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Well, yesterday I turned 68, but my wife & I celebrated tonight. Saw the movie 1917 and ate at the best Indian restaurant in the Ocala/Gainesville area - Amrit Palace - chicken tandoori, lamb curry, split pea garlic soup, naan, several other sides and mango ice cream. Had a great time while all ya'll suffered through another bad Gator BB loss. Such a sad, disappointing season and I'm glad I missed it. Will probably miss a few more and am now following gymnastics closely and looking forward to baseball and softball. Go Gators!.
I think you overestimate us pre-Billy. One SEC regular season title, no SEC tourney titles, 5 NCAA appearances (two vacated by the NCAA), and one magical, incomprehensible run to the final four. It took us 48 years to make the NCAA tourney, 50 years to make a visit that the NCAA recognizes.
Next year Mike White will become the third winningest coach in Florida Gator History.
He doesn't deserve another year, and neither did muschamp, but he will get one unfortunately. And you are spot on, he is in over his head and has been.
Those 2 coaches pre-Donovan did pretty good considering what they had when taking over.
Honestiy I hope he isn’t here next year and the rate it is going. I don’t feel like going through another subpar season with no light at the end of the tunnel. I will say it again. Why delay the inevitable??
At this point, I'm not picky. Sadgator asked that same question.....So youre supposed to keep a bad coach forever or until one unforeseen year when somebody great unexpectedly becomes available? It's better to take a chance on somebody else, give him a 3 year contract at a low pay for UF(but great for the coach).....and see how things go. That's better than going year after year settling for bad seasons while wishing upon a star,so to speak, that that somebody with a lot of renown will become available.
Uf has 11 games left, and only 3 of those are to good teams(UK and LSU). Yet, I wouldn't be surprised if UF lost 5 out of 8 to the bad teams.
I wouldn't be surprised if they lost to Vandy.
Yet some people can watch this season, see the out of control fire, and blame it on youth or not realize that making the tourney is not an accomplishment. As someone else stated, uf shouldn't have made it last year if not for reputation.
What's the worst that could happen by making a coaching change with a questionable or unproven coach? Not making the tourney? Well we are close to that scenario already.
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Seriously, if we don't make the tourney last year, like we shouldn't have, then white would be on a serious hot seat right now. Unless a miracle happens, we are not going to make the tourney this year. That would have been enough to make a move. Regardless of how this season finishes, white will be around next season.
Looks like another year of white knuckling the second half of the SEC season, hopefully finishing a couple games over .500 and crossing our fingers on tourney announcement day. This roster is better than that. White deserves another year, regardless of the outcome this year, although missing the tourney with this roster would be a serious screw up. But he’s got to do better than this. Expectations at this job are higher and rightfully so.
White would tell you that if he were being truthful. He didn’t take this job to finish 2 games over .500 in the SEC every year, guaranteed.
Oh.... he needs to go... I’m just asking who the realistic candidates are?
Anthony Grant ?
Rick Pitino?
Texas tech coach (I would think not)
do you try to get steve wojo from Marquette hoping that he’s not in line for the duke job?
mike Miller is with Penny right now (not enough experience I guess)
I’m at a loss
Anthony Grant ?
Rick Pitino?
Texas tech coach (I would think not)
do you try to get steve wojo from Marquette hoping that he’s not in line for the duke job?
mike Miller is with Penny right now (not enough experience I guess)
I’m at a loss
It was the anniversary of my birth, but thanks. Our 45th wedding anniversary is coming up in September. We have 2 healthy, productive adult children, 4 healthy, bright grandkids, a great group of friends and a wonderful church family. Lots to be thankful for and all that puts in perspective the concern about Florida basketball. Hate what's going on, but really not that important in the scheme of things.
Frankly, at this point.....I would be taking a chance/ making an offer at anyone with a shred of upward success at the program they started with. Uf is going downward.
Lol but I'm probably more in recovery mode than UF is.
Funny thing is that I didn't watch a single second of this game, nor kept track of the score while it was being played.
Before I did get a chance to check the outcome, i had a feeling they lost. That's a bad feeling as a fan....that you expect to lose, no matter who you play. Winning, shouldn't have to be a joyous surprise.
Before I did get a chance to check the outcome, i had a feeling they lost. That's a bad feeling as a fan....that you expect to lose, no matter who you play. Winning, shouldn't have to be a joyous surprise.
The trolls are out in this thread..beware..look closely and you will see (who)...just saying...
...and sadgator will admit now we have a problem...no excuse for that...Blackshear’s regression is sad...really thought we would start to see them coming together. They aren’t. Still think we make the tourney, but it’ll be razor thin close.
