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Purging the RINOs

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How do we effectively purge the RINOs that have not only taken over the party but also the followers? Not only on this board but things I’ve seen all over is the softness of the “Republican” party. At what point do we reset the party and realize this soft approach will not work and is enabling the Dims to gain power.

I’ve noticed on this board the RINOs seem to band together and think they represent the party. We can not and will not accomplish our goals with them clinging to the party moving forward.
 
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How do we effectively purge the RINOs that have not only taken over the party but also the followers? Not only on this board but things I’ve seen all over is the softness of the “Republican” party. At what point do we reset the party and realize this soft approach will not work and is enabling the Dims to gain power.

I’ve noticed on this board the RINOs seem to band together and think they represent the party. We can not and will not accomplish our goals with them clinging to the party moving forward.
And who are these RINOS you speak of on this board?
 
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Yeah that dude was a tool. I remember him generating an OP “This is what class looks like” with a photo of the Obama family. Even my mainstream conservatism was too much for him - apparently National Review and The Federalist were too extreme for him.

He announced he was quitting the board soon after and thankfully made good on his promise.
Weeks later he reinvented himself and we know him as BSC 😂😂😂
 
Yeah that dude was a tool. I remember him generating an OP “This is what class looks like” with a photo of the Obama family. Even my mainstream conservatism was too much for him - apparently National Review and The Federalist were too extreme for him.

He announced he was quitting the board soon after and thankfully made good on his promise.

I think I recall him from either the 2012 or 2016 election cycle.
 
The only RINO I can think of is BSC. But he's a liar. Claims to be conservative independent but is just a hair right of Chairman Jinpeng.
Yeah, I’m a socialist according to you guys.

Why are People always bothered when someone claims to be an independent. I guess you guys are such hyper partisans that it doesn’t seem possible.
 
Yeah, I’m a socialist according to you guys.

Why are People always bothered when someone claims to be an independent. I guess you guys are such hyper partisans that it doesn’t seem possible.

Well...you just don’t sound very independent. If you did, people probably wouldn't mind you calling yourself one so much.

@ukalum1988 is much more independent for example...and no one really minds.
 
Well...you just don’t sound very independent. If you did, people probably wouldn't mind you calling yourself one so much.

@ukalum1988 is much more independent for example...and no one really minds.

I’ll bet he hasn’t voted for a Dem in over a decade.

Being independent is really just a voting designation. There are plenty of Pubs that I have liked and voted for. You guys constantly confuse not liking Trump to being a far left socialist. It’s an odd characterization. Trump is no conservative.
 
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I’ll bet he hasn’t voted for a Dem in over a decade.

Being independent is really just a voting designation. There are plenty of Pubs that I have liked and voted for. You guys constantly confuse not liking Trump to being a far left socialist. It’s an odd characterization. Trump is no conservative.
Why does this have to be a Trump thing? We bring anything up and you fall back to calling us Trumpers. The man is out of office, he can’t hurt your feelings anymore.
 
I’ll bet he hasn’t voted for a Dem in over a decade.

Being independent is really just a voting designation. There are plenty of Pubs that I have liked and voted for. You guys constantly confuse not liking Trump to being a far left socialist. It’s an odd characterization. Trump is no conservative.

I will add...

A Dem voting for a Pub is not the same as a Pub voting for a Dem. The entire spectrum is moving left including the Republican Party.

So a Dem in his 50's voting Pub is very much like that same guy voting Dem when he was 20. OTOH, a 50 year old lifelong Pub would have a very hard time voting for a Dem when his loyalties are conservative and the entire spectrum has moved way to his/her left.
 
How do we effectively purge the RINOs that have not only taken over the party but also the followers? Not only on this board but things I’ve seen all over is the softness of the “Republican” party. At what point do we reset the party and realize this soft approach will not work and is enabling the Dims to gain power.

