In before the gun confiscation NUTS.....

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

They do happen every now and then.

And you have shown that you are completely irrational when it comes to guns so why would anyone waste our time trying to open your eyes to an issue that you are determined not to see?

Speaking of which, you keep claiming that guns cause problems. What are they?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

The vibe we're getting from you is "peanuts should be banned, because they "can" be dangerous. 😂

That's exactly what it is. Now peanuts are killers and should be eliminated to solve the problem of PEANUT VIOLENCE!

If @GatorTheo has an allergy to peanuts, and he eats a peanut and dies, what killed him?

A - The peanut
B - Theo eating the peanut?

 

[Capt Ron 1]

You people chant "shall not be infringed" over and over. You can't do that anymore?

We thought after telling you this 1000 times you MAY finally understand what it meant.

 

[RussellCasse]

We thought after telling you this 1000 times you MAY finally understand what it meant.

What we learned in this thread?

Some folks just have a very difficult time with vocabulary and comprehension.

And…we validated that just like folks who claim to be independents may not be, we now know there are self proclaimed “moderates” that are in fact, extremists.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

That's fine but you won't even admit that guns cause deaths. What you guys are focused on is defending guns. You will latch on to ANYTHING, no matter how ridiculous, to defend guns.

IMPOSSIBLE for a gun to "cause death" ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

But peanuts, inanimate objects, DO cause problems and I think pretty much everyone, even peanut lovers, can admit that. Gun lovers are not like that.

I'm getting the feeling that your position is: yes, guns do cause us a lot of problems but we can't limit them because they are protected by law. Like, gun problems are the price we pay for freedom.

Peanuts can cause death....but lets get back on point here, son. Do you know ANYONE on this entire planet that have deathly allergies to guns? (except you of course) Until you do...the point REMAINS...guns do not cause death. Do you disagree? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE link ANY article that proves you to be correct? I have asked you a dozen times...but no link

 

[GatorTheo]

The vibe we're getting from you is "peanuts should be banned, because they "can" be dangerous. 😂

The difference between guns and peanuts is.....no one is screaming over and over that peanuts don't kill anyone.

Apparently, there are no peanut nuts.

Is there a National Peanut Association (motto: you'll get my nuts when you pry my cold, dead hands off of them) that is directed by the peanut industry?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

The difference between guns and peanuts is.....no one is screaming over and over that peanuts don't kill anyone.

Because we all accept that in a few RARE instances, someone allergic to peanuts COULD eat one and die.

But the peanuts wouldn't be what killed them. This person EATING the peanut would be what killed them.

ANYONE can pick up a gun, point it at another person, pull the trigger and injure or kill them.

THAT is the difference between guns and peanuts.

If peanuts killed ANYONE that ate them, we would have peanut crazies running around saying rid the planet of peanuts just like we have gun crazies like you doing your thing.

 

[NavigatorII]

The difference between guns and peanuts is.....no one is screaming over and over that peanuts don't kill anyone.

Apparently, there are no peanut nuts.

Is there a National Peanut Association (motto: you'll get my nuts when you pry my cold, dead hands off of them) that is directed by the peanut industry?

National Peanut Board

nationalpeanutboard.org

MPGA!!! (making peanuts great again!! )

 

[GatorTheo]

Because we all accept that in a few RARE instances, someone allergic to peanuts COULD eat one and die.

But the peanuts wouldn't be what killed them. This person EATING the peanut would be what killed them.

ANYONE can pick up a gun, point it at another person, pull the trigger and injure or kill them.

THAT is the difference between guns and peanuts.

If peanuts killed ANYONE that ate them, we would have peanut crazies running around saying rid the planet of peanuts just like we have gun crazies like you doing your thing.

I get where you're coming from.

So cancer doesn't kill people.......getting cancer kills them. 😂

You guys will go a loooooooooooong way to defend guns.

 

[NavigatorII]

I get where you're coming from.

So cancer doesn't kill people.......getting cancer kills them. 😂

You guys will go a loooooooooooong way to defend guns.

Roundabouts never hurt anyone either. But entering one is risky business. 😂

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I get where you're coming from.

So cancer doesn't kill people.......getting cancer kills them. 😂

You guys will go a loooooooooooong way to defend guns.

You think cancer is an inanimate object?

Did you ever tell us what problems you think guns cause?

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

You guys will go a loooooooooooong way to defend guns.

We aren't defending inanimate objects, we are actually addressing the problem of violence. You are not. You are actually CONTRIBUTING to the problem.

