Michigan's fans thoughts on the game...

[Gator Fever]

Harbaugh will roll with what he has. At SF he had a QB who broke a NFL record for most rushing yards. Luck ran for over 800 yards in one season at Stanford. The problem UM has had the last couple years is the talent at O line just was not there. UM graduated three seniors and not one was drafted. If you do not have a good line does not matter what your rushing concept is if up against an elite team.

Not saying he isn't a good coach but in SF what happened when the defenses adapted to Kap? Stanford was about the most hard nosed football any PAC 12 team was running that I remember. He did make it work really well however.

I agree he is trying to build a certain way and that is smash mouth football for the most part at Michigan. You didn't see any big adjustments that I remember against OSU or FSU when they were controlling that run game where he all at once had these exotic pass routes all over the place. It just seemed he threw it more against FSU because the run game wasn't being that effective.

I give him credit for being a top coach but I still think he has a certain mindset offensively especially at these last 2 college stops.

 

[Michi_Gator]

I know you don't think he's overrated just more speaking of other people. I agree he needs to win something big but considering where Michigan was I can't see how anybody could not think he hasn't done a great job. For example look at how much he closed the gap between them and Ohio St. in one year. Ohio St. is still significantly more talented than them and had to hold on to dear life on their homefield with Speight at QB for Michigan. Lot of people are gonna eat crow in another year or two is my guess.

IF he beats OSU this year he is fully there because as long as him and Urb are at their respective schools there will likely never again be the talent/experience gap OSU holds this year.

He is also facing a 90s SECe or current SECw situation in that the 3 best teams and coaches are all in the same division (and its not close). But that said it takes me back to Michigan and its fanbase who wants realignment because its not 'fair'. lol, under that premise every conference would be realigning divisions every 3 years. But yes, Michigan has advocated for realignment to make sure they aren't with PSU and OSU. Even though Michigan initially demanded to be in a division with OSU oit of fear of having to play them twice in one year. So back to the original point, no worse fan base in America

 

[thetruth82]

IF he beats OSU this year he is fully there because as long as him and Urb are at their respective schools there will likely never again be the talent/experience gap OSU holds this year.

He is also facing a 90s SECe or current SECw situation in that the 3 best teams and coaches are all in the same division (and its not close). But that said it takes me back to Michigan and its fanbase who wants realignment because its not 'fair'. lol, under that premise every conference would be realigning divisions every 3 years. But yes, Michigan has advocated for realignment to make sure they aren't with PSU and OSU. Even though Michigan initially demanded to be in a division with OSU oit of fear of having to play them twice in one year. So back to the original point, no worse fan base in America

Lol not sure who you've been talking too but not one at Michigan wants realignment thats a complete fabrication. The B1G east is a top 2 division in CFB who'd want out of that and Michigan has always wanted to be in the same division as OSU. Seriously I'd love to hear where you heard they're "advocating for realignment" hahaha

 

[thetruth82]

This is ridiculous from beginning to end,

Here is the most ridiculous point: According to the poster, Florida's special teams are SLIGHTLY better than Michigan's. Florida has a national top 3 kicker and punter, and senior Brandon Powell returning kicks. Michigan has a new kicker, punter, kick returner and punt returner. Evidently all these kids with zero experience are every bit as good as the best special teams unit in the country. Must be because of the color of the uniform. ROFL.

Here's reality:

Florida offense>>Michigan Defense. I don't care who you have, if you have 10 new starters they have no experience playing as a unit. This equals a weak defense. Deal with the reality.

Florida Defense >>>Michigan Offense. Michigan offense replaces 3 starters from an Oline that struggled last year. Florida pass rush will abuse that Oline, making Michigan one-dimensional. One dimensional offenses are no-dimensional offenses.

Florida Special Teams>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Michigan Special Teams. ROFL. See above.

Michigan Coaches>Florida Coaches. I know this will upset the Michigan fans who still haven't wiped Harbaugh's spunk off their collective chins, but McElwain has pulled out some wins we haven't expected, while Harbaugh seems to manage to lose a game or two every year to a team that shouldn't even be on the field with them. I gave the edge to Harbaugh and Co because of the pro experience. Not really a reason, but got to throw them a bone.

I do not see a close game. I think the score will be manageable at the end if Michigan plays to keep the score low, using the entire play clock, running the ball and playing field position. But if they come out high octane, it will get ugly fast.

Hahahaha "Florida offense>>Michigan Defense." This may be a record for the craziest homer post of all time. Florida's offense was garbage last year, and Michigan returns quite a few contributers on Defense including one of the top DL in the country. Your Defense lost a ton of starters as well, and Michigan returns an exponential better offense (which is sad really UofM, O was ok ) than anything the Gators rolled out there last year

 

[46885]

you just said last year, then said michigan returns something.... they return the least amount of anyone in every thing in the nation...

