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TRUMP VERDICT REACHED



Man karma really is a bitch….
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Well, are you considering the other side of this? Donald Trump has done dozens of things that would have eliminated any other candidate that has ever run for office. The access Hollywood tape alone knocks anyone else out. Trump himself has bragged that he can do anything he wants and they will still support him.

This is a major change in the rules we have always played by.

So given the fact that the republicans are going to support Trump "no matter what".........what do you leave the democrats with? Of course they are going to do whatever they can to get him out.......its the only response they can have. They feel just as strongly that they are the ones who are trying to save the democracy.

Its no longer just politics, its a cold war where both sides have essentially thrown away any of the political norms we have previously lived by. Trump is not a political candidate.....he in a general leading his army into war and in that roll his army will support whatever actions he sees fit to use. And the democrats are essentially doing the same thing, but with a different approach.

And this trial verdict just pushes us closer to, or perhaps past, the point of no return. It seems its just a matter of what manner the "fall" will take and when it will happen.

But one thing is certain that the extremes on both sides simply don't get.

Nobody will win.....we will all lose.


Again. YOU are the extremist. You have been a leader for get Trump at all costs on this site for years.

What would I expect Dems to do? Oh I don’t know, let the American people decide who they want. Seems pretty rational to me. You know, something about being a Republic.

You are going to be on the wrong side of history. Much like Nazi Sympathizers are now looked at.
 


Been screaming this from the rooftops for at least 3 years. The only way this stops is when we see obama, hillary, joe, etc…marched off in ankle shackles and cuffs. Period.

Do I like it? Nope, but it’s the only thing short of civil war to stop it at this point. And you idiots on this site that thought this was cool to “get Trump” are culpable.
 
Again. YOU are the extremist. You have been a leader for get Trump at all costs on this site for years.

What would I expect Dems to do? Oh I don’t know, let the American people decide who they want. Seems pretty rational to me. You know, something about being a Republic.

You are going to be on the wrong side of history. Much like Nazi Sympathizers are now looked at.
When it’s all said and done we should hold the sympathizers down and brand their flesh so that they can never escape where they stood
 
Good.

Let’s hope it doesn’t spread.
I don't think we should play the "get even game". We (Repubs) are not going to be very successful acting like Democrats. We need to concentrate on battling the source of their power. I haven't followed Megan Kelly lately so I'm not sure where she is coming from but I don't think that "get even" is a very smart strategy. This is going to wind up similar to Trump telling his supporters we have equal rights so go and peacefully protest at the capitol. You remember how that turned out.
 
I don't think we should play the "get even game". We (Repubs) are not going to be very successful acting like Democrats. We need to concentrate on battling the source of their power. I haven't followed Megan Kelly lately so I'm not sure where she is coming from but I don't think that "get even" is a very smart strategy. This is going to wind up similar to Trump telling his supporters we have equal rights so go and peacefully protest at the capitol. You remember how that turned out.


Following your model, we end up here…



History is important. Failure to hold criminal behaviors of the left to account, has gotten us here. You’re suggesting we don’t prosecute these criminals?

We have two options. Prosecute these criminals or civil war. Choose wisely.
 
Following your model, we end up here…



History is important. Failure to hold criminal behaviors of the left to account, has gotten us here. You’re suggesting we don’t prosecute these criminals?

We have two options. Prosecute these criminals or civil war. Choose wisely.
I think we should concentrate on having elections that are without fraud and cheating. To have the election results certified by a reputable independent agency.
 
I think we should concentrate on having elections that are without fraud and cheating. To have the election results certified by a reputable independent agency.
If we ever win the presidency again, the DOJ must be reorganized into 2 divisions, the existing division that strictly supports the Democratic party and a new division that supports the American people. The headquarters of the Department of Justice needs to be moved out of Wash. D.C. and taxpayer dollars only going to the division that supports the American people. Similarily the headquarters of the CIA needs to be moved from D.C. to Guam or Quantanimo or Virgin islands. Enable a secret independent board to review their shenigans and report to the people from time to time.
 
I think we should concentrate on having elections that are without fraud and cheating. To have the election results certified by a reputable independent agency.

So, don’t prosecute criminals that commit treason, and continue to just believe voting will do the trick to stop a dictator. Interesting. I wonder if we have any real life examples of how that has worked elsewhere.

Oof.
 
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If we ever win the presidency again, the DOJ must be reorganized into 2 divisions, the existing division that strictly supports the Democratic party and a new division that supports the American people. The headquarters of the Department of Justice needs to be moved out of Wash. D.C. and taxpayer dollars only going to the division that supports the American people. Similarily the headquarters of the CIA needs to be moved from D.C. to Guam or Quantanimo or Virgin islands. Enable a secret independent board to review their shenigans and report to the people from time to time.

You want a division for the left and one for the people?

Holy porch sitting, batman.
 
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I don't think we should play the "get even game". We (Repubs) are not going to be very successful acting like Democrats. We need to concentrate on battling the source of their power. I haven't followed Megan Kelly lately so I'm not sure where she is coming from but I don't think that "get even" is a very smart strategy. This is going to wind up similar to Trump telling his supporters we have equal rights so go and peacefully protest at the capitol. You remember how that turned out.
I tend to agree with you, I’m a “can’t we all just get along” person generally.

But the sentiment that all totalitarians understand is power may be correct. It may be the only way to stop this crap.
 
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I tend to agree with you, I’m a “can’t we all just get along” person generally.

But the sentiment that all totalitarians understand is power may be correct. It may be the only way to stop this crap.

Historical precedence confirms this. Totalitarians don’t get removed by elections.
 
