Thanks for replying, I’ve always respected your opinion. Did you get banned on the UK board or just decide not to post there anymore? I don’t think I’ve seen you post over there in quite some time.
So, what do you think of the board?
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I know LOL Just making a point how silly it is for a poster to try to misrepresent their actions to a board that knows who they are better than they know themselves.
Agreed. I’ll come out and say that I like you and think we could be friends given our previous email exchanges outside of this board. Even though our politics don’t perfectly align, as a fellow Catholic I respect your standing up for the faith when attacked by others OTB.
They still do….. When a thread on Rupps Rafters starts talking about Ashley Judd or Rex Chapman, it usually gets dumped into the Political Thread in short order.
Grand and I agree on almost everything. But I’ve never been polled by any group and neither has anyone else I know who thinks this way.
I’m not a hardcore supporter of the former President and would emphatically say so if polled.
But to some here that makes me anything but an American.
I will never be able to understand that “reasoning” nor will I ever identify with leftists who are fine with a puppet suffering from dementia.
IMO neither group puts America first.
I’m not a hardcore supporter of the former President and would emphatically say so if polled.
But to some here that makes me anything but an American.
I will never be able to understand that “reasoning” nor will I ever identify with leftists who are fine with a puppet suffering from dementia.
IMO neither group puts America first.
“Anything” to do with those? Ok. I’ll try.
(Hopefully, I’m crossing no lines with the mods.)
The Left’s propaganda has had the overwhelming advantage of the MSM and Social Media pushing and protecting their agenda, these past several years.
Covid:
Rs wanted to know why Natural Immunity wasn’t even being discussed, and what were the (surely, there were some) side effects of the vax.
The Left used censorship to stop those very reasonable conversations.
Abortion:
Many Rs sat on the sidelines… until abortion-supporters mentioned adding killing the child AFTER it was born to the list of ‘rights.’
The Left says that’s false… or that it’s so rare, it need not be questioned.
Race:
Rs say look at “every weekend in Chicago.”
Ls — “White Supremacy!”
Climate change:
Rs remind people that experts previously said we were supposed to freeze. Then it changed to drowning. Now, we’ll burn. And I think freezing is coming back into fashion, at the moment.
Ls — We’re going to have to change the terminology, again. Let’s try “Planetary Disfunctionalization!”
So, I’ve just tried to respond in a respectful manner with what I believe to be an accurate assessment of the topics you’ve mentioned… in as brief a manner, as possible. Do you find my typical R point of view to be disingenuous?
(As for the Economy… I’ll have to get to that, later.)
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I get called mean things 100+ times per day. So far I'm cancer free...so I've got that going for me.
Pretty good post.
Let me add to the issue of climate change:
Per the right, yes, the climate is changing - it always has and always will. However, there is zero proof that any of our efforts or money spent will have a demonstrable or predictable effect on it in the future. All of these green / sustainable efforts are a fool's errand, especially since China and India are by far the world's biggest polluters.
Removing fossil fuels and relying on EVs is simply pushing an unproven agenda. There is more, but that's enough for now ...
Yes. I do not care what you do. Don't do it in front of my kids and don't ask for extra protection for your rights. The same rights as I have will suffice.
Yes, people will hate gay people just like they hate other groups. Hate poisons the hater, not the hated...and they have the right to poison themselves if that's their thing.
Ha! Yeah, I can see why the mods move those.
No, I wasn’t banned over there. Basically, I left when the basketball team went “woke.” It was like a switch had flipped inside my brain, and just like that… my passion (lifelong fan) for UK was gone. And I don’t care for Calipari, either.
As for posting, I don’t usually have the time. Today is the exception to the rule.
(Note: I have filed your mention of Catholic membership for a future chat.)
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So in order to be a good person, they have to agree with everything that you agree with? Boycotting Bud Light makes you a horrible person? It makes you a bigot?
You (meaning anyone) are free to be trans, gay or identify as a cat if you like. I am free to boycott products that promote crap that I don't support. That doesn't mean that I hate cat people. Also, I've always hated Bud so no, I didn't boycott.