 

[PacoGator19]

Hahahaha "Florida offense>>Michigan Defense." This may be a record for the craziest homer post of all time. Florida's offense was garbage last year, and Michigan returns quite a few contributers on Defense including one of the top DL in the country. Your Defense lost a ton of starters as well, and Michigan returns an exponential better offense (which is sad really UofM, O was ok ) than anything the Gators rolled out there last year

And yet another homer post. Michigan lost more starters than any team in the country and yet all I see is how everything you say is that your returners are better than the players you lost. I guess your backups were really better than your starters last year.

 

[instaGATOR]

Hahahaha "Florida offense>>Michigan Defense." This may be a record for the craziest homer post of all time. Florida's offense was garbage last year, and Michigan returns quite a few contributers on Defense including one of the top DL in the country. Your Defense lost a ton of starters as well, and Michigan returns an exponential better offense (which is sad really UofM, O was ok ) than anything the Gators rolled out there last year

2016 is history.
2015 is ancient history, as far as current roster personal goes...

The only thing that matters is the 2017 roster.

Whoever your rush DE is, He's going to have to get around:
LT/LG Martez Ivey 6-5 315 Jr - A 5-star Outland Trophy Watch List.

LG/C Brett Heggie 6-3 330 rsFr
FL 1st Team All State - UA-AA - Nike Opening.
OR
LG/RG/C Tyler Jordan 6-4 310 Jr
FL 5A All State - UA-AA - Can play every OL position.

Manning the middle of UF's OL is:
OC T.J. McCoy 6-1 314 rsSo - Rimington Trophy Watch List.
Also named to the Wuerffel Trophy Watch List.

RG Antonio Riles 6-4 328 rsJr - Starter, injured out in Aug 2016.
Offers: UF, UA, GA, Clem, UL, MichSt, etc.
OR
RG/RT Fred Johnson 6-6 330 Jr
FL 7A All State - 2015 RT starter.

When it comes to running the ball, or the wsDE's rush:
RT Jewaan Taylor 6-5 340 So
He was a named a Fr All SEC and a Fr AA.

So I'm sure all of those Gator OL'men are just scared to death of the meatchicken's DL'men.... because playing in the SEC, they never see any good players on defense....
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As to the Gator DL
#2 DE CeCe Jefferson 6-1 242 Jr - 5-star
#2 DE Antonneous Clayton 6-2 254 So - 5-star
#3 DE Zach Carter 6-4 270 Fr
And 2-3 more DE's that are as good or better...
DE/DT Elijah Conliffe 6-4 317 Fr

NT Khairi Clark 6-2 315 rsJr
DT Taven Bryan 6-5 291 rsJr
DT Kyree Campbell 6-3 305 Fr-EE
NT/OT Tedarrell Slaton 6-4 358 Fr

The 2015 #8 Gator D lost 5 to the NFL draft, including 2 1st Rnd DB's.
The 2016 #5 Gator D lost 7 to the NFL draft, a 1st Rnd LB, and 2 2nd DB's.
This is not new for UF, the next guys just move into starter spots and go.

And at least the Gator homers are not on the Meatchicken's board, telling them how little talent they have for 2017, like the meechecan't homers are mouthing off here....

 

[vic.valiant]

He is also facing a 90s SECe or current SECw situation in that the 3 best teams and coaches are all in the same division (and its not close). But that said it takes me back to Michigan and its fanbase who wants realignment because its not 'fair'. lol, under that premise every conference would be realigning divisions every 3 years. But yes, Michigan has advocated for realignment to make sure they aren't with PSU and OSU. Even though Michigan initially demanded to be in a division with OSU oit of fear of having to play them twice in one year. So back to the original point, no worse fan base in America

BS.

Go Blue!

 

[thetruth82]

And yet another homer post. Michigan lost more starters than any team in the country and yet all I see is how everything you say is that your returners are better than the players you lost. I guess your backups were really better than your starters last year.

And Florida lost a bunch of starters on D but they'll stifle what was a much better Michigan Offense than florida, and somehow a putrid Florida O will now be unstoppable? How? You point out Michigan's defensive losses ( they return 2 of there top 4 dlineman as far as snaps played and there best LB) but then completely ignore your own d losses, thats as homer as you can get.

 

[thetruth82]

2016 is history.
2015 is ancient history, as far as current roster personal goes...

The only thing that matters is the 2017 roster.

Whoever your rush DE is, He's going to have to get around:
LT/LG Martez Ivey 6-5 315 Jr - A 5-star Outland Trophy Watch List.

LG/C Brett Heggie 6-3 330 rsFr
FL 1st Team All State - UA-AA - Nike Opening.
OR
LG/RG/C Tyler Jordan 6-4 310 Jr
FL 5A All State - UA-AA - Can play every OL position.

