Bombshell: DNC ( RATS ) colluded with Ukraine
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Nothing new about blaming Trump for your f*** ups
Well, I’m not the one who started the trade wars.
And I’m not sure how I ****ed up, but if that makes you feel better.
There are 4 family groups in the world. Four. They are: East Asian. European Caucasian. Indigenous American. Sub-Saharan African. That's it. A guy from Norway generally looks different than a guy from Italy, although from the same family group.
I'm 12 percent Indigenous American, 9 percent East Asian, 25 percent Sub-Saharan African and 54 percent European Caucasian so Genelex Labs in Seattle tells me. The 9 percent East Asian comes from the Cherokee who are believed to be last to walk across the Bering Strait to North America.
I'm 12 percent Indigenous American, 9 percent East Asian, 25 percent Sub-Saharan African and 54 percent European Caucasian so Genelex Labs in Seattle tells me. The 9 percent East Asian comes from the Cherokee who are believed to be last to walk across the Bering Strait to North America.
But you don't see our options on the left as dangerous to our country? Haha, ok.
You are correct and free trade is the goal...on both sides. It should be expected and you should be demanding it.
Tell me you're smart enough to see and understand that. When their markets are unfair to the point of damaging our economy, causing hard working middle Americans to lose their jobs, further crippling our economy, it's time to negotiate. Negotiating from a point of weakness is probably unwise...agree.
But by all means, you just keep focusing on the big bad orange man 'cuz he caused all of this, right? lmao...beyond absurd.
Didn't you later change your story and claim your imaginary portfolio was up?
Did you thank your President Trump?
Have I ever said that? In fact, most of the Dems running are quite dangerous, especially the hardcore socialists. You people just can’t understand that not everyone isn’t a blind partisan, can you?
That doesn’t mean I have to approve of the current resident.
To a point, I agree. But messing with the free market is a dangerous proposition, and there are always unintended consequences, as we are finding out.
But yes, he started the trade wars, which he called “good, and easy to win.” He’s clueless.
And you approve of zero criticism of your hero hussein. Your butthurt over that started your racist spiel, didn't it?
I'll assure you that I'm not a blind partisan either. If I had to define myself, I'm mostly liberal on social issues, save a few, but a fiscal conservative.
I think Trump is the right guy for the times we're in. Don't get me wrong, I don't particularly care for the man himself. I voted for him but I wouldn't invite him to my house for dinner. He says a lot of stupid shit but, like it or not, or like him or not, he is a masterful negotiator and that's what we need today.
Back to you...if not Trump, or the whack-a-doo's on the left, then who?
No friend, he reacted to a trade war that began in the late 80's. Obviously it's gotten much worse recently (20 years or so) but it began after the cold war subsided. We've tried many things to get our "allies" to open their markets and we've all but begged the Chinese to stop manipulating currency...to no avail.
Trump stood up. You may disagree and maybe you believe he should have given one of the previous failed policies another try but this may well be our last good shot to turn things around. It's that serious.
In terms that may be more familiar for you...blaming Trump for the trade war is tantamount to blaming Clinton for the dot-com bust...but more ridiculous.
I supported Kasich. I’d be comfortable with most of the other Pubs who ran against Trump, except maybe Cruz. I really like Romney. On the Dem side, I don’t really know much about most of them. None strike a lot of confidence. I’d vote for Biden over Trump. Most of the rest, I’d probably vote third party.
Trump instituted the tariffs, which China retaliated in kind which has caused harm to out farms and many manufacturing entities. The costs have been passed onto us consumers. That’s on him.
The previous system, while not perfect, is much better than what we have today. We traded low wage jobs for cheap goods. That’s hardly a lose/lose, considering unemployment is near an all time low. In a capitalist system, money flows to the lowest cost of production.
PS. He’s not as great a negotiator as you think. He’s naive about international finance.
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Irony. Dims are the least self-aware demographic inhaling our atmosphere
This is a frigging doozy of a post without logic or discernment
Trump has a score of foreign properties in 9 other countries on four different continents. Financing those endeavors was NOT all US capital. One does not accomplish that without significant involvement in international finance.... a damn sight more than most people in the country, and way the hell more than most elected representatives worried solely about shell-gaming their terms into retirement stateside
Really, how the tell can you possibly be a) this stupid or b) so blind sidedly partisan? I can freely admit Trumps steps on his pecker alot....but anti-Trumpers like you make schit up in the face of overwhelming opposing fact - mind blowing
An undeniable truth. Trump is not a plantation cracker. Black Americans, Asian Americans and Hispanic Americans now see the lowest unemployment numbers ever recorded.
I'm tickled "pink" with his judge selections. A Kasich or Romney would have been business as usual.
20 communists promise a return to economic stagnation, higher crime rates and rationed health care. Color me "orange".
I'm tickled "pink" with his judge selections. A Kasich or Romney would have been business as usual.
20 communists promise a return to economic stagnation, higher crime rates and rationed health care. Color me "orange".
Speaking of clueless, the 'war' has been ongoing for decades. We finally have a pro-America President who is fighting for our best interests. Another reason why the dems hate him.
@BSC911 misses the days when the US President bowed down and bent over for other countries around the world, giving away all our economic leverage and killing our economy in the process.
2016 seems so long ago now, doesn't it?
This explains so much. I'm betting you think Fox News is garbage too, except for that Shepard Smith, who you think is aces.
Aren't the benefits of the tariffs on him as well? Funny how you dems never acknowledge that.