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Only thing I have to say about the article, the author said Miss State was a good team. I would say decent, at best. They also are a mixed bag of results.
Trolls or not, "they" could spot real problems. Some can spot the danger when it's just smoke, others can only see it when it's a fire.
....just saying...
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Despite my criticisms, I also would give him one more year....even if UF goes to the NIT. Im not joyful in anyone losing their job, and one more year would be gracious if this year ends up in the toilet.
My criticisms are to the recognition that the seat should be warming up.
If we are not making moves to coordinate a change, we should be. We don't want the fan outrage to reach a crescendo and then start to look at a change, because then we are in panic mode and end up with a joke of a coaching search. We need to identify our target or targets, look at their contracts, and decide who makes sense from both a basketball and economic standpoint. I don't think we can get Billy back, he seems to have figured the NBA out, winning games with little to no star power, which is hard to do. Unless Oklahoma decides to try for the lottery next year, which would mean dumping Billy and getting somebody useless for anything except losing a lot of games. Anthony Grant would seem the favorite, great Florida ties and seems to be coming into his own. Only fear there is we might be grooming Calipari's successor. Other than that, I have no clue what we might do. But we need to do it.
Personally, I had hoped when Billy Donovan left for OKC, Jeremy Fooooley would have hired Archie Miller to replace Donovan. Miller seems to be doing well at Indiana. Right now, I will take Anthony Grant, but right now, there's no end in sight as far as letting go of Mike White.
We don’t just now have a problem. We had a problem a few years ago that still hasn’t been fixed. We have a coach that is in over his head and doesn’t have any answers what so ever.
My wish list when white was hired was
1. Xavier former coach
2. Archie Miller
3. Greg Marshall
4. Wojo
at the time of the White hire, UF was basically coming off of the 4 years of E8’s and final 4’s..
This was akin to when Foley handed the Football job to Muschamp.
The UF job is still elite... the banners are still hanging up and major league success is still pretty recent...
I hope Stricklin sees and understands that.
White is more of a mid major coach.... (nothing wrong with that)... he’s just in way over his head (and always has been)
his interviews scream “deer in headlights”... I almost feel bad for him.
1. Xavier former coach
2. Archie Miller
3. Greg Marshall
4. Wojo
at the time of the White hire, UF was basically coming off of the 4 years of E8’s and final 4’s..
This was akin to when Foley handed the Football job to Muschamp.
The UF job is still elite... the banners are still hanging up and major league success is still pretty recent...
I hope Stricklin sees and understands that.
White is more of a mid major coach.... (nothing wrong with that)... he’s just in way over his head (and always has been)
his interviews scream “deer in headlights”... I almost feel bad for him.
Computer projects that we have about an 80% chance to get an at large bid at the end still but they don't have a Coach White adjustment factor.
We better go at least 4-1 in the next 5 games or we will be sweating that out big time at the end.
We better go at least 4-1 in the next 5 games or we will be sweating that out big time at the end.
Too razor thin for my liking.... and too inconsistent....
They better basically run the table for the next 4-5 (winnable games)
I can’t root again UF, but I find myself in the “Mcelwain” position, where I’m not sure if it’s best to go ahead and implode for the greater good, or squeak by and have to do all of this again next year (inevitably)?
They better basically run the table for the next 4-5 (winnable games)
I can’t root again UF, but I find myself in the “Mcelwain” position, where I’m not sure if it’s best to go ahead and implode for the greater good, or squeak by and have to do all of this again next year (inevitably)?
We're 20 games into the season & Coach White is "looking to get control of his team"? Huh!
https://247sports.com/college/flori...looking-to-get-control-of-his-team-142886543/
https://247sports.com/college/flori...looking-to-get-control-of-his-team-142886543/
If they lose the next two games then I don't think they will recover enough wins to get in the tournament, unless they beat lsu and uk(both times). I was thinking about that "greater good" scenario as well. lol
Well at least he is calling the team out for effort and acting like they will have some practices they might not like to help correct that. Generally I don't think it's that helpful for the coach to blame players but have no issue when it's about a lack of effort on defense. I don't trust White to have too many games where the offense rolls the whole game against good competition.
He’s in way over his head. He has no answers. There is just no consistency whatsoever in any part of the basketball program. Barring a miracle it’s time to cut bait.
I'm generally against calling out the players as well. However, at this point, what's to lose? Something different needs to be done.
On another note, It's so weird to see FSU/Hamilton do so well recently, whereas UF has been limping along.
