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I think it would be a huge mistake to put Trump out there again. Moderates do not like him. We need moderates.

Having said that, other than Gov. DeSantis, I have no good candidates to suggest.
DeSantis is not really a moderate. He’s younger, more verbally in command of what he wants to get across, and is not seen as a bombastic blowhard.
If not DeSantis I do like Governor Youngkin of Virginia and would support him at top of ticket with either Kari Lake or Kristi Noem as VP.
 
You are banking on that Fetterman will never get better. Dementia and a stroke are not the same. Plenty of people have suffered strokes and recovered. There are currently 2 Senators that suffered strokes and returned.

That's why I said prisoner of the moment. Now it looks bad but in 2 years it could be fine. It is all about your comfort and trust with Fetterman.
I am not the one banking on him getting anything. Go read your post. To quote you “he will get better”. Bottom line is that is not a fact. Right now it isn’t known and we can only go off of what he is now. He may get better, he may not. That, is a fact.
 
DeSantis is not really a moderate. He’s younger, more verbally in command of what he wants to get across, and is not seen as a bombastic blowhard.
If not DeSantis I do like Governor Youngkin of Virginia and would support him at top of ticket with either Kari Lake or Kristi Noem as VP.
I agree he’s not a moderate but he’s disciplined enough not to blurt out every thought.
 
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You are banking on that Fetterman will never get better. Dementia and a stroke are not the same. Plenty of people have suffered strokes and recovered. There are currently 2 Senators that suffered strokes and returned.

That's why I said prisoner of the moment. Now it looks bad but in 2 years it could be fine. It is all about your comfort and trust with Fetterman.
Well then. Prior to the stroke he said he was against fracking. Prior to the stroke he said he was for single payer (government) health care. Now he's saying he's all in for fracking and against government run health care. What will Uncle Fester be pimping in the next two years? 😂 😂 😂 😂
 
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I agree he’s not a moderate but he’s disciplined enough not to blurt out every thought.
What amazes me, is that THIS is more important to some people than a GREAT economy, low interest rates, low gas prices, middle east peace deals, strong military, incredible stock market, low inflation, closed borders etc. It is just hard for me to understand going through what we are today because some people are such softies. There is not a single person on this board that does not think Trump is a loud mouthed N Yorker...but my God, how much money has everyone lost here with all the spending for NOTHING, lost investments, economy JUST ABOUT to totally tank? I can tune that stuff out, and just cringe when I hear it.

Secondly....have you ever seen the FBI in your lifetime try to overthrow an election? Did that bother you? How about the FAKE Russia probe? (ALL caused because Hillary and her campaign payed for a fake dossier and used people in our own FBI to further the lie? I have not seen any of those poss from you? I guess those mean tweets were pretty damaging to you? I will not let the media control me in to hating the man who did more good for our Country than any President in my 60 yrs on earth. I like the good times too much!
 
What amazes me, is that THIS is more important to some people than a GREAT economy, low interest rates, low gas prices, middle east peace deals, strong military, incredible stock market, low inflation, closed borders etc. It is just hard for me to understand going through what we are today because some people are such softies. There is not a single person on this board that does not think Trump is a loud mouthed N Yorker...but my God, how much money has everyone lost here with all the spending for NOTHING, lost investments, economy JUST ABOUT to totally tank? I can tune that stuff out, and just cringe when I hear it.

Secondly....have you ever seen the FBI in your lifetime try to overthrow an election? Did that bother you? How about the FAKE Russia probe? (ALL caused because Hillary and her campaign payed for a fake dossier and used people in our own FBI to further the lie? I have not seen any of those poss from you? I guess those mean tweets were pretty damaging to you? I will not let the media control me in to hating the man who did more good for our Country than any President in my 60 yrs on earth. I like the good times too much!
All he had to do was reign in his mouth. Act like he was everybody's President. He would have mopped the floor with Biden. I blame a lot of the 2020 results on Trump refusing to adapt to the position.

I don't see a hint that he can/will do that.

