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jhgator said:
Along with a lot of the moderates, Trump lost the Suburban housewives because he can't control himself. They switched because of feelings, stupid as that is. Theo doesn't need me to defend him, but that is the truth (and I still question all the illegal changes to the voting laws). Trump brings out the liberal voters because he can't stick to his policies and has to make everything personal. And that is why I am not sure he can win in 2024. He will not get my vote in the primaries, but absolutely will if he wins the Republican nomination. Some of you act like Trump is infallible. He is a very flawed individual who does care about the future of America. He just can't control his own emotions, so we shouldn't be surprised that 10's of Millions voted against him because of their emotions.
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Tens of millions more people voted for him in 2020…so who did he pick up to cover for all those who “switched”?

The election was fraudulent. There is ample proof, including basic common sense.

There’s no way an incumbent gains nearly 12MM votes (most of any R ever) and the all-time record was broken by a dementia patient who didn’t campaign…and the few times he did no one showed up. Biden had a late rally where he couldn’t fill 12 circles…Kamala in AZ had her rally filmed so that you couldn’t see the crowd….while Trump had boatercades and miles long lines of people trying to get into his rallies. The enthusiasm was off the charts, people saw this coming and voted to stop it.
 
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jhgator said:
I believe and agree with all that but I asked you to prove that Brandon only won by cheating. If you could, Trump would still be President.
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There is so much proof it’s overwhelming, the issue is it wasn’t one tactic. It was several different methods…and we still haven’t figured out of the voting machines played a role

1) 2000 Mules was one way - there was an organized effort to pay people to stuff ballot boxes. If you want to debate the validity of that research fire away.
2) Voting laws were unconstitutionally changed. It removed things like signature verification, the curing process, timetables to vote, etc. Gov’s and SOS in the 5 key states acted like dictators when it’s clear the legislatures were the ones that were supposed to vote in these changes.
3) The judicial branch let the country down. They dismissed cases before the election based on standing (the election hadn’t happened yet) and then after using Latches (basically you waited too long and the remedy sought was impossible).
4) The counting process in the targeted 5 states was not bi partisan. Thousands of hours of witness testimony to the shady things they saw before they were kicked out…it was the same story over and over.
5) Statistical analysis showed impossible trends where ballot surges would put Biden just ahead and then all remaining ballot batches would be the exact same percentage. Search for “drop and roll” on Gateway Pundit,

I could go on, but a massive organized effort to steal the election gave the corpse 81MM “votes”. The institutions we rely on to remedy this stuff were either inept or corrupt. I think the dems will concede these mid terms, but watch in the summer of 2023. There will be riots, race baiting, another Covid variant…something to make sure that election is held under duress to make sure they can ignore voter integrity measures so Hillary wins. Only hope is the red wave is so big they can’t cheat around it.
 
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fatman76 said:
Tens of millions more people voted for him in 2020…so who did he pick up to cover for all those who “switched”?
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Amazing, isn't it? It's like the Trump haters simply have zero critical thinking skills.

They claim Trump lost moderates and 'suburban women'. a popular talking point provided by lefty sites like Salon and Vanity Fair.

Ok, so if lost BOTH groups and STILL picked up votes, that means OTHER groups MASSIVELY BROKE FOR HIM.

That's the only way the numbers work out.

Forget Trump, look at Hiden: He got a higher percentage of black votes in dem run cities than obama did!

If THAT doesn't make you see the fraud, nothing will.
 
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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Amazing, isn't it? It's like the Trump haters simply have zero critical thinking skills.

They claim Trump lost moderates and 'suburban women'. a popular talking point provided by lefty sites like Salon and Vanity Fair.

Ok, so if lost BOTH groups and STILL picked up votes, that means OTHER groups MASSIVELY BROKE FOR HIM.

That's the only way the numbers work out.

Forget Trump, look at Hiden: He got a higher percentage of black votes in dem run cities than obama did!

If THAT doesn't make you see the fraud, nothing will.
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It’s literally like folks sit in front of their TV’s, and go….welp that’s the truth. Despite the fact that the media has been caught lying over and over again.

No research, no thinking for themselves, no common sense. Just gobble up whatever the glowing rectangle says.

We are never going to get anywhere until these folks get uncomfortable enough to “get off yer porches!!!!”
 
