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Want to hear a funny story? I voted for Rubio in the Alabama primary over Trump.

Was VERY happy to do so.

Why? Cause Trump was an asshole with a big mouth and I couldn't stand him.

I voted for him in the presidential election......then I saw that he KEPT HIS CAMPAIGN PROMISES. And I went from being a hardcore hater to a hardcore supporter as a result.

Theo must have forgotten that there were 15 other candidates running against Trump in the 16 pub primaries. A LOT of his CURRENT supporters did NOT vote for him in the primaries.

We became supporters because of HIS ACTIONS.

Theo would have us believe the opposite happened: That voters supported him BEFORE he took office, then he LOST their support BECAUSE OF HIS MOUTH.

He's got it completely bass-ackwards. But then again he's parroting media talking points, and that tends to happen when you do.
Trump is at his best when he focuses on targeted actions and limited and targeted words. He does what he says.

when he gets into speculations and musings, he gets himself in trouble - warranted or not.

note that he has been quiet. There is power in the silence.
 
Want to hear a funny story? I voted for Rubio in the Alabama primary over Trump.

Was VERY happy to do so.

Why? Cause Trump was an asshole with a big mouth and I couldn't stand him.

I voted for him in the presidential election......then I saw that he KEPT HIS CAMPAIGN PROMISES. And I went from being a hardcore hater to a hardcore supporter as a result.

Theo must have forgotten that there were 15 other candidates running against Trump in the 16 pub primaries. A LOT of his CURRENT supporters did NOT vote for him in the primaries.

We became supporters because of HIS ACTIONS.

Theo would have us believe the opposite happened: That voters supported him BEFORE he took office, then he LOST their support BECAUSE OF HIS MOUTH.

He's got it completely bass-ackwards. But then again he's parroting media talking points, and that tends to happen when you do.
I hear you and agree with most of this. But aside from the Cheney's, Romneys, and McCains, it does no good to eat our own. Most people get that Trump is good for our country through his policies. That alone should carry the day. Even my wife who is "Independent" loves Trump's policies and is even more pro-Trump than I am. That's saying a lot. Why? Because he is the antithesis of what is going on in the world today.
 
Trump is at his best when he focuses on targeted actions and limited and targeted words. He does what he says.

when he gets into speculations and musings, he gets himself in trouble - warranted or not.
This is what Trump's detractors never understood or accepted: Trump DOES NOT SPECULATE.

He educates.

Remember when he said that obama spied on his campaign? When he said that HE HAD PROOF that obama had.

But he didn't present that proof to the media. The media called him liar, insane, all manner of attacks.

Then we later learned that Trump had been presented evidence of obama spying on him BEFORE HE WAS INAUGURATED.

No person on the planet had better access to information than Trump did.

When he made a claim, it ended up being proven true.

Every. Single. Time.

Every single time, he made the claim, and provided no proof. The media even came up with a talking point for this. 'Trump claims, without evidence....'

Trump did that intentionally. He was letting the media destroy itself. The media could have INVESIGATED his claims, but they never did.

He was exposing them.

It's a shame you guys never learned how to read what Trump did and say. He gave us everything. But the haters totally missed it and got blinded by media spin.

"Has POTUS ever made a claim that wasn't later proven true?"
 
I happen to take a libertarian view which is that keep the government out of it.

people on this board have deeply held views on being pro-life. I respect it. They are not playing to any audience as this is all anonymous.

It’s what they believe to their core.
Thats not a libertarian view IMO. I say that as a Libertarian. Why? Because the one thing you seem to NEVER address is that whole RIGHT to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness right that our founders decided to write about in the Declaration of Independence. I wonder why they didn’t write about the right to make a second choice after the first choice was a mistake. I know, those damn founders documents always getting in the way of modern opinions.

It’s sort of funny, one of the few areas our Government should be involved in (The right to LIFE) is an area you want them out of.

Just going to guess that you will not address this, again.
 
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Thats not a libertarian view IMO. I say that as a Libertarian. Why? Because the one thing you seem to NEVER address is that whole RIGHT to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness right that our founders decided to write about in the Declaration of Independence. I wonder why they didn’t right about the right to make a second choice after the first choice was a mistake. I know, those damn founders documents always getting in the way of modern opinions.

It’s sort of funny, one of the few areas our Government should be involved in (The right to LIFE) is an area you want them out of.

