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Simple Question: What overmatched ACC team will Jimbo lose to this year?

I think people get confused about what the word overrated actually means...
 
I'm glad he is currently FSU's overrated coach. Granted, I don't follow college football quite as religiously as I used to but I honestly can't name 3 realistic replacements that I'd take over him that are currently in the college ranks.
 
Perhaps but isn't Dabo an essential lock to Bama once Saban leaves? Not a realistic choice. Also, if Jimbo has to live in the shadow of Jameis can't the same be said for Dabo and Watson? He too has averaged 3 loses per year as a HC if I am not mistaken? Watson greatly helped his cause the last 2 seasons.
 
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Everyone loses those games tho. Even Saban and Meyer. Hell the champs lost to pitt last yr. U guys lost to Ga southern and arkansas beat u like u stole somethin. It happens everywhere. I always laff when people think it only happens to Jimbo. Didnt the gators win a squeker against vandy? Jimbo, meyer, and saban are above everyone else. Its those 3 right now and nobody else is even remotely close

Oh please, dont ever put Jimbo in that class. I give him credit, he's done a really good job, BUT, putting him in the same class as Meyer and Saban????? GTFOH You sound like a buffoon
 

Well, dumb ass, they have to put someone 3rd and 4th (Jimbo). Do you not realize what a huge divide there is between those two, and everyone else????

And your idiot buddy said, nobody was close to the 3 of them, well according to the article you linked, Jimbo is behind Dabo.

Please tell me these guys are just trolling. They cant really believe Jimbo is in the same class as Meyer and Saban? I really hope they aren't that dumb
 
Well, dumb ass, they have to put someone 3rd and 4th (Jimbo). Do you not realize what a huge divide there is between those two, and everyone else????

And your idiot buddy said, nobody was close to the 3 of them, well according to the article you linked, Jimbo is behind Dabo.

Please tell me these guys are just trolling. They cant really believe Jimbo is in the same class as Meyer and Saban? I really hope they aren't that dumb
I think we can just let the above speak for itself.
 
I don't think Jimbo and Dabo are in their tier. At least not yet.

It's Saban and Urban at the top. I think Dabo and Jimbo are interchangeable at 3 and 4. After that it's Harbaugh, Snyder, Shaw, Dantoni and Pederson in what ever order you choose.
 
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Well, dumb ass, they have to put someone 3rd and 4th (Jimbo). Do you not realize what a huge divide there is between those two, and everyone else????

And your idiot buddy said, nobody was close to the 3 of them, well according to the article you linked, Jimbo is behind Dabo.

Please tell me these guys are just trolling. They cant really believe Jimbo is in the same class as Meyer and Saban? I really hope they aren't that dumb

59 and 9 since 2011 and a NC....ACC titles. Top 5 recruiting class EVERY yr. He literally is making u smell his farts. Deal with it
 
59 and 9 since 2011 and a NC....ACC titles. Top 5 recruiting class EVERY yr. He literally is making u smell his farts. Deal with it

What an intelligent response. Look, he's done a great job, that doesn't mean he is in Urban and Saban's class. They have already had legendary careers.

NOBODY with any sense has Jimbo in their class, that doesnt mean he isnt very good. He's in the next group with Dabo, Shaw, and Harbaugh.

Would you really like me to give you UM and Saban's resume? It would make Jimbo's look paltry

Dont be an idiot
 
I don't think Jimbo and Dabo are in their tier. At least not yet.

It's Saban and Urban at the top. I think Dabo and Jimbo and interchangeable at 3 and 4. After that it's Harbaugh, Snyder, Shaw, Dantoni and Perderson in what ever order you choose.

Finally a reasonable Nole
 
so are their noles that think Jimbo is a better coach than Harbaugh

inb4 "but he beat him last game"
 
What an intelligent response. Look, he's done a great job, that doesn't mean he is in Urban and Saban's class. They have already had legendary careers.

NOBODY with any sense has Jimbo in their class, that doesnt mean he isnt very good. He's in the next group with Dabo, Shaw, and Harbaugh.

Would you really like me to give you UM and Saban's resume? It would make Jimbo's look paltry

Dont be an idiot

Hes only a few wins and the meida hyping him in the championship games away from being saban. Saban got gifted good rankings. Fiaher is a younger saban.
 
I love how the entire judgement and spectrum of judghing harbaugh as a coach comes from the last two seasons... and he's won ten games back to back for the first time in forever unlike any michigan coach
 
Harbaugh is a good coach. No doubt. Jimbo has won 10 or more games in 6 of 7 seasons as a HC. The one season he didn't he won 9. Talk to me again about judgement and spectrum.
 
I can't help but notice that you moved the goal posts from "4 Loss Fisher" to 3 losses.

Why is that?
One of our ancestors was asked once; "When do you change your mind?"
His answer? "When the facts change."

Four Loss Fisher has such a nice ring. So, even though Three Loss Fisher does not sound nearly as melodic, for the purposes of this discussion it is the same thing. What does it matter if Fisher suffers three or four losses most every year?
 
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So, you guys would fire Jimbo, then?
Talk about moving the goal posts.

No one suggested that FSU should fire Jimbo. Or if he were a Gator coach that we would fire him.

I just ask a simple question, which you also have refused to answer.

What over matched ACC team will Jimbo lose to this year?
 
One of our ancestors was asked once; "When do you change your mind?"
His answer? "When the fact change."

Four Loss Fisher has such a nice ring. So, even though Three Loss Fisher does not sound nearly as melodic, for the purposes of this discussion it is the same thing. What does it matter if Fisher suffers three or four losses most every year?

