Is there a precedent for this? I mean, like is there a special section in the manual for former presidents? 😜
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Walls are closing in on DJT.... *All of Trump Charged threads have been merged - post here*
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Has the Mar-a-Lago case been closed?
Or is the trump legal team still looking to the courts for a special master, a ruling on classified documents, or claiming that he can declassify documents with his mind? LOL
trump and his followers haven't gotten one thing right in that case...
But it is amusing declaring victory because he hasn't been indicted [yet]
OK so we've discovered a few things about Evilwayz...
- He has a lousy sense of humor
- He thinks its highly secret information that men get raped in prison
- And for the record he KNOWS how former presidents are handled in prison even though no other former president has ever even been indicted
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That POS DA will indict ham sandwiches but let murderers run free in the streets. Bizarro World.
That's NY and California for you. Up is down and down is up.
After Nixon you'd think so.
No protected management is applied for or assigned.
When I left UCI some of the residents of PM included:
A transgender person with top surgery.
Two juvenile offenders that would have gone to a youth offender camp but their sentence didn't allow for it due to there being no maximum security youth facilities in Florida.
A top Mob guy from the Bonano crime family.
A Aryan Brotherhood of Texas shot caller we traded one of our troublemakers for.
And a bunch of rapists and child molesters and snitches to round things out.
It's my understanding that Trump will be charged with a misdemeanor possibly two.
I don't know New York law so I don't know length of sentence.
You don't go to prison for a misdemeanor.
If he were to be found guilty in the state of Florida for two counts of misdemeanor being being liar who sleeps with porn stars and bribes them to shut up, he would:
Most likely be fined given his status as a first time criminal offender.
If he annoyed someone or there was an agenda involved, he could serve no more than 364 days in the county jail, concurrently. Florida gives you ten days gain time so he'd do 2/3 of his sentence.
I'd say one year probation plus court costs and fine would be what happens. At most 6 months, consecutive with gain time.
I see you’ll post anything just to comfort yourself. You do understand that YOUR president is the one in the spotlight right? And not In a good way, if I was you which I’m not, I think I would keep my mouth shut, Trumps a complete embarrassment to this country, first president in US history to be indicted, and what a joke, But he’s YOUR president, and for your let’s see””” hoodwinked, sheep, comments they fit you like a glove
Surely you recognize this as purely political, right?
They couldn't arrest him while he was in office and some of his crimes were committed in the last 2 years
And you're calling someone else a "dullard"?
malone's boy hasn't even been indicted and he crying injustice....What a pussy!!! LMAO
If something is posted on truth social...is there anybody there to read it? LOL
You mean the guy who has lost every election and court case besides 2016?
His track record would get him fired at UF if he was the football coach 🤣
He already lost in Georgia
So you're OK with the criminal justice system going after political opponents?
Politics over country bro. The TDS is strong with the sheep.
Netanyahu is trying to fix their broken judiciary. Another victim of leftist witch hunts. How does he fix it? Main complaint and a valid one is the loss of independence for the judiciary. Its got Israelis up in arms.
Here in America white collar crimes are punished too heavily. You have elderly Ponzi schemers who fleece uber wealthy investors dying in prison. Meanwhile, violent criminals like George Floyd are allowed to roam the streets and commit crimes.
The fact that the Dumb A$$ can even thread through this novel approach to attacking Trump is more proof that our gubmint at all levels is too large.
That anyone could face even a day in prison for such a "crime" is also ridiculous.
Bribery I guess is legal as long as you have a lawyer do it for you and you sign an NDA. Paying extortion money is a crime if you are running for office. Having your lawyer handle it isnt a legal action so you cant claim when you pay him back that is is legal fees. I guess you need to label it extortion funds on the excel sheet/ tax return or its a felony. But that is only if you are running for office.
Here in America white collar crimes are punished too heavily. You have elderly Ponzi schemers who fleece uber wealthy investors dying in prison. Meanwhile, violent criminals like George Floyd are allowed to roam the streets and commit crimes.
The fact that the Dumb A$$ can even thread through this novel approach to attacking Trump is more proof that our gubmint at all levels is too large.
That anyone could face even a day in prison for such a "crime" is also ridiculous.