Just going to guess that you will not address this, again.
So I'm curious.....we have certain posters here who always claim the right is losing the moderates. We all know who they are.

How many moderates did the left lose when they threw 'my body, my choice!' out the window when it came to the covid shots?

You guys always tell on yourselves when you can't stay consistent on your messaging.
 
So I'm curious.....we have certain posters here who always claim the right is losing the moderates. We all know who they are.

How many moderates did the left lose when they threw 'my body, my choice!' out the window when it came to the covid shots?

You guys always tell on yourselves when you can't stay consistent on your messaging.
Interesting isn’t it? Same posters never address the right to life. They conveniently disappear.
 
Thats not a libertarian view IMO. I say that as a Libertarian. Why? Because the one thing you seem to NEVER address is that whole RIGHT to LIFE, liberty and the pursuit of happiness right that our founders decided to write about in the Declaration of Independence. I wonder why they didn’t right about the right to make a second choice after the first choice was a mistake. I know, those damn founders documents always getting in the way of modern opinions.

It’s sort of funny, one of the few areas our Government should be involved in (The right to LIFE) is an area you want them out of.

Just going to guess that you will not address this, again.
Good, go ahead, get the government and prosecute and put in jail all of the mother and doctors who decide to term pregnancy at 3 weeks as they are committing murder regardless if it is via the pill or through an abortion procedure.

from your view, you would go ahead and ban it federally and take the decision out of the states as it is a violation of, I would assume the fifth amendment (life, liberty, etc. was in the DOI not the constitution). Or is it that it should be decided at the state level? Which one?

Also, if that was in the constitution, why did not Alito not just strike down Roe but rather outlaw abortion right there and cite the 5th amendment. Why not just answer it that clearly in his confirmation hearing? Or Cavanaugh? Or ACB? Or Gorsuch? Thomas in 1991 refused to state an opinion. If it is so clear, then just say so.
This is what Trump's detractors never understood or accepted: Trump DOES NOT SPECULATE.

He educates.

Remember when he said that obama spied on his campaign? When he said that HE HAD PROOF that obama had.

But he didn't present that proof to the media. The media called him liar, insane, all manner of attacks.

Then we later learned that Trump had been presented evidence of obama spying on him BEFORE HE WAS INAUGURATED.

No person on the planet had better access to information than Trump did.

When he made a claim, it ended up being proven true.

Every. Single. Time.

Every single time, he made the claim, and provided no proof. The media even came up with a talking point for this. 'Trump claims, without evidence....'

Trump did that intentionally. He was letting the media destroy itself. The media could have INVESIGATED his claims, but they never did.

He was exposing them.

It's a shame you guys never learned how to read what Trump did and say. He gave us everything. But the haters totally missed it and got blinded by media spin.

"Has POTUS ever made a claim that wasn't later proven true?"

He made very powerful claims and many were indeed right. No question.

My comment was on speculations and musings. Here was his most infamous one:

"So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous - whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light," the president said, turning to Dr Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus response co-ordinator, "and I think you said that hasn't been checked but you're going to test it.

"And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside of the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're going to test that too. Sounds interesting," the president continued.

(I won't quote the whole thing)

Or comments he made about "s...hole countries", etc.

Unnecessary comments. If he wanted to show some of the innovation, then just let Brix get up and speak. (and yes, she was borderline worthless) If she turns out to be issuing blather, then she will expose herself as such.

Again, Ghost we fundamentally disagree about Trump was undisciplined or not, so need to rehash this out. You also find him essentially infallible, or if there was a "fault" he did not go hard enough on something or fast enough.

Gotta love the "Blast Radius"

Regardless, the point is that the less he says, the more powerful he is. He did indeed get a lot of things right.
 
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Want to hear a funny story? I voted for Rubio in the Alabama primary over Trump.

Was VERY happy to do so.

Why? Cause Trump was an asshole with a big mouth and I couldn't stand him.

I voted for him in the presidential election......then I saw that he KEPT HIS CAMPAIGN PROMISES. And I went from being a hardcore hater to a hardcore supporter as a result.

Theo must have forgotten that there were 15 other candidates running against Trump in the 16 pub primaries. A LOT of his CURRENT supporters did NOT vote for him in the primaries.

We became supporters because of HIS ACTIONS.

