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Thoughts on the Game.

"Should have taken a knee",,,,,,,on 4th down? Oh my.

On fourth down deep in Florida territory with 20 seconds left on the clock up by two touchdowns.

Am I bugged that he ran up the score? No.

Your inability to show a smidge of intellectually honesty (which seems to the calling card of Nole posters on this board) is annoying.

If you're going to be a dick then why not write, "We ran up the score. Sucks to be you." You'd get a lot more respect than the typical Nole bit you're running.
 
That wasn't running up the score. Running up the score is more like when you are ahead 45-0 with less than 2-minutes to go in a game and you have your qb throw in to the end zone for another td to give you a final of 52-0. Any of you ever remember this happening? I'll. give you some hints. The year was 2001. The school is in Florida. Their head coaches first name was Steve. The team that lost was from Mississippi. THAT is ruts.
 
I have no problem with Fisher running up the score. He was sending Mac...and Florida a message.

That is fine.

Try and be honest enough to admit that is what he was doing.

Yeah, always look like "running up the score" when you call a running play from 29 yards out. LMFAO. You wouldn't be saying crap had the play not gone for a score. I guess you expect a team to take a knee and hand the ball over on 4th? Had we lined up for a field goal you'd have a better case for RUTS. I actually kind of like the level of beat down when a losing team thinks running the ball at them from 30 yards out is RUTS.

The REAL story is FSU ate up almost 4 minutes off the clock with a 90 yard drive that had NO pass plays. The Noles marched the field on 7 consecutive runs, the last for a 29 yard TD. It wasn't Fisher running up anything unless you think you are so bad that running the football is too much for your guys to handle. Classic kill the clock final drive.

I'm sure Fisher was happy with the drive and score. I'm sure it was his intent to kill the clock and hopefully put up points before giving the ball back. If that's running it up....good.
 
That wasn't running up the score. Running up the score is more like when you are ahead 45-0 with less than 2-minutes to go in a game and you have your qb throw in to the end zone for another td to give you a final of 52-0. Any of you ever remember this happening? I'll. give you some hints. The year was 2001. The school is in Florida. Their head coaches first name was Steve. The team that lost was from Mississippi. THAT is ruts.
Stop being a baby.

Fisher was RUTS and that is fine. He called a time out to RUTS. That is also fine.
 
Yeah, always look like "running up the score" when you call a running play from 29 yards out. LMFAO. You wouldn't be saying crap had the play not gone for a score. I guess you expect a team to take a knee and hand the ball over on 4th? Had we lined up for a field goal you'd have a better case for RUTS. I actually kind of like the level of beat down when a losing team thinks running the ball at them from 30 yards out is RUTS.

The REAL story is FSU ate up almost 4 minutes off the clock with a 90 yard drive that had NO pass plays. The Noles marched the field on 7 consecutive runs, the last for a 29 yard TD. It wasn't Fisher running up anything unless you think you are so bad that running the football is too much for your guys to handle. Classic kill the clock final drive.

I'm sure Fisher was happy with the drive and score. I'm sure it was his intent to kill the clock and hopefully put up points before giving the ball back. If that's running it up....good.

This is extra dickie, even for you.
 
BTW, I remember Spurrier doing that against MSU in 2001. Jackie Sherrill was the coach and was a notorious cheater. Spurrier hated cheaters. Plus, MSU had beaten Florida the year before in Starkeville and Sherrill crowed about that all year. As well he should. But Spurrier, being the petulant child that he is, could hold a serious grudge. And finally, MSU boasted the best pass defense in the SEC coming into that game.

In typical Spurrier fashion, after Rex threw for a gazzillion yards against them, he said something like "Well, I guess they don't have the best pass defense any more."

Finally, I have never understood why people think passing for late TDs is any more RUTS than running for late TDs. If a team does not want to RUTS, then kneel on the ball the last few plays. Especially on fourth down

FSU did not do that Saturday and Spurrier NEVER did that.

All that is fine.
 
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Oh please, you guys are better than this. There is not a football coach in America, at any level, that takes a knee in that spot. You know it, I know it and anybody that has ever watched a game knows it.

Now Cook could have just tackled himself after he got the first down, like he did earlier in the drive when he found himself alone in the middle of the field but already had a first download , but how may rb's do you know that will take a knee when the endzone is theirs for the taking? My guess is none.

