will ole miss make a run at Mike White?
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Then on to the Big Apple and the NIT
And as I've said many times before, you saying that is actually a positive, when considering how often you are totally FoS here...
PS
UF finished 9-9 in the power house SEC. (again with 7-8 teams in the Dance)
Where did your Chokers finish in the has-been Big 12/10/whatever???
I heard that it was 7-11,,,
-- is that correct? If so, then enjoy the NIT,,, IF they give you an invite that is... (chokers finished 7th in a crappy 10 team has-been conference)
And as I've said many times before, you saying that is actually a positive, when considering how often you are totally FoS here...
PS
UF finished 9-9 in the power house SEC. (again with 7-8 teams in the Dance)
Where did your Chokers finish in the has-been Big 12/10/whatever???
I heard that it was 7-11,,,
Powerhouse?
14 teams you have 3 good teams?
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
As of today, the SEC's SOS is #2 behind the Big 12, RPI is #4 behind the Big 12, ACC & Big 10. Pretty strong conference.
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html
The Gators are 13th in the SEC in scoring offense (68.3 ppg).
Why is that? Is it because of Mike White's simplistic offense?
Well, maybe this has something to do with it.
The Gators are 12th in field-goal percentage (.423).
They are 10th in 3-point percentage (.374).
Over the previous 3 games (all losses), UF has gone just 17 of 64 from the Arc, (.266).
Florida's leading scorer is just 9-for-41 from the floor (21.9 %) and 3-for-19 from the Arc (15.8%) over the previous 4 games.
Throw in the 3 missing Gator front court players and LSU and Kentucky were +26 on the glass.
And something to keep in mind while raggin' on Coach Mike White: NET 35
#1 = Florida's strength of schedule rank among SEC teams, according to KenPom.com, which also ranks UF's non-conference schedule as the most difficult in the league.
Mike White's coaching on defense is about the only thing that has kept the Gators in the conversation for a spot in the dance, but he still can't shoot the ball for them...
Why is that? Is it because of Mike White's simplistic offense?
Well, maybe this has something to do with it.
The Gators are 12th in field-goal percentage (.423).
They are 10th in 3-point percentage (.374).
Over the previous 3 games (all losses), UF has gone just 17 of 64 from the Arc, (.266).
Florida's leading scorer is just 9-for-41 from the floor (21.9 %) and 3-for-19 from the Arc (15.8%) over the previous 4 games.
Throw in the 3 missing Gator front court players and LSU and Kentucky were +26 on the glass.
And something to keep in mind while raggin' on Coach Mike White: NET 35
#1 = Florida's strength of schedule rank among SEC teams, according to KenPom.com, which also ranks UF's non-conference schedule as the most difficult in the league.
Mike White's coaching on defense is about the only thing that has kept the Gators in the conversation for a spot in the dance, but he still can't shoot the ball for them...
Mike White doesn't develop players,,, and here's the proof of it....
https://floridagators.com/news/2019/3/13/mens-basketball-more-motor-keyed-johnsons-playing-time.aspx
https://floridagators.com/news/2019/3/13/mens-basketball-more-motor-keyed-johnsons-playing-time.aspx
The reason why we can’t shoot is because they offensive system and philosophy is crap. No ball movement and players standing around on the perimeter and then we are scrambling and throwing up a bad shot due to the shot clock winding down. We don’t get good looks at the basket, therefore FG% is lousy.
I agree with you, but you have to admit that it's really hard to come up with an offensive scheme when you don't have an inside presence at all. Hayes is a hard worker and plays his tail off. But he's just not a guy you can go to in an offensive set. They try to to that when Stokes is in there and he does OK, although he feels he has to shoot every time he touches the ball and makes bad decisions about half the time. Nembhard makes some good back door passes every now and then, but too many times they try to force passes inside and turn it over. They just don't have the players to work an inside out game. But no doubt there is too much time wasting dribbling with little to no movement and then a forced shot as the clock winds down. Happens with regularity every game.