Bribery I guess is legal as long as you have a lawyer do it for you and you sign an NDA. Paying extortion money is a crime if you are running for office. Having your lawyer handle it isnt a legal action so you cant claim when you pay him back that is is legal fees. I guess you need to label it extortion funds on the excel sheet/ tax return or its a felony. But that is only if you are running for office.
Most definitely especially when they blatantly commit crimes, no exceptions. Trump needs to quit crying like a little girl and quit playing the victim, that clown thinks he’s above the law, points fingers, blames others, just a punk coward I don’t feel sorry for him atall, all the crap he’s been pulling has finally started catching up to his fat rump
The DA trying to claim Trump paying someone for silence (NDA), which is 100% legal, is somehow an illegal campaign donation is really really far-fetched. I don’t know how they can even make a legal argument.
Because you don't know that's the legal argument they're making do you? 🤣
Please show us where the Manhattan DA's office has said that's what they're going to charge him with
Then what of the DaSantis pussycat?
Crime is higher in Florida & Miami than New York state & NYC....
Depends on where the money came from or how it got to the agent whom the negotiations were conducted with.
Remember, Trumps lawyer already pled guilty to the campaign finance violation.
That POS DA will indict ham sandwiches but let murderers run free in the streets. Bizarro World.
The DA doesn't indict...the grand jury does
https://www.yahoo.com/news/not-fast-york-grand-jury-010249782.html
Not so fast. A New York grand jury will hear a final surprise witness on Monday and won't vote on Trump indictment until it's over.
A possible Donald Trump "hush-money" indictment is on hold until a final witness testifies before a Manhattan grand jury on Monday afternoon.
"There is one more witness," a source with knowledge of the investigation told Insider on Saturday night.
The source spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to divulge details of the grand jury proceedings.
The source declined to identify the witness, whose testimony will cap a two-month grand jury presentation by prosecutors under District Attorney Alvin Bragg.
A separate source, who also spoke on condition of anonymity, told Insider that the witness is not Allen Weisselberg, Trump's former CFO, who is serving a five-month sentence for admittedly masterminding a payroll tax-dodge scheme at the Trump Organization.
News of a Monday grand jury witness was first reported by CNN.
Not so fast. A New York grand jury will hear a final surprise witness on Monday and won't vote on Trump indictment until it's over.
- A Manhattan grand jury will continue hearing evidence Monday in the Trump hush-money investigation.
- A final witness must testify before the panel can deliberate and then vote on a possible indictment.
- Monday is now the earliest Trump could be indicted, though the charges would immediately be sealed.
A possible Donald Trump "hush-money" indictment is on hold until a final witness testifies before a Manhattan grand jury on Monday afternoon.
"There is one more witness," a source with knowledge of the investigation told Insider on Saturday night.
The source spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to divulge details of the grand jury proceedings.
The source declined to identify the witness, whose testimony will cap a two-month grand jury presentation by prosecutors under District Attorney Alvin Bragg.
A separate source, who also spoke on condition of anonymity, told Insider that the witness is not Allen Weisselberg, Trump's former CFO, who is serving a five-month sentence for admittedly masterminding a payroll tax-dodge scheme at the Trump Organization.
News of a Monday grand jury witness was first reported by CNN.
And Weiselberg and the National Enquirer owner David Packer are involved in the coverup and accounting of the hush money
A lot of possibilities for what exactly is going to be charged and who is chargeable
A lot of possibilities for what exactly is going to be charged and who is chargeable
Good enough for me. Agree there’s no way he serves jail time. Enough that we can call him a criminal for the rest of his fat, pathetic life.
I just want it on record that he paid for an abortion so we can show what hypocrites these so called Christians are ITT.
Why would he have to pay her for silence? He said he never had sex with the hooker. LOLOLOLOL.
You brought up a good point (and candidly, I cannot be up on every piece of news) that the European nations have now come together to reduce the needs on Russia through caps. I am glad that they are doing that.
I happen to be a bit skeptical that China and India are not turning around and re-fueling Putin's economy, but Xi and Modi are clever enough to know that Putin cannot be an "Alpha" here and will get fuel at below market rates.
Again, good citation.
In fairness, see my note on Saudi Arabia.
