Proprietary COVID-19 and Vaccine thread

[fatman76]

Meh, no need. The worlds medical community is already doing it. The numbers speak for themself. Real numbers, not that fake ones you fall for. .

But you do you. I don’t really care what you do.

How about those numbers. Scroll down and check the chart. This is normal? Why isn’t the “entire medical community” speaking out about this?

2111 Athlete Cardiac Arrests or Serious Issues, 1483 of Them Dead, Since COVID Injection - Real Science

It is not normal for young athletes to suffer cardiac arrest or death while playing sport, but most of these come shortly after a COVID shot.

goodsciencing.com

 

[fatman76]

https://www.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/coronavirus/article-689749

"Israel’s Pandemic Response Team was warned last Tuesday night that Israel could go from being reasonably protected against Omicron to not being protected at all within just a month.

As a result, the team – along with the COVID-19 Vaccination Advisory Board – voted to allow the country’s highest risk population to receive a fourth shot of the Pfizer COVID vaccine, sparking controversy in Israel and around the world."
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Crazy people keep taking the trash vaccines.

We’ve been following Israel’s lead most of this pandemic. This scares me.

 

[BSC911]

How about those numbers. Scroll down and check the chart. This is normal? Why isn’t the “entire medical community” speaking out about this?

2111 Athlete Cardiac Arrests or Serious Issues, 1483 of Them Dead, Since COVID Injection - Real Science

It is not normal for young athletes to suffer cardiac arrest or death while playing sport, but most of these come shortly after a COVID shot.

goodsciencing.com

Sorry, dude, I’m not wasting my time with something called good sciencing. Especially since you have shown a propensity for not understanding or challenging the information provided. Is this really a scientific study or just a random compilation?

Maybe thats the reason the medical community isn’t speaking out. Or do you really think they want to harm their patients? At this point, you seem a bit nutty.

 

[BSC911]

How about those numbers. Scroll down and check the chart. This is normal? Why isn’t the “entire medical community” speaking out about this?

2111 Athlete Cardiac Arrests or Serious Issues, 1483 of Them Dead, Since COVID Injection - Real Science

It is not normal for young athletes to suffer cardiac arrest or death while playing sport, but most of these come shortly after a COVID shot.

goodsciencing.com

I did look up these guys credentials, which pretty much sums it all up. You ignore the CDC and other professionals, while relying on these yahoos. LOL. I guess you just can’t see how easily duped you are.

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A few people have been asking who we are, what our credentials are, and what we’re trying to prove.

We are a small team of investigators, news editors, journalists, and truth seekers, now backed up by others, who are discovering pieces of information that we can investigate. It doesn’t really matter who we are. What really matters is that we care carrying on an investigation and we’re presenting the evidence we’ve found, almost all of it documented in mainstream media publications.

 

[fatman76]

I know VAERS has issues. When we have a better adverse event tracking system I'll pay attention to it. But you'd have to believe 1MM adverse reactions and over 20k deaths were completely fabricated. Ask yourself why a passive reporting system maintained and created by the CDC would be so wrong if the CDC is so infallible. You can't have it both ways.

Milestone: Over 1M adverse event reports in VAERS from the COVID vaccine

More proof the mainstream media, Congress, FDA, CDC, NIH, and nearly the entire medical community is conspiring to cover up a disaster in plain sight.

stevekirsch.substack.com

 

[fatman76]

Sorry, dude, I’m not wasting my time with something called good sciencing. Especially since you have shown a propensity for not understanding or challenging the information provided. Is this really a scientific study or just a random compilation?

Maybe thats the reason the medical community isn’t speaking out. Or do you really think they want to harm their patients? At this point, you seem a bit nutty.

Maybe if you would read you'd be able to answer your own questions.
1) This is DIY AF because the data isn't being compiled elsewhere.
2) Every single event they track in the chart is listed below if you scroll. Every report and news story covering each of the 400+ incidences. So it looks like they're "showing their work".
3) The key issue is most international soccer clubs won't state the vaccination status of any player, despite vaccine mandates for most clubs (and European countries). So maybe these don't have anything to do with the vaccines. If you believe that I have some nice oceanfront property to sell you in AZ.
All of this is stated by the authors, if you'd read anything.

