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Don vs Ron

Trump said something. That gets them off the porch every time.

DeSantis being in bed with the dems? Meh....
Endorsements from Ryan and one of the richest rino hack donors on the planet. No biggie.

A guy that donates….err buys support from dems. Nothing to see.
 
Fify.

interesting that you thought “moderate” applied to you.

oh, about that ignore thing….
Interesting that you make an amateurish attempt to insult me with the AARP thing while being held 100% in thrall to a narcissist who’s several years older than I
am.
And interesting also that you aren’t quite sharp enough to catch that before you served it up...or did you just hope I wouldn’t catch it? 😉
So...if RDS is our nominee will YOU
vote for him or not?
 
What I learned ITT is that the board “moderates”. Folks that voted for kasich, carter, Romney, Mccain, etc…..still think they know what a good governing conservative is.

You really can’t make this up.

Are you saying you didn’t vote for the Republican nominees in 2008 and 2012?
I’ve never voted for Kasich or Carter but YES I voted FOR the REPUBLICAN and AGAINST Obama.

You tend to run your mouth before your brain says “slow down cowboy”. Kinda like DJT did Saturday night. Unnecessarily.
 
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Because their leader Trump did. They feel obligated to jump on board.

And they FEAR DeSantis. Which convinces me he’s on the right track.
These are people who have blindly invested in a guy who said things out loud they’ve felt. To people they resent and who they feel inferior to and always have.
If Donald is sent home then in their eyes then they think they are left with no one to say those angry things and get in the face of the folks they feel have overlooked and mistreated them all their lives.
What they don’t realize is that RDS is the one who actually grew up just like them and not in a wealthy family like DJT who’s using them the whole time.
I don’t begrudge DJT his four years but I do blame him for losing 2020 and especially losing the Senate with the way he handled the runoff in Georgia.
 
Interesting that you make an amateurish attempt to insult me with the AARP thing while being held 100% in thrall to a narcissist who’s several years older than I
am.
And interesting also that you aren’t quite sharp enough to catch that before you served it up...or did you just hope I wouldn’t catch it? 😉
So...if RDS is our nominee will YOU
vote for him or not?
No, no, no. I have been in full agreement with you on your ageism from the jump. maybe your age caused you to forget? Bless your heart.

I mean, there definitely comes a time where we probably shouldn’t let folks vote anymore. See, we both believe that with age, should come restrictions on what one should and shouldn’t be allowed to do. Hopefully you will be able to remember this.

lastly, I asked my question first. Would you still vote for Trump? You didn’t answer, yet want folks to answer you. If your answer is no, then you probably shouldn’t be asking this question. I wouldn’t want the board to believe there is hypocrisy in what you’re doing.
 
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LOL, why are you guys attacking DeSantis? This makes no sense to me.
It is crazy isn't it. Especially when Trump was fed a lie and ran with it. DeSantis will be my governor for FOUR more years and has no reason to challenge Trump. He has a big unfinished job here.

He is the governor of 22 million Floridians. He is young, he has small children, he is on the verge of running every Democrat out of statewide elected offices. When he is finished they will be contained in a little corner down in the Southeast with the Northeast transplants. And a few over in Orlando or up in Gainesville and Tallahassee. The rest of us will be FREE of Democrat influence.

DeSantis understands. So I say, Go Trump 2024 and Ron can lead us to the best four more years of our life. DeSantis is the best governor in my lifetime and I was born in Clearwater in 1943. My Dunedin boy rules.
 
LOL, why are you guys attacking DeSantis? This makes no sense to me.
I don’t think anyone is attacking him. But IF he has turned to the folks in which it appears….

If he is taking money from guys that support Obama, and having discussions with Paul Ryan and being guided by them. Houston, we got a problem.

Right now, we (me)are just observing (benefit of doubt). Just to be clear. I like Ron. I want him as Florida Governor. I potentially want him to run for Potus in 28. But we also need to watch EVERY politician.

my question to you? Why aren’t you asking this of those questioning Trump? It makes no sense.
 
It is crazy isn't it. Especially when Trump was fed a lie and ran with it. DeSantis will be my governor for FOUR more years and has no reason to challenge Trump. He has a big unfinished job here.

He is the governor of 22 million Floridians. He is young, he has small children, he is on the verge of running every Democrat out of statewide elected offices. When he is finished they will be contained in a little corner down in the Southeast with the Northeast transplants. And a few over in Orlando or up in Gainesville and Tallahassee. The rest of us will be FREE of Democrat influence.

