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Whups...Jan 6th hearings are imploding LOL

GatorTheo said:
Because they cheated, right? The only way republicans lose is because they're cheated.

Kinda like Kentucky basketball.
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You are missing the point entirely. Yes, I believe they cheated. And a damn good percentage of Americans believe this as well, whether you like it or not. Why is that a problem? Because if folks don’t believe our elections are fair and honest, folks will stop voting. Whether you think so or not isn’t relevant to the overall point.
 
jfegaly said:
Here is the sad part.

The media is creating a narrative that elections were lost because of Trump. Even though the states that were lost were the same states where there were issues in 2020 elections. (Imagine that).

The next narrative. Trump said a bad thing about desantis. We must not say mean things about pubs. ROFLMAO. Come on folks, you can’t take this as serious. It’s laughable. Have folks forgotten every campaign of every candidate for ANY office over the last 30 years? Give me the candidates name (that includes Ron) and I can find you name calling/mean things they said about their opponents save for maybe Ben Carson (that didn’t work out well, and I actually initially Wanted him to win)

Pubs are more than likely going to get their asses handed to them until they are willing to grow a pair and speak the truth about our elections. Quit being afraid of every time the media calls them election deniers, or Qanon, or conspiracy theorists, racists, or whatever new word they come up with to shame them.
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I'm moving over to the "beat them at their own game" position, and here's why.

You have to be in power to clean up elections. If they know you're going to clean up elections they'll cheat as much as possible to keep you from doing that.

R's can scream and whine and throw a temper tantrum, but it doesn't matter. The media complex will just come up with a name to call it (ie "The Big Lie") and cover for the cheating forever. The cycle needs to be broken.

Dems want to flood the zone with ballots? Fine. Drop boxes at Churches, Gun Shows, Football Games, etc. R ballot harvesters all over blue areas. Do whatever it takes.

I'm that disgusted by this entire situation and I don't see another way.
 
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fatman76 said:
I'm moving over to the "beat them at their own game" position, and here's why.

You have to be in power to clean up elections. If they know you're going to clean up elections they'll cheat as much as possible to keep you from doing that.

R's can scream and whine and throw a temper tantrum, but it doesn't matter. The media complex will just come up with a name to call it (ie "The Big Lie") and cover for the cheating forever. The cycle needs to be broken.

Dems want to flood the zone with ballots? Fine. Drop boxes at Churches, Gun Shows, Football Games, etc. R ballot harvesters all over blue areas. Do whatever it takes.

I'm that disgusted by this entire situation and I don't see another way.
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Agreed. Time to take Alinsky's Rules and shove them right back up their asses. :mad:
 
Back on topic...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/clarence-thomas-again-moves-block-191711144.html
Clarence Thomas Again Moves To Block Jan. 6 Inquiry That Could Implicate His Wife
Paul Blumenthal
Mon, November 14, 2022 at 2:17 PM·3 min read

In a dissent on Monday, Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas showed that he would have blocked enforcement of a subpoena issued by the House Jan. 6 Committee for the phone and text records of Arizona Republican Party Chair Kelli Ward.

The committee is seeking Ward’s records related to her role in former President Donald Trump’s effort to steal the 2020 election as a fake elector casting ballots in the Electoral College for Trump.

This is the second time Thomas has indicated that he would intervene to hamper the committee’s efforts to investigate the plot to overturn the 2020 election in which his wife, Ginni Thomas, played a role

Thomas previously was the lone justice to dissent from the court’s refusal to block the release of White House records held by the National Archives to the Jan. 6 Committee. It was later revealed in March that his wife had been in communication with White House officials about Trump’s machinations to overturn President Joe Biden’s victory.
 
fatman76 said:
I'm not saying that I'm asking a question.

We have better candidates but barely, and they win (and in Fetterman's situation by a ton).

I'm just trying to make sense of it all.
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Half the nation votes dem anyway. We put up crappy candidates + some amount of shenanigans = we're gonna lose at least as much as we win.

