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Proprietary COVID-19 and Vaccine thread

Trump's public stance has been to encourage vaccination but allow people their right to choose. So we don't have to guess.

And I think this stance would increase vaccination rates because it would increase trust. It would also not risk severe economic impacts.

But totalitarians are going to totalitarian every time.
Yep, Trump was honest about the shots. He said he got it, it worked for him, he thought it would work for others. But it's up to them and they had the FREEDOM to decide what they want to do.

The irony is, if @gator1776 and @SORT14 and all the other shot cheerleaders were as honest as Trump, more people would get the shots.
 
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Yep, Trump was honest about the shots. He said he got it, it worked for him, he thought it would work for others. But it's up to them and they had the FREEDOM to decide what they want to do.

The irony is, if @gator1776 and @SORT14 and all the other shot cheerleaders were as honest as Trump, more people would get the shots.
Did they?

Or did his natural immunity protect him?

I know, rhetorical, but that's another thing the mandate-nazis won't let us even talk about.

New study indicated aspirin might be helpful, MSM is melting down over that. There are two acceptable discussions, and both are mandated.

Liberals don't care what you do as long as they told you to do it.
 
Yep, Trump was honest about the shots. He said he got it, it worked for him, he thought it would work for others. But it's up to them and they had the FREEDOM to decide what they want to do.

The irony is, if @gator1776 and @SORT14 and all the other shot cheerleaders were as honest as Trump, more people would get the shots.

This is an example of how a tragedy can teach us how misinformation is used on both sides as @SORT14 has pointed out several times. They are using the tragic death of this 10 year old to push the school mask mandate even if there is only mild and inconsistent data that mask mandates help.

They will also us this to push the idea of vaccinating children 5-12 which is still an area of medical controversy not yet decided by the actual medical literature.

It is sad and tragic what happened to this 10 year old child but it is disingenuous to use it to push unproven points of view just as it is disingenuous to use the death of a 16 year old to push an anti-vaccine agenda w/o any direct evidence that the vaccine had a causative effect in his death.

Oh, not that it matters, but @SORT14 and I have never been for mandating shots and have always stated it should be an individual choice, its just that we both have reviewed the actual research and now the benefits, at least for 12 and above, far out weight the risk.
 

This is an example of how a tragedy can teach us how misinformation is used on both sides as @SORT14 has pointed out several times. They are using the tragic death of this 10 year old to push the school mask mandate even if there is only mild and inconsistent data that mask mandates help.

They will also us this to push the idea of vaccinating children 5-12 which is still an area of medical controversy not yet decided by the actual medical literature.

It is sad and tragic what happened to this 10 year old child but it is disingenuous to use it to push unproven points of view just as it is disingenuous to use the death of a 16 year old to push an anti-vaccine agenda w/o any direct evidence that the vaccine had a causative effect in his death.

Oh, not that it matters, but @SORT14 and I have never been for mandating shots and have always stated it should be an individual choice, its just that we both have reviewed the actual research and now the benefits, at least for 12 and above, far out weight the risk.
Look, Jeff thinks it's funny again. He has the best sense of humor.


The National Institutes of Health study on “mixing and matching” Covid vaccines included more than 450 adults who have received one of the three regimens currently available in the United States: J&J’s, Moderna’s or Pfizer’s. The study, which looks at whether there are any advantages or drawbacks to using different boosters, hasn’t yet been peer-reviewed.




Volunteers were divided into groups and received an extra shot of their original vaccine or a booster from a different company. Antibody levels were measured two weeks and four weeks after the boosters were given.

All the combinations boosted antibody levels higher, though Pfizer’s and Moderna’s boosters appeared to work best. People who received a booster dose of either the Moderna or Pfizer vaccines had a higher increase in their antibody responses more often than those who received an extra dose of J&J, according to the study.

The study showed recipients of Moderna or Pfizer’s original vaccines could easily swap third doses; the results were about the same. Volunteers who originally received the J&J vaccine appear to have gotten a better immune response if they got a booster made by Pfizer or Moderna.
 
Trump's public stance has been to encourage vaccination but allow people their right to choose. So we don't have to guess.

And I think this stance would increase vaccination rates because it would increase trust. It would also not risk severe economic impacts.