And I've said 100 times why I don't think the medical community is speaking out - or at least the mainstream isn't. There's plenty of doctors who've spoken out and paid the price.
1) The FDA and CDC establish the narrative and protocols.
2) State medical boards answer to these governing bodies.
3) Therefore any doctor or nurse who speaks out has to either do it anonymously or face severe repercussions - such as losing their license. These are people with families to support that worked very hard to achieve their station in life.
4) The absolute value of the numbers is very small. They are only meaningful when you do some trend analysis. But remember, "rare" is only rare if it doesn't happen to you and I'm most interested in understanding the effect of a change in variables (i.e. the introduction of the vaccines).
5) Causality is really difficult. Even in my own world, my wife's doctor isn't sure if the vax caused her issue, as an example. Best she could say is "we can't rule it out". That's the issue with an experimental medical technology in a system as complex as the human body. We may not know for sure the full impact for many years.

Here's another article from Israel that cites more than one study. The conclusions are the same - we're seeing a massive uptick in healthy athletes with heart injuries or death.

רטרו ניוז – מגזין חדשותי במגוון נושאים ישנים וחדשים. כל מה שרציתם לדעת.

רטרו ניוז הוא מגרש המשחקים הדיגיטלי לגילוי והשראה אינסופיים. בין אם אתם שועלי וינטג', אומנים מודרניים או חובבי חדשות – ברטרו ניוז תמצאו הכל.

www.rtnews.co.il

All I see from you is denial and attacking of sources. So why don't you do some research. Show the board that there's no increase in serious cardiac outcomes from these vaccines. And use evidence, not fact checkers. Pfizer and Reuters/Thompson have the same corporate governance, but I'm sure you were aware of that conflict of interest.

Maybe I can get you to be a little more open minded by asking two questions:
1) Have the vaccine manufacturers admitted to increased incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in young men (specifically Pfizer)?
2) Can extreme exercise with those conditions left untreated lead to serious heart problems?

 

[fatman76]

I did look up these guys credentials, which pretty much sums it all up. You ignore the CDC and other professionals, while relying on these yahoos. LOL. I guess you just can’t see how easily duped you are.

———

A few people have been asking who we are, what our credentials are, and what we’re trying to prove.

We are a small team of investigators, news editors, journalists, and truth seekers, now backed up by others, who are discovering pieces of information that we can investigate. It doesn’t really matter who we are. What really matters is that we care carrying on an investigation and we’re presenting the evidence we’ve found, almost all of it documented in mainstream media publications.

Every single case they are charting is cited below the article.

They are right, it doesn't matter who they are. They are tracking data, and admitting the flaws in coming to any conclusions from it even if it's extremely alarming.

So they aren't making anything up, you just don't like the premise so you attack the source.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

Ideally, absolutely.

But I have personally spoken with 3 docs who confirmed that pharmacists are either being instructed by their corporate entities not to fill the rxs or are having their shipments truncated to the point of scarcity / man made shortages.

These 3 docs have gotten some from either a pharmacist who had a few pills to spare or from friends in the veterinary community. Anyone who bucks these instructions is threatened with being cut off (What I was told). If I know these things are happening, you can bet there is something larger at play here, since I'm pretty out of the loop.

Again, I advise you to follow the money.

edit - BTW, I got really lucky to be able to get the IVM / HCQ at all. Had to get from 3 different sources to get enough for the wife and I. I feel for those with no healthcare contacts / resources.

Did you see the post I made about UF researchers discovering a possible treatment using Benadryl and Milk (lactoferrin)?

That stuff is over the counter!!!!!

 

[FresnoGator]

Did you see the post I made about UF researchers discovering a possible treatment using Benadryl and Milk (lactoferrin)?

That stuff is over the counter!!!!!

Did not, will check for it. What page?

 

[BSC911]

Every single case they are charting is cited below the article.

They are right, it doesn't matter who they are. They are tracking data, and admitting the flaws in coming to any conclusions from it even if it's extremely alarming.

So they aren't making anything up, you just don't like the premise so you attack the source.

Because the source is a bunch of bloggers, not scientists. Where is the comparison with prior years?

Admit it, you keep falling for this stuff meant to attract eyeballs. It’s all clickbait meant to appeal to conspiracy nuts. Read the comments.

 

[BSC911]

Maybe if you would read you'd be able to answer your own questions.
1) This is DIY AF because the data isn't being compiled elsewhere.
2) Every single event they track in the chart is listed below if you scroll. Every report and news story covering each of the 400+ incidences. So it looks like they're "showing their work".
3) The key issue is most international soccer clubs won't state the vaccination status of any player, despite vaccine mandates for most clubs (and European countries). So maybe these don't have anything to do with the vaccines. If you believe that I have some nice oceanfront property to sell you in AZ.
All of this is stated by the authors, if you'd read anything.