I’ve noticed on this board the RINOs seem to band together and think they represent the party. We can not and will not accomplish our goals with them clinging to the party moving forward.
Take this nonsense somewhere else. This is a sports board not a political food fight board for losers.
 
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oh the repub party is collapsing rn fo sho... team blue still could ef up the chance to retain power in midterms tho
 
I’ve voted for Dems in local elections. In this last election, I voted for a well-respected guy who’s been a teacher and HFBC at my sons HS in a County Council race. Honestly don’t think I’ve ever voted D in a statewide, congressional, or federal contest.

I agree that Trump is not a principled conservative like Reagan or a Ted Cruz. I tend to tend to wonder if there had been an opening for him to run as a Dem in 2016 if he would have done so. Frankly there was very little prior to 2016 to indicate his conservative principles. I voted for him in 2020 because he was the better choice for judges, regulatory reform, etc. I hate that he lost, however.
Fair enough. I would consider you to be a moderate Pub. What’s sad is that if you don’t believe in everything Trump says, and crazy conspiracy theories, these days that makes you a RINO. Sad what the Party has become. I really hope they can get back to their roots.

Same with the Dems. They need to work more for the working class without going full crazy Socialist.
 
I will add...

A Dem voting for a Pub is not the same as a Pub voting for a Dem. The entire spectrum is moving left including the Republican Party.

So a Dem in his 50's voting Pub is very much like that same guy voting Dem when he was 20. OTOH, a 50 year old lifelong Pub would have a very hard time voting for a Dem when his loyalties are conservative and the entire spectrum has moved way to his/her left.
I couldn’t disagree more. While there aren’t any far right conservative Dems left, there are still plenty of moderate Dems. And the die hard Trump followers are certainly farther right than ever.

And don’t be so upset about things moving left. It’s the natural order of things. Personal freedoms are a liberal concept. That includes for all people, including women, minorities, sexual preferences, etc. Surely you don’t want to go back to the days of segregated schools, restricted voting rights, no workplace safety rules, child labor, no protections for our senior citizens, etc. Society is much better off today that it was for most of last century. What is acceptable today for most, was extremely liberal at some point.

Even taxes. The top tax bracket was as high as 70% last century. Even Biden is talking about only taking it up to 39%. Things aren’t as far left as you are making it out to be.
 
Fair enough. I would consider you to be a moderate Pub. What’s sad is that if you don’t believe in everything Trump says, and crazy conspiracy theories, these days that makes you a RINO. Sad what the Party has become. I really hope they can get back to their roots.

Same with the Dems. They need to work more for the working class without going full crazy Socialist.

I don't agree with everything Trump says, don't buy into the crazy conspiracies and I've said that several times on this board.

Haven't been called a RINO yet.
 
I couldn’t disagree more. While there aren’t any far right conservative Dems left, there are still plenty of moderate Dems. And the die hard Trump followers are certainly farther right than ever.

That is simply untrue...and you've made this point yourself. Many more conservatives are more willing now than ever to support more social programs.

Are you guessing more or less Pubs support gay marriage today than they would have in 1985? 1995? 2005? 2015? You're dead wrong here.


And don’t be so upset about things moving left. It’s the natural order of things.

Who is upset about it? I stated it as a matter off fact. I'm fiscally conservative but I'm more liberal on social issues. Not because I love the idea of gay marriage or legal abortions...but rather because I don't believe that is the purview of government. Government will NEVER be effective at legislating morality. EVER.


Personal freedoms are a liberal concept.

Is that still the case? Because many libs are now in fact attacking those personal freedoms. The left is becoming more and more intolerant of ideas to which they don't subscribe.


That includes for all people, including women, minorities, sexual preferences, etc. Surely you don’t want to go back to the days of segregated schools, restricted voting rights, no workplace safety rules, child labor, no protections for our senior citizens, etc. Society is much better off today that it was for most of last century. What is acceptable today for most, was extremely liberal at some point.