Jimbo had to call a time out because they couldn't get lined up, and he was pissed he had to do it. If you don't want another score, stop the draw play from the 30, or any of the other 6 draw plays we ran in a row in that 90-yard drive. A draw from the 30 is NOT running up the score, especally when it's the seventh in a row. Face it, your D just quit on those last 2 drives and it is understandable. They are a championship level D that could tell your O wasn't going to score if they played 10 more quarters and were alowed 5 downs. The program that idolizes one Stephen Orr Spurrier is the very last program that has any business whining about ruts.
 
BTW, I remember Spurrier doing that against MSU in 2001. Jackie Sherrill was the coach and was a notorious cheater. Spurrier hated cheaters. Plus, MSU had beaten Florida the year before in Starkeville and Sherrill crowed about that all year. As well he should. But Spurrier, being the petulant child that he is, could hold a serious g[ru]dge. And finally, MSU boasted the best pass defense in the SEC coming into that game.

In typical Spurrier fashion, after Rex threw for a gazzillion yards against them, he said something like "Well, I guess they don't have the best pass defense any more."

Finally, I have never understood why people think passing for late TDs is any more RUTS than running for late TDs. If a team does not want to RUTS, then kneel on the ball the last few plays. Especially on fourth down

FSU did not do that Saturday and Spurrier NEVER did that.

All that is fine.

What's the problem with holding a serious grudge? I can hold a mean grudge. When I was an ASA, God help you if you got on my "no deals; trial only" list.

This ain't Sunday School. We play for keeps in life. Last man standing.
 
Oh please, you guys are better than this. There is not a football coach in America, at any level, that takes a knee in that spot. You know it, I know it and anybody that has ever watched a game knows it.

Now Cook could have just tackled himself after he got the first down, like he did earlier in the drive when he found himself alone in the middle of the field but already had a first download , but how may rb's do you know that will take a knee when the endzone is theirs for the taking? My guess is none.

Jimbo had to call a time out because they couldn't get lined up, and he was pissed he had to do it. If you don't want another score, stop the draw play from the 30, or any of the other 6 draw plays we ran in a row in that 90-yard drive. A draw from the 30 is NOT running up the score, especally when it's the seventh in a row. Face it, your D just quit on those last 2 drives and it is understandable. They are a championship level D that could tell your O wasn't going to score if they played 10 more quarters and were alowed 5 downs. The program that idolizes one Stephen Orr Spurrier is the very last program that has any business whining about ruts.

You moron, he's not whining about it. He's written several times he doesn't have a problem with it. His problem lies with the fact that you're intellectually (and there's got to be a different word to describe what you're doing that doesn't at least tangentially imply that you have any level whatsoever of intelligence) dishonest.

You guys bend over backwards to try to paint your program and its players as King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table. You're the only group of people in America who have that opinion of your team.

While there are plenty of homers on this board there are also plenty of guys who will call a spade a spade candidly admitting there are plenty of the less than reputable characters on the team as well as those of questionable morality in the administration.
 
Oh please, you guys are better than this. There is not a football coach in America, at any level, that takes a knee in that spot. You know it, I know it and anybody that has ever watched a game knows it.

Now Cook could have just tackled himself after he got the first down, like he did earlier in the drive when he found himself alone in the middle of the field but already had a first download , but how may rb's do you know that will take a knee when the endzone is theirs for the taking? My guess is none.

Jimbo had to call a time out because they couldn't get lined up, and he was pissed he had to do it. If you don't want another score, stop the draw play from the 30, or any of the other 6 draw plays we ran in a row in that 90-yard drive. A draw from the 30 is NOT running up the score, especally when it's the seventh in a row. Face it, your D just quit on those last 2 drives and it is understandable. They are a championship level D that could tell your O wasn't going to score if they played 10 more quarters and were alowed 5 downs. The program that idolizes one Stephen Orr Spurrier is the very last program that has any business whining about ruts.
Cook didn't score on a draw play. It was a toss sweep.
 
What's the problem with holding a serious grudge? I can hold a mean grudge. When I was an ASA, God help you if you got on my "no deals; trial only" list.

This ain't Sunday School. We play for keeps in life. Last man standing.