And I've said 100 times why I don't think the medical community is speaking out - or at least the mainstream isn't. There's plenty of doctors who've spoken out and paid the price.
1) The FDA and CDC establish the narrative and protocols.
2) State medical boards answer to these governing bodies.
3) Therefore any doctor or nurse who speaks out has to either do it anonymously or face severe repercussions - such as losing their license. These are people with families to support that worked very hard to achieve their station in life.
4) The absolute value of the numbers is very small. They are only meaningful when you do some trend analysis. But remember, "rare" is only rare if it doesn't happen to you and I'm most interested in understanding the effect of a change in variables (i.e. the introduction of the vaccines).
5) Causality is really difficult. Even in my own world, my wife's doctor isn't sure if the vax caused her issue, as an example. Best she could say is "we can't rule it out". That's the issue with an experimental medical technology in a system as complex as the human body. We may not know for sure the full impact for many years.

Here's another article from Israel that cites more than one study. The conclusions are the same - we're seeing a massive uptick in healthy athletes with heart injuries or death.

רטרו ניוז – מגזין חדשותי במגוון נושאים ישנים וחדשים. כל מה שרציתם לדעת.

רטרו ניוז הוא מגרש המשחקים הדיגיטלי לגילוי והשראה אינסופיים. בין אם אתם שועלי וינטג', אומנים מודרניים או חובבי חדשות – ברטרו ניוז תמצאו הכל.

www.rtnews.co.il

All I see from you is denial and attacking of sources. So why don't you do some research. Show the board that there's no increase in serious cardiac outcomes from these vaccines. And use evidence, not fact checkers. Pfizer and Reuters/Thompson have the same corporate governance, but I'm sure you were aware of that conflict of interest.

Maybe I can get you to be a little more open minded by asking two questions:
1) Have the vaccine manufacturers admitted to increased incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in young men (specifically Pfizer)?
2) Can extreme exercise with those conditions left untreated lead to serious heart problems?

I don’t really care to. I’m not young, nor an athlete (although I am a former UF letterman) Nor do I have access to all of the studies. All I know is that you’ve presented nothing of any substance. If that’s enough for you, then go for it.

I JUST DONT CARE

 

[fatman76]

Because the source is a bunch of bloggers, not scientists. Where is the comparison with prior years?

Admit it, you keep falling for this stuff meant to attract eyeballs. It’s all clickbait meant to appeal to conspiracy nuts. Read the comments.

If you'd read anything you'd see that they're starting that work now because it's not readily available.

I love how you can read the comments but you can't seem to read the content.

I'm going to ask you again because you're dodging.
1) Have the vaccine manufacturers admitted to increased incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in young men (specifically Pfizer)?
2) Can extreme exercise with those conditions left untreated lead to serious heart problems?

 

[fatman76]

I don’t really care to. I’m not young, nor an athlete (although I am a former UF letterman) Nor do I have access to all of the studies. All I know is that you’ve presented nothing of any substance. If that’s enough for you, then go for it.

I DONT CARE

So you don't care if these vaccines are causing serious injury or death to a population with zero risk from Covid?

I don't know why that would surprise me at this point. Feels like something a bleeding heart liberal would want to investigate.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

What good news is there to share about the shots? That more people aren't collapsing and dying?

Think back over the last 6 months: How many posters here have announced over the last 6 months that they weren't 'vaccinated', but based on how well the shots are performing, that they had decided to get the shot?

I can't think of a single poster.

Now how many posters over the last 6 months have said here that they had gotten the shot or booster previously, but they aren't planning on getting any more?

I can think of several. Maybe as many as 10?

I will take another shot BUT, as I listed, it will be one of the traditional vaccines.

JnJ is the closest we got but I am looking for BETTER.

I believe most of the adverse reactions are from Pfizer( which is ignored ), Moderna and the clotting from JnJ.

9 deaths out of 16M from clotting and the CDC blackballed them. CDC et al are IMHO all bought off by Pfizer.

The vaccine that people should demand access to is Covaxin.

Covaxin even if it is not as "effective" ( a few percent) as Pfizer and Moderna is an inactivated COVID virus. This is how vaccines have been made for the longest time. I see the risk in this as negligible.

