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I find tons of inspiration from the Old Testament. The OT and the NT share a common bond: Jesus Christ. All the longing for a Savior from the OT is answered in the NT, yet Jewish folks don't want to hear about it so they can stick to their traditional ways. Like I've said before, what other religion has a God that has risen from the dead? WOW!

I don't read the book of Mormon because it was first published in 1830. It claims that Moroni, a “prophet”, originally wrote the book and that it was translated by Joseph Smith. Now, some critics also claim that Smith gained most of his theories from a manuscript of a novel written by Solomon Spaulding. The Book of Mormon has absolutely no credibility. The people and places are not proven to exist, it was written by a man and not God-breathed. Also, the Book of Mormon contains grave errors and contradictions. Mormons claim that Jesus was a created being and NOT God. They also claim that Lucifer is his brother – and that we too are His brothers and sisters in a very literal way; the offspring of god and his goddess. Mormons claim that Jesus was the first person to receive a spirit body and that He atoned for the sin on the cross AND in the garden of Gethsemane. It teaches that God has flesh and bones and that He has a wife with whom they produce spirit offspring in heaven that will inhabit human bodies on earth. The Book of Mormon claims that Jesus’s atonement provided for the immortality for all people. But to achieve Exaltation – or godhood – it is available only to Mormons who obey the teachings specific to the Book of Mormon. These include endowments, celestial marriage, and specific tithing. Mormons are not Christians. They deny the basic and essential doctrines of the Christian faith. They deny that there is one God, and that God has always existed as He is. They deny the deity of Christ and the everlasting eternity of Christ. They also deny that forgiveness of sins is by grace alone through faith alone. So, why should I read and study their book?
The more you know.

 
The more you know.

Oh, little catholic boy, just when I didn't think you could slither any lower, you just did. You are such a sad person. Good luck with all those purported resurrections. Ever think of how these resurrections happened without a supporting God?
 
Oh, little catholic boy, just when I didn't think you could slither any lower, you just did. You are such a sad person. Good luck with all those purported resurrections. Ever think of how these resurrections happened without a supporting God?
Or didn’t happen at all. They are all purported and based on second hand information.

Don’t shoot the messenger. It just makes you look insecure. Im not saying any or all are or aren’t true, just that the idea of a resurrected deity isn’t unique to Jesus. It’s all based on belief.
 
Or didn’t happen at all. They are all purported and based on second hand information.

Don’t shoot the messenger. It just makes you look insecure. Im not saying any or all are or aren’t true, just that the idea of a resurrected deity isn’t unique to Jesus. It’s all based on belief.
You know what a fake you are and how you can NEVER be respected? It wasn't long ago you were bragging about how YOUR church was the only true church. Well, little Catholic boy, I proved you wrong then and your true colors are showing now. What baggage of filth you just spewed out on this site. GO AWAY!
 
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You know what a fake you are and how you can NEVER be respected? It wasn't long ago you were bragging about how YOUR church was the only true church. Well, little Catholic boy, I proved you wrong then and your true colors are showing now. What baggage of filth you just spewed out on this site. GO AWAY!
Why do you hate the fact that I bring more religious knowledge than you?

I respect all religions as long as they aren't used to hate or repress those who don't succumb to their beliefs. Those are the dangerous ones. I think you fall into that category. God shouldn't be used as an excuse to hate.
 
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Why do you hate the fact that I bring more religious knowledge than you?

I respect all religions as long as they aren't used to hate or repress those who don't succumb to their beliefs. Those are the dangerous ones. I think you fall into that category. God shouldn't be used as an excuse to hate.
Jesus didn't die on the cross for us to be civil to religions that degrade what He accomplished on the Cross. You are lukewarm and God will spit you out of his mouth. Here you are:

 
Yeah, to me Jesus isn't coming back anytime soon.
Up until very recently, I was of this mindset. I'm beginning to think we are very close, I've been studying biblical scholars interpretations of Revelation, and I am now leaning toward the idea that God's judgement from the 7 seals isn't describing future events, but rather past and current ones.

If that's accurate, then the Second Coming is much closer than we thought. It also reframes what the Second Coming is truly about and what this world would look like when it happens.
 
I can believe it. There is no better candidate for the Antichrist than Donald Trump.
I still believe this talk is way too soon. It may very well be in our lifetime, but I think there is a whole mess of bad the world has to endure beforehand. There is a lot of Christian mess that might very well speed up this process because Satan has infiltrated the Churching business.
 