Manning the middle of UF's OL is:
OC T.J. McCoy 6-1 314 rsSo - Rimington Trophy Watch List.
Also named to the Wuerffel Trophy Watch List.

RG Antonio Riles 6-4 328 rsJr - Starter, injured out in Aug 2016.
Offers: UF, UA, GA, Clem, UL, MichSt, etc.
OR
RG/RT Fred Johnson 6-6 330 Jr
FL 7A All State - 2015 RT starter.

When it comes to running the ball, or the wsDE's rush:
RT Jewaan Taylor 6-5 340 So
He was a named a Fr All SEC and a Fr AA.

So I'm sure all of those Gator OL'men are just scared to death of the meatchicken's DL'men.... because playing in the SEC, they never see any good players on defense....
============

As to the Gator DL
#2 DE CeCe Jefferson 6-1 242 Jr - 5-star
#2 DE Antonneous Clayton 6-2 254 So - 5-star
#3 DE Zach Carter 6-4 270 Fr
And 2-3 more DE's that are as good or better...
DE/DT Elijah Conliffe 6-4 317 Fr

NT Khairi Clark 6-2 315 rsJr
DT Taven Bryan 6-5 291 rsJr
DT Kyree Campbell 6-3 305 Fr-EE
NT/OT Tedarrell Slaton 6-4 358 Fr

The 2015 #8 Gator D lost 5 to the NFL draft, including 2 1st Rnd DB's.
The 2016 #5 Gator D lost 7 to the NFL draft, a 1st Rnd LB, and 2 2nd DB's.
This is not new for UF, the next guys just move into starter spots and go.

And at least the Gator homers are not on the Meatchicken's board, telling them how little talent they have for 2017, like the meechecan't homers are mouthing off here....

Holy Homer, hahaha. Florida Oline was poor last year but now they're a unit to be worried about? Michigan's Dline is consider by multiple pundits as one of the top 5 in the nation, how do outsiders view at your Oline? Why would anyone be afraid of a Florida Offense that was one of the worst in the power 5 conferences last year? Really you brag about returning some guys on O but they formed one of the worst offenses in Division 1, only someone with a ridiculously homer bias would act like there some formidable juggernaut.

 

[thetruth82]

And yet another homer post. Michigan lost more starters than any team in the country and yet all I see is how everything you say is that your returners are better than the players you lost. I guess your backups were really better than your starters last year.

Florida returns a bunch of starters from a Terrible Offense, are you telling me there now going to form some formidable unit. Can you explain why id love to hear it

 

[Gator Fever]

And Florida lost a bunch of starters on D but they'll stifle what was a much better Michigan Offense than florida, and somehow a putrid Florida O will now be unstoppable? How? You point out Michigan's defensive losses ( they return 2 of there top 4 dlineman as far as snaps played and there best LB) but then completely ign

You are ragging on our 2016 offense but we threw for more yards per game than Michigan did and I thought Harbaugh could adapt to anything on offense. Why didn't he adapt better to OSU and FSU slowing that run game down big time?

 

[thetruth82]

And yet another homer post. Michigan lost more starters than any team in the country and yet all I see is how everything you say is that your returners are better than the players you lost. I guess your backups were really better than your starters last year.

Please point to where I said the returning players are better than what we lost. You can't because I didn't.

You are ragging on our 2016 offense but we threw for more yards per game than Michigan did and I thought Harbaugh could adapt to anything on offense. Why didn't he adapt better to OSU and FSU slowing that run game down big time?

How did Floridas O adapt to FSU, and Bama? Are you trying to tell me Floridas passing offense was better? Michigan's offense was considered by all to be better than Floridas in all facets last year is that even debatable? I've never said UofM going to dominate, simply laughing at your fellow Florida fans posting about how each of Floridas units are superior (because?) and are going to collectively roll Michigan. That's a homer take that the majority of CFB analysts and fans (really everyone outside of the Irrational) disagree with

 

[Gator Fever]

Please point to where I said the returning players are better than what we lost. You can't because I didn't.

How did Floridas O adapt to FSU, and Bama? Are you trying to tell me Floridas passing offense was better? Michigan's offense was considered by all to be better than Floridas in all facets last year is that even debatable? I've never said UofM going to dominate, simply laughing at your fellow Florida fans posting about how each of Floridas units are superior (because?) and are going to collectively roll Michigan. That's a homer take that the majority of CFB analysts and fans (really everyone outside of the Irrational) disagree with

P yards/game

# 79 Florida
# 85 Michigan

Florida also faced better pass defenses overall than Michigan.

I don't think we are going to roll Michigan. I think it will probably be close either way.

 

[thetruth82]

No he

P yards/game

# 79 Florida
# 85 Michigan

Florida also faced better pass defenses overall than Michigan.