The democrats are on the ropes. I don't want to give them a HUGE opening by again nominating someone so many moderates hate.
 
What amazes me, is that THIS is more important to some people than a GREAT economy, low interest rates, low gas prices, middle east peace deals, strong military, incredible stock market, low inflation, closed borders etc. It is just hard for me to understand going through what we are today because some people are such softies. There is not a single person on this board that does not think Trump is a loud mouthed N Yorker...but my God, how much money has everyone lost here with all the spending for NOTHING, lost investments, economy JUST ABOUT to totally tank? I can tune that stuff out, and just cringe when I hear it.

Secondly....have you ever seen the FBI in your lifetime try to overthrow an election? Did that bother you? How about the FAKE Russia probe? (ALL caused because Hillary and her campaign payed for a fake dossier and used people in our own FBI to further the lie? I have not seen any of those poss from you? I guess those mean tweets were pretty damaging to you? I will not let the media control me in to hating the man who did more good for our Country than any President in my 60 yrs on earth. I like the good times too much!
Bingo. And what these “moderate” pubs fail to realize is that if they give in to the media narrative and all the attacks against Trump and “move on”…..then dems will take it even further with Ron.

The “Ron doesn’t blurt things” will be a bs reason as the media will find things he says and say…..this guy is more dangerous than Trump.

I swear, some pubs (the “moderates”) never learn. It’s fascinating to watch how many times lucy pulls the football away from them yet they keep trying to kick it.

It’s time for the moderates to get off their porches and join the fight. Good grief. Not sure “moderates” is the right term for the wing of the party that never seems to learn. Maybe sheepicans is better.






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All he had to do was reign in his mouth. Act like he was everybody's President. He would have mopped the floor with Biden. I blame a lot of the 2020 results on Trump refusing to adapt to the position.

I don't see a hint that he can/will do that.

The democrats are on the ropes. I don't want to give them a HUGE opening by again nominating someone so many moderates hate.
Nope. The fix was in. His mouth had zip to do with it. Stop buying the media bs. Goodness.
 
These are the kind of teachers that @RayGravesGhost absolutely adores, a fat fuchs heckling the Governor during a debate. Guess what? Nothing even phased Ron DeSantis.

 
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You are banking on that Fetterman will never get better. Dementia and a stroke are not the same. Plenty of people have suffered strokes and recovered. There are currently 2 Senators that suffered strokes and returned.

That's why I said prisoner of the moment. Now it looks bad but in 2 years it could be fine. It is all about your comfort and trust with Fetterman.
@kalimgoodman I say this with all sincerity: You strike me as the prototypical John Fetterman supporter.
 
I agree on Trump. I love Trump's policies, but he can't quit shooting himself in the foot with his mouth. The more I listen to Mike Pompeo, the more I believe he is seriously considering a run. I would be good with that if Desantis doesn't run. The man is smart and tough.
After his comments about the FBI raid on Trump, he can forget any Trump supporters voting for him if Trump isn't running.

And if you and @GatorTheo think losing support from moderates is bad, wait till you lose it from Trump supporters.

Spoiler alert: There are a hell of a lot more of us than there are moderates.
 
After his comments about the FBI raid on Trump, he can forget any Trump supporters voting for him if Trump isn't running.

And if you and @GatorTheo think losing support from moderates is bad, wait till you lose it from Trump supporters.

Spoiler alert: There are a hell of a lot more of us than there are moderates.
You think there are more Trump supporters than moderates? Holy crap! 😂
 
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You only vote for the honest ones?
I said exactly what I do. I don't vote for politicians who misrepresent who they are. If they make campaign promises then don't fulfill them, then I don't vote for them.

I thought all intelligent voters did the same. Are you saying I should be voting for who the media tells me to vote for?
 
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What amazes me, is that THIS is more important to some people than a GREAT economy, low interest rates, low gas prices, middle east peace deals, strong military, incredible stock market, low inflation, closed borders etc.
It is so incredibly stupid it literally gives me a headache. To be that incredibly short-sighted, I simply do not get it.