Jesus didn't die on the cross for us to be civil to religions that degrade what He accomplished on the Cross. You are lukewarm and God will spit you out of his mouth. Here you are:

Jesus did not preach about “religions.” He told us to love our fellow man, not just Jews Gentiles or anyone else. Your type teach us to divide. And I’m quite sure he wouldn’t approve of you trying to decide who’s going to Hell. Follow the 10 commandments and you will be fine, no matter what you claim as your “religion.” Jesus wants us to unite in Gods will.

I hope you see the light before it’s too late.
 
Jesus did not preach about “religions.” He told us to love our fellow man, not just Jews Gentiles or anyone else. Your type teach us to divide. And I’m quite sure he wouldn’t approve of you trying to decide who’s going to Hell. Follow the 10 commandments and you will be fine, no matter what you claim as your “religion.” Jesus wants us to unite in Gods will.

I hope you see the light before it’s too late.
There's only ONE way to heaven and it is through Jesus Christ. That right there is the dividing line. Remind me again where it says we should love our fellow man AND be agreeable to them in other religions who do not recognize this one and only way to heaven? You know how you love them? By telling them the hard truth that they are on the road to perdition. Hell's road is wide.

You fail !! You always fail with your preconceived ideal of who God is. You have placed yourself upon heights of prideful mountains. You really do need to eat some humble pie. You see, I don't think you understand what it means to fear the Lord. You're sloughing Him off as a kind God. There's reasons Jesus proclaimed all those "woes" and "hypocrites" sermons. He didn't die on a cross for us to pat other people in other "religions" on the back and say, "It's okay where you are, because God loves you." That's not biblical. You are a liar and a pawn of Satan.
 
There's only ONE way to heaven and it is through Jesus Christ. That right there is the dividing line. Remind me again where it says we should love our fellow man AND be agreeable to them in other religions who do not recognize this one and only way to heaven? You know how you love them? By telling them the hard truth that they are on the road to perdition. Hell's road is wide.

You fail !! You always fail with your preconceived ideal of who God is. You have placed yourself upon heights of prideful mountains. You really do need to eat some humble pie. You see, I don't think you understand what it means to fear the Lord. You're sloughing Him off as a kind God. There's reasons Jesus proclaimed all those "woes" and "hypocrites" sermons. He didn't die on a cross for us to pat other people in other "religions" on the back and say, "It's okay where you are, because God loves you." That's not biblical. You are a liar and a pawn of Satan.
Yeah yeah yeah. You don’t know that. You’re not God. Nobody does.

And don’t take this personally, but an idiot like you is the last person that should be telling others what to do. Hate won’t get you there, that’s for sure. That you should “fear God“ is so OT.
 
There's only ONE way to heaven and it is through Jesus Christ. That right there is the dividing line. Remind me again where it says we should love our fellow man AND be agreeable to them in other religions who do not recognize this one and only way to heaven? You know how you love them? By telling them the hard truth that they are on the road to perdition. Hell's road is wide.

You fail !! You always fail with your preconceived ideal of who God is. You have placed yourself upon heights of prideful mountains. You really do need to eat some humble pie. You see, I don't think you understand what it means to fear the Lord. You're sloughing Him off as a kind God. There's reasons Jesus proclaimed all those "woes" and "hypocrites" sermons. He didn't die on a cross for us to pat other people in other "religions" on the back and say, "It's okay where you are, because God loves you." That's not biblical. You are a liar and a pawn of Satan.
Btw, it’s quite ironic that you think I’m prideful when you are the one thinking you have all the answers and pretend to speak for God. I’ve never claimed that.

Devil be gone from ya.
 
Oh, little catholic boy, just when I didn't think you could slither any lower, you just did. You are such a sad person. Good luck with all those purported resurrections. Ever think of how these resurrections happened without a supporting God?
It’s the biggest scam ever perpetrated by the wolves in the sheep. Wake up and just be a good human being, if that’s even possible at this point. Magic is fake heaven and hell, fake fake fake. Just be a good human. It’s not rocket science my man
 
It’s the biggest scam ever perpetrated by the wolves in the sheep. Wake up and just be a good human being, if that’s even possible at this point. Magic is fake heaven and hell, fake fake fake. Just be a good human. It’s not rocket science my man
Be a good human and then you die. What then?
 
Yeah yeah yeah. You don’t know that. You’re not God. Nobody does.