Theo would have us believe the opposite happened: That voters supported him BEFORE he took office, then he LOST their support BECAUSE OF HIS MOUTH.

He's got it completely bass-ackwards. But then again he's parroting media talking points, and that tends to happen when you do.
This is the same pattern I had other than I supported Cruz in the primaries. I voted proudly for Trump in the general and he proved my vote was right when he started keeping his promises and shook up Washington DC

He stepped on so many Swamp toes that they had to destroy him. The entire Democrat machine and the GOP establishment went after him from the time he came down the escalator and they have not let up to this day.

One lie after another and I will not forget that and certainly will not withdraw my support.
 
Want to hear a funny story? I voted for Rubio in the Alabama primary over Trump.

Was VERY happy to do so.

Why? Cause Trump was an asshole with a big mouth and I couldn't stand him.

I voted for him in the presidential election......then I saw that he KEPT HIS CAMPAIGN PROMISES. And I went from being a hardcore hater to a hardcore supporter as a result.

Theo must have forgotten that there were 15 other candidates running against Trump in the 16 pub primaries. A LOT of his CURRENT supporters did NOT vote for him in the primaries.

We became supporters because of HIS ACTIONS.

Theo would have us believe the opposite happened: That voters supported him BEFORE he took office, then he LOST their support BECAUSE OF HIS MOUTH.

He's got it completely bass-ackwards. But then again he's parroting media talking points, and that tends to happen when you do.
I voted for Kasich in the primary.

Trump said things that needed to be said. He made the other candidates look like wimps. He did try to keep his campaign promises.

But think about this: brilliant, all-knowing YOU thought he was an asshole with a big mouth and you couldn't stand him.

All I'm saying is....being perceived as an asshole with a big mouth makes a less than ideal candidate for public office. Hardcore righties may love him unconditionally but it is going to be challenging to get the needed votes elsewhere.
 
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When the election primaries started...I liked Carly Fiorina. Did not dislike Trump...but thought he was a fad. By the time the vote came to Florida, I already knew Trump was THE man, and was saying EXACTLY what I wanted to hear. I have never looked back. Best leader and President in my lifetime..including Reagan...and Reagan was AWESOME. Just hope he can tone the unnecessary BS down...and I believe he will
 
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When the election primaries started...I liked Carly Fiorina. Did not dislike Trump...but thought he was a fad. By the time the vote came to Florida, I already knew Trump was THE man, and was saying EXACTLY what I wanted to hear. I have never looked back. Best leader and President in my lifetime..including Reagan...and Reagan was AWESOME. Just hope he can tone the unnecessary BS down...and I believe he will
Reagan knew how to lead. It was a great period in America.
 
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Good, go ahead, get the government and prosecute and put in jail all of the mother and doctors who decide to term pregnancy at 3 weeks as they are committing murder regardless if it is via the pill or through an abortion procedure.

from your view, you would go ahead and ban it federally and take the decision out of the states as it is a violation of, I would assume the fifth amendment (life, liberty, etc. was in the DOI not the constitution). Or is it that it should be decided at the state level? Which one?

Also, if that was in the constitution, why did not Alito not just strike down Roe but rather outlaw abortion right there and cite the 5th amendment. Why not just answer it that clearly in his confirmation hearing? Or Cavanaugh? Or ACB? Or Gorsuch? Thomas in 1991 refused to state an opinion. If it is so clear, then just say so.


He made very powerful claims and many were indeed right. No question.

My comment was on speculations and musings. Here was his most infamous one:

"So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous - whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light," the president said, turning to Dr Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus response co-ordinator, "and I think you said that hasn't been checked but you're going to test it.

"And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside of the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're going to test that too. Sounds interesting," the president continued.

(I won't quote the whole thing)

Or comments he made about "s...hole countries", etc.

Unnecessary comments. If he wanted to show some of the innovation, then just let Brix get up and speak. (and yes, she was borderline worthless) If she turns out to be issuing blather, then she will expose herself as such.

Again, Ghost we fundamentally disagree about Trump was undisciplined or not, so need to rehash this out. You also find him essentially infallible, or if there was a "fault" he did not go hard enough on something or fast enough.