Your view here is far more fascist than the view of the people who you are complaining about.
And PS, in my personal experience, what Ive seen...there's far more interracial marriage in the conservative south than in the liberal NE. Out west it's certainly different...literally anything goes and no one cares (save being Asian...which is weird). Philadelphia is easily the most racist place I've ever lived (briefly) but the communities around Boston, Newark, ect are no slouches either.
Hell, in the NE...they’re racist/xenophobic about crap that isn't even considered in the south (Italian, Irish, Eastern European, ect).
Do conservatives have issues with trans or people trying to trans kids?
I really don't think, outside of the hard religious right (which is represented here), the avg conservative cares much what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes.
I have gay relatives that I love very much, couldn't care less as long as they are happy.
I am angry that that openness has been taken advantage of and now we're transing kids without parental consent and hosting drag queen story hours at libraries though.
Trump was the first President to enter the WH in favor of gay marriage, and has had meaningful relationships with immigrants and minorities in his personal life, so it's nice to see you come around on him.
And boycotts were a direct result of companies not knowing their customer. The avg Bud Light drinker is I'm sure fine with most LGBTQ issues, but the person they picked to advertise their product is a freaking cartoon - who, I'm sure you know, prefers women to men. She's a bit, an act - I don't know one real woman who acts anything like her. The avg Bud Light drinker has a beer after work to get away from the hard turn the Left is imposing on society, and instead you rub their nose in it? Not good business.
Same with Target - they operate in suburban and rural markets, seeing an entire "tucking" and "binding" section meant for kids doesn't fit with their clientele and their morals, leave the damn kids out of it.
And no one burned a store down or caused violence, they just gave feedback with their wallets. It's a free country, at least for a little while longer. I know how much that triggers you.
This is EXACTLY where I stand...and I might add forcing wokeness on our great military is despicable. We should NEVER kowtow to .4% of the population with mental disorders(trannies) Gays I have ZERO problems with
Call me a troll if you wish. I read the Swamp frequently. I occasionally read some of these threads in the Parking Lot and once in a while comment. I have not read this whole thread. I stopped at this post. Oh man, What a crock! I believe what drove off 1776 was the complete one sided vitriol towards any comment not conforming to the general right wing lean of the majority of the posters. What's the use of posting if it will be shot down out of hand? I first entered the Parking Lot a few years ago and thought I would learn something or have a smart discourse with others. I was immediately attacked by most of the group concerning my views on Covid, for example. It was like a feeding frenzy - "We have fresh blood to attack!" No give and take save for a few more sensible posters. You make it sound like the Parking Lot belongs to the radical right and anyone else who enters is a troll or interloper and should not be there. I do not see in the Parking Lot rules that one must lean to a certain political party to participate.
And to say you, Ghost, are "willing to entertain opposing viewpoints" is laughable. Never have I seen you agree or understand a viewpoint other than your own. Although, I do admit I do not read most of your posts anymore.
Some people are too soft...I get it. You do need some thick skin to banter in here. It is not for everyone. 1776 lied about covid. He put his politics above everything. And he got ran off because now the facts have come out...and he was proven wrong. But I guess any doctor that had as much time to post on a message board as he did must not be very busy! LOL I was actually VERY surprised he would even show up here after almost EVERYTHING he posted turned out to be wrong. And the parking lot belongs to Jason Higdon...no one else. I am quite aware of that.
I have no problem with your take, although quite a bit simplistic and not representative of most here. You’ve also cherry picked the extreme Left, who are just as disingenuous. No argument her.
Covid.
It’s nothing more than a cold and people aren’t really dying from it. The vaccine is dangerous kills more people than it saves.
Abortion.
Let’s ban it even before the woman knows she’s preggo, and even ban the Morning After pill. Life begins at conception.
Climate Change.
The glaciers aren’t melting, they are growing. The seas aren’t rising. It’s all a hoax and a money grab. It snowed in “name the city.” PS. It was George Bush that changed the terminology from global warming to climate change. Just the fact that you admit to global warming makes you a RINO on here.