DeSantis understands. So I say, Go Trump 2024 and Ron can lead us to the best four more years of our life. DeSantis is the best governor in my lifetime and I was born in Clearwater in 1943. My Dunedin boy rules.
Again, I don’t think I am attacking Ron. Just pointing out current events as something to watch.
 
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Question:
Should RDS become the nominee of the Republican Party will you vote for him?
It’s a yes or no question.
If you would have asked me this Friday...unequivocally I would say YES. However (and at this point I do not believe it) IF he is colluding with Paul Ryan in ANY way...the answer will forever be NO. I would be done with him on a National level.
 
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Hahahah. This guy actually thinks Trump is a conservative. The same guy who busted the federal budget, shut the country down, instituted tariffs (ie taxes on consumers), made friends with dictators, etc. Reagan must be rolling in his grave as to what the Pub Party became under Trump.
This MAY be your dumbest post...and as we ALL know....that is saying something. You may as well blame inflation, supply crisis, open borders and high crime on Trump while you are at it. I am not lying here...I feel VERY sorry for people that walk this earth with such LITTLE grasp of what is happening around them.
 
If your last sentence is spot on then it’s time for RDS. I won’t debate your other points because in some cases we’d be splitting hairs and it’s imperative that Republicans are 100% united.

Turn the page, move forward and let’s let 80 year olds enjoy their final years. Focus on the real issues the country is facing and not on revenge driven payback centered on one person.
You should be sued for age discrimination....judging someone's ability on race, religion, gender or age is not something I agree with. I do not see FJB's ability, and DJT ability to function in the same universe. And Beto is young...but give me TRUMP. You should look at people and their abilities...not all of the other things.
 
If your last sentence is spot on then it’s time for RDS. I won’t debate your other points because in some cases we’d be splitting hairs and it’s imperative that Republicans are 100% united.

Turn the page, move forward and let’s let 80 year olds enjoy their final years. Focus on the real issues the country is facing and not on revenge driven payback centered on one person.
If DeSantis is working behind the scenes with Paul Ryan...would you still support him? I would NOT. Not ever again
 
I am. If he has to be told not to snuggle with Paul Ryan and the cocktail establishment crowd at DC, then he's not half as smart as I thought he was.
I REALLY wish he would come ant and denounce Paul Ryan. Ryan is NO DIFFERENT than Hillary, McCain, Obama, Bush, etc. He needs to answer to these rumors very quickly. I just in NO WAY think DeSantis is this dumb.
 
If DeSantis is working behind the scenes with Paul Ryan...would you still support him? I would NOT. Not ever again
It's not about that. It's about Trump. She hates Trump so anything DeSantis does that Trump is complaining about is ok in her mind.

DeSantis could have an affair with hildabeast and Trump could say DeSantis as a dumb SOB for doing it, and goldmom and theo couldn't support a DeSantis/hildabeast ticket fast enough.

It's like blind Trump hate is the same as a total lobotomy for these people.
 
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I REALLY wish he would come ant and denounce Paul Ryan. Ryan is NO DIFFERENT than Hillary, McCain, Obama, Bush, etc. He needs to answer to these rumors very quickly. I just in NO WAY think DeSantis is this dumb.
Yeah Trump actually gave him a layup, say eff Ryan and the DC establishment. That would actually make Trump look like a dummy and make DeSantis look like the hero.

But instead.....we have silence that indicates Trump was right. As he always is.
 
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I don’t think anyone is attacking him. But IF he has turned to the folks in which it appears….

If he is taking money from guys that support Obama, and having discussions with Paul Ryan and being guided by them. Houston, we got a problem.

Right now, we (me)are just observing (benefit of doubt). Just to be clear. I like Ron. I want him as Florida Governor. I potentially want him to run for Potus in 28. But we also need to watch EVERY politician.

my question to you? Why aren’t you asking this of those questioning Trump? It makes no sense.

I'm not worried AT ALL about Trump or DeSantis becoming a RINO. The entire premise is silly to me.

I make it clear that I have a preference for DeSantis but that I will support either once they secure the nomination. I think any Republican who feels differently is making a huge mistake. In saying the above, I am questioning Republicans who wouldn't support Trump imo.
 
What lie was Trump fed? Are you saying Paul Ryan is NOT pushing him to run against Trump?

Would love to see your verification of this claim.
There is no evidence Ron DeSantis "met with Ryan" or anyone else to challenge Trump in 2024. Ryan mentioned DeSantis along with 3 or 4 others. DeSantis had nothing to do with it. He can't help it if someone brings up his name. DeSantis is totally opposite of Ryan and his RINO faction. I despise Paul Ryan and I would wager so does DeSantis.