You are obsessed with guns and think removing them removes the problems.

What problems do you think guns cause?

 

[GatorshimesDisappointingJunk]

But peanuts, inanimate objects, DO cause problems and I think pretty much everyone, even peanut lovers, can admit that. Gun lovers are not like that.

I'm getting the feeling that your position is: yes, guns do cause us a lot of problems but we can't limit them because they are protected by law. Like, gun problems are the price we pay for freedom.

They are protected FROM laws.

I believe we have a relatively low amount of collateral damage from gun violence considering how many people live in this country and how many guns we have.

You conceded that there might be 100,000 dgus a year. Well, that's twice as many defenses as deaths including suicide. The problem with gun violence is when you remove the guns from the equation, the violence remains.

Is it easier to commit violence with a gun? Certainly.

It's the evil men's hearts that does the killing, be it with a fist, or a rock, a Colt Peacemaker, or a backpack nuclear weapon.

I don't know how to reconcile to that, and that's why the solution is as nuanced as the problem.

I also believe one American dead is always too many.

I have yet to deep dive into this thread, and I will more than likely not have the time with Veterans Day coming up but there seem to be a lot of tangential discussions about trucks and inanimate objects as well as various insults that are clouding the discussion if in fact that is what this is and not a grand troll as expressed by some.

Basically, I've contributed some ten or so posts over three or so pages and I'm still unsure of what your position is.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I get where you're coming from.

So cancer doesn't kill people.......getting cancer kills them. 😂

You guys will go a loooooooooooong way to defend guns.

Sorry son...you will never understand what it means to be an American. I feel so bad for you. We do not NEED to defend guns. We have the United States Constitution that protects our rights concerning firearms...

Maybe a fascist Country would suit your lifestyle better?

 

[GatorTheo]

They are protected FROM laws.

I believe we have a relatively low amount of collateral damage from gun violence considering how many people live in this country and how many guns we have.

You conceded that there might be 100,000 dgus a year. Well, that's twice as many defenses as deaths including suicide. The problem with gun violence is when you remove the guns from the equation, the violence remains.

Is it easier to commit violence with a gun? Certainly.

It's the evil men's hearts that does the killing, be it with a fist, or a rock, a Colt Peacemaker, or a backpack nuclear weapon.

I don't know how to reconcile to that, and that's why the solution is as nuanced as the problem.

I also believe one American dead is always too many.

I have yet to deep dive into this thread, and I will more than likely not have the time with Veterans Day coming up but there seem to be a lot of tangential discussions about trucks and inanimate objects as well as various insults that are clouding the discussion if in fact that is what this is and not a grand troll as expressed by some.

Basically, I've contributed some ten or so posts over three or so pages and I'm still unsure of what your position is.

I think the combination of way too many guns and far too much social permissiveness is causing us significant problems. I want to address both of those factors.

I think gun nuts are as nutty as any group of people I've ever encountered in my long history on the internet. They are more focused on defending guns than trying to think rationally. It's a cult.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I think the combination of way too many guns and far too much social permissiveness is causing us significant problems. I want to address both of those factors.

If we have no criminals, then number of guns is irrelevant, aside from a possible increase in accidental gun injuries.

That's why it makes sense to focus on changing criminal behavior. The gun is simply a tool the criminal uses. Eliminate the criminal behavior, and you also eliminate gun violence.

Over the last 250 years in this country, there is exactly 0 instances of gun violence by law-abiding citizens.

Focus on the criminals if you want to solve the gun violence problem. Focus on the gun if you want to make the gun violence problem worse.

 

[GatorshimesDisappointingJunk]

I think the combination of way too many guns and far too much social permissiveness is causing us significant problems. I want to address both of those factors.

Too many guns is not the problem, too many guns in the hands of the wrong people is the problem.

I don't know how to get guns out of the hands of criminals and the mentally ill any other way than how we do it now, one at a time.

I think that limiting the number of guns that law abiding citizens can have is unreasonable and counter productive. Let's pretend I own one hundred firearms, if I only use them for lawful purposes, what's the problem?

I think gun nuts are as nutty as any group of people I've ever encountered in my long history on the internet. They are more focused on defending guns than trying to think rationally. It's a cult.

Are they the problem or do you just find their views distasteful? I get that some of the people in this thread are implying cowardice and stupidity on your part but you're implying insanity and lack of masculinity on theirs.

I don't see how driving an enormous truck or open carrying a Desert Eagle contributes to gun violence. Gun culture perhaps, but unless the fear you believe they are imbued with to their core causes them to shoot someone by mistake or in a manner not consistent with lawful self defense I really don't see the harm in it.