Whose fault is it that after 4 years we don’t have any big men or inside presence though?
Saying stupid crap over and over taco, won't make it true or you correct.
Yep, trolls and/or local village idiots are rallying up for another go of 'whistling past the O'Dome' and wishing that UF had never found Mike White.
WAC CoY
C-USA CoY
SEC CoY
WoW! What a complete loser as a B-Ball coach...
Filling holes that were left to him, Mike recruited both Barry and 3-Gor.
And his offense works pretty well when the players execute it and make shots.
And still waiting for the B-Ball genius types to critique that vid...
Lunardi has moved us down to the last 4 in, putting us in a play-in game vs. N.C. State and then the winner taking on #6 Nevada. Jerry Palm at CBSSports has us in the first 4 OUT group. DRatings.com has us in the first 4 OUT group. TRBrackets gives us only a 25% chance to get in. We are definitely on the bubble and in a precarious situation. Beating Arkansas helps, but it may take beating LSU as well. We'll see.
Gorjan Gak & Dontay Bassett were solid 3 star big men recruits. Isaiah Stokes, Keith Stone & Chase Johnson were highly touted 4 star recruits. That's pretty good recruiting IMO. You can't blame Coach White for the injuries to Gak, Stokes, Stone & Johnson, nor for the decision Johnson made to transfer after he couldn't clear concussion protocol for over a year. And we knew Stokes would miss last year due to surgery after high school, but it's not White's fault that Stokes admittedly refused to listen to his coaches and fix his diet and get in shape so he could contribute most of this season. Gak's knees may never let him play again, but that's not the coach's fault. Hayes was recruited to be a power forward and he's been forced to play the 5 position, which has gotten him in foul trouble a lot. And he wasn't recruited to be a go to guy inside and coaches can't be expected to get blood from a turnip and make guys perform above their abilities. Hayes is the hardest playing player on the team, but he's simply not much of an offensive threat. That's not on the coaches, except to their credit they've gotten him to play extremely hard every game. I have my issues with Mike White this year and have doubts about whether he can return Florida basketball to a Donovan-type level. But we can't blame the guy for injuries to so many big men.
Saying stupid crap over and over taco, won't make it true or you correct.
Yep, trolls and/or local village idiots are rallying up for another go of 'whistling past the O'Dome' and wishing that UF had never found Mike White.
WAC CoY
C-USA CoY
SEC CoY
WoW! What a complete loser as a B-Ball coach...
Filling holes that were left to him, Mike recruited both Barry and 3-Gor.
And his offense works pretty well when the players execute it and make shots.
And still waiting for the B-Ball genius types to critique that vid...
UF 66 - 50 Ark
Johnson, meanwhile, had arguably his finest game in a UF uniform, making 8 of his 14 shots (57.1%), including 3 of 5 (60%) 3-point attempts, to go with his 12 rebounds, 6 coming on the offensive end, as the Gators won resoundingly on the glass, 41-26. When he was done, Johnson was the first Florida freshman to tally a double-double in the SEC Tournament since Donnell Harvey got 11 points and 12 rebounds in a win over Ole Miss in 2000.
UF 66 - 50 Ark
Johnson, meanwhile, had arguably his finest game in a UF uniform, making 8 of his 14 shots (57.1%), including 3 of 5 (60%) 3-point attempts, to go with his 12 rebounds, 6 coming on the offensive end, as the Gators won resoundingly on the glass, 41-26. When he was done, Johnson was the first Florida freshman to tally a double-double in the SEC Tournament since Donnell Harvey got 11 points and 12 rebounds in a win over Ole Miss in 2000.
No one listens to you, because you're obtuse.
If we were talking about chefs, and said that your favorite chef makes awful breakfast food, which is a problem because his job is to make breakfast food, you'd argue about how it's not his fault because the guy that brought him the eggs broke half the eggs, and that when he was in culinary school, is waffles were really good.