And don’t take this personally, but an idiot like you is the last person that should be telling others what to do. Hate won’t get you there, that’s for sure. That you should “fear God“ is so OT.
You CANNOT separate the OT from the NT. What planet are you from? Do you even know what fear of the Lord means? Apparently, you do not. Luke 1:50 "And his mercy is from generation unto generations, to them that fear him." It is NOT "so OT." You are blinded by darkness. You have a reprobate mind. It is closed off. I cannot present pearls to you because you will not receive them. I shake the dust off of my feet and will say bu-bye to you.




 
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Nobody knows, likely nothing. It’s not really relevant though, be a good human.
Really, so we were born with these awesome bodies and then we simply die? Where did we come from? How did we even begin? I honestly do not understand how somebody can slough off any aspect of an afterlife.
 
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Really, so we were born with these awesome bodies and then we simply die? Where did we come from? How did we even begin? I honestly do not understand how somebody can slough off any aspect of an afterlife.
Most people don’t have awesome bodies most people are brutally unattractive first of all. Second, no don’t knows the answers to your questions, most certainly not the charlatans involved in the religious scams, they prey on peoples vulnerabilities and insecurities. Just be a good human.
 
The Bible's description in Revelation of what the antichrist will be like doesn't really fit Trump IMO. Which verse(s) are you basing this theory on?

I don’t personally think there is an antichrist, Trump or not. But since people are bringing up Revelation, Trump’s capacity to deceive and turn people against each other fits the part better than anyone alive.

But since you asked for specific verses:
  1. Revelation 13:1: "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."
    Correlation: This could be interpreted as a figure rising to power unexpectedly (like a beast rising out of the sea), which some could argue reflects Trump's unexpected rise in the 2016 Presidential Election. The phrase "name of blasphemy" could be interpreted as referring to Trump's frequently controversial and inflammatory remarks.
  2. Revelation 13:5-8: "And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months... And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."
    Correlation: The phrase "a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies" could be interpreted as referring to Trump's grandiose speaking style and controversial remarks. The "forty and two months" could be seen as roughly equivalent to a presidential term (though an actual term is 48 months). The part about people worshipping him might reflect the intense loyalty of some of Trump's supporters.
  3. Revelation 17:11: "And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition."
    Correlation: This could be interpreted as referring to a figure who has been in power, is not currently in power, but will return to power again. Some could argue this potentially matches Trump's presidency, his subsequent loss, and the possibility of him running for a second term.
 
I don’t personally think there is an antichrist, Trump or not. But since people are bringing up Revelation, Trump’s capacity to deceive and turn people against each other fits the part better than anyone alive.

But since you asked for specific verses:
  1. Revelation 13:1: "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."
    Correlation: This could be interpreted as a figure rising to power unexpectedly (like a beast rising out of the sea), which some could argue reflects Trump's unexpected rise in the 2016 Presidential Election. The phrase "name of blasphemy" could be interpreted as referring to Trump's frequently controversial and inflammatory remarks.
  2. Revelation 13:5-8: "And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months... And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world."
    Correlation: The phrase "a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies" could be interpreted as referring to Trump's grandiose speaking style and controversial remarks. The "forty and two months" could be seen as roughly equivalent to a presidential term (though an actual term is 48 months). The part about people worshipping him might reflect the intense loyalty of some of Trump's supporters.
  3. Revelation 17:11: "And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition."
    Correlation: This could be interpreted as referring to a figure who has been in power, is not currently in power, but will return to power again. Some could argue this potentially matches Trump's presidency, his subsequent loss, and the possibility of him running for a second term.
I really don't see your reasoning on any of those. The antichrist is said to be someone who will be overwhelmingly popular, essentially almost everyone will adore him, then he will call on his followers to worship him.

As you are happy to remind us, over half the country hates Trump so much they vote for Biden just to keep him out of office. That alone disqualifies him for consideration of being the antichrist.

BTW back to point #1, @Dr. Curmudgeon likely knows more, but I believe the beasts are generally considered to be symbolic for empires, and the horns represent kings in that empire.
 
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I really don't see your reasoning on any of those. The antichrist is said to be someone who will be overwhelmingly popular, essentially almost everyone will adore him, then he will call on his followers to worship him.

As you are happy to remind us, over half the country hates Trump so much they vote for Biden just to keep him out of office. That alone disqualifies him for consideration of being the antichrist.