As I see it there's a tendency in this thread to laser focus on a single statement rather than examining the post as a whole which results in all concerned talking past one another.

The end game for me is how can we save American lives from gun violence without unduly burdening the citizenry at large and not violating the constitution.

I'm unwilling to throw my hands up and say there's nothing to be done, but every time one if these tragedies occur I see glaring failure on the part of government and usually can't find a law, on the books currently or that could be drafted, that could have stopped it.

There's a rot in our culture that needs to be found and excised in my humble opinion. The guns merely exacerbate moral decay and evil tendencies.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I think the combination of way too many guns and far too much social permissiveness is causing us significant problems. I want to address both of those factors.

I think gun nuts are as nutty as any group of people I've ever encountered in my long history on the internet. They are more focused on defending guns than trying to think rationally. It's a cult.

RIDICULOUS. AGAIN...you let your personal opinions control your very weak factual opinions. This is NOT the problem. Law abiding people that own guns are in the HUGE, HUGE majority of all gun ownership...and commit about 3% of the crimes. PLEASE study up on this subject you know ZERO about. One of the biggest problems is democrat DA's NOT keeping people in jail that are habitual offenders with gun crimes. As long as Soros is allowed to keep these offices with progressive DA's that refuse to keep bad people in jail...there will be a CRIME problem. What you and all the other lib democrats REFUSE to understand is that criminals will NOT follow your gun laws. If that worked...we could ban illegal drugs...then it would clear up our drug problem.

 

[GatorTheo]

RIDICULOUS. AGAIN...you let your personal opinions control your very weak factual opinions. This is NOT the problem. Law abiding people that own guns are in the HUGE, HUGE majority of all gun ownership...and commit about 3% of the crimes. PLEASE study up on this subject you know ZERO about. One of the biggest problems is democrat DA's NOT keeping people in jail that are habitual offenders with gun crimes. As long as Soros is allowed to keep these offices with progressive DA's that refuse to keep bad people in jail...there will be a CRIME problem. What you and all the other lib democrats REFUSE to understand is that criminals will NOT follow your gun laws. If that worked...we could ban illegal drugs...then it would clear up our drug problem.

I know. I get it. Yay, guns!

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

I know. I get it. Yay, guns!

Theo you are the one that's obsessed with guns, not us. Again, I don't even own one.

We want to reduce violence. You want to reduce guns.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I know. I get it. Yay, guns!

Do you think you..or I can protect our loved ones better? I KNOW the answer...can you admit it? If someone crashes your door, and you are left with the decision to be a coward..or a man, which will you choose?

 

[GatorTheo]

Do you think you..or I can protect our loved ones better? I KNOW the answer...can you admit it? If someone crashes your door, and you are left with the decision to be a coward..or a man, which will you choose?

I hate it when bad guys kick the door down.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I hate it when bad guys kick the door down.

I understand. I hate when males go around pretending to be men. You can understand that, for sure.

 

[GatorTheo]

I understand. I hate when males go around pretending to be men. You can understand that, for sure.

So your guns make you a man?

 

[Capt Ron 1]

So your guns make you a man?

Read that statement and PLEASE explain to everyone where it says that. I will check back shortly for your answer, son.

But no...the fact that I know it is my job to protect my loved ones and my NOT being afraid of an intimate object to help me do my job AS a man does. You not doing so would put you in a class that the first letter begins with a CAPITAL P. Any more questions?


Now I want to HELP you. I am going to give you a link here to help you. No..you do not have to THANK me. But I DO want to know what you notice the FIRST thing when you open this link up. I will give you a hint. (Answer is..it starts with a P)

Overcoming Gun Phobia

If you're afraid of firearms, follow these steps. When you learn how to control the gun, the gun no longer controls your fear.

www.agirlandagun.org

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Read that statement and PLEASE explain to everyone where it says that. I will check back shortly for your answer, son.

But no...the fact that I know it is my job to protect my loved ones and my NOT being afraid of an intimate object to help me do my job AS a man does. You not doing so would put you in a class that the first letter begins with a CAPITAL P. Any more questions?