I have never felt good about the mRNA and was only a little more comfortable with the virus vector tech of JnJ.

I would be perfectly comfortable with Covaxin or Corbevax.

Novavax and SPNF would be my 3rd and 4th choices. The concern there is the adjuvants and the nano-lipids used to create these vaccines but that IMO would be less risky than the unknown long term effects of the mRNA tech.

Now funny thing, if one believes in "conspiracy theories" and I do not, If Gates is trying to cull the worlds population via the mRNA shots he going to fail big time.

India 1.4B, which will overtake China 1.5B in pop in about 3 years is the country rolling out Covaxin which they co-created.

 

[fatman76]

I will take another shot BUT, as I listed, it will be one of the traditional vaccines.

JnJ is the closest we got but I am looking for BETTER.

I believe most of the adverse reactions are from Pfizer( which is ignored ), Moderna and the clotting from JnJ.

9 deaths out of 16M from clotting and the CDC blackballed them. CDC et al are IMHO all bought off by Pfizer.

The vaccine that people should demand access to is Covaxin.

Covaxin even if it is not as "effective" ( a few percent) as Pfizer and Moderna is an inactivated COVID virus. This is how vaccines have been made for the longest time. I see the risk in this as negligible.

I have never felt good about the mRNA and was only a little more comfortable with the virus vector tech of JnJ.

I would be perfectly comfortable with Covaxin or Corbevax.

Novavax and SPNF would be my 3rd and 4th choices. The concern there is the adjuvants and the nano-lipids used to create these vaccines but that IMO would be less risky than the unknown long term effects of the mRNA tech.

Now funny thing, if one believes in "conspiracy theories" and I do not, If Gates is trying to cull the worlds population via the mRNA shots he going to fail big time.

India 1.4B, which will overtake China 1.5B in pop in about 3 years is the country rolling out Covaxin which they co-created.

I highly doubt we ever see Covaxin approved here. Fauci was very clear in saying we don't need any more vaccines.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

Did not, will check for it. What page?

Proprietary COVID-19 and Vaccine thread

WTF are you babbling about? That's funny. Even I am not sure what the dialogue is about at this point (and I am, right/wrong/otherwise, deeply in favor of the Vaccines)

florida.forums.rivals.com

 

[BSC911]

Another Darwin Award nominee.

So tragic.

Anti-Vax Podcaster Who Got COVID at a Conspiracy Conference Has Died — VICE

Doug Kuzma, 61, used his show to push an array of conspiracy theories ranging from QAnon to COVID denial and election fraud lies.

apple.news

 

[fatman76]

Another Darwin Award nominee.

So tragic.

Anti-Vax Podcaster Who Got COVID at a Conspiracy Conference Has Died — VICE

Doug Kuzma, 61, used his show to push an array of conspiracy theories ranging from QAnon to COVID denial and election fraud lies.

apple.news

At least you're learning to fake it.

 

[fatman76]

I will take another shot BUT, as I listed, it will be one of the traditional vaccines.

JnJ is the closest we got but I am looking for BETTER.

I believe most of the adverse reactions are from Pfizer( which is ignored ), Moderna and the clotting from JnJ.

9 deaths out of 16M from clotting and the CDC blackballed them. CDC et al are IMHO all bought off by Pfizer.

The vaccine that people should demand access to is Covaxin.

Covaxin even if it is not as "effective" ( a few percent) as Pfizer and Moderna is an inactivated COVID virus. This is how vaccines have been made for the longest time. I see the risk in this as negligible.

I have never felt good about the mRNA and was only a little more comfortable with the virus vector tech of JnJ.

I would be perfectly comfortable with Covaxin or Corbevax.

Novavax and SPNF would be my 3rd and 4th choices. The concern there is the adjuvants and the nano-lipids used to create these vaccines but that IMO would be less risky than the unknown long term effects of the mRNA tech.

Now funny thing, if one believes in "conspiracy theories" and I do not, If Gates is trying to cull the worlds population via the mRNA shots he going to fail big time.

India 1.4B, which will overtake China 1.5B in pop in about 3 years is the country rolling out Covaxin which they co-created.

I don't care how the JnJ works, anything that turns your body into a spike-protein making machine is scary to me...and any vaccine that carries that marker on it's own seems much, much safer (and more proven over time).

 

[BSC911]

At least you're learning to fake it.

Because I left off the winky?