Gotta love the "Blast Radius"

Regardless, the point is that the less he says, the more powerful he is. He did indeed get a lot of things right.
Again. You still have said nothing about what the Declaration of Independence says about our God given right to LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, but congrats on reciting Moby Dick. Do you believe those are God given rights or not? Pretty simple.

pssstt. Go read my post again, the DEI is exactly where I said that statement was located. You’re just pissed because you cannot explain it away. In fact, you have tried to use the very same statement in your arguments on here before as God given rights.

here is your quote:

“Now, are you saying do not have sex because you might have a baby, and "tough". Well then, buddy, you are getting in the middle of my "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness".


You don’t get to pick and choose when those rights apply sir. Seems like you just might be getting “in the middle of a baby’s life, liberty, and the pursuit of happines.” So either you believe those are God given rights, or you don’t. Which is it? Please answer that question. I bet you won’t.

Also, no need to tell us how wealthy you are in an attempt to validate your intelligence level. You have already informed us, and we all know that you must be super smart based on the taxes you pay sir.
 
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I voted for Kasich in the primary.

Trump said things that needed to be said. He made the other candidates look like wimps. He did try to keep his campaign promises.

But think about this: brilliant, all-knowing YOU thought he was an asshole with a big mouth and you couldn't stand him.

All I'm saying is....being perceived as an asshole with a big mouth makes a less than ideal candidate for public office. Hardcore righties may love him unconditionally but it is going to be challenging to get the needed votes elsewhere.
Yikes. Kasich? And Jimmy Carter? And you want to be taken seriously?
 
When the election primaries started...I liked Carly Fiorina. Did not dislike Trump...but thought he was a fad. By the time the vote came to Florida, I already knew Trump was THE man, and was saying EXACTLY what I wanted to hear. I have never looked back. Best leader and President in my lifetime..including Reagan...and Reagan was AWESOME. Just hope he can tone the unnecessary BS down...and I believe he will
"I just hope he can tone the unnecessary BS down" - precisely. Precisely.

He is doing that. By the way, the biggest, ironic mistake that the left/Twitter did was ban him from that platform. All it did? It made him disciplined.

So, now instead of them teeing off on something in the news cycle, they turn on themselves.

And here are some of the results. This is from a Progessive:

 
My comment was on speculations and musings. Here was his most infamous one:

"So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous - whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light," the president said, turning to Dr Deborah Birx, the White House coronavirus response co-ordinator, "and I think you said that hasn't been checked but you're going to test it.

"And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside of the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you're going to test that too. Sounds interesting," the president continued.

(I won't quote the whole thing)

Or comments he made about "s...hole countries", etc.

Unnecessary comments. If he wanted to show some of the innovation, then just let Brix get up and speak. (and yes, she was borderline worthless) If she turns out to be issuing blather, then she will expose herself as such.
SMDH Again, you never learned how to read Trump. Trump told the story about that technology because IT WAS AVAILABLE AND EFFECTIVE. He mentioned it to make it KNOWN that the people in charge of handling covid KNEW about it and DID NOT PURSUE IT.

Remember when he said why don't we try HCQ?

Remember when Fauci said hell no HCQ won't work against coronavirus?

Remember when we later discovered that Fauci had penned a paper in 2005 saying that HCQ *DID WORK AGAINST CORONAVIRUS*????? Trump mentioned these things because Fauci and Birx DID NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THEM.

Yet here were EFFECTIVE treatments, that they didn't want to pursue. Trump was simply making that KNOWN to all. It was for later use.

@grandhavendiddy if you want to understand Trump, you have to understand this: Trump is a YUGE fan of Sun Tzu's The Art of War. Most specifically, he is enamored with the great strategist's theory about moving your enemy into the position where they are most vulnerable.

Everything Trump says that you think is 'undisciplined' is perfectly calculated to get his political enemies to expose themselves.

Trump is actually the most disciplined politician alive.

Until you understand that, you won't understand Trump. Because you won't understand WHY he does what he does and HOW IT WORKS.

You focus on what he does, but you are missing WHAT OTHERS DO IN RESPONSE TO HIM.

That's where the money is.
 
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SMDH Again, you never learned how to read Trump. Trump told the story about that technology because IT WAS AVAILABLE AND EFFECTIVE. He mentioned it to make it KNOWN that the people in charge of handling covid KNEW about it and DID NOT PURSUE IT.

Remember when he said why don't we try HCQ?

Remember when Fauci said hell no HCQ won't work against coronavirus?