I don't think we are going to roll Michigan. I think it will probably be close either way.

Overall Michigan's pass O had better stats, better yards per att, higher passer rating, better completion %, less turnovers. Pass yards don't really tell the story. Michigan also led FBS in scoring margin so I'd guess the need to pass the ball was lessened while leading by alot, and had a much better rushing offense. Regardless I agree the game is likely to be close one way or another.

 

[instaGATOR]

Florida returns a bunch of starters from a Terrible Offense, are you telling me there now going to form some formidable unit. Can you explain why id love to hear it

Just the tip of the 2016 offense injury iceberg for ya.
Lost the starting RG for the season in Aug.
Then lost the backup RG when he had to move to OC.
Lost the starting OC, then lost the 2nd OC/RG, then played a 3rd string rsFr.
Spent the entire season shuffling the OL around to get 5 healthy on the field.

Starting QB went down, then played the Purdue backup.
Then the starting QB returned, only to go down injured again, forcing the backup to finish out the season.

A major piece of the planned out offense (Massey) went down on the opening KR to begin the season. Here is a brief study for ya on that subject.

GAINESVILLE, Fla. — A year ago, the newcomer generating the most buzz in Florida’s preseason camp was a slot receiver, KR'er, and former high school QB named Dre Massey (4.35/40). “I think the thing about him is his versatility to do a lot of different things,” McElwain said. “Everything from punt to throw to handle it carrying it out of the backfield. There’s a lot of different things, and he’s one of those guys that you can use in a lot of different situations.”

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/dre-massey-ready-to-prove-himself-for-gators-after-juco-detour

A torn ACL on the 1st play (KR) of the season opener brought the hype train to a halt, but he’ll get his chance to prove he's recovered and every bit as dynamic this fall.

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/florida-gators-football-dre-massey-torn-acl-recovery

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Meanwhile, in much the same way, the newcomer generating the most buzz in fall camp this year for the Gators is a slot WR and former HS QB-DT named Kadarius Toney. “This guy is something,” coach Jim McElwain said Monday. “He needs to touch it. It’s pretty cool to see him out there.”

Massey and Toney have a skill-set similar to that of wide receiver/running back/return specialist Percy Harvin. They can run. They can catch. They can pass. Massey can punt (40+ yds). In simplest terms, they need to be on the field and to have the ball in their hands. (iG - Which to my way of thinking, means that Zaire is not needed at QB)

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/football-dre-massey-kadarius-toney-x-factor

Your meatchickens won't be playing the 2016 Gator offense, just in case that fact hasn't settled in for ya yet,,,, dumb-azz...

 

[46885]

lol only a michigan fan could believe that their new players coming back are better off than so many of ours returning along with the new ones being better than theirs on top of it...


if we lose it's because we beat ourselves and give the game away with turnovers and still have zero QB or OL play...

 

[thetruth82]

lol only a michigan fan could believe that their new players coming back are better off than so many of ours returning along with the new ones being better than theirs on top of it...


if we lose it's because we beat ourselves and give the game away with turnovers and still have zero QB or OL play...

Vegas must believe you'll still have zero QB or Oline play. No Michigan fans think all the newcomers will be better than some of players lost from the #1 D in the nation last year, but they don't have to be to beat the returning Florida starters from the 113 ranked offense

Just the tip of the 2016 offense injury iceberg for ya.
Lost the starting RG for the season in Aug.
Then lost the backup RG when he had to move to OC.
Lost the starting OC, then lost the 2nd OC/RG, then played a 3rd string rsFr.
Spent the entire season shuffling the OL around to get 5 healthy on the field.

Starting QB went down, then played the Purdue backup.
Then the starting QB returned, only to go down injured again, forcing the backup to finish out the season.

A major piece of the planned out offense (Massey) went down on the opening KR to begin the season. Here is a brief study for ya on that subject.

GAINESVILLE, Fla. — A year ago, the newcomer generating the most buzz in Florida’s preseason camp was a slot receiver, KR'er, and former high school QB named Dre Massey (4.35/40). “I think the thing about him is his versatility to do a lot of different things,” McElwain said. “Everything from punt to throw to handle it carrying it out of the backfield. There’s a lot of different things, and he’s one of those guys that you can use in a lot of different situations.”

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/dre-massey-ready-to-prove-himself-for-gators-after-juco-detour

A torn ACL on the 1st play (KR) of the season opener brought the hype train to a halt, but he’ll get his chance to prove he's recovered and every bit as dynamic this fall.

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/florida-gators-football-dre-massey-torn-acl-recovery

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Meanwhile, in much the same way, the newcomer generating the most buzz in fall camp this year for the Gators is a slot WR and former HS QB-DT named Kadarius Toney. “This guy is something,” coach Jim McElwain said Monday. “He needs to touch it. It’s pretty cool to see him out there.”

