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What does giving ventilators to NY have to do the vaccine? What does declaring a national emergency have to do with the vaccine? You have to be trolling me at this point.

Maybe you should actually read the posts you are replying to. He created Operation Warp Speed to speed the creation of the vaccines. He mobilized the military to speed the delivery of the vaccines.

Fauci, the dems and the media told us it would take years to get a vaccine to market.

Trump did it in 6 months. You're welcome.
 
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Using the resources of the federal government and the U.S. private sector, Operation Warp Speed (OWS) will accelerate the testing, supply, development, and distribution of safe and effective vaccines, therapeutics, and diagnostics to counter COVID-19 by January 2021.

Operation Warp Speed was a federal effort that supported multiple COVID-19 vaccine candidates to speed up development.

We analyzed the program's vaccine candidates and found that their development followed traditional practices, with some adaptations. For example, some clinical trial phases overlapped with each other and with animal studies to accelerate development. Two vaccines were authorized for emergency use—our tracker shows all the candidates.

We also found that agencies are working to help mitigate vaccine manufacturing challenges. For example, agencies have taken steps to require contractors to prioritize vaccine production supplies.

Operation Warp Speed (OWS)—a partnership between the Departments of Health and Human Services (HHS) and Defense (DOD)—aimed to help accelerate the development of a COVID-19 vaccine. GAO found that OWS and vaccine companies adopted several strategies to accelerate vaccine development and mitigate risk. For example, OWS selected vaccine candidates that use different mechanisms to stimulate an immune response (i.e., platform technologies; see figure). Vaccine companies also took steps, such as starting large-scale manufacturing during clinical trials and combining clinical trial phases or running them concurrently. Clinical trials gather data on safety and efficacy, with more participants in each successive phase (e.g., phase 3 has more participants than phase 2).

Ill provide information, since you guys clearly dont know. OWS was based on distribution and getting the vaccine to the states. They also had the FDA on stand by to review the data from each phase.

Now as far as developing the vaccines, the government or OWS had ZERO involvement. Pfizer purposely told the government and OWS that they didnt need or want any help because they wanted to take all credit for developing the vaccine. They had zero involved with the clinical trails, pfizer have used the same company since they got Viagra. Pfizer was 100% self funded. Moderna which specializes in mRNA vaccines was already working on vaccines for covid before OWS even started. The vaccine wouldve been developed with/without Trump.

So yes, the Trump administration deserves credit for getting it to the states but that's all OWS truly did. You can also watch the 60 mins episode about OWS, in which the director confirms what i just typed.

And as i stated before, this is 1st hand knowledge. I am involved with this.
 
Maybe you should actually read the posts you are replying to. He created Operation Warp Speed to speed the creation of the vaccines. He mobilized the military to speed the delivery of the vaccines.

Fauci, the dems and the media told us it would take years to get a vaccine to market.

Trump did it in 6 months. You're welcome.

How did he speed it up? you're just using broad words or talking points. Please provide specifics.
 
Ill provide information, since you guys clearly dont know. OWS was based on distribution and getting the vaccine to the states. They also had the FDA on stand by to review the data from each phase.

Now as far as developing the vaccines, the government or OWS had ZERO involvement.

Seems the head of the NIH disagrees with you: "National Institutes of Health director Francis Collins tells "Axios on HBO" that the Trump administration deserves credit for the "breathtaking" speed of COVID vaccine development.

The big picture:
The fact that it "got done in 11 months from when we first knew about this virus is at least five years faster than it's ever been before before," Collins said."



Looks like your 'first hand knowledge' isn't worth much.
 
Seems the head of the NIH disagrees with you: "National Institutes of Health director Francis Collins tells "Axios on HBO" that the Trump administration deserves credit for the "breathtaking" speed of COVID vaccine development.

The big picture:
The fact that it "got done in 11 months from when we first knew about this virus is at least five years faster than it's ever been before before," Collins said."



Looks like your 'first hand knowledge' isn't worth much.

Provide specifics or STFU.
 
Provide specifics or STFU.

I did. The head of the NIH said the Trump administration deserves credit for bringing the vaccines to market in months instead of years.