Then you'd probably link a story about someone saying he made really good pancakes one time, and you'd use that as evidence of his great culinary skills, despite the fact that something as simple as pancakes is pretty mandatory, just like biscuits and gravy, but his biscuits and gravy are always awful.
But god damnit he made a pancake one time that was so good in culinary school that obviously he's the best.
The dunny-goater, nothing of any value to ever add to any conversation.
Talking outta you arse while attempting to speak for everybody is your trademark. You know even less about sports than you do about women or having any kind of meaningful relationships. Go back to swilling your alcohol like a good drunk, it's about all you're good at...
Talking outta you arse while attempting to speak for everybody is your trademark. You know even less about sports than you do about women or having any kind of meaningful relationships. Go back to swilling your alcohol like a good drunk, it's about all you're good at...
The dunny-goater, nothing of any value to ever add to any conversation.
Talking outta you arse while attempting to speak for everybody is your trademark. You know even less about sports than you do about women or having any kind of meaningful relationships. Go back to swilling your alcohol like a good drunk, it's about all you're good at...
Always so clever.
Year 1 - Takes a previous 16-17 loser team to the NIT Quarter Finals, with zero home games due to O'Dome renovations, and finishes with 21 Wins.
Year 2 - Elite 8, SEC CoY (previous WAC & C-USA CoY)
Year 3 - Rnd of 32 without C Egbunu rsSr
Year 4 - SEC Tourney Quarter Final already, with his 3rd consecutive Dance in the wings.
Accomplished that without C-Gak Jr, PF C.Johnson So, PF K.Stone rsJr, & starting 3 tFr.
Went 2-1 vs SEC-C LSU. The one loss was by 1 Pt in OT.
Currently - 19-14, 9-9 plus 2-0 Tourney (11-9) SEC
The 2018-19 final results are yet to be seen.
Only pure haters, rival trolls, or total village idiots would continue to diss on Coach White.
Year 2 - Elite 8, SEC CoY (previous WAC & C-USA CoY)
Year 3 - Rnd of 32 without C Egbunu rsSr
Year 4 - SEC Tourney Quarter Final already, with his 3rd consecutive Dance in the wings.
Accomplished that without C-Gak Jr, PF C.Johnson So, PF K.Stone rsJr, & starting 3 tFr.
Went 2-1 vs SEC-C LSU. The one loss was by 1 Pt in OT.
Currently - 19-14, 9-9 plus 2-0 Tourney (11-9) SEC
The 2018-19 final results are yet to be seen.
Only pure haters, rival trolls, or total village idiots would continue to diss on Coach White.
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Can you imagine what it's going to be like next season with these 2 guys on the floor at the same time?
SF/CG Scottie Lewis ***** - 13/50
SF/CG Keyontae Johnson **** - 62/100
And for anyone that thinks that those are just HS highlights, keep in mind what KJ has already done at UF this season as a true freshman.
SF/CG Scottie Lewis ***** - 13/50
SF/CG Keyontae Johnson **** - 62/100
And for anyone that thinks that those are just HS highlights, keep in mind what KJ has already done at UF this season as a true freshman.
Pitiful little loser drunk, always begging for my attention.
Tedious, boring, and clueless about most everything...
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
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TG thinks he's funny,,, and now needs a trip to a waffle house.
While the dog-poker kisses dunny-goater's arse at every opportunity.
Everything is as it should be,,, at least here it is...
Tedious, boring, and clueless about most everything...
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
=====
TG thinks he's funny,,, and now needs a trip to a waffle house.
While the dog-poker kisses dunny-goater's arse at every opportunity.
Everything is as it should be,,, at least here it is...
Pitiful little loser drunk, always begging for my attention.
Tedious, boring, and clueless about most everything...
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
=====
TG thinks he's funny,,, and now needs a trip to a waffle house.
While the dog-poker kisses dunny-goater's arse at every opportunity.
Everything is as it should be,,, at least here it is...