Sorry if i don’t shed a tear for nut cases.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

I don't care how the JnJ works, anything that turns your body into a spike-protein making machine is scary to me...and any vaccine that carries that marker on it's own seems much, much safer (and more proven over time).

Yeah but it was the least scary at the time you and I chose to take it.

 

[fatman76]

Yeah but it was the least scary at the time you and I chose to take it.

me too

 

[fatman76]

Because I left off the winky?

Sorry if i don’t shed a tear for nut cases.

You don't shed a tear for anyone.

You just said you couldn't care less if young athletes are dropping dead because you aren't a young athlete.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Did not, will check for it. What page?

I read the article, potentially very good news.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

You don't shed a tear for anyone.

You just said you couldn't care less if young athletes are dropping dead because you aren't a young athlete.

I find it fascinating how @BSC911 picks his villains apparently based on their having an item or attribute that he lacks:

He hates me I have 10X the number of Likes he does, in half the time posting here.

He hates you cause you can think for yourself when it comes to the shots. @BSC911 just did as he was told and rolled up his sleeve

He hates @NavigatorII because Navi has an understanding of basic accounting and finance, and he doesn't.

He hates @Sunburnt Indian cause Sunny could pass a test that @BSC911 flunked

He hates @gatordad3 cause dad has kids enrolled at UF, and @BSC911 doesn't

He hates Trump cause he's a successful businessman



Hell the only reason he started fighting with blueeyedgator was cause beg one day claimed he was handsome LOL

 

[BSC911]

You don't shed a tear for anyone.

You just said you couldn't care less if young athletes are dropping dead because you aren't a young athlete.

Not even close. Nice. try dude. You’re the one trying to convince people not to take a vaccine that has saved millions of lives. But you only seem worried about a few athletes with no proven connection to a vaccine.

What I don’t care about is having to prove anything to you. This is your campaign. And an odd one at that.

 

[Illegal-shift]

If you'd read anything you'd see that they're starting that work now because it's not readily available.

I love how you can read the comments but you can't seem to read the content.

I'm going to ask you again because you're dodging.
1) Have the vaccine manufacturers admitted to increased incidence of myocarditis and pericarditis in young men (specifically Pfizer)?
2) Can extreme exercise with those conditions left untreated lead to serious heart problems?

Its good that you brought this article up because its an excellent example of what the problem is here. That article, compilation, study, whatever you want to call it has so many holes you can hardly read it without falling straight through the pages into the abyss (do I really have to point out the holes to you?). And yet you apparently put more reliance on it than actual medical clinic studies. Why would any reasonably intelligent person ever do that?

Its apparently because, for some reason, you have a very strong anti-vaccine agenda. It comes through in virtually ever one of your posts. You ignore solid evidence that says your wrong and you latch onto anything that would potentially support your POV no matter how weak or illogical the argument is.

So there really isn't any point to further discussion. I will let you continue to spin your tales without further interruption.
Carry on in peace.

 

[BSC911]

I find it fascinating how @BSC911 picks his villains apparently based on their having an item or attribute that he lacks:

He hates me I have 10X the number of Likes he does, in half the time posting here.

He hates you cause you can think for yourself when it comes to the shots. @BSC911 just did as he was told and rolled up his sleeve

He hates @NavigatorII because Navi has an understanding of basic accounting and finance, and he doesn't.

He hates @Sunburnt Indian cause Sunny could pass a test that @BSC911 flunked

He hates @gatordad3 cause dad has kids enrolled at UF, and @BSC911 doesn't

He hates Trump cause he's a successful businessman



Hell the only reason he started fighting with blueeyedgator was cause beg one day claimed he was handsome LOL

Hey, look, my little puppet is still obsessed with me. Follows me around all day looking for attention. Dying for me to respond to his silly posts. Here, I’ll throw you a bone.

What I hate is welchers. If you don’t honor your bets like a real man, then you have no use to me.

Keep on trolling, Welcher.

 

[fatman76]

Not even close. Nice. try dude. You’re the one trying to convince people not to take a vaccine that has saved millions of lives. But you only seem worried about a few athletes with no proven connection to a vaccine.

What I don’t care about is having to prove anything to you. This is your campaign. And an odd one at that.

Here's a recap, since you forgot:

Me: "Show the board that there's no increase in serious cardiac outcomes from these vaccines. And use evidence"
You: "I don’t really care to. I’m not young, nor an athlete (although I am a former UF letterman)"

Clearly you stated you don't care to even start to look into the possibility that young athletes are being seriously injured because you aren't one. This isn't complicated, you don't care and you said why - you can't reword your justification now that you realize how awful it is.