Ron DeSantis has and will continue to support Trump enthusiastically. So will I. Trump should pick up the phone, if hasn't already, and square things with him. Insulting him is not smart and not wise. I don't think too highly of Trump doing that in public. It is stupid and childish.

DeSantis is running for reelection and wants to crush the DA Crist once and for all. Distractions from Trump can come after the election not 3 days before. Democrats are loving this.
 
There is no evidence Ron DeSantis "met with Ryan" or anyone else to challenge Trump in 2024. Ryan mentioned DeSantis along with 3 or 4 others. DeSantis had nothing to do with it. He can't help it if someone brings up his name. DeSantis is totally opposite of Ryan and his RINO faction. I despise Paul Ryan and I would wager so does DeSantis.

Ron DeSantis has and will continue to support Trump enthusiastically. So will I. Trump should pick up the phone, if hasn't already, and square things with him. Insulting him is not smart and not wise. I don't think too highly of Trump doing that in public. It is stupid and childish.

DeSantis is running for reelection and wants to crush the DA Crist once and for all. Distractions from Trump can come after the election not 3 days before. Democrats are loving this.
I believe for this to be correct. I would be SO DISAPPOINTED if he really did.
 
It is crazy isn't it. Especially when Trump was fed a lie and ran with it. DeSantis will be my governor for FOUR more years and has no reason to challenge Trump. He has a big unfinished job here.

He is the governor of 22 million Floridians. He is young, he has small children, he is on the verge of running every Democrat out of statewide elected offices. When he is finished they will be contained in a little corner down in the Southeast with the Northeast transplants. And a few over in Orlando or up in Gainesville and Tallahassee. The rest of us will be FREE of Democrat influence.

DeSantis understands. So I say, Go Trump 2024 and Ron can lead us to the best four more years of our life. DeSantis is the best governor in my lifetime and I was born in Clearwater in 1943. My Dunedin boy rules.
I would say it differently, but that is exactly DeSantis' opportunity. (and all things being equal, I would have DeSantis and Tim Scott in 2024 but agree that 2028 is the smoothest "implementation option").
 
Yeah Trump actually gave him a layup, say eff Ryan and the DC establishment. That would actually make Trump look like a dummy and make DeSantis look like the hero.

But instead.....we have silence that indicates Trump was right. As he always is.
DeSantis doesn't have to say anything. He didn't start this and the last thing he needs is a verbal sparing with Trump 3 days before the election. What purpose would that serve. Trump has shown by his twitter history he just keeps on the same track and never let's it go.

Trump is very inconsistent in his attacks. One day he insults DeSantis and the next day he stands up in Miami and supports him, gives him some nice words and says he will win reelection. He goes from hot to cold.

He did the same thing with Marco Rubio during the 2016 primary. He insulted the man and wouldn't let it go. Now he holds a nice rally right before election day with praise. So I guess it is best to just ignore Trump and allow Melania to calm him down. A war of words from DeSantis does nothing positive and Democrats laugh about i.
 
I believe for this to be correct. I would be SO DISAPPOINTED if he really did.
I would too. Really disappointed and I would have a hard time supporting him for President. I consider Ryan and his RINO Lincoln Project morons as much of an enemy as Biden's gang.

I will be the first to apologize if that turned out be true and pull my support from RD immediately. That would be uncalled for.
 
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DeSantis doesn't have to say anything. He didn't start this and the last thing he needs is a verbal sparing with Trump 3 days before the election. What purpose would that serve. Trump has shown by his twitter history he just keeps on the same track and never let's it go.

Trump is very inconsistent in his attacks. One day he insults DeSantis and the next day he stands up in Miami and supports him, gives him some nice words and says he will win reelection. He goes from hot to cold.

He did the same thing with Marco Rubio during the 2016 primary. He insulted the man and wouldn't let it go. Now he holds a nice rally right before election day with praise. So I guess it is best to just ignore Trump and allow Melania to calm him down. A war of words from DeSantis does nothing positive and Democrats laugh about i.
Please define "attack" If you mean calling him a name...that was a shot across the bow. That was NOT an attack. Go watch some Jeb Bush videos of Trump "attacking" THOSE are attacks
 
Please define "attack" If you mean calling him a name...that was a shot across the bow. That was NOT an attack. Go watch some Jeb Bush videos of Trump "attacking" THOSE are attacks
Bingo. It was a test. Get folks talking about it, and see what Desantis does. It amazes me that folks still haven’t figured out that Trump says things for a reason. And here we are….whole board talking about it, and Ron is going to have to respond.