Remember when we later discovered that Fauci had penned a paper in 2005 saying that HCQ *DID WORK AGAINST CORONAVIRUS*?????

@grandhavendiddy if you want to understand Trump, you have to understand this: Trump is a YUGE fan of Sun Tzu's The Art of War. Most specifically, he is enamored with the great strategist's theory about moving your enemy into the position where they are most vulnerable.

Everything Trump says that you think is 'undisciplined' is perfectly calculated to get his political enemies to expose themselves.

Trump is actually the most disciplined politician alive.

Until you understand that, you won't understand Trump. Because you won't understand WHY he does what he does and HOW IT WORKS.

You focus on what he does, but you are missing WHAT OTHERS DO IN RESPONSE TO HIM.

That's where the money is.
Bingo. Similar thing to when Trump said a President can think about declassification of classified material and it’s declassified.

Had a friend in an uproar over that comment, so I said…..ok, so what are the rules for a sitting President to declassify? His response…..”I don’t know”

Exactly.
 
Bingo. Similar thing to when Trump said a President can think about declassification of classified material and it’s declassified.

Had a friend in an uproar over that comment, so I said…..ok, so what are the rules for a sitting President to declassify? His response…..”I don’t know”

Exactly.
Precisely. Trump ALWAYS has the goods when he makes a statement like that.

Anyone that says that Trump is undisciplined doesn't understand Trump and what he's trying to do. Simple as that.
 
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Precisely. Trump ALWAYS has the goods when he makes a statement like that.

Anyone that says that Trump is undisciplined doesn't understand Trump and what he's trying to do. Simple as that.
Yep. Folks gotta understand why he does what he does. I thought this was understood as common sense. SMDH.

He knows exactly how to play the left.
 
It is interesting - I go back and look at the 2016 republican primaries with 2022 eyes, and Trump dominated. He was sharp and on point. It's quite remarkable looking back.

Also - going back to the 2020 presidential debates, the one thing that Biden did well, was not wilt under the pressure that Trump was applying. If that were re-held today, Trump would turn Biden into Fetterman.

An argument, actually for Trump vs. DeSantis, is when the side by side comparison is made, who is going to bring Biden's diminished capability into fullest relief. DeSantis is really good - but from a force of personality perspective, there is only one Trump.
 
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SMDH Again, you never learned how to read Trump. Trump told the story about that technology because IT WAS AVAILABLE AND EFFECTIVE. He mentioned it to make it KNOWN that the people in charge of handling covid KNEW about it and DID NOT PURSUE IT.

Remember when he said why don't we try HCQ?

Remember when Fauci said hell no HCQ won't work against coronavirus?

Remember when we later discovered that Fauci had penned a paper in 2005 saying that HCQ *DID WORK AGAINST CORONAVIRUS*????? Trump mentioned these things because Fauci and Birx DID NOT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THEM.

Yet here were EFFECTIVE treatments, that they didn't want to pursue. Trump was simply making that KNOWN to all. It was for later use.

@grandhavendiddy if you want to understand Trump, you have to understand this: Trump is a YUGE fan of Sun Tzu's The Art of War. Most specifically, he is enamored with the great strategist's theory about moving your enemy into the position where they are most vulnerable.

Everything Trump says that you think is 'undisciplined' is perfectly calculated to get his political enemies to expose themselves.

Trump is actually the most disciplined politician alive.

Until you understand that, you won't understand Trump. Because you won't understand WHY he does what he does and HOW IT WORKS.

You focus on what he does, but you are missing WHAT OTHERS DO IN RESPONSE TO HIM.

That's where the money is.

This is a good post. There is no question that he thinks things through on multiple levels. I can see the Art of War analogy.

Here is the difference in what we are saying:

1. If you asked me - do you think, that, the majority of the time, Trump was disciplined even if unorthodox - I would answer "sure" and I would agree that it has taken me some time to see it. You see it in corporate america a lot more.

2. If you were to ask me - does Trump always (emphasis here) get it right - the answer is no and because he places so much stress on the system (which is by design from him) undisciplined steps cost him.

In the exchange I quote, where he is indeed musing about bleach, there was no "setup", no "productive" outcome. He was under pressure (which is very understandable - we were in a global pandemic with no analog and an advisor team he could not trust) and started musing. It did not work and became an example for independents on how he did not appear to have a handle on the pandemic just months before the election.
 
