Your last statement is false. How do I know? You would vote for Tim Scott.
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You really need to say "In my opinion" more because that is all you have given. I have been around long enough to believe that Reagan was the best President. I believe Trump had mostly GREAT policies, but that is not all there is to it. Obama started the division in our country and Trump took it to the next level. And now Biden is stepping it up again. I hate this dumpster fire that we have every bit as much as you, I promise. I don't want 4 more years of it, and I worry if Trump is the nominee that is exactly what will happen.
To answer your question, yes I believe the cheating will be worse if Trump is on the ticket. I thought I was pretty clear. Maybe I'm wrong, but same thing, that can't be proven.
You sure you haven't mistaken him for @grandhavendiddy? He's the Tim Scott lover. Scott is on the sh1tt hole south of the two Carolinas along with the dips**t Lindsey "McCain" Graham.
Yeah the Tim Scott who endorsed the Fugly Ass RINO Lisa Murkowski.
I will tell you why I KNOW they cheated...you make your mind up for yourself.
1. Biden was ALMOST 100% defeated until Super Tuesday. Bernie wins Super Tuesday...the math would be impossible for Biden to win the nomination. A COMMUNIST almost won the democratic nomination UNTIL Clyburn took the black vote and helped move it to Biden.
2. In our history, a sitting President has never increased his votes running for the second term...Trump did, and had the most show of support that I have seen TEN FOLD from a candidate on either side in my lifetime. BTW....I challenge you to find this on google...they have it hid
3. You will have to explain to me how a guy that hid in his basement because he CANNOT complete a sentence...got 12 MILLION more votes than one of the most popular presidents ever elected...while hiding in his basement. (I know how he did it) (obama)
4. The FBI investigated Trump for 3 1/2 years...while KNOWING the dossier was fake even BEFORE Comey told Trump that there was a dossier out there. They already knew it was fake, yet even after this, lied multiple times on FISA warrants to keep the investigation going to diminish Trump.
5. The FBI had Hunters lap top BEFROE the election, and knew that it was his, and knew that there was damning information on it...yet let almost EVERY news outlet spread that it was "Russian disinformation" even having 50 intelligence "experts" sign off that it WAS Russian disinformation.
6. The former FBI, CIA, NSA and senior senate intelligence committee chairman SWORE that they had SEEN the evidence of Russian collusion......it was 100% a lie
7. No candidate in modern history ha slost the election when they won Ohio and Florida...and neither was close. Trump MURDERED Biden there.
8. MANY democrat ran states ILLEGALLY changed voting rules to allow the big steal...and let write in votes be sent in WITHOUT verification that the person who is voting is actually that person. And it was not just states....MANY large cities did this also. (Atlanta)
9. With just watching their campaigns...when each had rallies...FJB had DOZENS of people...maybe at BEST hundreds at a very few. Trump had 30-50 THOUSAND. Secondly..did ANYONE EVER see a Biden sign? I saw maybe 2, and I traveled the whole SE United States in the few months before the election
10. When there were recounts, Republicans WERE NOT ALLOWED to observe in MANY states and cities..where the vote counts were WAY, WAY higher than in any time in their history.
11. Social media, MSM and big tech CENORED conservatives. The MSM reported covid stats that were just downright lies to make Trump look bad. Cuomo was made to be a hero, while DeSantis was made to look the villain. DeSantis will win reelection by 14-18%...Cuomo as removed from office.
I invite my friends to add to this, as I am doing all of this off of the top of my head. But let me add.....there has NEVER in our history been a President that could have weathered this attack (especially during a pandemic) that was orchestrated by the establishment...the Cabal. Personally, I despise anyone that watched this happen, and brings up "mean tweets" F EVERY one of them...you are NOT an American. America CANNOT exist with this kind of behavior from our premier law and intelligence agencies, our media and big tech. If you supported this, and stood by without saying ANYTHING...then you do not deserve to even live in America.
Any more questions?
LOL, if you think I ever back down from a discussion or a fight (sometimes to my detriment). Most of mine are just done face to face and not on an anonymous message board where some people like to act tough (not saying you are , you may be as antagonistic in person). I just don't need to resort to name calling or insults, and actually try to respect someone else's opinion. Yeah, when someone calls me an idiot, tells me I'm not educated, and blocks me, I see those as more fighting than discussing. I get it that you guys think Trump is the only one who can save this country, I just disagree.
I believe and agree with all that but I asked you to prove that Brandon only won by cheating. If you could, Trump would still be President.
Goodness, I guess they stopped teaching to never say “In my opinion” when stating opinions, and not relaying facts. So yes, I am back to questioning our education system with you. I guess I missed all those facts you were bringing to the discussion, my apologies.
Maybe point me to the facts you brought, and if not, point me to where you stated “In my opinion” prior to every statement you made please.