Massey and Toney have a skill-set similar to that of wide receiver/running back/return specialist Percy Harvin. They can run. They can catch. They can pass. Massey can punt (40+ yds). In simplest terms, they need to be on the field and to have the ball in their hands. (iG - Which to my way of thinking, means that Zaire is not needed at QB)

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/football-dre-massey-kadarius-toney-x-factor

Your meatchickens won't be playing the 2016 Gator offense, just in case that fact hasn't settled in for ya yet,,,, dumb-azz...

Homer gonna homer I guess. Youre hopeful the offense will be exponentially better, just like I'm hopeful UofMs D will be good. The only difference is Michigans D HAS been VERY GOOD so there is actual reasons to be optimistic with a lot of experience in the front 7, Florida's O HAS been POOR, so these returners need to completely turn it around and not continue to be ranked 100+ in total offense

 

[46885]

Vegas thinks they set lines to get equal action and the first week lines are always off and have the greatest value until the bowl season... Michigan is favored and ranked highly based on last years team, same shit every year... then the betting public gets pockets robbed clean from not knowing enough about what makes teams win or lose in football while listening to more guys in suits that don't know either...

 

[thetruth82]

Vegas thinks they set lines to get equal action and the first week lines are always off and have the greatest value until the bowl season... Michigan is favored and ranked highly based on last years team, same shit every year... then the betting public gets pockets robbed clean from not knowing enough about what makes teams win or lose in football while listening to more guys in suits that don't know either...

Hahahaha whatever makes you feel better, Vegas doesn't believe in your offense and rightfully so, it needs to actually produce in some meaningful way at some point before anyone will take the homer talk of how great Florida Offense will be (stated here repeatedly) seriously

 

[instaGATOR]

Vegas must believe you'll still have zero QB or Oline play. No Michigan fans think all the newcomers will be better than some of players lost from the #1 D in the nation last year, but they don't have to be to beat the returning Florida starters from the 113 ranked offense

Meatchicken Homer gonna homer I guess.

And go to someone else's house to do it, proving their own high class...

I see that you failed to read or understand what I posted about last years offensive injury woes. Probably because you're to busy being an azzwipe homer yourself.

Gator's in 2015 still had the #8 D in the nation with a full staff turnover.
Then they lost 5 to the NFL draft, so that killed them, right?

Except that in 2016, they had the #5 D in the nation.
Then they lost 7 more to the NFL draft, so that will kill them this time?

We all hope that you, your players, and your coaches are counting on that...

 

[thetruth82]

And go to someone else's house to do it, proving their own high class...

I see that you failed to read or understand what I posted about last years offensive injury woes. Probably because you're to busy being an azzwipe homer yourself.

Gator's in 2015 still had the #8 D in the nation with a full staff turnover.
Then they lost 5 to the NFL draft, so that killed them, right?

Except that in 2016, they had the #5 D in the nation.
Then they lost 7 more to the NFL draft, so that will kill them this time?

We all hope that you, your players, and your coaches are counting on that...

Wait 2015 doesn't count you've said that repeatedly. (Even if it did your 2015 D got lit up for 41 points against UofM, it wasn't that good)
You're D was good last year, Michigan s was better #1 D in the nation we did lose more to the draft though.

How was your Offense last year? One of the worst in the power 5 conferences, where do you think it will be ranked this year. Gonna break the top 100

 

[Gator Fever]

Hahahaha whatever makes you feel better, Vegas doesn't believe in your offense and rightfully so, it needs to actually produce in some meaningful way at some point before anyone will take the homer talk of how great Florida Offense will be (stated here repeatedly) seriously

Well a little talk before a game never hurt anybody. I want to see our offense show it before I am a true believer we have turned the corner big time but I think it has to get better after last year. The QB that starts will probably determine a lot.

 

[instaGATOR]

Wait 2015 doesn't count you've said that repeatedly. (Even if it did your 2015 D got lit up for 41 points against UofM, it wasn't that good)
You're D was good last year, Michigan s was better #1 D in the nation we did lose more to the draft though.

How was your Offense last year? One of the worst in the power 5 conferences, where do you think it will be ranked this year. Gonna break the top 100

The meatchicken crap never ends here does it? (rhetorical)

Prove to me that you actually know something about football in general, or Gator football in specific:
~ List for me the injured players over the last 2 seasons.
~ List for me the starters that were missing in the 2015 Bowl game.
(some were injured, some others bailed out to prepare for the NFL Combo)

IF none of those things matter in your estimation, then continue to live on the national rankings that are full of your kind of massive ignorance.

And if you're so sure about the outcome, then cash in your bonds and bet the farm on the games outcome. Otherwise, you're just another rival homer mouth-runner....