It is interesting - I go back and look at the 2016 republican primaries with 2022 eyes, and Trump dominated. He was sharp and on point. It's quite remarkable looking back.

Also - going back to the 2020 presidential debates, the one thing that Biden did well, was not wilt under the pressure that Trump was applying. If that were re-held today, Trump would turn Biden into Fetterman.

An argument, actually for Trump vs. DeSantis, is when the side by side comparison is made, who is going to bring Biden's diminished capability into fullest relief. DeSantis is really good - but from a force of personality perspective, there is only one Trump.
DeSantis is about to be re-elected governor of Florida. If he wants to run for President in 2024, he will have to start campaigning for it roughly 6 months after he was inaugurated in Jan.

Media would have a field day calling him a liar. And they would be right.

No one that wants DeSantis to be president should be wanting him to run in 24. Trump running or not is irrelevant.
 
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In the exchange I quote, where he is indeed musing about bleach, there was no "setup", no "productive" outcome.
Sigh. He wasn't talking about injecting bleach into your body, Please stop watching The View. John Roberts even did a followup segment and clarified that the technology that Trump mentioned is available and being used.

THAT was Trump's point, to make it PUBLICLY KNOWN that treatment options such as this and HCQ and Ivermectin were available and that people like Fauci and Birx knew about them and WERE NOT USING THEM.

As for there being no 'productive' outcome, how do you know? You have no idea what access to what information Trump has.
 
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Sigh. He wasn't talking about injecting bleach into your body, Please stop watching The View. John Roberts even did a followup segment and clarified that the technology that Trump mentioned is available and being used.

THAT was Trump's point, to make it PUBLICLY KNOWN that treatment options such as this and HCQ and Ivermectin were available and that people like Fauci and Birx knew about them and WERE NOT USING THEM.

As for there being no 'productive' outcome, how do you know? You have no idea what access to what information Trump has.
You can lead a horse to water….

This thread has reminded me how great America truly is….Anyone can find success here with a little effort.
 
Jimmy Carter was the last Democrat I voted for and I pray everyday for God to forgive me. Please Lord hear my prayer.

I know God is a merciful God and if He forgives me for that I will be eternally grateful.

It is the worst mistake of my voting life.

My dad voted for Carter too. He feels the same way about his vote.
 
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Sigh. He wasn't talking about injecting bleach into your body, Please stop watching The View. John Roberts even did a followup segment and clarified that the technology that Trump mentioned is available and being used.

THAT was Trump's point, to make it PUBLICLY KNOWN that treatment options such as this and HCQ and Ivermectin were available and that people like Fauci and Birx knew about them and WERE NOT USING THEM.

As for there being no 'productive' outcome, how do you know? You have no idea what access to what information Trump has.
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that?" Trump said.

"By injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it'd be interesting to check that, so that you're going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me."


It exactly what he said - and then he had to later clarify, Biden like, that it was not what he was talking about. He had multiple news cycles on this and it eroded trust, from the independents and especially suburban women that he did not have a handle on the pandemic.



Your mind is made up - which is fine. Trump is the smartest most strategic, most disciplined person ever.

Enjoy your weekend.
 
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"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that?" Trump said.

"By injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it'd be interesting to check that, so that you're going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me."


It exactly what he said - and then he had to later clarify, Biden like, that it was not what he was talking about. He had multiple news cycles on this and it eroded trust, from the independents and especially suburban women that he did not have a handle on the pandemic.



Your mind is made up - which is fine. Trump is the smartest most strategic, most disciplined person ever.

Enjoy your weekend.

I have to say, and I don't think reasonable people on this board think I'm a Trump fanatic, I don't think he meant anyone should inject bleach. Further, anyone who actually thought that, or pretended to, are either incredibly stupid or they suffer from serious TDS.

JMO
 
Reagan knew how to lead. It was a great period in America.
While I agree...the other side did not use the FBI, NSA, CIA and other law and intelligence agencies to overthrow his reign. And the MSM did not attack him no matter what he did. He did not have social media censoring his followers, only allowing one side of his story out. As big as it was for Reagan to defeat the USSR.....Trump exposing the unbelievable corruption in our own government, and law agencies may end up doing more to save America. Many people now see this corruption, and are doing their best to educate the people who still have their head buried in the sand...even some "conservatives"
 
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I voted for Kasich in the primary.