And my party was responsible for many of the things that you listed. OTOH, a government that holds your hand as you cross the street refuses to let go on the other side. The UK and their nanny state being a prime example. Like it or not, Brits enjoy fewer personal freedoms than you and I do...because they are WAY more liberal.


Even taxes. The top tax bracket was as high as 70% last century. Even Biden is talking about only taking it up to 39%. Things aren’t as far left as you are making it out to be.

And those taxes stifled our economy. I'm not a fan of having them creep back up. I'm not a fan of penalizing success. I'm a fan of paying your share...but some aren't paying at all. Some are in fact siphoning from others. That's unsustainable.

Socially, we are SO far left of where we were, even 20 years ago, that it's almost unrecognizable. I'm not even saying that this is all a bad thing. I'm stating that we are way left of where we were and that is simply not debatable.
 
That is simply untrue...and you've made this point yourself. Many more conservatives are more willing now than ever to support more social programs.

Are you guessing more or less Pubs support gay marriage today than they would have in 1985? 1995? 2005? 2015? You're dead wrong here.




Who is upset about it? I stated it as a matter off fact. I'm fiscally conservative but I'm more liberal on social issues. Not because I love the idea of gay marriage or legal abortions...but rather because I don't believe that is the purview of government. Government will NEVER be effective at legislating morality. EVER.




Is that still the case? Because many libs are now in fact attacking those personal freedoms. The left is becoming more and more intolerant of ideas to which they don't subscribe.




And my party was responsible for many of the things that you listed. OTOH, a government that holds your hand as you cross the street refuses to let go on the other side. The UK and their nanny state being a prime example. Like it or not, Brits enjoy fewer personal freedoms than you and I do...because they are WAY more liberal.




And those taxes stifled our economy. I'm not a fan of having them creep back up. I'm not a fan of penalizing success. I'm a fan of paying your share...but some aren't paying at all. Some are in fact siphoning from others. That's unsustainable.

Socially, we are SO far left of where we were, even 20 years ago, that it's almost unrecognizable. I'm not even saying that this is all a bad thing. I'm stating that we are way left of where we were and that is simply not debatable.
TLDR.

Just kidding.

1. Yes, we are saying the same thing. I was talking about Trumpers, not conservatives or mainstream Pubs ( now called RINOs)

2. Agree completely. So you’re a liberal. And a conservative.

3. Leftists aren’t liberals. Big difference.

4. See #3. But what social changes have Pubs led, after Lincoln? I can’t think of any. By their nature, conservatives resist
change.

5. Taxes are too complicated for a bullet point. As I told 1776, taxes can be too high and they can be too low. I agree with what you said. Fairness is what’s most important.

6. Agreed, overall. But the Far Right seems to be making a comeback. At least the noisy ones.
 
TLDR.

Just kidding.

1. Yes, we are saying the same thing. I was talking about Trumpers, not conservatives or mainstream Pubs ( now called RINOs)

2. Agree completely. So you’re a liberal. And a conservative.

3. Leftists aren’t liberals. Big difference.

4. See #3. But what social changes have Pubs led, after Lincoln? I can’t think of any. By their nature, conservatives resist
change.

5. Taxes are too complicated for a bullet point. As I told 1776, taxes can be too high and they can be too low. I agree with what you said. Fairness is what’s most important.

6. Agreed, overall. But the Far Right seems to be making a comeback. At least the noisy ones.

It was long. I tried hard to be brief.

1. Many people who voted for Trump feel the same way I do. I'm not a unicorn...even on this board.

2. Yikes...let's just call me a compassionate conservative.

3. I'm not sure i understand what you were going for here. People to my left are attempting to silence, and/or cancel, those with different (offensive) opinions. From abortion to social issues to climate change. It's fascism. Ugly word, hard truth.

4. Woman's suffrage would be one example. That didn't come from conservatism but it sure as hell came from my party. Conservatives aren't against change...they're for a measured approach to change. See...look before you leap.