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fatman76 said:
There is so much proof it’s overwhelming, the issue is it wasn’t one tactic. It was several different methods…and we still haven’t figured out of the voting machines played a role

1) 2000 Mules was one way - there was an organized effort to pay people to stuff ballot boxes. If you want to debate the validity of that research fire away.
2) Voting laws were unconstitutionally changed. It removed things like signature verification, the curing process, timetables to vote, etc. Gov’s and SOS in the 5 key states acted like dictators when it’s clear the legislatures were the ones that were supposed to vote in these changes.
3) The judicial branch let the country down. They dismissed cases before the election based on standing (the election hadn’t happened yet) and then after using Latches (basically you waited too long and the remedy sought was impossible).
4) The counting process in the targeted 5 states was not bi partisan. Thousands of hours of witness testimony to the shady things they saw before they were kicked out…it was the same story over and over.
5) Statistical analysis showed impossible trends where ballot surges would put Biden just ahead and then all remaining ballot batches would be the exact same percentage. Search for “drop and roll” on Gateway Pundit,

I could go on, but a massive organized effort to steal the election gave the corpse 81MM “votes”. The institutions we rely on to remedy this stuff were either inept or corrupt. I think the dems will concede these mid terms, but watch in the summer of 2023. There will be riots, race baiting, another Covid variant…something to make sure that election is held under duress to make sure they can ignore voter integrity measures so Hillary wins. Only hope is the red wave is so big they can’t cheat around it.
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IMO the red wave for trump was SO BIG. That’s why they shut down counting. They had to. The support I have seen for Trump while traveling is overwhelming. Trump decorations, hats, shirts etc….everywhere (2 years after the election). That’s unprecedented.
 
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jfegaly said:
Goodness, I guess they stopped teaching to never say “In my opinion” when stating opinions, and not relaying facts. So yes, I am back to questioning our education system with you. I guess I missed all those facts you were bringing to the discussion, my apologies.

Maybe point me to the facts you brought, and if not, point me to where you stated “In my opinion” prior to every statement you made please.

As to the points you’ve trying to make, this country has serious corruption issues. None of which will actually get addressed by candidates trying to appease moderates with compromise. Thats how we got where we are today. Folks that mean well, and don’t want to rock the boat. Trump will go after all the corrupt idiots now that they have tried to burn him to the ground. I am not sure the other candidates will. The others I fear, will just play political football, and kick the can down the road. Yes, I include desantis, until he proves otherwise.

This country desperately needs a President that’s willing to burn the whole thing to the ground, and build it back up. The corruption is rampant.
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To think that Trump the Narcissist would be the one to do that is just truly asinine He is the king of crooks. A man who masterminded the whole bit about the democrats stealing the election when it was him and his crooked cronies that did that so he would have someone to blame when he lost the election. There is no one in this country who I trust less than Trump. God help this country if he runs again.
 
jimbo1313R said:
To think that Trump the Narcissist would be the one to do that is just truly asinine He is the king of crooks. A man who masterminded the whole bit about the democrats stealing the election when it was him and his crooked cronies that did that so he would have someone to blame when he lost the election. There is no one in this country who I trust less than Trump. God help this country if he runs again.
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Name a law that he has broke? The WORST one. You will not..because you are just making chit up AGAIN.
 
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jimbo1313R said:
To think that Trump the Narcissist would be the one to do that is just truly asinine He is the king of crooks. A man who masterminded the whole bit about the democrats stealing the election when it was him and his crooked cronies that did that so he would have someone to blame when he lost the election. There is no one in this country who I trust less than Trump. God help this country if he runs again.
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I suggest you do a little more homework on the pedophile you voted for. King of crooks my ass.
 
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jfegaly said:
I suggest you do a little more homework on the pedophile you voted for. King of crooks my ass.
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I have told you in the past, I did NOT vote for Biden. The choices were so bad I did not vote. I say crook, you say my ass. Moot point really, I hope the American people have wised up and Trump never makes it to the ballot.
 
jimbo1313R said:
I have told you in the past, I did NOT vote for Biden. The choices were so bad I did not vote. I say crook, you say my ass. Moot point really, I hope the American people have wised up and Trump never makes it to the ballot.
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Pretty bad ass moment



FWIW, for the “move on” crowd (mostly moderates) if you think electing desantis is going to “calm things down”, go read the replies. As I stated earlier, If Ron gets the nomination, he will be painted as more extreme than Trump.