Now I want to HELP you. I am going to give you a link here to help you. No..you do not have to THANK me. But I DO want to know what you notice the FIRST thing when you open this link up. I will give you a hint. (Answer is..it starts with a P)

Overcoming Gun Phobia

If you're afraid of firearms, follow these steps. When you learn how to control the gun, the gun no longer controls your fear.

www.agirlandagun.org

I'm guessing that Theo is so scared of guns that he thinks putting a gun in his home would make his home LESS safe, he's probably terrified of it going off accidentally. Which is a somewhat valid concern if someone who was terrified of a gun and not familiar with one suddenly had to handle one. He probably feels like if an armed criminal broke into his home, that he would be just as likely to shoot himself as he would be the intruder.

Of course, that fear would be easily overcome if he had proper training on handling and firing a gun, but scared people can't think straight.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

So your guns make you a man?

I'll say this, being scared of a gun would definitely hurt your sense of masculinity while being comfortable using a gun to defend your family would HELP your sense of masculinity. Agreed?

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I'm guessing that Theo is so scared of guns that he thinks putting a gun in his home would make his home LESS safe, he's probably terrified of it going off accidentally. Which is a somewhat valid concern if someone who was terrified of a gun and not familiar with one suddenly had to handle one. He probably feels like if an armed criminal broke into his home, that he would be just as likely to shoot himself as he would be the intruder.

Of course, that fear would be easily overcome if he had proper training on handling and firing a gun, but scared people can't think straight.

He would be correct. If a REAL man broke in..they would take it away and beat him with it.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

For lil Theo

 

[BCSpell]

Because we all accept that in a few RARE instances, someone allergic to peanuts COULD eat one and die.

But the peanuts wouldn't be what killed them. This person EATING the peanut would be what killed them.

ANYONE can pick up a gun, point it at another person, pull the trigger and injure or kill them.

THAT is the difference between guns and peanuts.

If peanuts killed ANYONE that ate them, we would have peanut crazies running around saying rid the planet of peanuts just like we have gun crazies like you doing your thing.

I believe neither peanuts or guns are inherently dangerous by themselves. There needs to be human interaction with them. If you have a very severe peanut allergy and you walk past a peanut, nothing happens, BUT if you touch or eat the peanut, then possible death. If you walk past a gun, nothing bad happens, until a human uses the gun to shot at you.

 

[gatordad3]

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Theo is not a fan of Ted Nugent. He loves Faith Hill and Tim McGraw as well as Bryan Adams. All gun grabbers.

 

[nail1988]

Theo is not a fan of Ted Nugent. He loves Faith Hill and Tim McGraw as well as Bryan Adams. All gun grabbers.

Im going to get Theo this poster for his man cave 🤣😭

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Theo is not a fan of Ted Nugent. He loves Faith Hill and Tim McGraw as well as Bryan Adams. All gun grabbers.

Broke back mountain! Ok I am 3/4 sloshed having cocktails on the dock,but that is funny! No offense Theo!

 

[gatordad3]

Im going to get Theo this poster for his man cave 🤣😭

No, he prefers a poster of John Legend and his Fugly wife, the pedo Taylor Swift, Marilyn Manson, Ricky Martin, Barbara Streisand, Cher, and Ellie Goulding.

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

There's a rot in our culture that needs to be found and excised in my humble opinion. The guns merely exacerbate moral decay and evil tendencies.

^^^This

 

[DCandtheUTBand]

I have been shooting guns since I was 6...no I have not killed a bear.

I used to love target shooting and honing my skill.

Did I love my guns? Nah, heck I couldn't even talk guns with most "gun" people. You got people that can tell you the minute details of ammo and guns specs.

I can not.

For me a gun is no different than a hoe or rake. Its a tool. Some people enjoy planting flowers and could care less what kind of hoe they have.

I liked hunting small game and shooting targets.

No one in gubmint knows how many or what type of guns I have. I plan on keeping it that way. Any that I acquire in the future will to the best of my ability avoid checks and paper trails. You cant come and take something you don't know about.

 

[nail1988]

No, he prefers a poster of John Legend and his Fugly wife, the pedo Taylor Swift, Marilyn Manson, Ricky Martin, Barbara Streisand, Cher, and Ellie Goulding.

 

[GatorTheo]

I'll say this, being scared of a gun would definitely hurt your sense of masculinity while being comfortable using a gun to defend your family would HELP your sense of masculinity. Agreed?

I get it. I really do. Guns are manly. Pickups too, right? Rare steak. Pitbulls? What else?

 

[GatorTheo]

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When I'm faced with complex problems involving life and death, I always wonder, what does Ted Nugent think?

Think of this for a moment, you look to Ted Nugent as a source of knowledge based totally on him being an outspoken gun advocate. Ted Nugent. That's hilarious.