5. Agree. And I have no issue with the rich paying a bit more (%). But there comes a point...

Also, paying into the system gives people a voice, it gives you pride and buy-in and it helps foster ACTUAL equity.

6. I would offer that perhaps todays far right sounds louder to you because the left has made even moderate conservative positions from the 80's out to be extremist and dangerous.
 
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It was long. I tried hard to be brief.

1. Many people who voted for Trump feel the same way I do. I'm not a unicorn...even on this board.

2. Yikes...let's just call me a compassionate conservative.

3. I'm not sure i understand what you were going for here. People to my left are attempting to silence, and/or cancel, those with different (offensive) opinions. From abortion to social issues to climate change. It's fascism. Ugly word, hard truth.

4. Woman's suffrage would be one example. That didn't come from conservatism but it sure as hell came from my party. Conservatives aren't against change...they're for a measured approach to change. See...look before you leap.

5. Agree. And I have no issue with the rich paying a bit more (%). But there comes a point...

Also, paying into the system gives people a voice, it gives you pride and buy-in and it helps foster ACTUAL equity.

6. I would offer that perhaps todays far right sounds louder to you because the left has made even moderate conservative positions from the 80's out to be extremist and dangerous.
1. Not everyone who voted for Trump is a Trumper. Some just held their nose, just didn’t like Biden, or just always vote for Pubs for a number of reasons. I have no problem with those Pubs. What I call a Trumper are The people that go to his rallies, think he’s the best president ever, defend him at all costs, and/or were at the Capitol trying to overturn the election. You people know who you are.

2. Welcome to the club

3. The Far Let (commies) and the Far Right (fascists) have many similarities. The two ends of the political spectrum almost touch. Neither are liberal or conservatives.

4. You’re right. Learn something new every day. I imagine it was back in the day it was the conservative southern Democrats that were against It.

5. Yeah, nobody actually likes to pay more taxes, but there is no reason billionaires should have a lower tax rate than people who have earned income.

6. Probably true. But I also believe that Trump has given renewed voice to the far right extremists. The FBI and Homeland Security agrees. Far right extremism is on the rise.
 
1. Not everyone who voted for Trump is a Trumper. Some just held their nose, just didn’t like Biden, or just always vote for Pubs for a number of reasons. I have no problem with those Pubs. What I call a Trumper are The people that go to his rallies, think he’s the best president ever, defend him at all costs, and/or were at the Capitol trying to overturn the election. You people know who you are.

2. Welcome to the club

3. The Far Let (commies) and the Far Right (fascists) have many similarities. The two ends of the political spectrum almost touch. Neither are liberal or conservatives.

4. You’re right. Learn something new every day. I imagine it was back in the day it was the conservative southern Democrats that were against It.

5. Yeah, nobody actually likes to pay more taxes, but there is no reason billionaires should have a lower tax rate than people who have earned income.

6. Probably true. But I also believe that Trump has given renewed voice to the far right extremists. The FBI and Homeland Security agrees. Far right extremism is on the rise.

1. Nothing wrong with going to a rally. Libs do it...or used to...all the time.

2. I've been a member for my entire adult life.

3. I would argue that they do touch...and bleed into one another.

4. Yep. As did Democratic conservatives.

5. This debate is not all about billionaires. In fact, very little of it is about billionaires. But that has always been the red herring that libs want to talk about. But even billionaires don't deserve ridiculous tax rates.

6. Extremists are idiots no matter where they reside. When we pretend that those groups are larger than they actually are, we give them more power.

I've lived in the south almost all of my life. I've seen 4 KKK members in my life (as me and 25 white and black football players chased them out of our school parking lot).

If we truly want to see a rise in Right-Wing extremism, the best way to get it done would be to continue to alienate and disenfranchise people who offend us by saying things that we disagree with.
 
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