It doesn't help having the guy whom America just rejected jumping up and down on the sidelines.
 
jfegaly said:
You are missing the point entirely. Yes, I believe they cheated. And a damn good percentage of Americans believe this as well, whether you like it or not. Why is that a problem? Because if folks don’t believe our elections are fair and honest, folks will stop voting. Whether you think so or not isn’t relevant to the overall point.
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TDS is a helluva drug.


"We gotta do something about the elections! These states taking a week to count votes, and all the 'finding' votes! Way too shady, gotta clean that up!

Absolutely! Top priority moving forward.

On the other hand, it does create a problem.

What's that?

If we have secure and legal elections, Trump wins all 50 states in 2024.

................

You're right. I think what we REALLY need is better candidates. ie ones not like Trump.

Agreed, let's go with that!"
 
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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
TDS is a helluva drug.


"We gotta do something about the elections! These states taking a week to count votes, and all the 'finding' votes! Way too shady, gotta clean that up!

Absolutely! Top priority moving forward.

On the other hand, it does create a problem.

What's that?

If we have secure and legal elections, Trump wins all 50 states in 2024.

................

You're right. I think what we REALLY need is better candidates. ie ones not like Trump.

Agreed, let's go with that!"
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Ronald Reagan couldn't win today with the amount of voter fraud we've got in 2022. That's a FACT!
 
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Just a quick program reminder...No voter election fraud has occurred
No evidence has ever been presented in a court of law

However we do have election fraud evidence on the part of trump & his cronies

And they're being investigated & indicted as we speak
 
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NavigatorII said:
Ronald Reagan couldn't win today with the amount of voter fraud we've got in 2022. That's a FACT!
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Critical thinker has a question: Does the United States actually have a single Blue state?

Of course! CA, OR, NY, there's so many!!!

Really? How do we know those are all BLUE states?

Their voter logs?

What if those voter logs are as fraudulent as their elections?

What if dems have been cheating and getting their politicians in place to enact liberal progressive policies in areas where the populace is actually purple or even red?

My contention is there are no true Blue states in this nation. There are 5-10 purple states, but that's it.

We've all been conned. For decades.

Once you zoom out and consider what Trump is about to expose, it makes complete sense the unified effort to stop him. Take the blindfold off the public and its game over for the uniparty.
 
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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Critical thinker has a question: Does the United States actually have a single Blue state?

Of course! CA, OR, NY, there's so many!!!

Really? How do we know those are all BLUE states?

Their voter logs?

What if those voter logs are as fraudulent as their elections?

What if dems have been cheating and getting their politicians in place to enact liberal progressive policies in areas where the populace is actually purple or even red?

My contention is there are no true Blue states in this nation. There are 5-10 purple states, but that's it.

We've all been conned. For decades.

Once you zoom out and consider what Trump is about to expose, it makes complete sense the unified effort to stop him. Take the blindfold off the public and its game over for the uniparty.
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Yep. Been thinking about this a ton lately. How would Americans actually even know anything about who voted, how many etc?

Fact of the matter is….You have to trust the media and the politicians to tell you.

Yikes
 
jfegaly said:
Yep. Been thinking about this a ton lately. How would Americans actually even know anything about who voted, how many etc?

Fact of the matter is….You have to trust the media and the politicians to tell you.

Yikes
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And as @Uniformed_ReRe and @GatorTheo have shown us ITT, many people are more than happy to let the media do their thinking for them.

Guys I know this won't resonate with you, but once you begin to wake up and your eyes are open, you start to see patterns. Things that you dismissed before or didn't notice, suddenly make sense.

You see something like the FTX implosion and all that money that got kicked out back to politicians and think 'Oh! So that explains why that guy voted to keep sending billions to Ukraine! He got $3M of it back from FTX!'

I know the sheep will dismiss and ignore. You're still asleep, so I get it.

When you wake up, you'll see we were right. Just remember for later.
 
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jfegaly said:
Yep. Been thinking about this a ton lately. How would Americans actually even know anything about who voted, how many etc?