 

[thetruth82]

The meatchicken crap never ends here does it? (rhetorical)

Prove to me that you actually know something about football in general, or Gator football in specific:
~ List for me the injured players over the last 2 seasons.
~ List for me the starters that were missing in the 2015 Bowl game.
(some were injured, some others bailed out to prepare for the NFL Combo)

IF none of those things matter in your estimation, then continue to live on the national rankings that are full of your kind of massive ignorance.

And if you're so sure about the outcome, then cash in your bonds and bet the farm on the games outcome. Otherwise, you're just another rival homer mouth-runner....

Wait you've been telling me all about Michigans roster, when in fact you know nothing about it. I'm here talking about results, your talking about hope.

 

[thetruth82]

Well a little talk before a game never hurt anybody. I want to see our offense show it before I am a true believer we have turned the corner big time but I think it has to get better after last year. The QB that starts will probably determine a lot.

No worries I'm just getting into it with a few obvious homers here. My guess it'll be a close game. Should be a good one to watch

 

[instaGATOR]

Wait you've been telling me all about Michigans roster, when in fact you know nothing about it. I'm here talking about results, your talking about hope.

Outright liar there, I don't know anything about the meatchickens roster, nor do I care in the least about it. I can't name a single player on your team. I do know that the hardblow is you coach though...

I have been talking about and posting UF's current roster.
UF has 9 Preseason All SEC Team members covering 10 different positions.
UF has 12 players on Preseason Watch Lists, plus McElwain on the Dodd.

Now, how about you give me the same for your meatchickens.
All BigTen/12/whatever Teamers.
Meatchicken Watch list players.
Is the hardblow on any watch lists?

Or you can continue to be the meatchicken's version of a village idiot here.

 

[thetruth82]

Outright liar there, I don't know anything about the meatchickens roster, nor do I care in the least about it. I can't name a single player on your team. I do know that the hardblow is you coach though...

I have been talking about and posting UF's current roster.
UF has 9 Preseason All SEC Team members covering 10 different positions.
UF has 12 players on Preseason Watch Lists, plus McElwain on the Dodd.

Now, how about you give me the same for your meatchickens.
All BigTen/12/whatever Teamers.
Meatchicken Watch list players.
Is the hardblow on any watch lists?

Or you can continue to be the meatchicken's version of a village idiot here.

Wait you think preseason awards mean anything hahahahahaha. I've never looked at the watch lists because they literally mean nothing. I've been talking about the fact your Offense has been poor which is undeniable. I'd let your Offense actually produce something/anything before I'd be spouting off how great they are as you've been

 

[thetruth82]

Outright liar there, I don't know anything about the meatchickens roster, nor do I care in the least about it. I can't name a single player on your team. I do know that the hardblow is you coach though...

I have been talking about and posting UF's current roster.
UF has 9 Preseason All SEC Team members covering 10 different positions.
UF has 12 players on Preseason Watch Lists, plus McElwain on the Dodd.

Now, how about you give me the same for your meatchickens.
All BigTen/12/whatever Teamers.
Meatchicken Watch list players.
Is the hardblow on any watch lists?

Or you can continue to be the meatchicken's version of a village idiot here.

Hahahaha watchlists, and pre season awards? Completely meaningless have your offense do something/anything and then maybe talk them up but to date Florida Offense under the swamp donkey has been awful and ranked in the triple digits, they've actually have to prove they can function and not be a liability which they've never done.

I looked it up BTW Michigan has 10 pre season all B1G selections.
10 on watch lists. Pretty good for a young team

 

[Gator Fever]

I can't wait for this game to get here.

 

[TennesseeGator]

Just the tip of the 2016 offense injury iceberg for ya.
Lost the starting RG for the season in Aug.
Then lost the backup RG when he had to move to OC.
Lost the starting OC, then lost the 2nd OC/RG, then played a 3rd string rsFr.
Spent the entire season shuffling the OL around to get 5 healthy on the field.

Starting QB went down, then played the Purdue backup.
Then the starting QB returned, only to go down injured again, forcing the backup to finish out the season.

A major piece of the planned out offense (Massey) went down on the opening KR to begin the season. Here is a brief study for ya on that subject.

GAINESVILLE, Fla. — A year ago, the newcomer generating the most buzz in Florida’s preseason camp was a slot receiver, KR'er, and former high school QB named Dre Massey (4.35/40). “I think the thing about him is his versatility to do a lot of different things,” McElwain said. “Everything from punt to throw to handle it carrying it out of the backfield. There’s a lot of different things, and he’s one of those guys that you can use in a lot of different situations.”

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/dre-massey-ready-to-prove-himself-for-gators-after-juco-detour

A torn ACL on the 1st play (KR) of the season opener brought the hype train to a halt, but he’ll get his chance to prove he's recovered and every bit as dynamic this fall.