Let me know when Mike White makes acceptable biscuits and gravy.
Pitiful little loser drunk, always begging for my attention.
Tedious, boring, and clueless about most everything...
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
Tedious, boring, and clueless about most everything...
There once was a goater named dunny,
who was always trying to be funny.
But with his head up his butt,
and a load of beer in his gutt,
when it came to the girls he got nunny...
Nevada looks lost and confused. Don't they realize our patented second-half 8 minute scoring drought is coming up soon?
Thankfully being 18 points ahead was too much for them to come back during our swoon. They ran out of gas at the end.
Oh, what the heck. Let's beat Michigan too.
Oh, what the heck. Let's beat Michigan too.
Very impressive win by the Gators. K. Hayes was so valuable tonight. They made their run on us when he got in foul trouble. Plus K. Johnson missed about 5 layups. But he still ended up with a double double. Tough kid. Nembhard just negated their press and they guys played stifling defense and just outworked Nevada. This is gravy, people. We're playing with house money now and hopefully they'll be loose and having fun Saturday. Go Montana!!
I'll take some of those biscuits and gravy @Dannygator1989 was speaking of along with more Mike White!
Can we please start a NEW thread? WTF is with a stale Ole Miss thread? LMAO!
No, it's nostalgic! Some of the oddest topics turn into double digit pages of threAds.Can we please start a NEW thread? WTF is with a stale Ole Miss thread? LMAO!
10 Seed, 19-15 UF 70 - 61 Nev 29-4, 7 Seed (81 Pt/Ga Ave) #14 Ranking.
"What a game, my goodness," UF coach Mike White said after winning his third straight NCAA opener for the program. "We did enough in the end." (which credits him and his players, not just him) A freakin' 10 seed just knocked off the #14 ranked team.
*That win is Mike White's 4th consecutive 20+ win season at UF.
>>> 16-17 to the NIT - then NCAA - NCAA - NCAA....
With 3 Top 50's, 2 are Micky-D 5 stars, on the way in for next season.
Hayes 5/6 FG's, 6/8 FT's for 16 pts, 3 rbs, 3 blk.
Hudson 15 Pts - all but 2 pts were in the 1st half.
Allen 10 Pts - all in the 2nd half.
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SF/PF Johnson 10 Pts / 10 rbs for his 3rd double/double in the last 4 games, plus 3 stls.
PG Nembhard 8 Pts, 7 rbs, 5 asts, 2 TO's playing 38 minutes.
Just think how good they could be, if Mike White knew anything at all about offense or coaching....
Hey twit haters & rival trolls, since Mike got blamed for not developing players when they were sucking early in the season, does he now get all of the credit for how Allen, Hudson, and Hayes are playing??? How about developmental credit for Bassett and the 3 freshmen? Maybe the White haters should just sit down and STFU.
The Gators will be one of 32 still playing this weekend, having advanced out of the tournament's 1st round for the 7th straight time, 3 of the 7 under coach Mike White while following BillyD's tradition. Historically, Florida improved to 44-17 (.721) all-time in the tournament, including 5-2 (.714) under Coach Mike White so far.
>>> Now they get to play 10th ranked, 2 Seed Mich 29-6. Mich was last year's NC runner-up btw....
Chris Harry has two write-ups here:
https://floridagators.com/news/2019...gators-hold-off-wolf-pack-in-ncaa-opener.aspx
It's interesting to compare the 1st 4 years of Mike White & Billy Donovan at Florida. Donovan was 78-49 (.614), White 89-53 (.627). Donovan had losing records his 1st 2 years (13-17 & 14-15), but then went 22-9 and got his team to the Sweet 16, followed by 29-8 and was National Runner-Up his 4th year. White won over 20 games each of his 1st 4 years, making the NIT quarterfinals his 1st year, the Elite 8 his 2nd year and the NCAA Round of 32 his 3rd and 4th years. Fairly similar, and it will be interesting to see how White does from year 5 on and whether or not he can build the level of sustained success that Donovan did. The SEC is deeper with more good teams now than in Billy D's early years, but should that be taken into consideration? Just askin'.