Y’all going to “move on” again when that happens?
 
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jfegaly said:
Pretty bad ass moment

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FWIW, for the “move on” crowd (mostly moderates) if you think electing desantis is going to “calm things down”, go read the replies. As I stated earlier, If Ron gets the nomination, he will be painted as more extreme than Trump.

Y’all going to “move on” again when that happens?
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All of saw how well it worked out for The Nasty Pelosi and Brother Boner Ilhan Omar as they appeared on stage at at a concert/event.
 
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jfegaly said:
Pretty bad ass moment

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FWIW, for the “move on” crowd (mostly moderates) if you think electing desantis is going to “calm things down”, go read the replies. As I stated earlier, If Ron gets the nomination, he will be painted as more extreme than Trump.

Y’all going to “move on” again when that happens?
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They can paint all they want. DeSantis isn't going to play into their hands like Trump.
 
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jhgator said:
Oh no! Whatever will I do now that the cancel culture and insults are coming after me. That is weak.
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You and Theo are wasting your time. Block the Ghost...he’s an organizer for Trump. And a one note, limited Pied Piper.
Ignore him. And the lemmings who insult you.
 
GatorTheo said:
They can paint all they want. DeSantis isn't going to play into their hands like Trump.
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Why don’t you educate the board on how Trump played into their hands.

My hope is that we get a candidate like Bush that ignores the media and doesn’t play into their hands. That worked out well.
 
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jfegaly said:
Why don’t you educate the board on how Trump played into their hands.

My hope is that we get a candidate like Bush that ignores the media and doesn’t play into their hands. That worked out well.
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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Good point. That's the one thing I always hated about Trump, how he always played right into the media's hands. Got so sick of seeing Brian Steltzer and Don Lemon just embarrass Trump. Sad!
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I think what it is is.......you guys loved Trump "owning the libs" with his "mean tweets".

Most of the adult world saw that as a negative for a guy who's the President of the United States.

I know you don't understand and that's OK.
 
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GatorTheo said:
I think what it is is.......you guys loved Trump "owning the libs" with his "mean tweets".

Most of the adult world saw that as a negative for a guy who's the President of the United States.

I know you don't understand and that's OK.
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Thats not it at all. For the first time in my lifetime, we had a President who did what he said he was going to do, and wasn’t afraid to speak his mind. (Not be a politician)

A president who had enough money to truly do what’s best for America, and not his wallet.
 
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GatorTheo said:
I think what it is is.......you guys loved Trump "owning the libs" with his "mean tweets".

Most of the adult world saw that as a negative for a guy who's the President of the United States.

I know you don't understand and that's OK.
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Nothing wrong with it when it was called for. When spending the political capital was worth it, I loved his mean tweets. He fought back and that shocked people.

However, sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. Calling an insignificant person fat and stupid probably wasn't worth his time.
 
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BamaFan1137 said:
Nothing wrong with it when it was called for. When spending the political capital was worth it, I loved his mean tweets. He fought back and that shocked people.

However, sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. Calling an insignificant person fat and stupid probably wasn't worth his time.
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I loved that he riled up the left. A lot of it was right on target. But I always figured after a few months, he'd settle down and act appropriately. He angered a bunch of people who otherwise would appreciate the actual work he was doing. He could have beaten Biden's butt if he'd just acted like a responsible adult.
 
GatorTheo said:
I think what it is is.......you guys loved Trump "owning the libs" with his "mean tweets".

Most of the adult world saw that as a negative for a guy who's the President of the United States.

I know you don't understand and that's OK.
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Sigh. It was never about what Trump did. It was ALWAYS about how the libs REACTED TO WHAT HE DID.

Trump made the libs tell on themselves. He made them panic and make mistakes. He made them drop their mask and show who they are and what they really want for America.

It's stunning that some of you missed all that, but are still focused on the 'unpresidential' thing that Trump did. Talk about missing the forest for the trees.
 