The tariffs are working because now for the first time in decades, China is coming to the negotiating table to end them and get better trade deals with the US.
Instead of repeating MSNBC talking points that are incorrect, maybe you should ask yourself why your beloved hussein couldn't and wouldn't do the same thing?
Remember when the Chinese refused to even give Air Force One steps so hussein could get off the plane? Talk about disrespect.
Meanwhile, Trump gets the red carpet treatment, America gets better trade deals with China, America gets more money and more jobs.
And dems hate Trump even more as a result. Because dems hate America.
OK, fair enough. Change that to international trade. He is a real estate guy. He doesn’t understand how manufacturing and distribution businesses work. He’s failed in just about every retail business he’s operated in.
He’s a very successful real estate investor, through the use of debt and leverage, and has leveraged the Trump brand name into millions. Kudos to him for that. But that doesn’t mean he understands how international trade works. Tillerson called him naive.
Sorry, you guys may be impressed with his flashy hotels and golf courses, but the guy didn’t even understand who pays the tariffs he implemented.
Who pays for the ones that got lowered or removed?
China. That's why they are wanting to negotiate new deals. Looks like he understands international trade just fine.
Likewise, I get a chuckle out of you undergrad educated folk.
Liberal Arts do not count.
I couldn't disagree more with almost every word in this post.
He did institute the tariffs. Who does that harm more IYO? The country that exports a ton of ish or the country that imports a ton of ish? Yes, the price of cheap electronics will rise for US consumers temporarily.
You mentioned what's happening to our soybean farmers...imagine what's happening to their exporters. That's obviously a MUCH bigger market segment and their economy is also much more vulnerable at the moment. It's the right time and moment for this move, have a little faith.
Let's not forget that before the crazy orange one first began to consider running for POTUS as a Pub he was never called or considered a racist. He simply became one when he did...like magic.
Also, China isn't the only nation that employs 12 year old girls in sweatshops. Our $340 billion trade deficit with China is largely up for grabs if they don't come to the table with solutions that work for both economies.
The tariffs are a short term issue for us but the Chinese are in an absolute jam and they know it. We will have to help them save face but I promise you that if we stick to our guns, China will break. If Trump wins the next election, we will 100% "win" this trade war. If that's not worth my vote, what is?
The tariffs are a short term issue for us but the Chinese are in an absolute jam and they know it. We will have to help them save face but I promise you that if we stick to our guns, China will break. If Trump wins the next election, we will 100% "win" this trade war. If that's not worth my vote, what is?
My last point on the subject, China has retarded their own economy for decades with their restrictions on US imports. Longterm this will be a win for them as well. There is power in being the worlds supplier of goods (see Great Britain in 1600's thru late 1800's) but there is also a ton of power in having the largest open market consumer base (see Great Britain vs the US late 1800's thru today).
China can become both the worlds leading producer and worlds leading consumer of goods. That won't happen with a false (manufactured) economy and that is what they have today.
China can become both the worlds leading producer and worlds leading consumer of goods. That won't happen with a false (manufactured) economy and that is what they have today.
So your point is that as long as it it hurts China more than the US, it’s a good plan. Tell that to the farmers having to shut down, or the companies having to pay more for their materials. Not to mention other people that sell into China. We call that a lose/lose deal.
In your scenario, a worldwide recession would be a good thing. I can tell your not an economist.
No the point is that if it improves things for the US, that's what counts.
And this does. That's why China is currently in the US begging for a better deal, and it's why you dems are so mad.
In a negotiation where you're trying to get your adversary to the table? Abso-freaking-lutely. Our trade deficit with China is unsustainable. If you don't believe me, ask an economist with a 3 digit IQ.
You're a silly person and it's very difficult to have a serious conversation with you...but I've made the effort. It's damn hard to teach you something when you seem adamantly opposed to learning.
If you're honest, the reason you hate what's happening is because Trump's behind it. I'm getting bored with you so make a valid point based on concrete facts (that I will promptly destroy) or you're going to lose my attention.
Then by all means, and be specific...where am I wrong?
Is our trade deficit with China sustainable?
Does a trade war hurt the importers more than the exporters?
Is China's economy in a better position to sustain a trade war than our economy?
Should world leaders negotiate from a position of weakness and just hope for the best?
Be specific smart guy, where did I go wrong?
I've had a trade deficit with HEB super markets since my migration to Texas. I'm still here.
The U. S. dollar is the world's reserve currency. As long as the buck keeps such status, deficits are sustainable. We print at will. Should the buck lose such status, we're Greece. China has made efforts to wound the buck but so far, no dice.
Trump's efforts to trim deficits are noteworthy and could prove beneficial.
The U. S. dollar is the world's reserve currency. As long as the buck keeps such status, deficits are sustainable. We print at will. Should the buck lose such status, we're Greece. China has made efforts to wound the buck but so far, no dice.
Trump's efforts to trim deficits are noteworthy and could prove beneficial.
https://apple.news/AyN-_CjD-Tu-DCH3xKqmXEA
The tentative truce underwhelmed some international businesses that had been hoping the U.S. and China would finish up a deal that cemented more sweeping structural changes in China’s economy, eliminated additional tariffs scheduled to go into place in December and even rolled back existing tariffs both sides have added to imports from each country
This announcement of an impending deal hardly resolves any of the major underlying sources of trade and economic frictions between the two countries,” said Eswar Prasad, a China expert and an economist at Cornell University. “And from the perspective of businesses, it does not mitigate uncertainty about the future of the bilateral economic relationship.