SEC depth should be taken into consideration. But, given the SEC’s depth at head coach, it’s also fair to ask where Mike White stacks up against coaches like Pearl, Barnes, Howland, even someone like Tom Crean. Forget about Calipari. Also, Donovan was starting pretty much from scratch. White stepped into a program that was as good as anyone, UNC, MIch St., etc... during the Billy Donovan era.
White hasn't been caught cheating like Calipari and Pearl, so I'd prefer him over them regardless of their successes.
That’s fine but he still has to play them three times a year and losses won’t come with asterisks. When you were complaining about finishing as the ninth seed, I don’t recall you giving him a pass for games lost to cheaters.
~ What he did this season with what he had to work with.
~ What we have to look forward to next season.
~ What he's done in comparison to other SEC coaches.
Their last go-around for the 3 Sr's (Hayes-Allen-Hudosn) ended with a 20-16 record against a brutal schedule that included 12 games (or 1/3 against opponents that are still alive in the tournament's "Sweet 16" round.
This was without the starting 6-11 center all season, then without the 4 star sophmore PF in Dec, and then without the starting rsJr PF in Jan.
For the 2019-20 season:
PG Nembhard So (#2 UF in All Time in Fr assists - 194)
SG Locke So - (groin/hip) #1 in UF history in Fr made 3's - 81
SF/PF K.Johnson So - Led the team with 6.4 Rbs/Gm
SF Scottie Lewis Fr *****
CG Tre Mann Fr *****
SG Alex Klatsky Fr ** - P-WO - 43% 3's
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PF Stone 6-8 rsSr - (ACL, return Dec/Jan???)
C Gak 6-11 rsJr - (2018-19 medical reshirt)
PF/C Bassett 6-9 rsJr
PF Stokes 6-8 rsSo
PF/C Omar Payne 6-10 Fr ****
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Stay or xfer Unknowns for 2019-20???
PG Mike Okauru Jr
CG Deaundrae Ballard
UF's coach, Mike White, is 1 of just 10 teams in the country to win at least 1 NCAA Tournament game each of the last 3 seasons, and 1 of only 2 SEC teams to reach the tournament all 3 of those years. The goal for next season, of course, is to make a deeper run at the NCAA..
~ What we have to look forward to next season.
~ What he's done in comparison to other SEC coaches.
Their last go-around for the 3 Sr's (Hayes-Allen-Hudosn) ended with a 20-16 record against a brutal schedule that included 12 games (or 1/3 against opponents that are still alive in the tournament's "Sweet 16" round.
This was without the starting 6-11 center all season, then without the 4 star sophmore PF in Dec, and then without the starting rsJr PF in Jan.
For the 2019-20 season:
PG Nembhard So (#2 UF in All Time in Fr assists - 194)
SG Locke So - (groin/hip) #1 in UF history in Fr made 3's - 81
SF/PF K.Johnson So - Led the team with 6.4 Rbs/Gm
SF Scottie Lewis Fr *****
CG Tre Mann Fr *****
SG Alex Klatsky Fr ** - P-WO - 43% 3's
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PF Stone 6-8 rsSr - (ACL, return Dec/Jan???)
C Gak 6-11 rsJr - (2018-19 medical reshirt)
PF/C Bassett 6-9 rsJr
PF Stokes 6-8 rsSo
PF/C Omar Payne 6-10 Fr ****
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Stay or xfer Unknowns for 2019-20???
PG Mike Okauru Jr
CG Deaundrae Ballard
UF's coach, Mike White, is 1 of just 10 teams in the country to win at least 1 NCAA Tournament game each of the last 3 seasons, and 1 of only 2 SEC teams to reach the tournament all 3 of those years. The goal for next season, of course, is to make a deeper run at the NCAA..
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