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/florida-gators-football-dre-massey-torn-acl-recovery

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Meanwhile, in much the same way, the newcomer generating the most buzz in fall camp this year for the Gators is a slot WR and former HS QB-DT named Kadarius Toney. “This guy is something,” coach Jim McElwain said Monday. “He needs to touch it. It’s pretty cool to see him out there.”

Massey and Toney have a skill-set similar to that of wide receiver/running back/return specialist Percy Harvin. They can run. They can catch. They can pass. Massey can punt (40+ yds). In simplest terms, they need to be on the field and to have the ball in their hands. (iG - Which to my way of thinking, means that Zaire is not needed at QB)

https://www.seccountry.com/florida/football-dre-massey-kadarius-toney-x-factor

Your meatchickens won't be playing the 2016 Gator offense, just in case that fact hasn't settled in for ya yet,,,, dumb-azz...

Just curious why you wouldn't like to see Toney, Massey, AND Zaire on the field at the same time? Two can pass, catch, and run..one can pass and run.

The more playmakers the better.

I'm not touting Zaire as the 100% QB every snap but I hope the staff takes advantage of his athletic abilities as they do Toney's, Massey's, and all players who earn playing time.

 

[Michi_Gator]

Just curious why you wouldn't like to see Toney, Massey, AND Zaire on the field at the same time? Two can pass, catch, and run..one can pass and run.

The more playmakers the better.

I'm not touting Zaire as the 100% QB every snap but I hope the staff takes advantage of his athletic abilities as they do Toney's, Massey's, and all players who earn playing time.

You know the answer to your question

 

[46885]

You know the answer to your question

color paint by number?

 

[instaGATOR]

Just curious why you wouldn't like to see Toney, Massey, AND Zaire on the field at the same time? Two can pass, catch, and run..one can pass and run.

The more playmakers the better.

I'm not touting Zaire as the 100% QB every snap but I hope the staff takes advantage of his athletic abilities as they do Toney's, Massey's, and all players who earn playing time.

TG, we all as fans, have our expectations and our favorite student/athletes.
Everyone has an opinion, and by definition, opinions are not right or wrong.

My 'opinion' is that Trask at 6-5 239 with 4.6 speed and a 70% completion rate should be getting whatever time that Zaire is getting, for many reasons and on many levels. That's the same opinion that I had last season with respect to Grad-xfer Happybe. That's my OPINION to which I'm entitled. So far, I've seen nor read anything to change my opinion of the situation.... (the usual circle of jerks claim I didn't want Zaire because he's black, while they ignore the FACT that my opinion of Grad-xfer Happyby was exactly the same,,, typical of them).

However, the Gator coaches are doing whatever they are doing for their own reasons, whatever those are. Me not agreeing with them is NBD in the scheme of things, and it's not the 1st time that I've ever disagreed with what a Gator coach is doing, in this or in any other Gator sport.

The fact is, they (coaches) don't have to bother with any of my opinions or expectations, just like I don't have to bother with those of other fans, ours or our rivals.

I claim no clairvoyance on which opinions would work out for the best in the long run, it's just my opinions, desires, and wishes, nothing more...

 

[instaGATOR]

Hahahaha watchlists, and pre season awards? Completely meaningless have your offense do something/anything and then maybe talk them up but to date Florida Offense under the swamp donkey has been awful and ranked in the triple digits, they've actually have to prove they can function and not be a liability which they've never done.

I looked it up BTW Michigan has 10 pre season all B1G selections.
10 on watch lists. Pretty good for a young team

Meatchicken, you keep going on about previous years ratings, that cover 128 teams that don't play UF's schedule, and you want to ignore the results of team wide injuries, while you claim to put no stock in All SEC teams or preseason Watch Lists.... Now that makes perfect delusional rival homer fan sense to me...

Here, chew on this,,, and then you can duck & dodge the facts some more while spewing out your ignorant idiot chit for us to all laugh at.....

The Gators lose 7 to the NFL off the 2016 team, after losing 5 after 2015, but I'm not worried about the defense for 2017? Maybe there are reasons.

"I'm sure they're people who think we're too young or too inexperienced and that's OK. That's something we can handle, probably something we deserve," MLB Reese said. "But we're a program that has a next-man-up mentality. That's the sign of a truly great program. We're going to hold ourselves to [high] expectations and we'll perform to them."

http://floridagators.com/news/2017/...sitioned-reeses-readiness-a-credit-to-jd.aspx

Note: Two of the Gator's 3 young starting LB's were Prep QB's, smart guys that know football. OLB Johnson 6-2 236 rsSo & MLB Reese 6-1 239 So.