It’s incredible that folks still haven’t figured this out.
 
This MAY be your dumbest post...and as we ALL know....that is saying something. You may as well blame inflation, supply crisis, open borders and high crime on Trump while you are at it. I am not lying here...I feel VERY sorry for people that walk this earth with such LITTLE grasp of what is happening around them.
Well, it’s hard for you to be objective when you are stuck so far up Trumps ass.

Seriously, it’s embarrassing how much you all fawn over the guy, a former Democrat New York real estate developer, who sleeps with hookers and pays for abortions. He plays you guys like a fiddle in order to achieve his selfish goals. Wise up.
 
Please define "attack" If you mean calling him a name...that was a shot across the bow. That was NOT an attack. Go watch some Jeb Bush videos of Trump "attacking" THOSE are attacks
Well I guess that is a matter of personal interpretation. Any time you insult a person, in public, with the intention of disparaging his character that is an attack where I come from.

So we interpret it differently that is why a man should use wisdom before opening his mouth. It will get you hurt in real life. Just saying.
 
Well, it’s hard for you to be objective when you are stuck so far up Trumps ass.

Seriously, it’s embarrassing how much you all fawn over the guy, a former Democrat New York real estate developer, who sleeps with hookers and pays for abortions. He plays you guys like a fiddle in order to achieve his selfish goals. Wise up.
What's wrong with this?
 
Well, it’s hard for you to be objective when you are stuck so far up Trumps ass.

Seriously, it’s embarrassing how much you all fawn over the guy, a former Democrat New York real estate developer, who sleeps with hookers and pays for abortions. He plays you guys like a fiddle in order to achieve his selfish goals. Wise up.
Please show me where ANYONE fawns over Trump, son. You see...you are a liar. You are a democrat. Lying is what you specialize in. But let ME let YOU in on a little secret...we KNOW you are liars! So it is impossible to take you serious. When you are not lying...you do not know ANYTHING what you are talking about. so the moral of THIS story is...you should READ WAY, WAY more than you post! You actually MAY learn something to improve your unfortunate situation!




And YES..you are welcome for this advice.
 
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I believe for this to be correct. I would be SO DISAPPOINTED if he really did.
It’s throwing out garbage in the path of RDS to 2024, and it’s not surprising that
1. It is being thrown out there
2. Trump worshippers are believing it
It’s easier than being a skeptic which would force them to open their eyes.
What’s next?
“McConnell, Pence, and Liz Cheney hold secret meeting at Adam Kinzinger’s house to plot demise of Trump? “
Published on The Gateway Pundit so it must be a fact?

Bitter feelings ahead when you realize you’ve been played and used.
 
Well I guess that is a matter of personal interpretation. Any time you insult a person, in public, with the intention of disparaging his character that is an attack where I come from.

So we interpret it differently that is why a man should use wisdom before opening his mouth. It will get you hurt in real life. Just saying.
I do not disagree with this, but "attack" is not what that was..it was a reaction..right or wrong. I hope more than anyone it was a WRONG reaction
 
It’s throwing out garbage in the path of RDS to 2024, and it’s not surprising that
1. It is being thrown out there
2. Trump worshippers are believing it
It’s easier than being a skeptic which would force them to open their eyes.
What’s next?
“McConnell, Pence, and Liz Cheney hold secret meeting at Adam Kinzinger’s house to plot demise of Trump? “
Published on The Gateway Pundit so it must be a fact?

Bitter feelings ahead when you realize you’ve been played and used.
Well you are wrong...as you are very often. Your ASS uming things that are just not so. Are you a democrat? Because that is what lefties do. I DO NOT want to believe it, and so far, no one in the DeSantis camp is saying anything about it. I LOVE Ron DeSantis. It would really hurt me if this WAS true. But I have come to know that Trump RARLY gets things wrong. So I would really like DeSantis to REBUKE Paul Ryan...not get in to it with Trump. And I do not approve of what Trump did.
 
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Paul Ryan, at a closed door meeting, named DeSantis among his Top 3 for 2024 included RDS who was NOT at this meeting. Nor did he seek out Ryan.

RDS did not ask for this and the former speaker may have actually said this in an attempt to work his way back into relevance for HIMSELF.

Do you know how these things are played?
So I got this wrong? In another thread this weekend you praised my posts.

Open your eyes. Believe none of what you hear and half of what you see.
Healthy skepticism is good for you.
 
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