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Just a heads-up: Ghost gets especially butthurt when someone brings up the Southern Switch. He even called me "KKK Boy" when I mentioned it a while back 🤣.

I could almost see the tendrils of spittle foaming down his indignant chin as he lost his mind. Clearly, this is a sensitive topic for him.

So to be clear, you have more affinity with a guy who blames one particular race and one particular religion for slavery than you do for people who blame a larger cross section of society?

Interesting...
 
Just a heads-up: Ghost gets especially butthurt when someone brings up the Southern Switch. He even called me "KKK Boy" when I mentioned it a while back 🤣.

I could almost see the tendrils of spittle foaming down his indignant chin as he lost his mind. Clearly, this is a sensitive topic for him.
And you know what has happened to you every time you have tried to push that hoax here. You get slapped down with facts and you run. @BillCutting4585 cut you up pretty good the last time you tried it.

I'll ask you the same question: If the racists all jumped from the dems to pubs in the 60s (after the pubs passed the Civil Rights Act of 64), then how did the democratic party elect Joe Biden, a known racist, as the leader of the party? Hiden is such a blatant racist that HIS OWN VP called him a racist TO HIS FACE during the dem primary debates.

So obviously, there are still enough racists in the dem party to elect* Hiden as president.

Apparently there are at least 81 Million racist democrats left. Right?
 
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So who is obtuse and narrow-minded?

Still you.


Narrow minded, hell I m the one admitting White Christians had a hand in the institution of slavery in America? You and others deny it, it seems.

Link to where I said whites and Christians didn't play a role. I can link to where you specifically placed the blame at their feet and mentioned ABSOLUTELY no one else. In fact you seemed offended when others cast a larger net of blame.


This thread was about a white kid using the N-word, well because its in a song

And then you pointed your goofy finger at white Christians and only white Christians. And here we are.
 
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Narrow minded, hell I m the one admitting White Christians had a hand in the institution of slavery in America? You and others deny it, it seems.


Second, I posted a link to the GOP admitting to the Southern Strategy, again denied by folks.

This thread was about a white kid using the N-word, well because its in a song

I use a word, from a song. From one white guy to another, and someone loses their s...t.


So who is obtuse and narrow-minded?
Why are you so upset cause people don't like you using racial slurs in public? Do you realize how bad you make yourself look by trying to spin that it's 'ok' for you to use racial slurs if you are the 'right' skin color?

Just don't use racial slurs? Hot damn is it that hard to act decent?

According to @Uniformed_ReRe you must be a pub, cause he tells me all the people like you switched to the right in the 60s.
 
And you know what has happened to you every time you have tried to push that hoax here. You get slapped down with facts and you run. @BillCutting4585 cut you up pretty good the last time you tried it.

I'll ask you the same question: If the racists all jumped from the dems to pubs in the 60s (after the pubs passed the Civil Rights Act of 64), then how did the democratic party elect Joe Biden, a known racist, as the leader of the party? Hiden is such a blatant racist that HIS OWN VP called him a racist TO HIS FACE during the dem primary debates.

So obviously, there are still enough racists in the dem party to elect* Hiden as president.

Apparently there are at least 81 Million racist democrats left. Right?

You’re foaming at the mouth now. Right?
 
How am I forgetting it? I'm the only one discussing what is factually proven. You are the one omitting who created the market and then projecting that I am.

Blacks in Africa kidnapped their own people and sold them to farmers in America. Those farmers were predominantly white democrats in the South. BTW, this isn't because the South was where all the white democrats lived, it's cause the farmers in the North also bought slaves, but they quickly found out that their climate and soil wasn't ideal for agriculture, so they stopped buying them cause they couldn't use them. Another historical fact that gets omitted from the history books.



'Southern strategy' isn't 'the party switched sides', see you can't even keep your hoaxes straight.

Give me the list of dems that flipped from the dems to pubs immediately after the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was passed BY REPUBLICANS.

You can't do it, cause it didn't happen.

Don't worry, we asked @Uniformed_ReRe the same question and he couldn't give us the list either.