As to the points you’ve trying to make, this country has serious corruption issues. None of which will actually get addressed by candidates trying to appease moderates with compromise. Thats how we got where we are today. Folks that mean well, and don’t want to rock the boat. Trump will go after all the corrupt idiots now that they have tried to burn him to the ground. I am not sure the other candidates will. The others I fear, will just play political football, and kick the can down the road. Yes, I include desantis, until he proves otherwise.
This country desperately needs a President that’s willing to burn the whole thing to the ground, and build it back up. The corruption is rampant.
This statement comes RIGHT FROM A LIB. You are either blind to facts...or only watch 5-10 minutes of CNN to get your news. Reagan got he SAME BS lie. Jimmy Carter RUINED our military. They are HORRIBLE because he took all the funding AWAY from the military...and sent it to social programs. Reagan HAD to rebuild the miltary to defeat Russia...and that is EXACTLY what he did. But to pas these bills for military spending, the DIMWIT demorats attached spending to these bills to fortify THEIR pockets, their area's or they refused to sign on to the bills. Let me remind people who watched this happen , and educate the ones that were not alive. Reagan BEGGED for a line item veto. He wanted to be able to strike this wasteful spending from these bills. He even went to the people with one of the best speeches of his lifetime...but could not get it.
Our military was in a VERY similar situation when Trump took office, AND we had a pandemic. Simply put...you cannot pass bills when there are democrats that refuse to sign on unless THEY get paid
I wish I was mistaken. Here is his quote from earlier in the thread.
“I will vote for him. I will not vote for him in the primaries if Pompeo, Cruz, Tim Scott, Noem, or especially Desantis run.”
Yikes.
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I never said anything as fact. I said Trump's demeanor (and cheating that can't be proven) cost him the election. It was clearly my opinion. I guess if stayed on a message board every day I would be a lot smarter.
How in HELL would a person have proof..ANY person other than the people that cheated...and the ones who helped? Refute ANYTHING I said above. If you standard of proof is that I have to prove it...I also cannot prive Oswald shot Kennedy, OJ killed Nicole, and that Hillary killed Epstein. That does NOT mean they did not do it.
That was my point. It can't be proven. Why would I refute something I said I believed?
You can't prove what nobody will even investigate. Clinton espionage, Biden the international grifter who has compromised himself and this country, the corrupt FBI attempting to rig elections.
As for the dumpster fire, it's not going away. Look at how the Democrats treated Bush and Romney. It doesn't matter who the GOP nominee is, the media and elitists will vilify any opposition to their woke cuck globalist bullshit............. so I want my money's worth, not some milk toast play nice in the sandbox guy. Trump won't back down, and why half the country loves him. It's not his personality, it's his fight to the end mentality.
Goodness. You said I should say IMO more. My comments on facts and opinions were in response to your comments.
We all know you have not said anything factual…..hence my comments that maybe you should take your own advice.
As for your last sentence. Maybe you should stick around so we can all find out?
Agree. All I said in this thread was that I don't want Trump to run. You would have thought I supported Socialism from some reactions. I believe you can be tough and not take any crap without being so confrontational that you run off the low IQ VOTERS (emphasize legal voters) that don't know policies. Desantis is the perfect example. The 3 Amigo's couldn't handle me not worshipping their god (only my God gets capitalized) and have branded me a liberal, LOL. If they hadn't judged someone they don't know, they would realize the hilarity in that. We are on the same team, I just don't want Trump again unless he is the Nominee. If he is, I will know I was outvoted in the Primary and turn my full support to him again.
Smdh.
So here is the deal theo. If Trump doesn’t get the nomination, then we have helped the dems prove that all you have to do is have hearing after hearing, use government agencies to go after your political opponents and you will get your way. Just like teaching children that if you throw a temper tantrum, you get what you want. That’s what they have done, and until America grows a pair and says enough (votes for the candidate anyway), it will continue.
You thinking that voting a different candidate will bring America together is foolish, and is reminiscent of the thinking the media used against voters just like you that gave us Mitt and Mccain. It’s nonsense. It does the opposite, it emboldens dems to push the line further. The next guy, maybe the hang him on public TV. Point is, they will do the same to Ron, and I would be willing to bet (any amount you like sir) that by the end of things….the liberal media will push the narrative of Ron being more extreme than Trump. Book it.
When have dems compromised? When have they nominated the moderate?
So it’s time to take a stand sir. Stop letting the media frame your opinions. There is a reason that dems and pubs alike are scared to death of Trump. That reason? He doesn’t need money.
If you don't march in perfect step with these guys, you're obviously a liberal who gets your news from CNN.
I'm embarrassed for them.
Yep.. there's no "uniting America" these days. Nothing short of war. FDR dragged our ass into WWII, only reason he got 3 terms. Even then, half the country hated his guts. And they were correct in doing so.