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jfegaly said:
Again. You still have said nothing about what the Declaration of Independence says about our God given right to LIFE, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, but congrats on reciting Moby Dick. Do you believe those are God given rights or not? Pretty simple.

pssstt. Go read my post again, the DEI is exactly where I said that statement was located. You’re just pissed because you cannot explain it away. In fact, you have tried to use the very same statement in your arguments on here before as God given rights.

here is your quote:

“Now, are you saying do not have sex because you might have a baby, and "tough". Well then, buddy, you are getting in the middle of my "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness".


You don’t get to pick and choose when those rights apply sir. Seems like you just might be getting “in the middle of a baby’s life, liberty, and the pursuit of happines.” So either you believe those are God given rights, or you don’t. Which is it? Please answer that question. I bet you won’t.

Also, no need to tell us how wealthy you are in an attempt to validate your intelligence level. You have already informed us, and we all know that you must be super smart based on
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BamaFan1137 said:
Nothing wrong with it when it was called for. When spending the political capital was worth it, I loved his mean tweets. He fought back and that shocked people.

However, sometimes discretion is the better part of valor. Calling an insignificant person fat and stupid probably wasn't worth his time.
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Tweets or comments like: “Pocahontas” resonated because it highlighted both hypocracy and abuse of the system. It also put EW to the sidelines. Simple messaging and brilliant.

“Discretion is the better part of valor” - precisely. That was his flaw.

biden is so diminishing so quickly that many quietly believe he would lose to Trump.

ghost - to your “art of war” perspective, so how does Trump force Biden to run again and debate him - say five times, with a perspective that part of the steal was the “hidin”. Biden without notes rarely can finish exchanges.

also Ghost, who in your opinion is Trump’s running mate?
 
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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Sigh. It was never about what Trump did. It was ALWAYS about how the libs REACTED TO WHAT HE DID.

Trump made the libs tell on themselves. He made them panic and make mistakes. He made them drop their mask and show who they are and what they really want for America.

It's stunning that some of you missed all that, but are still focused on the 'unpresidential' thing that Trump did. Talk about missing the forest for the trees.
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Yeah....Trump really showed them! I mean, he lost to a doddering, racist, pedo but, other than that, he really showed them.
 
GatorTheo said:
He could have beaten Biden's butt if he'd just acted like a responsible adult.
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Critical thinking is a lost art in this country.

It's not even critical thinking, it's common sense.

Trump is the most popular republican OF ALL TIME.

Just so everyone is clear on what you are saying: You are saying that Joseph Robbinette Hiden *EASILY* beat the most popular republican OF ALL TIME.

But you need that to be true to justify the Trump hate. Never mind that common sense says that's impossible.
 
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GatorTheo said:
I loved that he riled up the left. A lot of it was right on target. But I always figured after a few months, he'd settle down and act appropriately. He angered a bunch of people who otherwise would appreciate the actual work he was doing. He could have beaten Biden's butt if he'd just acted like a responsible adult.
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He angered the pu** ies
 
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GatorTheo said:
I loved that he riled up the left. A lot of it was right on target. But I always figured after a few months, he'd settle down and act appropriately. He angered a bunch of people who otherwise would appreciate the actual work he was doing. He could have beaten Biden's butt if he'd just acted like a responsible adult.
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I don't think that he should have settled down after a few months. I just think he should have been more selective and those comments more targeted.
 
jfegaly said:
Either you believe the election was stolen or you don’t?
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It's obvious that there was significant fraud. Not sure if it was enough to change the outcome. I think Trump would have won a landslide had he grown up in the last couple of years.
 
GatorTheo said:
It's obvious that there was significant fraud. Not sure if it was enough to change the outcome. I think Trump would have won a landslide had he grown up in the last couple of years.
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So you believe that Trump's lead would have been insurmountable if he had stopped mean tweeting?

Not sure I agree. Not sure a lead can be cheat proof.
 
BamaFan1137 said:
So you believe that Trump's lead would have been insurmountable if he had stopped mean tweeting?

Not sure I agree. Not sure a lead can be cheat proof.
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I do. Biden was obviously a moron. He was dead in the water during the primaries until people started dropping out to support him.

People voted for him because he wasn't Trump. It hurt the republicans in the senate too.
 
GatorTheo said:
I do. Biden was obviously a moron. He was dead in the water during the primaries until people started dropping out to support him.

People voted for him because he wasn't Trump. It hurt the republicans in the senate too.
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Interesting. Obviously I agree that he could have neen more selective but I also think that the opposition would have simply dumped more ballots.
 
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