Good point. I guess there are things worth holding grudges for and then there are some not worth the effort.
 
I'm thrilled he scored. I called it "Candi Misdirection Wham Left". It might build a fire but the fire will have to wait for 2 years I suspect because FSU will more than likely win again next year in Tallahassee.
 
You moron, he's not whining about it. He's written several times he doesn't have a problem with it. His problem lies with the fact that you're intellectually (and there's got to be a different word to describe what you're doing that doesn't at least tangentially imply that you have any level whatsoever of intelligence) dishonest.

Yea, the idiots act like we are whining about it, when we are not. They impulsively try and defend something, even when it does not need defending. A position that is not being attacked.

I guess they just can't help themselves.
 
Stop being a baby.

Fisher was RUTS and that is fine. He called a time out to RUTS. That is also fine.

All I know is he ran 7 straight running plays including the last from the 29. Yeah...so I've changed my mind. He was clearly running it up. And I agree with you on judging Fisher for doing it. I'm fine with it as well.
 
Good point. I guess there are things worth holding grudges for and then there are some not worth the effort.

Concur.

Fans holding grudges over losses is dumb. Coaches who do it especially when you're talking about their livelihood is healthy and desirable.

Meyer calling all of his timeouts at the end of the 2008 UGA game was proof that he'd been stoking the fire over the River Dance from 2007. From the 13:26 mark of the video.

 
All I know is he ran 7 straight running plays including the last from the 29. .
Again, what is the difference between scoring late by running or scoring late by passing? I never understood the distinction. Especially if the team that runs to score is a running team and the team that passes to score is a passing team. FSU is a running team. Hence they ran. If Fisher did not want to RUTS, he would have had his team in the victory formation on the final possession and ran out the clock. He chose not to do that. Bully for him.

In fact, the only criticism that could be leveled at Fisher was leaving his star running back in the game on that final possession. But only due to potential injury. Without Cook, FSU is nothing offensively. On second thought, I guess that does not matter either, as FSU will not play another game for another month.
 
I honestly don't give a crap if he "RUTS" or not. It's a rivalry game. Line 'em up 5 wide when you're up 50-0 for all I care. That said, I did see Cook darn near break one early on that last drive then lay down to keep from scoring so quickly (camera panned to Jimbo motioning for him to get down). After that, he just ran and ran and ran....unstopped he's eventually going to cross the goal line. Don't want him to get there, then stop him.

IMO, I think Jimbo just didn't want to give UF the ball back...scoring was just a bonus.
 
Concur.

Fans holding grudges over losses is dumb. Coaches who do it especially when you're talking about their livelihood is healthy and desirable.

Meyer calling all of his timeouts at the end of the 2008 UGA game was proof that he'd been stoking the fire over the River Dance from 2007. From the 13:26 mark of the video.

One of my favorite memories of the Florida/UGA series.
 
If Fisher did not want to RUTS, he would have had his team in the victory formation on the final possession and ran out the clock. He chose not to do that. Bully for him.

The last possession started with 3:48 remaining with the Noles at their own 10. UF had timeouts. Fisher chose to possess the ball conservatively and ran 7 plays on the ground. I am happy as I'm sure Jimbo is that the drive was a success and ended in a score.
 
BTW, I remember Spurrier doing that against MSU in 2001. Jackie Sherrill was the coach and was a notorious cheater. Spurrier hated cheaters. Plus, MSU had beaten Florida the year before in Starkeville and Sherrill crowed about that all year. As well he should. But Spurrier, being the petulant child that he is, could hold a serious grudge. And finally, MSU boasted the best pass defense in the SEC coming into that game.

In typical Spurrier fashion, after Rex threw for a gazzillion yards against them, he said something like "Well, I guess they don't have the best pass defense any more."

Finally, I have never understood why people think passing for late TDs is any more RUTS than running for late TDs. If a team does not want to RUTS, then kneel on the ball the last few plays. Especially on fourth down

FSU did not do that Saturday and Spurrier NEVER did that.

All that is fine.

Please name one game, at any level, where a team took a knee on 4th down regardless of the score and location. I'll wait as you try to find one.
 
So I have seen it said multiple times now that FSU is a 1 man team. Is that something you want to point out following a loss to them?
 