Again, here's what the head of the NIH said: "The fact that it "got done in 11 months from when we first knew about this virus is at least five years faster than it's ever been before before," Collins said."


Are you saying the head of the NIH doesn't know as much about this as some rando Trump hater on a Florida message board?
 
In their own recent announcements, Moderna gave Operation Warp Speed a nod, while Pfizer didn’t mention it. That can be explained by the different partnerships the Trump administration struck with the two companies.

The federal government’s deal with Pfizer would pay for the purchase of the company’s vaccine if it gets FDA emergency use authorization or approval. So Pfizer hasn’t gotten any Warp Speed funding yet. With Moderna and other companies, by contrast, the government is helping to fund the vaccines’ development and various efforts to scale up manufacturing.

Those differences may influence who can claim the credit for the breakthroughs at this stage. But in either case, it’s clear the federal government is playing a significant role in the multi-pronged effort to develop and test vaccine candidates, manufacture them in large quantities and distribute them nationwide.

Congress directed almost $10 billion for Operation Warp Speed efforts and has appropriated other flexible funding.

Historically, vaccine development, testing and approval take years, in part because of tight resources. The goal of Operation Warp Speed is to break down hurdles and produce and deliver 300 million doses of safe and effective COVID-19 vaccines by January 2021 — about a year after the novel coronavirus emerged in China. Beyond vaccines, Operation Warp Speed also oversees the accelerated development, manufacturing and distribution of therapeutics and diagnostics for COVID-19.
 
I did. The head of the NIH said the Trump administration deserves credit for bringing the vaccines to market in months instead of years.

Again, here's what the head of the NIH said: "The fact that it "got done in 11 months from when we first knew about this virus is at least five years faster than it's ever been before before," Collins said."


Are you saying the head of the NIH doesn't know as much about this as some rando Trump hater on a Florida message board?

What did he do? Thats all I'm asking. Let me try to explain what I'm asking. If I say I fixed your car faster then anyone else, you would say we'll what did you fix? If I reply, I fixed it better than anyone else, that's not an answer. You should say, I fixed the motor, the heating system, radiation system etc.

You're just saying he got it to the market fast but what did he do?

OWS was about distribution not development. If you don't believe it because you want to worship Trump then so be it. I've learned awhile again, that you can provide facts but that doesn't mean people have to listen or respect it.

Now you respect Collins? Funny how that works. He criticized Trump handling of covid.
 
In their own recent announcements, Moderna gave Operation Warp Speed a nod, while Pfizer didn’t mention it. That can be explained by the different partnerships the Trump administration struck with the two companies.

The federal government’s deal with Pfizer would pay for the purchase of the company’s vaccine if it gets FDA emergency use authorization or approval. So Pfizer hasn’t gotten any Warp Speed funding yet. With Moderna and other companies, by contrast, the government is helping to fund the vaccines’ development and various efforts to scale up manufacturing.

Those differences may influence who can claim the credit for the breakthroughs at this stage. But in either case, it’s clear the federal government is playing a significant role in the multi-pronged effort to develop and test vaccine candidates, manufacture them in large quantities and distribute them nationwide.

Congress directed almost $10 billion for Operation Warp Speed efforts and has appropriated other flexible funding.

Historically, vaccine development, testing and approval take years, in part because of tight resources. The goal of Operation Warp Speed is to break down hurdles and produce and deliver 300 million doses of safe and effective COVID-19 vaccines by January 2021 — about a year after the novel coronavirus emerged in China. Beyond vaccines, Operation Warp Speed also oversees the accelerated development, manufacturing and distribution of therapeutics and diagnostics for COVID-19.

Thank you for clarification and validation of what I said. Moderna did take money. JnJ didn't, Pfizer didn't, AstraZeneca didn't and I'm not sure about Noravex. The bigger companies want to be self funded for reasons like this. The last thing they want is for someone taking credit for their hard work. They really care about that for advertising.
 
What did he do? Thats all I'm asking. Let me try to explain what I'm asking. If I say I fixed your car faster then anyone else, you would say we'll what did you fix? If I reply, I fixed it better than anyone else, that's not an answer. You should say, I fixed the motor, the heating system, radiation system etc.