I'll ask again....if all the racists jumped from dems to pubs in the 1960s, why is the current leader of the dem party an open racist?

Doesn't that prove that the dem party is STILL racist?

You jeep avoiding the issues. You're trying sooooooooooooo hard to blame Democrats. No the Africans did not sell their captured folks to "White Democrat" in the South. They sold them to Slave Traders... who were from the Colonial Powers(Primarily Christian Countries) those captured people were then sold into Slavery in the Colonies primarily to White Christians..... if there was no market for slaves in America, then there would be no need to capture slaves in Africa.

How do you keep avoiding this?

You can't say, thank us for abolishing slavery in America, when you started slavery in America.

As for the SouStrat.... you really have no idea what it was. You keep saying "Democrats in the South".... thatvincludes people and politicians, does it not?

The SouStrart, was to flip Southern dems. Do yourself a favor and read this link

 
You jeep avoiding the issues. You're trying sooooooooooooo hard to blame Democrats. No the Africans did not sell their captured folks to "White Democrat" in the South. They sold them to Slave Traders... who were from the Colonial Powers(Primarily Christian Countries) those captured people were then sold into Slavery in the Colonies primarily to White Christians..... if there was no market for slaves in America, then there would be no need to capture slaves in Africa.

How do you keep avoiding this?

You can't say, thank us for abolishing slavery in America, when you started slavery in America.

As for the SouStrat.... you really have no idea what it was. You keep saying "Democrats in the South".... thatvincludes people and politicians, does it not?

The SouStrart, was to flip Southern dems. Do yourself a favor and read this link

EASY, son...you seem triggered, and since you are a lefty, I doubt that you are mentally equipped for such stress! SETTLE DOWN...take DEEP breaths'!
 
Yes but Christianity had nothing to do with the slave trade. Slaves were being sold to Europeans and Americans by black Muslims who did have a religious motivation for their actions.

For the Europeans it was a business transaction that made their business ventures or aristocratic lifestyles financially viable.

It was Christianity that eventually led to the abolition of slavery.

Racism is actually born out of Darwinian thinking which as a philosophy predates Darwin.

You are a bigot for promoting the idea via inference that slavery was due to white Christian nationalism.

As the various churches began to challenge slavery on moral and Christian grounds then the various justifications including the Darwinian idea of racial superiority were promoted.

Jefferson and Washington talked about the problem of slavery but did not try to abolish it because the south would have never joined the union under those terms and because they themselves could not do it on a personal level without financial ruin.

Jefferson to his credit educated his slaves so that when the time came for them to be freed they had a skill and could support themselves.

The Framers of the Constitution set us on the path of abolition with the ban on importation of slaves, the 3/5ths compromise, admission of slave vs free states and the amendment process.

Slavery was "dead man" walking.

The plan was to wean ourselves off slavery and to have 3/4 th states be free and to end slavery peacefully via amendment.

The south seeing that they might lose the free vs slave state game and thus slavery took their ball and went home.

It was groups like the Christian Quakers that promoted abolitionism that acted as a catalyst to end slavery.

In summary it was not Christianity that drove the slave trade or even racism but rather financial interest. But it was Christianity that motivated abolition.

Using the terms white Christian or even nationalism in a derogatory manner is either a troll, being ignorant, being bigoted towards whites and/or people of faith or all the above.

This concludes the lesson. You can accept the facts and move on or just move on.

This is not a debate.


Are you saying the Bible ir Christian beliefs at the time weren't used to justify the slavery of Africans in America?
 
So when I mentioned that you're obtuse...




I was here before this discussion and I'll likely be here after. We discuss many things...not just race, lol.

This is an all topics forum. Gator Fandom isn't required.

You have no idea the meaning of obtuse do you?


So you're saying you have to be from Bama to be a Bama fan? Or no....
 
You jeep avoiding the issues. You're trying sooooooooooooo hard to blame Democrats. No the Africans did not sell their captured folks to "White Democrat" in the South.
I'm not trying to blame anyone, I'm simply restating what factually happened.