IMO, I think Jimbo just didn't want to give UF the ball back...scoring was just a bonus.

Not you too!

Here are the final few seconds of that drive;

Fsu at Uf30 Timeout Florida State, clock 01:14.
Fsu at Uf30 Cook, D. rush over left guard for 1 yard to the UF29 (Brantley,C.;Davis,J.).
Fsu at Uf29 Timeout Florida State, clock 00:28.
Fsu at Uf29 Cook, D. rush over left end for 29 yards to the UF0, 1ST DOWN FSU, TOUCHDOWN, clock 00:20.


He called not one, but two timeouts.

Again, I have no problem with him doing it. The only possible criticism is that an injury prone star tailback could have been hurt.

But whatever.
 
So I have seen it said multiple times now that FSU is a 1 man team. Is that something you want to point out following a loss to them?
No on ever said Florida was a great team. So, yea, I am OK with saying FSU is a one man team. And that we got beat by a one man team.
 
Ok, cool. At least we know now that for all the excuses of Treon missing throws we can factor in the same for SMAG since he too is not very good.
 
Ok, cool. At least we know now that for all the excuses of Treon missing throws we can factor in the same for SMAG since he too is not very good.
Did not say that.

In fact, I think SMAG is a better QB than Treon. But then to your point, that is really not high praise, is it?

If he was that good, then why didn't your coach name him the starter at the beginning of the year?
 
Not you too!

Here are the final few seconds of that drive;

Fsu at Uf30 Timeout Florida State, clock 01:14.
Fsu at Uf30 Cook, D. rush over left guard for 1 yard to the UF29 (Brantley,C.;Davis,J.).
Fsu at Uf29 Timeout Florida State, clock 00:28.
Fsu at Uf29 Cook, D. rush over left end for 29 yards to the UF0, 1ST DOWN FSU, TOUCHDOWN, clock 00:20.


He called not one, but two timeouts.

Again, I have no problem with him doing it. The only possible criticism is that an injury prone star tailback could have been hurt.

But whatever.

Well, then good for Jimbo. Pound it down the field in front of a record breaking crowd full of recruits!
 
[QUOTE="alaskanseminole, post: 519317, member: 990" in front of a record breaking crowd full of recruits![/QUOTE]
That part didn't seem to matter did it...I mean, you did see the verbals after the game right...
 
BTW, had Cook been kicked off your team, or stayed hurt after he came up lame at the beginning of the season, how do you think your season might have gone? I mean, he was a bit lame in the GaTech game and we saw how that turned out.
 
Not you too!

Here are the final few seconds of that drive;

Fsu at Uf30 Timeout Florida State, clock 01:14.
Fsu at Uf30 Cook, D. rush over left guard for 1 yard to the UF29 (Brantley,C.;Davis,J.).
Fsu at Uf29 Timeout Florida State, clock 00:28.
Fsu at Uf29 Cook, D. rush over left end for 29 yards to the UF0, 1ST DOWN FSU, TOUCHDOWN, clock 00:20.


He called not one, but two timeouts.

Again, I have no problem with him doing it. The only possible criticism is that an injury prone star tailback could have been hurt.

But whatever.

(Brantley,C.;Davis,J.) Well, that busts one gator lie. Someone said that UF had all backups on defense in the last series.
 
BTW, had Cook been kicked off your team, or stayed hurt after he came up lame at the beginning of the season, how do you think your season might have gone? I mean, he was a bit lame in the GaTech game and we saw how that turned out.

Probably 8-4 or so. I think Patrick would have filled in fine for the most part.
 
(Brantley,C.;Davis,J.) Well, that busts one gator lie. Someone said that UF had all backups on defense in the last series.
I don't recall seeing that post. Doesn't matter to me one way or another who was in.

Also, it can be argued that while Cece J started the game, he's technically a backup, just like Treon.
 
Why would he have had to been kicked off the team? Are you not a believer in our judicial system and the fine defense attorneys who represent the accused? I don't care about the Ga Tech game. Losing to Clemson alone knocked us out of the playoff and ACCCG consideration. We beat UF. The gravy is good right now.

Back to SMAG. Our coach didn't name him the starter at the beginning of the season because he probably knew he would miss wide open receivers too(excuse).
 
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