Perhaps since his avg. is less than 2.5 losses/yr. you will want to call him 2 loss Fisher since you know you're wrong with the 4 loss anyway. Do you also wonder what overmatched SEC team Saban will lose to ? And what overmatched B10 team Urban loses to. Barring injury to DF, I don't think the Noles lose to an ACC team that isn't ranked.
 
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Perhaps since his avg. is less than 2.5 losses/yr. you will want to call him 2 loss Fisher since you know you're wrong with the 4 loss anyway. Do you also wonder what overmatched SEC team Saban will lose to ? And what overmatched B10 team Urban loses to. Barring injury to DF, I don't think the Noles lose to an ACC team that isn't ranked.
I think I qualified my original post. The average is over 3 when one Jameis Winston is not your QB.

Is that fair?

Perhaps. But Winston was/is enough of a transcendent talent that before and after comparisons are relevant. That is why I likened Jimbo to Coker and Chizik. To be fair, someone mentioned that at least Jimbo built that Winston led team. And that is true. But he built 3 of those 5 teams that under performed too. And coached all five of them.
 
so are their noles that think Jimbo is a better coach than Harbaugh

inb4 "but he beat him last game"

U serious? Jimbo is leaps and bounds better. Colkege footbal iz about recruiting. Fishers is better, not really close
 
One of our ancestors was asked once; "When do you change your mind?"
His answer? "When the facts change."

Four Loss Fisher has such a nice ring. So, even though Three Loss Fisher does not sound nearly as melodic, for the purposes of this discussion it is the same thing. What does it matter if Fisher suffers three or four losses most every year?

Its hilarious how u think u r driving the conversation. Plz stop embarrassing yourself
 
I think I qualified my original post. The average is over 3 when one Jameis Winston is not your QB.

Is that fair?

Perhaps. But Winston was/is enough of a transcendent talent that before and after comparisons are relevant. That is why I likened Jimbo to Coker and Chizik. To be fair, someone mentioned that at least Jimbo built that Winston led team. And that is true. But he built 3 of those 5 teams that under performed too. And coached all five of them.

Of course if you take Brady away from NE, Belichick is a no talent lousy 16-16. That's probably about relevant with MJ?
 
Of course if you take Brady away from NE, Belichick is a no talent lousy 16-16. That's probably about relevant with MJ?
Wait what? 11-5 with Matt Cassell...yes Matt Cassell.

Started 3-1 last season using Jimmy G and the Brissett dude who was once a Gator.

But back to the story...Jimbo is #3... possibly#4. With Urban and Saban 17 country miles ahead of him. He and Dabo are fighting for the #3 spot.
 
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Even as a Nole, I have no problem saying Saban and Meyer are ahead of Jimbo.

To say he's overrated is a little absurd. No one objectively has him above third. But as a program infrastructure builder, I'd absolutely put him up there with anyone.
 
Even as a Nole, I have no problem saying Saban and Meyer are ahead of Jimbo.

To say he's overrated is a little absurd. No one objectively has him above third. But as a program infrastructure builder, I'd absolutely put him up there with anyone.

Honestly he is the equivalent of Steve Spurrier during his UF days. Spurs was just little bit better. Time will tell if Jimbo is better.

Some on here will rip me for that but I don't get into all the UF/FSU hatred like others.

Now that Stoops is retired and Miles is unemployed it Jimbo and Dabo fighting for the 3 spot.
 
It must really bother you that such an overrated coach is 6-1 against UF.
Yet FSU's hall of fame coach ended his career 0-6 against Florida and in the great tradition of ALL FSU head coaches, left with a losing record to the Mighty Gators
 
Of course if you take Brady away from NE, Belichick is a no talent lousy 16-16. That's probably about relevant with MJ?
Not at all. While superfically you might think that is a relevant comparison, Brady did not start his career as the NE starting QB. That was Drew Brees.

And Belichick has demonstrated that he can undergo massive changes in personnel and still perform at a championship level.

Has Jimbo demonstrated that trait? He has been there seven years.

This year is going to be they year where Jimbo either demonstrates he is NOT a coach that under performs. Or won't. Everyone says FSU has great talent, better than any team not named Alabama or OSU.

Question for FSU fans. We KNOW that Jimbo always gets outcoached and loses to at least one overmatched team in years he does not have a talent like Winston. But has he ever demonstrated he can out coach a team that has demonstrably better talent?
 
Loaded question. FSU has been ranked fairly high since he took over so the talent gap is usually in favor of FSU. That said beating the brakes off Clemson in Death Valley comes to mind. I believe they were ranked higher than FSU at the time. Night game there. Also, Michigan in the Orange bowl 7 months ago maybe. The answer won't satisfy your trolling itch but as long as he keeps owning UF and Miami's ass feel free to angle all you want.
 
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Not at all. While superfically you might think that is a relevant comparison, Brady did not start his career as the NE starting QB. That was Drew Brees.

And Belichick has demonstrated that he can undergo massive changes in personnel and still perform at a championship level.

Has Jimbo demonstrated that trait? He has been there seven years.

This year is going to be they year where Jimbo either demonstrates he is NOT a coach that under performs. Or won't. Everyone says FSU has great talent, better than any team not named Alabama or OSU.

Question for FSU fans. We KNOW that Jimbo always gets outcoached and loses to at least one overmatched team in years he does not have a talent like Winston. But has he ever demonstrated he can out coach a team that has demonstrably better talent?

"massive changes in personnel" ,,,,, college coaches replace about 100% every four yrs.
 
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