BTW back to point #1, @Dr. Curmudgeon likely knows more, but I believe the beasts are generally considered to be symbolic for empires, and the horns represent kings in that empire.
You still believe in the Easter bunny too? SHEEP!!!
 
BTW back to Revelation, the general thought seems to be that Revelation describes FUTURE events that will be triggered by man's continual slide into immoral behavior until God simply cannot take anymore and His judgement is poured out on the sinners of the world and then Christ returns as King. Or the King of Kings.

There's another thought about Revelation that I've been studying recently. It's the thought that the events in Revelation aren't describing future events, but rather past and current events. And Christ is described as the King of kings, but that doesnt mean that Christ is the King of the kings on earth, it means that ALL of Christ's followers are Kings, and the Second Coming will be triggered when Christ's followers realize and claim their birthright as kings.

The second possibility seems to also satisfy the proclamation that even Christ doesn't know the hour of His return. Because His return will happen when His followers have proven that they are ready for the final battle with satan.
 
You CANNOT separate the OT from the NT. What planet are you from? Do you even know what fear of the Lord means? Apparently, you do not. Luke 1:50 "And his mercy is from generation unto generations, to them that fear him." It is NOT "so OT." You are blinded by darkness. You have a reprobate mind. It is closed off. I cannot present pearls to you because you will not receive them. I shake the dust off of my feet and will say bu-bye to you.




Do you even New Covenant bro?
 
You CANNOT separate the OT from the NT. What planet are you from?
I have him on Ignore, but I honestly think he's just insecure about his understanding of the Bible. He always went into attack mode any time a thread was started that mentioned scripture.

Which is ridiculous, no one knows it all, just humble yourself and listen so you can learn.
 
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I really don't see your reasoning on any of those. The antichrist is said to be someone who will be overwhelmingly popular, essentially almost everyone will adore him, then he will call on his followers to worship him.

As you are happy to remind us, over half the country hates Trump so much they vote for Biden just to keep him out of office. That alone disqualifies him for consideration of being the antichrist.

BTW back to point #1, @Dr. Curmudgeon likely knows more, but I believe the beasts are generally considered to be symbolic for empires, and the horns represent kings in that empire.
Yes, you are correct many things are going to be countries like the dragon from the east will probably be China and so on. I just know that if you aren't obeying the new Covenant with Christ it won't matter what it means you are not wanting to see what really takes place.
 
I have him on Ignore, but I honestly think he's just insecure about his understanding of the Bible. He always went into attack mode any time a thread was started that mentioned scripture.

Which is ridiculous, no one knows it all, just humble yourself and listen so you can learn.
Of course you do my little snowflake. How’s Oklahoma doing?
 
That you should “fear God“ is so OT.

Revelation 14:7 "Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water.”

1 Peter 2:17 "Honor all men; love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the king."

Matthew 10:28 "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell."

Luke 12:5 "But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has power to cast into hell; yes, I tell you, fear him!"

Weird....all New Testament.
 
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Revelation 14:7 "Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water.”

1 Peter 2:17 "Honor all men; love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the king."

Matthew 10:28 "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell."

Luke 12:5 "But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has power to cast into hell; yes, I tell you, fear him!"

Weird....all New Testament.
If you don't fear damnation then you are destined for it.
 
Revelation 14:7 "Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water.”

1 Peter 2:17 "Honor all men; love the brotherhood, fear God, honor the king."

Matthew 10:28 "Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell."

Luke 12:5 "But I will warn you whom to fear: fear him who, after he has killed, has power to cast into hell; yes, I tell you, fear him!"

Weird....all New Testament.
I've never understood why he thinks this is a smart troll attempt.
 
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The second possibility seems to also satisfy the proclamation that even Christ doesn't know the hour of His return.
See Below about Ancient Jewish Wedding
Because His return will happen when His followers have proven that they are ready for the final battle with satan.(Negative - Christ needs no help and the followers are already with Him during the marriage supper.)
Matthew 24:22
And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

The elect are the Jewish remnant in Israel at the end of the tribulation. He returns to save them from destruction. They repent, mourn and call out to Him.

Zechariah 12:10

And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Ancient Jewish Wedding ritual is the reference to the hour of return for his bride . The son would not get his wife until the father had signed off on the accommodations that they had built for the newlyweds. This is not the "second coming" but

1 Thessalonians 4:

16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.

John 14:2-6

2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.
3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.
4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.

Matthew 23:39

For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.

Baruch haba B'Shem Adonai.
 
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