You're just saying he got it to the market fast but what did he do?

OWS was about distribution not development. If you don't believe it because you want to worship Trump then so be it. I've learned awhile again, that you can provide facts but that doesn't mean people have to listen or respect it.

Now you respect Collins? Funny how that works. He criticized Trump handling of covid.


Nah, you just hate Trump and don't want to give him any credit. That's why you want specifics, which you will then claim that Trump isn't responsible for, even when the head of the NIH says he is.

Why aren't you respecting Collins here? You did when he criticized Trump, so what changed?

Speaking of specifics: Let's hear your qualifications that make you more knowledgable than Collins here.

Tell us precisely what this 'first hand knowledge' is that you have. Then we can decide for ourselves if you are right, or if you are FOS.
 
In their own recent announcements, Moderna gave Operation Warp Speed a nod, while Pfizer didn’t mention it. That can be explained by the different partnerships the Trump administration struck with the two companies.

The federal government’s deal with Pfizer would pay for the purchase of the company’s vaccine if it gets FDA emergency use authorization or approval. So Pfizer hasn’t gotten any Warp Speed funding yet. With Moderna and other companies, by contrast, the government is helping to fund the vaccines’ development and various efforts to scale up manufacturing.

Those differences may influence who can claim the credit for the breakthroughs at this stage. But in either case, it’s clear the federal government is playing a significant role in the multi-pronged effort to develop and test vaccine candidates, manufacture them in large quantities and distribute them nationwide.

Congress directed almost $10 billion for Operation Warp Speed efforts and has appropriated other flexible funding.

Historically, vaccine development, testing and approval take years, in part because of tight resources. The goal of Operation Warp Speed is to break down hurdles and produce and deliver 300 million doses of safe and effective COVID-19 vaccines by January 2021 — about a year after the novel coronavirus emerged in China. Beyond vaccines, Operation Warp Speed also oversees the accelerated development, manufacturing and distribution of therapeutics and diagnostics for COVID-19.

He's scared to death that someone might think Dr Trump created all these vaccines and that Trump might get credit for them.

This is a whole new level of TDS LMAO!
 
Nah, you just hate Trump and don't want to give him any credit. That's why you want specifics, which you will then claim that Trump isn't responsible for, even when the head of the NIH says he is.

Why aren't you respecting Collins here? You did when he criticized Trump, so what changed?

Speaking of specifics: Let's hear your qualifications that make you more knowledgable than Collins here.

Tell us precisely what this 'first hand knowledge' is that you have. Then we can decide for ourselves if you are right, or if you are FOS.

We're done here.
 
Thank you for clarification and validation of what I said. Moderna did take money. JnJ didn't, Pfizer didn't, AstraZeneca didn't and I'm not sure about Noravex. The bigger companies want to be self funded for reasons like this. The last thing they want is for someone taking credit for their hard work. They really care about that for advertising.
Trying to understand. If it normally takes years to develop a vaccine and the Government wanted it sped up, and then a company is able to develop one in about 10 months. How is that possible without the Governments asssitance. No assistance doesn't have to be $. Maybe a bending or relaxing of Federal Regulations that assist in the fast development??
 
You don't answer any question I answer, yet I answer yours. That's not fair. So I'll debate with others on this board.

What is your 'first hand knowledge' in regards to the Trump Administration's efforts to bring covid vaccines to the market faster? I asked you and you refused to answer.

Give us the list.
 
Trying to understand. If it normally takes years to develop a vaccine and the Government wanted it sped up, and then a company is able to develop one in about 10 months. How is that possible without the Governments asssitance. No assistance doesn't have to be $. Maybe a bending or relaxing of Federal Regulations that assist in the fast development??

Great question. As @BillCutting4585 asked me yesterday, mRNA! That new technology is the main reason why things are moving easily. That is the main reason why your traditional vaccines are still being developed. They are having more issues. Merck, GSK, Eli Lilly have all stopped their covid vaccines because the traditional way isn't working. Without mRNA, we would not have a vaccine.