The overall constrained supply environment is doing wonders for every oil producer not under price and volume caps.
I hope you see that I do not come to these exchanges looking for a "fight", but to trade ideas and if they should evolve, then that is the benefit of free exchange of ideas.
Personally, I have hesitations around this for a few reasons:https://www.yahoo.com/news/not-fast-york-grand-jury-010249782.html
Not so fast. A New York grand jury will hear a final surprise witness on Monday and won't vote on Trump indictment until it's over.
- A Manhattan grand jury will continue hearing evidence Monday in the Trump hush-money investigation.
- A final witness must testify before the panel can deliberate and then vote on a possible indictment.
- Monday is now the earliest Trump could be indicted, though the charges would immediately be sealed.
A possible Donald Trump "hush-money" indictment is on hold until a final witness testifies before a Manhattan grand jury on Monday afternoon.
"There is one more witness," a source with knowledge of the investigation told Insider on Saturday night.
The source spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to divulge details of the grand jury proceedings.
The source declined to identify the witness, whose testimony will cap a two-month grand jury presentation by prosecutors under District Attorney Alvin Bragg.
A separate source, who also spoke on condition of anonymity, told Insider that the witness is not Allen Weisselberg, Trump's former CFO, who is serving a five-month sentence for admittedly masterminding a payroll tax-dodge scheme at the Trump Organization.
News of a Monday grand jury witness was first reported by CNN.
1. Alvin is stretching to put together two misdemeanors to make a felony. That is terrible precedent on any side.
2. Making efforts to defend Stormy Daniels when your city is under a nightly crime siege is a profound waste of taxpayer dollars.
3. This will make Trump a "martyr".
4. If the "OnlyTrump" crowd was smart (I made this point months ago) they would defocus the "stop the steal" from election fraud that they can barely provide evidence for (and when they try, it may potentially undoing the main media juggernaut in Fox News) and broaden the aperture to the weaponization of big-tech, MSM, big city/Soros funded DAs, etc.
I do not know the facts, evidence, etc. but as someone who leans to DeSantis and Tim Scott, this is not a helpful set of events.
So 80% say Trump is fine, sheep refusing to vote.
LOL Called it. Ray ray is skeered!
LOL Called it. Ray ray is skeered!
An attorney is supposed to know the law, that's his job. You only had ONE job!! 😂
An easy argument Trump has is he largely financed his campaign out of his own pocket in his 2016 run. It's impossible to earmark where said funds came from, and supposedly he never took a salary while in office. Today the media is trying to compare this to what John Edwards did with his campaign contributions (a huge chunk from the Melon trust fund babies). He used that money to keep his whore with his illegitimate child in high cotton. Completely apples and oranges, but there the media spin once again.
Glad she toned that down for public consumption. 😂
You have to account for every cent the second you run for office.
I personally don't think he'd be that dumb.
Rich people stash money like fat people stash candy.
He's certainly got offshore accounts in Grand Cayman or the Bahamas or Switzerland that he could tap for this kind of thing and surely if Cohen was his cleaner he'd have access to it.
The Clintons were masters of this when he was in the governors mansion.
Never did figure out why they didn't bribe Monica and her ugly friend
What I'm saying is Trump largely financed his own campaign (first one). It would be next to impossible to tie that with campaign contributions if funds are comingled and Trump was dumping personal funds into his campaign account. I don't think there are limits on what a candidate spends out of his own pocket. At the time NDAs were not only legal but tax deductible so it would have been dumb to do it out of his campaign account. Cohen already testified that he paid her and then Trump reimbursed him. Ross Perot spent a CRAPLOAD of his own cash when he ran.
Skip he had to put that money into a campaign account regardless.
You can't use you own money to put gas in your car if a staff member is with you.
Did he though? I really don't know. He might have paid it through one of his many corporations or LLC cash accounts. Was Cohen running his election campaign funds? I guess we'll find out eventually. It's a technicality either way. With all of the dirty deeds the Dims have done and don't care who knows, it's hypocrisy at it's pinnacle.
NY DA has jurisdiction in a FEDERAL campaign finance case?
There might be a reason no one else pushed this case.
You noticed that neither Mueller nor that manly hunk Merrick tackled this? FEC? Nope. 😂