Anyone that can look at what Trump accomplished over the last 4 years and think "I just hate how he never grew into the role. He just always blurted out whatever thought came into his mind!' is someone I cannot relate to. That's the nicest way I know how to say it.
 
You think there are more Trump supporters than moderates? Holy crap! 😂
Wait….what? You’re kidding right? You realize he still crushes desantis and leads biden in the polls right? And quite substantially on desantis.

This was a good troll attempt though. Sort of.
 
It is so incredibly stupid it literally gives me a headache. To be that incredibly short-sighted, I simply do not get it.

Anyone that can look at what Trump accomplished over the last 4 years and think "I just hate how he never grew into the role. He just always blurted out whatever thought came into his mind!' is someone I cannot relate to. That's the nicest way I know how to say it.
It was a decent troll job by theo.

Here is the funny part, Marco Rubio is a Rino. Theo probably considers Rubio a moderate. The “moderate” Rubio is having Trump host an event for him less than two weeks from election day. Maybe Theo needs to ask himself why that is? Hell, every “move on” Rino should. If there are more moderates than Trump supporters then why would……., oh hell never mind.

I lead the horse to water, it’s up to the horses to drink it.
 
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You think because I don't march blindly to the official right wing set of opinions that I'm liberal.

The last democrat I voted for was Jimmy Carter. I want every democrat to lose every time.

Correctly recognizing that Trump is significantly flawed is not being a liberal.
You lost ALL remaining credibility with your second sentence. You had lost most of it with your previous posts that were non factual, but this one ended any reason for attempting to have a logical discussion with you.
 
It was a decent troll job by theo.

Here is the funny part, Marco Rubio is a Rino. Theo probably considers Rubio a moderate. The “moderate” Rubio is having Trump host an event for him less than two weeks from election day. Maybe Theo needs to ask himself why that is? Hell, every “move on” Rino should. If there are more moderates than Trump supporters then why would……., oh hell never mind.

I lead the horse to water, it’s up to the horses to drink it.
Rubio ran AGAINST Trump in 2016. He IS a moderate. This PROVES the point. Rubio could not get 1/20th of the support Trump got
 
Moderates generally aren't fanatics. They just go about their business.
One thing is certain. Biden and Democrats are anything but moderates. How a moderate could pencil in ANY of the 2020 Democrat candidates for the nomination is beyond comprehension. "MAYBE Gabbert".
 
One thing is certain. Biden and Democrats are anything but moderates. How a moderate could pencil in ANY of the 2020 Democrat candidates for the nomination is beyond comprehension. "MAYBE Gabbert".
I agree but I don't want to shove them in that direction. If Trump's the guy, he'll get my vote but I hope they can come up with someone else.
 
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What amazes me, is that THIS is more important to some people than a GREAT economy, low interest rates, low gas prices, middle east peace deals, strong military, incredible stock market, low inflation, closed borders etc. It is just hard for me to understand going through what we are today because some people are such softies. There is not a single person on this board that does not think Trump is a loud mouthed N Yorker...but my God, how much money has everyone lost here with all the spending for NOTHING, lost investments, economy JUST ABOUT to totally tank? I can tune that stuff out, and just cringe when I hear it.

Secondly....have you ever seen the FBI in your lifetime try to overthrow an election? Did that bother you? How about the FAKE Russia probe? (ALL caused because Hillary and her campaign payed for a fake dossier and used people in our own FBI to further the lie? I have not seen any of those poss from you? I guess those mean tweets were pretty damaging to you? I will not let the media control me in to hating the man who did more good for our Country than any President in my 60 yrs on earth. I like the good times too much!
One of your best posts Ron
 
Moderates generally aren't fanatics. They just go about their business.
And THIS is why we have 9% inflation, crashing stock market, open borders, rising interest rates, recession, high gas prices and are the laughing stock of the world...because we have someone in charge that cannot complete a sentence. Traded him in for a guy that had THREE mid east peace deals...and NO ONE invading ANYWHERE in the world. Makes GREAT sense to you?
 
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