Blacks in Africa kidnapped the slaves in Africa, then farmers bought them in America. The vast majority of these farmers were white democrats.

Those aren't opinions, they are facts.

You are the one dealing in fantasy. You are trying to say that 'white Christians' are the sole and only cause of any slave ever being in America LOL

But here's the question I have: Why do you get so upset that I point out that the majority of the farmers that bought the slaves were white democrats? I mean, according to you, the white democrats of 1860 are the white republicans of 2020, so why does it upset you when I point out that white democrats bought the slaves in America?

Cause you know the 'parties switched sides' is a hoax.

But but but....I gots a 'GOP' who said it happened!

Cool story bro. I'm sure Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney and Lisa Murkowski would be happy to tell you the same thing today.

And that's what this is all about: You being told what you want to hear, versus what is factually proven.

You want to believe the racists left your party in the 60s and became republicans. Fine.

Just answer me this: If all the racists left your party 60 years ago, how did you find 81 million of them to vote for Joe Hiden in 2020?
 
You jeep avoiding the issues. You're trying sooooooooooooo hard to blame Democrats. No the Africans did not sell their captured folks to "White Democrat" in the South. They sold them to Slave Traders... who were from the Colonial Powers(Primarily Christian Countries) those captured people were then sold into Slavery in the Colonies primarily to White Christians..... if there was no market for slaves in America, then there would be no need to capture slaves in Africa.

How do you keep avoiding this?

You can't say, thank us for abolishing slavery in America, when you started slavery in America.

As for the SouStrat.... you really have no idea what it was. You keep saying "Democrats in the South".... thatvincludes people and politicians, does it not?

The SouStrart, was to flip Southern dems. Do yourself a favor and read this link

By your logic, the Chinese and Mexican cartels are blameless for Fentanyl because it's Americans who create the market for the deadly drug? You do realize, most of the deaths are Democrats who believe all drugs should be legal?

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By your logic, the Chinese and Mexican cartels are blameless for Fentanyl because it's Americans who create the market for the deadly drug? You do realize, most of the deaths are Democrats who believe all drugs should be legal?

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Nice strawman argument.......
 
By your logic, the Chinese and Mexican cartels are blameless for Fentanyl because it's Americans who create the market for the deadly drug? You do realize, most of the deaths are Democrats who believe all drugs should be legal?

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I mean, look at the covid shots. We now know they didn't work and in some cases are even fatal.

We also know the vast majority of the people who blindly shot up with them without questioning the science were hardcore democrats who easily fall for hoaxes like the China Virus. Or man-made climate change, or parties flipping 60 years ago, etc.

Sheep are literally killing themselves by living to be hoodwinked. It's the most insane thing I have ever seen...
 
I'm not trying to blame anyone, I'm simply restating what factually happened.

Blacks in Africa kidnapped the slaves in Africa, then farmers bought them in America. The vast majority of these farmers were white democrats.

Those aren't opinions, they are facts.

You are the one dealing in fantasy. You are trying to say that 'white Christians' are the sole and only cause of any slave ever being in America LOL

But here's the question I have: Why do you get so upset that I point out that the majority of the farmers that bought the slaves were white democrats? I mean, according to you, the white democrats of 1860 are the white republicans of 2020, so why does it upset you when I point out that white democrats bought the slaves in America?

Cause you know the 'parties switched sides' is a hoax.

But but but....I gots a 'GOP' who said it happened!

Cool story bro. I'm sure Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney and Lisa Murkowski would be happy to tell you the same thing today.

And that's what this is all about: You being told what you want to hear, versus what is factually proven.

You want to believe the racists left your party in the 60s and became republicans. Fine.

Just answer me this: If all the racists left your party 60 years ago, how did you find 81 million of them to vote for Joe Hiden in 2020?
Because our two choices were ‘a racist’ in your eyes and an even bigger overt racist who has absolutely zero to do with American democracy.
 
By your logic, the Chinese and Mexican cartels are blameless for Fentanyl because it's Americans who create the market for the deadly drug? You do realize, most of the deaths are Democrats who believe all drugs should be legal?