Now - who have I convinced not to take a vaccine? I know it's offensive to you when someone questions authority, but when I come across information that's incongruent with what's being shoved down our collective throat I'm going to ask questions or share - and I'm especially sensitive because likely vaccine injuries have occurred in my personal sphere. My only "campaign" is to try to figure out the truth. We're 2 years, 500MM doses, 800k deaths "with" and 50MM cases into this thing and people are still dying, case records are being set and our gov't officials aren't changing anything. In fact, Biden just publicly threw in the towel.

But make sure and get your booster, because that has to be the answer right?

 

[instaGATOR]

I've yet to see where any of these Critical Care DOCTORS have been shown to be frauds or incompetent.

The 'I-MASK+ Prophylaxis and Early Outpatient Treatment Protocol for COVID-19' and the 'MATH+ Hospital Treatment Protocol for COVID-19' are physiologic-based combination treatment regimen created by the FLCCC Alliance, a group of leaders in critical care medicine. All component medicines in our protocols are well approved, inexpensive, readily available and have been used for decades with well ...

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[instaGATOR]

FLCCC Statement on the Departure of Paul Marik, MD from East Virginia Medical School​

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/FLCCC-Statement-Marik-EVMS-FINAL-1-4-22.pdf

 

[instaGATOR]

Overcoming the Barriers to Access Ivermectin Prewcriptions

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Overcoming-Pharmacy-Barriers.pdf

 

[fatman76]

Its apparently because, for some reason, you have a very strong anti-vaccine agenda. It comes through in virtually ever one of your posts. You ignore solid evidence that says your wrong and you latch onto anything that would potentially support your POV no matter how weak or illogical the argument is.

So there really isn't any point to further discussion. I will let you continue to spin your tales without further interruption.
Carry on in peace.

First off what article? I’ve linked two on the subject and I highly doubt you spent more that 30 seconds on either.

Secondly I am not anti vaccine - I’ve taken every vaccine offered to me (except for the fact I’ve only taken a few flu shots) including J&J for Covid. All of my kids are have had all their vaccines (except Covid) and all of my pets are fully vaccinated (also except for Covid). At this point I’d roll up my sleeve for Novavax in a heartbeat (still monitoring it as it’s new). Super odd for a “anti vaccine” guy, right?

I’m also not telling anyone ITT not to take the Covid vaccine - search every page and find where I recommended someone not get vaccinated. @goldmom mentioned getting a booster and I didn’t tell her not to. It’s a personal health care choice, I’m not a doctor and I’m not a medical researcher. I’m not even that good with numbers.

All I’m doing is bringing information that isn’t congruent with what the MSM and three letter agencies are telling us. If you don’t agree with any questions I ask or information I post, ignore it. I don’t tag you or even talk about you unless you respond to one of my posts. Clearly something about me not shutting up, rolling up my sleeve and blindly doing as I’m told bothers you. That probably says a lot more about you than me.

 

[instaGATOR]

 

[fatman76]

FLCCC Statement on the Departure of Paul Marik, MD from East Virginia Medical School​

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/FLCCC-Statement-Marik-EVMS-FINAL-1-4-22.pdf

Wait, I thought the “entire medical community” had reached a consensus?

 

[instaGATOR]

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

And yet you apparently put more reliance on it than actual medical clinic studies. Why would any reasonably intelligent person ever do that?

Because he can think for himself and he doesn't blindly trust what others tell him?

This might be the most insightful thing ever posted here for anyone that wants to understand how the liberal mind works. Almost as telling as how you liberals keep calling @fatman76 a 'hypocrite' for getting the shot, then continuing to do research on them.

Fatman is thinking critically, and for himself. The average lib here has no idea how to do either, so Fatman's behavior confuses and enrages them.

Did you actually read your comment above? Have you read ANY of your comments?

I can distill everything you have said about covid down to this: "I listen to what people in positions of authority tell me to do, and I do not question."

Fatman does. All intelligent people do.

That frustrates and confuses the hell out of you. LOL

 

[instaGATOR]

 

[fatman76]

This is a win, I don’t care what your position on vaccines is.

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

This is a win, I don’t care what your position on vaccines is.

ZeroHedge

ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero

www.zerohedge.com

Very good news. We just want the truth so we can all make an informed decision.