The 3rd, OLB Vosean Joseph 6-1 227 So. He was a Florida 2015 6A 1st-Team All-State senior. He played on the 2016 U.S. Under-19 National Team in the International Bowl against Canada at AT&T Stadium in Texas. Senior Season: He totaled 97 tackles, 7 sacks and 5 forced fumbles according to the Orlando Sentinel, despite missing the final 2 games of the season.

And then there's the 4th OLB Jeremiah Moon 6-6 228 rsFr. He is a TE's nightmare. He played as a true Fr in the 1st 2 games in 2016 before being injured out for the rest of the season and taking a medical redshirt. He was an Alabama Class 7A 1st-Team All-State player. He led his team to a 10-3 record as a senior reached the Class 7A State Semifinal, and he participated in the 2015 MS-AL All-Star Football Game.

Most would usually be worried about having a LB corp that was made up of a rsFr, 2 So's, and a rsSo, but I'm just excited to see them play as a group in 2017. They are replacing NFL LB's, but they have a chance to be just as good or better,,, next men up!

But then you have the worthless thugs that should be in jail, instead of being on a football team. No team is perfect I guess....
http://floridagators.com/news/2017/8/4/chris-harry-walk-on-garcia-walks-to-degree.aspx

 

[Gator Fever]

I see Mattison is at Michigan now.

 

[46885]

Mattison has been there for at least 3-4 years and a big part of their success I guarantee it...

 

[Dannygator1989]

I see Mattison is at Michigan now.

There's great video of him at a bowl game a few years ago on the sideline doing some bizarre call to the field where it looks like he's angrily jacking off followed by aggressively shoving dick into his mouth.

I'm not kidding.

 

[LizardGrad89]

Michigan fans 2016: We have everybody back we are going to be great!

Michigan fans 2017: We have nobody back, we are going to be great!

 

[thetruth82]

Meatchicken, you keep going on about previous years ratings, that cover 128 teams that don't play UF's schedule, and you want to ignore the results of team wide injuries, while you claim to put no stock in All SEC teams or preseason Watch Lists.... Now that makes perfect delusional rival homer fan sense to me...

Here, chew on this,,, and then you can duck & dodge the facts some more while spewing out your ignorant idiot chit for us to all laugh at.....

The Gators lose 7 to the NFL off the 2016 team, after losing 5 after 2015, but I'm not worried about the defense for 2017? Maybe there are reasons.

"I'm sure they're people who think we're too young or too inexperienced and that's OK. That's something we can handle, probably something we deserve," MLB Reese said. "But we're a program that has a next-man-up mentality. That's the sign of a truly great program. We're going to hold ourselves to [high] expectations and we'll perform to them."

http://floridagators.com/news/2017/...sitioned-reeses-readiness-a-credit-to-jd.aspx

Note: Two of the Gator's 3 young starting LB's were Prep QB's, smart guys that know football. OLB Johnson 6-2 236 rsSo & MLB Reese 6-1 239 So.

The 3rd, OLB Vosean Joseph 6-1 227 So. He was a Florida 2015 6A 1st-Team All-State senior. He played on the 2016 U.S. Under-19 National Team in the International Bowl against Canada at AT&T Stadium in Texas. Senior Season: He totaled 97 tackles, 7 sacks and 5 forced fumbles according to the Orlando Sentinel, despite missing the final 2 games of the season.

And then there's the 4th OLB Jeremiah Moon 6-6 228 rsFr. He is a TE's nightmare. He played as a true Fr in the 1st 2 games in 2016 before being injured out for the rest of the season and taking a medical redshirt. He was an Alabama Class 7A 1st-Team All-State player. He led his team to a 10-3 record as a senior reached the Class 7A State Semifinal, and he participated in the 2015 MS-AL All-Star Football Game.

Most would usually be worried about having a LB corp that was made up of a rsFr, 2 So's, and a rsSo, but I'm just excited to see them play as a group in 2017. They are replacing NFL LB's, but they have a chance to be just as good or better,,, next men up!

But then you have the worthless thugs that should be in jail, instead of being on a football team. No team is perfect I guess....
http://floridagators.com/news/2017/8/4/chris-harry-walk-on-garcia-walks-to-degree.aspx

I love the talk of injuries as if UofM (lost multiple starters) had none.
You said it's not about 2016 then turn around and say your not worried about this year's D because of your 2016 & 2015 D. Well then why would I worry about the UofM D when in FACT in both 2015 and 2016 the D was better than the Florida's? Michigan has more preseason all B1G performers but I'm not talking that up because it's meaningless. The rest of the fluff you posted about LB that have yet to produce is hilarious. Michigan has prep all Americans at every position on the D too (as a whole better recruiting classes than FL) but they have to actually do something just the same as the players you're touting. And let's not forget Michigan is replacing multiple NFL players CB, S, LB, and DL as well but as you've been saying next man up.