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He's playing identify politics. It's easy to blame certain people for the wrongs of the world. It's more difficult, and requires more courage, to cast a larger net of culpability.

Also, few things are older than the scourge of slavery...which of course predates Christianity and modern day whiteness.
 
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I'm not trying to blame anyone, I'm simply restating what factually happened.

Blacks in Africa kidnapped the slaves in Africa, then farmers bought them in America. The vast majority of these farmers were white democrats.

Those aren't opinions, they are facts.

You are the one dealing in fantasy. You are trying to say that 'white Christians' are the sole and only cause of any slave ever being in America LOL

But here's the question I have: Why do you get so upset that I point out that the majority of the farmers that bought the slaves were white democrats? I mean, according to you, the white democrats of 1860 are the white republicans of 2020, so why does it upset you when I point out that white democrats bought the slaves in America?

Cause you know the 'parties switched sides' is a hoax.

But but but....I gots a 'GOP' who said it happened!

Cool story bro. I'm sure Mitt Romney, Liz Cheney and Lisa Murkowski would be happy to tell you the same thing today.

And that's what this is all about: You being told what you want to hear, versus what is factually proven.

You want to believe the racists left your party in the 60s and became republicans. Fine.

Just answer me this: If all the racists left your party 60 years ago, how did you find 81 million of them to vote for Joe Hiden in 2020?


You seriously have a reasoning and cognitive dissonance issue. It wasn't just some GOP. It was the actual leader of the RNC at the time. It was an admitted strategy by Nixon, Reagan, both Bush's and Trump.

Yikes
 
It's actually not a bad analogy. If you would simply calm down and consider the parallels, you would see that for yourself.

It's a very bad analogy..... are drugs like that legal for street distribution in the US? Is the selling of street level fenty sanctioned by the US government?



You can't be serious...
 
Are you saying the Bible ir Christian beliefs at the time weren't used to justify the slavery of Africans in America?
I am educating you.

This is not a debate.

Accept and move on or continue in your ignorance and move on. Time to move on.

I do not come here to debate. I come here for a few reasons.

To expose myself to the zeitgeist.
To educate.
To espouse my philosophy.
 
Still you.




Link to where I said whites and Christians didn't play a role. I can link to where you specifically placed the blame at their feet and mentioned ABSOLUTELY no one else. In fact you seemed offended when others cast a larger net of blame.




And then you pointed your goofy finger at white Christians and only white Christians. And here we are.

You have no idea where this "discussion" started do you?

This is the OP......

Post in thread 'Stokes smh' https://florida.forums.rivals.com/threads/stokes-smh.118944/post-2409994
 
I am educating you.

This is not a debate.

Accept and move on or continue in your ignorance and move on. Time to move on.

I do not come here to debate. I come here for a few reasons.

To expose myself to the zeitgeist.
To educate.
To espouse my philosophy.

You're really not.... the idea that you believe you are is 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. The majority of what you typed is out of context, like the US Govt in the 1800s was some benevolent benefactor of Africans in America....
 
It's a very bad analogy..... are drugs like that legal for street distribution in the US? Is the selling of street level fenty sanctioned by the US government?



You can't be serious...

You of course realize that the importation of slaves became illegal in this country long before slavery itself was outlawed, right?

That is, of course, not the point. Just because something is legal or illegal, that has no bearing on its morality. And that is in fact the point.
 
You of course realize that the importation of slaves became illegal in this country long before slavery itself was outlawed, right?

That is, of course, not the point. Just because something is legal or illegal, that has no bearing on its morality. And that is in fact the point.
Whaaaaat? That isnt even close to the original OP.


Now you're trying to pivot..... as I said. It was a strawman analogy/argument.
 
Whaaaaat? That isntveven close to the original OP.


Now you're trying to pivot..... as I said. It was a strawman analogy/argument.

Ok...so I'm pretty sure that you are rather young. Let's continue this discussion when you turn 30.

If you have turned 30, let's continue this discussion when you act like you've turned 30.

The difference between us...you're trying to win a debate. I'm trying to impart wisdom where it is clearly needed. Does that register for you at all???
 
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