I can assure you that Pfizer, JnJ and Moderna didn't cut any corners, despite being pressured to. They really care about media perception, the last thing they needed was to be like AstraZeneca, who cut corners and now they can't be approved in the US and they are getting pulled from the EU.
 
What is your 'first hand knowledge' in regards to the Trump Administration's efforts to bring covid vaccines to the market faster? I asked you and you refused to answer.

Give us the list.

Man I asked you questions 1st. Re-read the thread and answer my questions 1st. I have zero issue with answering questions but I can't have you play me. Like you're better than me and above responding to my questions. I answer every question presented to me but I expect the same.
 
Great question. As @BillCutting4585 asked me yesterday, mRNA! That new technology is the main reason why things are moving easily.

So you're claiming all the vaccines that have come to market have this new technology in them?

And if that's the case, how did Fauci and everyone else get it wrong when they thought it would take years?

How is it that the head of the NIH is giving Trump and his administration the credit for this, when you are saying it should be this new technology?

Again, I get this is all about you don't want to give Trump any credit, but in doing so, you are validating our claims that Fauci has no idea what he's talking about. You do see that, right?
 
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Man I asked you questions 1st. Re-read the thread and answer my questions 1st. I have zero issue with answering questions but I can't have you play me. Like you're better than me and above responding to my questions. I answer every question presented to me but I expect the same.

Well maybe I think I'm better than you because you are making wild claims that you refuse to back up.

Maybe if you started backing up your wild claims, I might take you more seriously. Till then, you're just another Trump-hating troll.
 
Trying to understand. If it normally takes years to develop a vaccine and the Government wanted it sped up, and then a company is able to develop one in about 10 months. How is that possible without the Governments asssitance. No assistance doesn't have to be $. Maybe a bending or relaxing of Federal Regulations that assist in the fast development??

Especially since the dems and Fauci all told us it would take YEARS to bring the vaccine to market. That was the whole point: Fauci and the dems claimed we couldn't reopen the country till we had a vaccine.

So Trump said 'we'll have one by the end of the year, maybe before the election'. Remember that?

And he was right.

The dems claimed he was wrong, it would take years.

So even if you have TDS and don't want to give Trump credit for getting the vaccines to market YEARS ahead of projections, you DO have to admit that Fauci and the dems WERE WRONG when they claimed it would take years.

Somehow, we have certain posters here that think Trump was wrong, and Fauci was right. When the facts prove it was the exact opposite.

TDS.
 
So you're claiming all the vaccines that have come to market have this new technology in them?

And if that's the case, how did Fauci and everyone else get it wrong when they thought it would take years?

How is it that the head of the NIH is giving Trump and his administration the credit for this, when you are saying it should be this new technology?

Again, I get this is all about you don't want to give Trump any credit, but in doing so, you are validating our claims that Fauci has no idea what he's talking about. You do see that, right?

Show me where i ever stood up for Fauci?
 
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Then it doesn't meet the legal definition of a vaccine. @Nolec will verify.

Welcher is back? Can someone show me where BSC relented on the lifetime ban?
Same welcher posts, full of lies. Like these:
"Trump recommended HCQ as a treatment for covid. The dems went apeshit and said he was a fool who was going to get people killed. They rushed to pressure doctors across the country to NOT prescribe HCQ to ANY patients. Even Fauci said Trump was wrong to recommend HCQ for covid. The same Fauci who in 2005 stated that HCQ was an EFFECTIVE TREATMENT FOR CORONAVIRUS. Draw your own conclusions. "
Fact: Lies about Dems pressuring Drs. to not prescribe HCQ to any patients. There were states that reserved HCQ prescriptions for its' use against RA. I doubt even that was a Dem. led effort. Fauci did zero studies on the covid 19 virus in 2005, the virus he studied did respond to HCQ, but HCQ was no more effective than the other treatments and had more side effects, thus the study was not continued any further.

I am not aware of a "legal" definition of vaccination, but since there are vaccinations for largely non-communicable diseases like tetanus, I wonder if a so-called legal definition could include verbiage about transmission. Certainly vaccines for many diseases do curtail transmission ie smallpox.
 