Race.
Way too simplistic to even discuss. And what does Chicago have to do with anything. That’s just a deflection.
All of those are actual positions many on here take. I’m not making those up. So if you are saying there are many on the Far Left who are just as disingenuous, sure, I’ll buy that, but never from any of the posters OTB. . But don’t act like the Righties OTB try to be reasonable in their take. Anything left of far right is considered to be a RINO. Heck, even your buddy UKAlum was blasted for admitting Trump actually lost the election.
To be fair, there's an important distinction to be made: I am only willing to entertain opposing viewpoints from solid posters.
For instance, you have made it known that whatever the government and media tells you to believe about covid, that's what you believe. So I really don't care what you have to say on the topic, since you have proven that you are misinformed. And the irony is, they are about to push for masks and lockdowns again. It will be interesting to see if you have the courage to think for yourself when it starts (likely in the next few weeks) or if you will again go lockstep with the demands of the left.
@goldmom freely admits she adopts a different persona on this board than another board. And that in both cases she's trying to troll. But she also laments the fact that she gets called 'unAmerican'. I've never seen trolls who were also victims, but we seem to breed them here on this board somehow.
Watch how I react to our disingenuous posters like @kalimgoodman versus the ones like @armbar73 who have proven they can think critically about issues.
As I always said, I would *love* for there to be more HONEST middle or even left-leaning posters here. We only have a scant few.
Unfortunately, we are overrun with trolls. Who complain that we don't take them seriously AND that we call them out for being trolls. I've never understood that LOL
Thank you. That was exactly my point. The fact that Fresno can’t acknowledge that fact is why the Board has become what it is. A far right wing echo chamber.
Who said anything about Trump. I’m talking about posters OTB.
Yeah, a free country as long as companies don’t advertise to gays and trannies. That’s what triggers you lot.
Yes, it's all my fault. How dense I must be to not see it.
As I have said before, you see inappropriate behavior / bullying then bring it to my attention ...
Let’s just say that the actual experts, ie scientists, disagree with your take. It’s not a Left nor Right issue. And you probably don’t know that China is spending multiples of what the US does on alternative energy. The Right should quit using them as an excuse not to do anything.
And no one, especially me, is saying to remove ALL fossil fuels. That’s quite a straw man you’ve built there. We’re talking about becoming carbon neutral.
Precisely what I said. Reflects 80%+ of conservatives that I speak with.
I think a discussion of following the rules on this board triggers the trolls almost as much as @Sunburnt Indian's test questions.
Fresno giving a masterclass in creating content that drives engagement.
Fresno giving a masterclass in creating content that drives engagement.
And as I’ve said, it’s not my job. You can see it if you care to. Everyone else can.
And I actually don’t really care. I’m just explaining why this board has become what it is, as the poster above, and many others that have PM’d me and left the board, have indicated.
You asked the question. Don’t get so defensive when you don’t hear what you want to hear.
The right has been far from perfect here, starting with "flip-flop" Lindsey Graham. First they denied there was any temperature movement and then came to a reasonable place on it.
On the right, banning FF for EV sales in 2035 is certainly a "removal motion".
This is a great example of what people are talking about. This car salesman actually believes he knows more about Covid than 1776.
I’m stuck in the middle here. Bud and Target can sell what they want to anyone and everyone they want. But no one has to buy any of it.
Dylan M was a horrendously stupid choice in hindsight and the really dumb thing is that it was an unforced error on Bud’s part from a dimwit with an Ivy degree and a zero understanding of her target audience. The mission is to sell the damn product - and not a point of view.
The same can be said for Target. Yet another unforced error.
Stay the hell out of politics and sell beer and kids bathing suits. Or quit business and go to work for some think tank non profit. Or catch on at freakin MSNBC. My late husband was a Sr. VP of Marketing for some very famous consumer products. He’s probably turning over in his grave.
