.

The left tells us that rioting and looting is really 'peaceful protests'.


Critical thinkers always catch on. Sheep never do, that's why they will be voting for Hiden.
 

gator1776

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The left always changes the meanings of words and terms to fool the sheep. As we see here with JIMBO, it always works.

'Packing the court' = adding additional seats, not filling open ones.

The left tells us that abortion isn't killing babies, it's 'healthcare for the mother'.

The left tells us that rioting and looting is really 'peaceful protests'.


Critical thinkers always catch on. Sheep never do, that's why they will be voting for Hiden.
 

Sunburnt Indian

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I did considerable business in British Columbia and Ontario from 1991 to March, 2003. I don't want any part of Canada's RATIONED single pay Medicare for all health care system.

I've watched charter buses at U. S. Customs in Blaine, WA going south with Canadians paying for U. S. health care.

I've sat on the bus stop bench at Rich Foods in Buffalo and quizzed Canadians in the U. S. to pay for health care.

I have visited with U. S. Nationals in Windsor, Ont. filling prescriptions.

I loved the 25 year old Canadian who gleefully declared, "we have free health care." The 35 year old U. S. National brought heavier thunder. "You also have free national defense, thanks to the U. S. taxpayer."