Welcher is back? Can someone show me where BSC relented on the lifetime ban?
Same welcher posts, full of lies. Like these:
"Trump recommended HCQ as a treatment for covid. The dems went apeshit and said he was a fool who was going to get people killed. They rushed to pressure doctors across the country to NOT prescribe HCQ to ANY patients. Even Fauci said Trump was wrong to recommend HCQ for covid. The same Fauci who in 2005 stated that HCQ was an EFFECTIVE TREATMENT FOR CORONAVIRUS. Draw your own conclusions. "
Fact: Lies about Dems pressuring Drs. to not prescribe HCQ to any patients. There were states that reserved HCQ prescriptions for its' use against RA. I doubt even that was a Dem. led effort. Fauci did zero studies on the covid 19 virus in 2005, the virus he studied did respond to HCQ, but HCQ was no more effective than the other treatments and had more side effects, thus the study was not continued any further.

I am not aware of a "legal" definition of vaccination, but since there are vaccinations for largely non-communicable diseases like tetanus, I wonder if a so-called legal definition could include verbiage about transmission. Certainly vaccines for many diseases do curtail transmission ie smallpox.
You didn’t really think he would honor his bet, did you?

Famous last words.

“Done and done. Goodbye guys.”

: Ghost’s tearful goodbye Jan 20.
 
What did the Trump administration do to help it get done in record speed?
You're serious aren't you?

It is the most remarkable achievement in modern medicine, made possible by following the model of the World War II mobilization effort. That model rests on three principles.



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Show me where i ever stood up for Fauci?

I never said you did. I pointed out that YOU are pointing out that Trump was the one that got it right on the timeline for when the vaccines would be available, and Fauci got it wrong.

Glad you can see that, been trying to make @Nolec wake up for a year now LOL

Still waiting to hear about your 'first hand knowledge'.
 
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Welcher is back? Can someone show me where BSC relented on the lifetime ban?
Same welcher posts, full of lies. Like these:
"Trump recommended HCQ as a treatment for covid. The dems went apeshit and said he was a fool who was going to get people killed. They rushed to pressure doctors across the country to NOT prescribe HCQ to ANY patients. Even Fauci said Trump was wrong to recommend HCQ for covid. The same Fauci who in 2005 stated that HCQ was an EFFECTIVE TREATMENT FOR CORONAVIRUS. Draw your own conclusions. "
Fact: Lies about Dems pressuring Drs. to not prescribe HCQ to any patients. There were states that reserved HCQ prescriptions for its' use against RA. I doubt even that was a Dem. led effort. Fauci did zero studies on the covid 19 virus in 2005, the virus he studied did respond to HCQ, but HCQ was no more effective than the other treatments and had more side effects, thus the study was not continued any further.

I am not aware of a "legal" definition of vaccination, but since there are vaccinations for largely non-communicable diseases like tetanus, I wonder if a so-called legal definition could include verbiage about transmission. Certainly vaccines for many diseases do curtail transmission ie smallpox.

Of course you aren't aware of what a vaccine is. That's why you still think we have a vaccine for the flu LMAO!

Hint: If it's a vaccine, you don't have to take it every year, you only take it once LMAO!

These aren't vaccines, that's why Fauci said you will still have to wear a mask after being jabbed. That's because he knows you can still spread covid AFTER getting the shot.

That proves it's not a vaccine. Or that Fauci is a moron. Either way, we know @Nolec and @kalimgoodman won't call him out on it.

BOLD PREDICTION: Eventually we will be told that FURTHER STUDIES FIND that the covid 'vaccine' needs to be taken every X number of years'.

Wait and see. Sheep will still nod along.
 
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But but but....what about that wonderful new 'technology' AKA that thingie that permanently alters your DNA???

Sheep nod along. Just take the damn shot!!!
 