Trump said things that needed to be said. He made the other candidates look like wimps. He did try to keep his campaign promises.

But think about this: brilliant, all-knowing YOU thought he was an asshole with a big mouth and you couldn't stand him.

All I'm saying is....being perceived as an asshole with a big mouth makes a less than ideal candidate for public office. Hardcore righties may love him unconditionally but it is going to be challenging to get the needed votes elsewhere.
You are a democrat, and may not know it then
 
I have to say, and I don't think reasonable people on this board think I'm a Trump fanatic, I don't think he meant anyone should inject bleach. Further, anyone who actually thought that, or pretended to, are either incredibly stupid or they suffer from serious TDS.

JMO
They are reacing, because they hate him. Simple as that. Guy is a billionaire...and some dolts think he is stupid...SMGDH
 
Your mind is made up - which is fine. Trump is the smartest most strategic, most disciplined person ever.

Enjoy your weekend.
My mind is made up???

You just proved that he never said what you claim. He never said 'Could we inject bleach in the body to kill covid?"

He brought up the TECHNOLOGY to get it ON THE RECORD that BIRX AND FAUCI knew about it and REFUSED TO USE IT.

So if we later learn that the technology COULD HAVE STOPPED COVID, then we get to ask the rightful question "Then why didn't you guys use it?"

Same reason why he asked about using HCQ. He got Fauci on record saying HCQ couldn't treat coronavirus. Because Trump knew that Fauci had authored a paper in 2005 that CLAIMED THAT HCQ IS A SUCCESSFUL TREATMENT FOR CORONAVIRUS.

You think my problem is that I believe Trump to be infallible. Your problem is you want to believe he's an idiot. So much so that you can literally quote him, and still think he said something that your quote proves he did not.
 
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If there were, Kasick would have got more than 1% of the votes! LOL
Kasick did absolutely nothing in the debates expect once an hour he would say "Guys we need to stop this gosh darned bickering!", then we wouldn't hear from him again till the next debate.

Dude honestly thought if he hung around Trump would make him his VP lol
 
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While I agree...the other side did not use the FBI, NSA, CIA and other law and intelligence agencies to overthrow his reign. And the MSM did not attack him no matter what he did. He did not have social media censoring his followers, only allowing one side of his story out. As big as it was for Reagan to defeat the USSR.....Trump exposing the unbelievable corruption in our own government, and law agencies may end up doing more to save America. Many people now see this corruption, and are doing their best to educate the people who still have their head buried in the sand...even some "conservatives"
I mostly agree. Enemies of America are empowered these days. I mean, BLM riots tearing up our cities and half of America, led by MSM, looking the other way.
 
Kasick did absolutely nothing in the debates expect once an hour he would say "Guys we need to stop this gosh darned bickering!", then we wouldn't hear from him again till the next debate.

Dude honestly thought if he hung around Trump would make him his VP lol
Trump made them all look weak.
 
Trump made them all look weak.
Ben Carson was my first choice in the primaries. Unfortunately, he quickly proved he wasn't up to the task.

My favorite moment in the 2016 primary debates was during the intros for the debate where the announcers inexplicably skipped over Ben Carson and didn't call his name to come out on stage. The candidates were shown standing just off stage waiting to come out. Everyone came out when their name was called, and walked past Carson. I will never forget Jeb Bush walked out and as he passed Carson just kinda looked back at him and snickered as if to say "Wow, sucks to be you!'.

Trump was called last. He walked up to stand with Carson, and wouldn't go on stage. Then after a pause, he motioned to Carson to walk out, and they both walked out together. The other candidates could have done the same thing, Trump was the only one that waited so Carson wouldn't have to walk out by himself and look like an idiot. That was my favorite moment from the primary debates.
 
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"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that?" Trump said.

"By injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it'd be interesting to check that, so that you're going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me."


It exactly what he said - and then he had to later clarify, Biden like, that it was not what he was talking about. He had multiple news cycles on this and it eroded trust, from the independents and especially suburban women that he did not have a handle on the pandemic.



Your mind is made up - which is fine. Trump is the smartest most strategic, most disciplined person ever.

Enjoy your weekend.
Good grief. You have a difficult time understanding what he said there? You listen to media spin way too much.
 
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