Fact of the matter is….You have to trust the media and the politicians to tell you.

Yikes
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It’s the entire scheme.

Never maintain voter rolls. Keep dead people and people who moved on them. Hell, let illegal immigrants register. Just get the numbers.

Then claim you’re disenfranchising all of these “voters” if they don’t get a ballot automatically mailed to them. Flood the zone with ballots.

Then use money that’s either laundered tax dollars (this cycle) of donated from. Tech mogul (last cycle) to pay thousands of people to fill out and deliver these ballots.

None of this requires fractional vote counting or manipulation of tabulators or servers, which is a potential threat (even dems tell us that).

It’s pretty simple.
 
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GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
And as @Uniformed_ReRe and @GatorTheo have shown us ITT, many people are more than happy to let the media do their thinking for them.

Guys I know this won't resonate with you, but once you begin to wake up and your eyes are open, you start to see patterns. Things that you dismissed before or didn't notice, suddenly make sense.

You see something like the FTX implosion and all that money that got kicked out back to politicians and think 'Oh! So that explains why that guy voted to keep sending billions to Ukraine! He got $3M of it back from FTX!'

I know the sheep will dismiss and ignore. You're still asleep, so I get it.

When you wake up, you'll see we were right. Just remember for later.
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As for waking up….I hope so, because honestly, I am tired of being right. 😉
 
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fatman76 said:
It’s the entire scheme.

Never maintain voter rolls. Keep dead people and people who moved on them. Hell, let illegal immigrants register. Just get the numbers.

Then claim you’re disenfranchising all of these “voters” if they don’t get a ballot automatically mailed to them. Flood the zone with ballots.

Then use money that’s either laundered tax dollars (this cycle) of donated from. Tech mogul (last cycle) to pay thousands of people to fill out and deliver these ballots.

None of this requires fractional vote counting or manipulation of tabulators or servers, which is a potential threat (even dems tell us that).

It’s pretty simple.
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Heed Jimmy Carter on the Danger of Mail-In Voting​

‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud​

www.wsj.com

Opinion | Heed Jimmy Carter on the Danger of Mail-In Voting

‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.’
www.wsj.com www.wsj.com

:oops:
 
GhostOfMatchesMalone said:
Critical thinker has a question: Does the United States actually have a single Blue state?

Of course! CA, OR, NY, there's so many!!!

Really? How do we know those are all BLUE states?

Their voter logs?

What if those voter logs are as fraudulent as their elections?
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So now the vote totals aren't believable? 🤣

So maybe trump, Bush, or Reagan didn't REALLY win?

today's "conservatives" live in a made up make believe world
Another major reason why the lose elections
 
jfegaly said:
Yep. Been thinking about this a ton lately. How would Americans actually even know anything about who voted, how many etc?

Fact of the matter is….You have to trust the media and the politicians to tell you.

Yikes
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The states themselves archive the ballots....not the media

Did the Cyber Ninjas go to FoxNews headquarters to get the Arizona ballots? 🤣
 
fatman76 said:
It’s the entire scheme.

Never maintain voter rolls. Keep dead people and people who moved on them. Hell, let illegal immigrants register. Just get the numbers.

Then claim you’re disenfranchising all of these “voters” if they don’t get a ballot automatically mailed to them. Flood the zone with ballots.

Then use money that’s either laundered tax dollars (this cycle) of donated from. Tech mogul (last cycle) to pay thousands of people to fill out and deliver these ballots.

None of this requires fractional vote counting or manipulation of tabulators or servers, which is a potential threat (even dems tell us that).

It’s pretty simple.
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Or maybe you just lost? 🤣
 
republicans just won a majority in the house and the trump conservatives don't believe in the vote totals?

Were they elected on fake ballots?
 
GatorTheo said:
You people are funny thinking all 'facts' come from Trump-friendly rightwing sources.
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Huh?

This is what one does when they can’t dispute the topic at hand. Instead of countering with something that refutes the data, they come with a statement like yours.

Do you dispute the data? Let’s stick to that.

Be better.
 
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