Welcher is back? Can someone show me where BSC relented on the lifetime ban?
Same welcher posts, full of lies. Like these:
"Trump recommended HCQ as a treatment for covid. The dems went apeshit and said he was a fool who was going to get people killed. They rushed to pressure doctors across the country to NOT prescribe HCQ to ANY patients. Even Fauci said Trump was wrong to recommend HCQ for covid. The same Fauci who in 2005 stated that HCQ was an EFFECTIVE TREATMENT FOR CORONAVIRUS. Draw your own conclusions. "
Fact: Lies about Dems pressuring Drs. to not prescribe HCQ to any patients. There were states that reserved HCQ prescriptions for its' use against RA. I doubt even that was a Dem. led effort. Fauci did zero studies on the covid 19 virus in 2005, the virus he studied did respond to HCQ, but HCQ was no more effective than the other treatments and had more side effects, thus the study was not continued any further.

I am not aware of a "legal" definition of vaccination, but since there are vaccinations for largely non-communicable diseases like tetanus, I wonder if a so-called legal definition could include verbiage about transmission. Certainly vaccines for many diseases do curtail transmission ie smallpox.
Oh god, here we go
 
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Of course you aren't aware of what a vaccine is. That's why you still think we have a vaccine for the flu LMAO!

Hint: If it's a vaccine, you don't have to take it every year, you only take it once LMAO!

These aren't vaccines, that's why Fauci said you will still have to wear a mask after being jabbed. That's because he knows you can still spread covid AFTER getting the shot.

That proves it's not a vaccine. Or that Fauci is a moron. Either way, we know @Nolec and @kalimgoodman won't call him out on it.

BOLD PREDICTION: Eventually we will be told that FURTHER STUDIES FIND that the covid 'vaccine' needs to be taken every X number of years'.

Wait and see. Sheep will still nod along.
NullC should get his measles, smallpox and polio immunization vaccines annually. That's what's wrong with him............that and his mama dropped him on head annually until he was 12 since the first time didn't work out so well. 😂
 
NullC should get his measles, smallpox and polio immunization vaccines annually. That's what's wrong with him............that and his mama dropped him on head annually until he was 12 since the first time didn't work out so well. 😂
He needs to have the Chinese anal swab him first just because 😂
 
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You didn’t really think he would honor his bet, did you?

Famous last words.

“Done and done. Goodbye guys.”

: Ghost’s tearful goodbye Jan 20.
Come on bub. I was trying the to do the best to get along with you. I even let your stock pick for me.
But let it gooooooooooooooooo. We all decicide for ourselves.
 
Of course you aren't aware of what a vaccine is. That's why you still think we have a vaccine for the flu LMAO!

Hint: If it's a vaccine, you don't have to take it every year, you only take it once LMAO!

These aren't vaccines, that's why Fauci said you will still have to wear a mask after being jabbed. That's because he knows you can still spread covid AFTER getting the shot.

That proves it's not a vaccine. Or that Fauci is a moron. Either way, we know @Nolec and @kalimgoodman won't call him out on it.

BOLD PREDICTION: Eventually we will be told that FURTHER STUDIES FIND that the covid 'vaccine' needs to be taken every X number of years'.

Wait and see. Sheep will still nod along.

I don't care about Fauci. I never said anything about him ever. Why do you think I care about Fauci or like him? I'm so freaking confused why you're tagging me on Fauci stuff.
 
You're serious aren't you?

It is the most remarkable achievement in modern medicine, made possible by following the model of the World War II mobilization effort. That model rests on three principles.



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The article focuses on distribution, which I said. So thanks for sharing and proving my point.
 
The article focuses on distribution, which I said. So thanks for sharing and proving my point.
Don't be that moron. Widespread distribution wasn't even underway while Trump was in office. It had barely just begun, it had barely been even rolled out. Remember, brain dead Biden tried to take credit for distribution when he'd already be vaccinated and claimed Trump had not been responsible for it......Hiden not even sworn in yet.

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Don't be that moron. Widespread distribution wasn't even underway while Trump was in office. It had barely just begun, it had barely been even rolled out. Remember, brain dead Biden tried to take credit for distribution when he'd already be vaccinated and claimed Trump had not been responsible for it......Hiden not even sworn in yet.

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I gave him credit for that. Everyone should

FYI, brain dead Biden beat your guy butt, in a landslide LMAO! 🤣
 
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