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Joe Biden and Gavin Newsom want them gone.
No predictions have ever been correct. "Experts" have been wrong the entire time and there is no consensus. The 97% agreement the left uses is just a lie.
And what good is carbon neutrality and to what end?
China and India pollute massively, regardless of what they spend on alternative energy. Talk about a straw man ...
Exactly. But what is “reasonable.” Like Fresno said above, “all of these green/sustainable efforts are a fools errand.” Are CAFE standards unreasonable? Is investing in alternative energy sources unreasonable? Most on here think so. It’s all a fools errand.
And why is it so important to have gasoline powered cars? Isn’t the point of transportation to get from one place to the other? What is the problem with having a cleaner method of transportation? why do have to have coal plants to power our electricity?
I don't see every post here. Sounded to me like you are scapegoating and that's fine if you feel that way, I did ask ...
Until we make cold fusion a reality, nuclear energy is the cleanest alternative.
“all of these green/sustainable efforts are a fools errand" - if you think they will completely replace what we have. they are fine as supplements, but are not reliable as a major source of energy ...
You May disagree with their Marketing Dept. and may even be correct that it was a bad idea in the short run because many homophobes drink Bud Lite, but I just saw a study today that the fall out is waning. Remember people burning their Nikes when they put Kapernick in a ad? Now their sales are better than ever. Perhaps they just want to expand their target audience. Who is it really hurting? No one was forced to buy a can with the Tranny on it.
Personally I dont drink that swill water or shop at Target anyway, so I don’t really care who they market to. I just don’t understand why some people care so much. And it’s really mostly the older generation anyway, so not really their target audience.
You are the supreme troll who decides who is or is not a “solid” poster? Who died and left you in charge?
I am considered a flaming right winger on another board yet I’m told I am not a real American on this board. So that makes me a troll? Newsflash: I am an American, I’m a real person and fakes like you are the real menace. I say the same thing to the hard lefties on other sites.
Your job as a plant operative is to keep certain dimwits in the Trump camp and it’s very apparent to me and others who I DM with.
Social media is full of people like you.
So in that regard both you and the other lefty trolls both have the same mission-get Trump nominated so that the Delaware Dimwit is re-elected.
You don’t put America first. For shame.
I agree it will blow over with time. But the older generation aren’t big Bud drinkers. And Target has gotten a bit pricey for a lot of people and not just older folks.
Exactly. You respond to who complains the loudest. ieGhost and Crew.
And I don’t really blame you. I wouldn’t spend much time here either. The place is a cess pool. But you do get paid the big bucks to Moderate so it is ultimately your responsibility.
Of course some predictions have been correct. Just not the extreme ones the Right always use as an excuse not to do anything.
Here are some.
The earth’s temperatures will warm. Correct. Pretty obvious these past two years.
The seas will rise. Correct. See increased flooding. OK, not as fast as Al Gore said, but he’s just one extreme.
There will be more extreme weather events. Also correct.
And the worst is yet to come if the warming trend isn’t slowed down. Carbon neutrality does that.
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Typical Ghost retort. Call anyone who disagrees with him a troll. That’s a big part of his strategy.
I happen to disagree, strongly, with Fresno here. I think alternative energy is a good source - especially if you can get into a "closed loop" situation where your solar panels can power your home, your cars, etc. It also makes you less reliant on the grid.
I also think that "green" means "use less". An example is "return to work". The irony, of course, is that Democratic mayors and governors want people to spend loads of carbon, dry cleaning materials so that they can prop up local spending at the expense of the environment, household budgets, families, etc. It even go against gender equity.
I do NOT agree that we should give away energy independence. I also think that we can, greatly, over-sell the EV benefits and that the left "greenwashes" horrors such as child labor in artisinal mines in Africa.
And as I said, No one (well almost no one) is talking about completely replacing fossil fuels. Biden’s plan doesn’t come close to doing that, just getting to carbon neutral.
And I agree about nuclear energy, unfortunately nobody wants them in their back yard. And so we continue to kick the can down the road.
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