It's not really that either. When the country gets a gutful of Democrat policies, and the GOP gains control, they squander their political capital, and get little to nothing done. Trump never really had that luxury, lost the House during midterms. He should have built the damned wall that first two years, but they did accomplish tax cuts for the middle class and corporations, bringing home overseas jobs. Trump also gutted the Obozocare mandate. But Trump had little help, the GOP swamp critters fought him tooth and nail because they like their perks.If you don't march in perfect step with these guys, you're obviously a liberal who gets your news from CNN.
I'm embarrassed for them.
Now that at least was a real point and not just a condemnation. Much respect. I don't ever expect America to be truly united again. I think both sides have grown too far apart. I believe Moderates (how this whole conversation started) are shrinking in quantity. I am not afraid of Trump, I just think he is more divisive than better candidates that will still push like policies. That's my stand, haha. The media doesn't influence me at all. When I do listen, I basically listen to David Webb, Andrew Wilkow, and a little Mark Levin. I agree with them about 98% of the time, which is what I bet I would agree with you politically, maybe more with you. They don't influence me, I just happen to agree with them most of the time.
LOLOLOL A fugging libster that backs FJB that screwed our WHOLE Country up in less than 2 years making this statement! LOL Go drink some prune juice you old fart...your poop is putting undue pressure on your brain! LOL
Go read what I typed...and you can see why. They other side mercilessly attacked our man for 4 years. I do not forgive or forget.
I agree with all of that. Trump rocked the gravy boat and most of the other republicans would rather just keep their cushy lifestyle.
We just feel differently on Trump. I know Trump didn't get a fair shake, and it sucks. As much as he accomplished, I can't even imagine what could have happened if he would have just had even the RINOS supporting him. The problem is that won't change even if he is elected again. And he did bring SOME of it on himself with his rhetoric. I don't think even he realized how deep The Swamp was (and not our good Swamp). My simplified answer has always been Term Limits, but that will never happen as long as those in Congress who keep getting rich off of us are making the laws.
Yep. And we will get more of the same with most candidates not named trump. Desantis is still unknown as to what he would do at the national level. Would he go after the swamp like trump will now that everyone (including many pubs) have burned him?
Because that’s what this country needs. A reboot.
Tim Scott is a RINO. That's why the RINO posters love him.
I mean.....when you verbatim use the exact same talking points that liberal media does..... At least make us work for it.If you don't march in perfect step with these guys, you're obviously a liberal who gets your news from CNN.
I'm embarrassed for them.
If Trump wants to run, he will win. And the pubs can run anyone they want, and he or she will lose.
The pubs could even stomp their feet and rig the system so he can't win their party's nomination, and he can run as an indy and still beat anyone that they nominate.
Trump is daddy. The RINOs need to stop crying and get on the level of the other 80-85% of America that loves him.
It is pathetic South Carolina Republicans can't do better than give us Scott, Graham and Nikki Haley.
At the risk of stepping into the blast radius…
a lot of this is accurate, especially on the senate side. If R gets control back, they need to focus on a FEW key and clear priorities where they have clear key support (border, crime and inflation). Bring manufacturing backZ. Limited government. stay out of the rest, letting the left do their implosion and infighting.
and now stepping into the blast radius: take abortion.
if people feel that it should be left to the states, great - leave it to the states. Do NOT try to pass a national ban at the federal level and breath life right back into the left.
Play the hand to the extent you have a mandate. Ultimately, that was Biden’s gravest error. He got convinced to govern like FDR when only 40,000 votes would have put Trump in for a second term.
Shields up now! blast away! 🤣🔥
Sorry. But we are going to have to agree to agree. 😂 I find nothing wrong with any of this. As for abortion, that's up to each state. But you've noticed no doubt the commies would like to codify RoeVWade. I haven't seen the GOP try or talk about doing the opposite. But I'm sure there are some in the party that would try to push that point. I only get angry when my party tries to ban abortions for rape and incest. Now that's utterly ridiculous and counter productive.
I'm not sure why the republicans are so hard core against abortion unless that's how they think they're going to keep the religious right locked up.
I happen to take a libertarian view which is that keep the government out of it.
people on this board have deeply held views on being pro-life. I respect it. They are not playing to any audience as this is all anonymous.
It’s what they believe to their core.
Want to hear a funny story? I voted for Rubio in the Alabama primary over Trump.
Was VERY happy to do so.
Why? Cause Trump was an asshole with a big mouth and I couldn't stand him.
I voted for him in the presidential election......then I saw that he KEPT HIS CAMPAIGN PROMISES. And I went from being a hardcore hater to a hardcore supporter as a result.
Theo must have forgotten that there were 15 other candidates running against Trump in the 16 pub primaries. A LOT of his CURRENT supporters did NOT vote for him in the primaries.
We became supporters because of HIS ACTIONS.
Theo would have us believe the opposite happened: That voters supported him BEFORE he took office, then he LOST their support BECAUSE OF HIS MOUTH.
He's got it completely bass-ackwards. But then again he's parroting media talking points, and that tends to happen when you do.