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So, don’t prosecute criminals that commit treason, and continue to just believe voting will do the trick to stop a dictator. Interesting. I wonder if we have any real life examples of how that has worked elsewhere.

Oof.
I'm all for prosecuting criminals like when Hilliary obstructed justice but to prosecute her now would be mostly "payback" and not justice. As Ghandi once said "an eye for an eye" will leave our country blind.
 
I'm all for prosecuting criminals like when Hilliary obstructed justice but to prosecute her now would be mostly "payback" and not justice. As Ghandi once said "an eye for an eye" will leave our country blind.


You quote and put your faith in Ghandi, I will take God.

Exodus:

22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows.
23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life,
24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.

You aren’t going to stop people from taking eyes without taking one of theirs. This isn’t about revenge, it’s about stopping the madness, and getting the Republic back. This will not stop doing it your way. It only stops when the other side feels the same pain they are inflicting. Thats the point.
 
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You quote and put your faith in Ghandi, I will take God.

Exodus:

22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows.
23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life,
24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.

You aren’t going to stop people from taking eyes without taking one of theirs. This isn’t about revenge, it’s about stopping the madness, and getting the Republic back. This will not stop doing it your way. It only stops when the other side feels the same pain they are inflicting. Thats the point.
"He pulls a knife, you pull a gun, he sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. "

Escalation is where it's at.
 
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You quote and put your faith in Ghandi, I will take God.

Exodus:

22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows.
23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life,
24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.

You aren’t going to stop people from taking eyes without taking one of theirs. This isn’t about revenge, it’s about stopping the madness, and getting the Republic back. This will not stop doing it your way. It only stops when the other side feels the same pain they are inflicting. Thats the point.
Heard a quote today.

Trump has said for months his best revenge will be success. Now that this has happened his best success may be revenge.
 
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Spot on. Prosecute real criminals, no vengeance.


The prosecution of the real criminals is Hillary, Obama, Joe, Soros, etc…

And Vengeance comes with that. Because the meaning of vengeance is…

Vengeance: punishment inflicted in retaliation for an injury or offense.


They should all be punished in retaliation for the crimes they committed against America and Americans.
 
The prosecution of the real criminals is Hillary, Obama, Joe, Soros, etc…

And Vengeance comes with that. Because the meaning of vengeance is…

Vengeance: punishment inflicted in retaliation for an injury or offense.


They should all be punished in retaliation for the crimes they committed against America and Americans.
Justice served late is still justice.
 
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The prosecution of the real criminals is Hillary, Obama, Joe, Soros, etc…

And Vengeance comes with that. Because the meaning of vengeance is…

Vengeance: punishment inflicted in retaliation for an injury or offense.


They should all be punished in retaliation for the crimes they committed against America and Americans.
No, there is a HUGE difference. Going after criminals is just fine, and should always happen. FOLLOW OUR LAWS. But using the DOJ to help keep you in power would never work with me. I am better than that. We all are. Now....if they keep attacking...all bets are off and you do whatever it takes to win. Winning is the goal.
 
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No, there is a HUGE difference. Going after criminals is just fine, and should always happen. FOLLOW OUR LAWS. But using the DOJ to help keep you in power would never work with me. I am better than that. We all are. Now....if they keep attacking...all bets are off and you do whatever it takes to win. Winning is the goal.


No what? I am just explaining to you the definition of the word. The word vengeance by definition is exactly what I stated it is, And it is appropriate to use. Whether you accept that definition or not is irrelevant. The word still means what it means. See below.


Vengeance: punishment inflicted in retaliation for an injury or offense.


So…again, punishment inflicted in retaliation for an injury or offense would equate to….

Prosecuting (punishment inflicted) in retaliation for crimes (injury or offense).

So, whether you disagree or not, vengeance is a proper term here. By definition there is NO DIFFERENCE.

That said. If they keep attacking? It’s been 8 years. How many times do you need to watch the wolves kill your chickens before you do something to protect your chickens? 10 years? 20?

5 chickens? 10 chickens? 100 chickens? Once wolves taste the chicken they keep coming back until you do something.
 
Again. YOU are the extremist. You have been a leader for get Trump at all costs on this site for years.

What would I expect Dems to do? Oh I don’t know, let the American people decide who they want. Seems pretty rational to me. You know, something about being a Republic.

You are going to be on the wrong side of history. Much like Nazi Sympathizers are now looked at.

Again. YOU are the extremist. You have been a leader for get Trump at all costs on this site for years.

What would I expect Dems to do? Oh I don’t know, let the American people decide who they want. Seems pretty rational to me. You know, something about being a Republic.

You are going to be on the wrong side of history. Much like Nazi Sympathizers are now looked at.
In 1960, Ruby Bridges, a 6 year old black girl, became the first black student to desegregate the New Orleans public school system.

While she was entering the school, there were grown adults hurling insults at her and spitting on her. A 6 year old girl.

When I see that footage I think about the people spitting on her. How could these people not see that their actions will be forever out there and how could they not see that they are absolutely on the wrong side of history and will be judged in the future for it. Same as Nazi sympathizers.

I’ve taught history for 17 years, and so many times in history one can say to themselves “how can these people not see what’s going to happen? How can you not see what the Nazis are doing or going to do?”

That’s how I feel about the people being ok with and supporting the weaponization of the courts and using them to block their political enemies. How can some people not see where this is going?

Stop being so ideologically blinded. You think you can do this to stave off Trump then you’ll go back to the way America was? That’s not how it works. Once it’s done it will be repeated. Over and over. You can’t unring this bell.
 
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