But totalitarians are going to totalitarian every time.
We do have to guess, he isn't saying that as the president, but my guess is he would not force vaccination.
 
There are literally thousands of these stories in our reporting system...

Many European countries have banned the Moderna treatment for heart inflammation in young people.

But I'm sure his death was totally unrelated.
What would be accurate there’s about 10,000 stories in the reporting system which correlates to the normal mortality rate of human beans over the same period of time with no increase during the period of vaccination. Seems like a simple mathematics to me.
 
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If it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, then it's likely a 1776 QUACK...

Wednesday, October 13, 2021​

New data suggests there is no difference in COVID-19 infection rates between Florida schools that mandated masks and schools that did not. One America’s Stefan Kleinhenz has more from Florida.


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Update: The FLCCC Alliance’s “Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19” has been peer-reviewed, accepted, and published on May 1, 2021, in the American Journal of Therapeutics!

Ivermectin is a well-known, FDA-approved anti-parasite drug that has been used successfully for more than four decades to treat onchocerciasis “river blindness” and other parasitic diseases. It is one of the safest drugs known. It is on the WHO’s list of essential medicines, has been given 3.7 billion times around the globe, and has won the Nobel prize for its global and historic impacts in eradicating endemic parasitic infections in many parts of the world. Our medical discovery of a rapidly growing published medical evidence base, demonstrating ivermectin’s unique and highly potent ability to inhibit SARS-CoV-2 replication and to suppress inflammation, prompted our team to use ivermectin for prevention and treatment in all stages of COVID-19.


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Or you can just put your trust in a QUACK that's getting richer by the day, letting people die from something that has been repeatedly proven curable....
 
If it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, then it's likely a 1776 QUACK...

Wednesday, October 13, 2021​

New data suggests there is no difference in COVID-19 infection rates between Florida schools that mandated masks and schools that did not. One America’s Stefan Kleinhenz has more from Florida.


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Update: The FLCCC Alliance’s “Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19” has been peer-reviewed, accepted, and published on May 1, 2021, in the American Journal of Therapeutics!

Ivermectin is a well-known, FDA-approved anti-parasite drug that has been used successfully for more than four decades to treat onchocerciasis “river blindness” and other parasitic diseases. It is one of the safest drugs known. It is on the WHO’s list of essential medicines, has been given 3.7 billion times around the globe, and has won the Nobel prize for its global and historic impacts in eradicating endemic parasitic infections in many parts of the world. Our medical discovery of a rapidly growing published medical evidence base, demonstrating ivermectin’s unique and highly potent ability to inhibit SARS-CoV-2 replication and to suppress inflammation, prompted our team to use ivermectin for prevention and treatment in all stages of COVID-19.


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Or you can just put your trust in a QUACK that's getting richer by the day, letting people die from something that has been repeatedly proven curable....
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QUACK - QUACK - QUACK,,,,
And just be sure to over pay the millionaire Doc-Tor before you die.... 😏
 
Actually just slightly under 1 million last year.

Hey moe-ron, medicine is not the only thing that a QUACK is ignorant about I see.

You don't need to earn (or steal in your case) a million annually to be a millionaire, it's about total net $$$ worth.
Letting people die unnecessarily has now been proven to be a solid way to become one....

Waiting for you to actually refute the sources I posted for both masks on children, and the use of Ivermectin as both a Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19. (crickets)

Update:
The FLCCC Alliance’s “Review of the Emerging Evidence Demonstrating the Efficacy of Ivermectin in the Prophylaxis and Treatment of COVID-19” has been peer-reviewed, accepted, and published on May 1, 2021, in the American Journal of Therapeutics!
 
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India Govt. Declares Most Populated State Officially COVID Free After Widespread Use Of Ivermectin.​


UPDATED 4:26 PM PT – Saturday, October 2, 2021​

While the mainstream media condemns the use of Ivermectin, the most populated state in India just declared they are officially COVID free after promoting widespread use of the safe, proven medicine. One America’s Pearson Sharp has more.

Use the link and click on the OAN screen showing the volcano info.
https://www.oann.com/india-govt-dec...ovid-free-after-widespread-use-of-ivermectin/

PS - Idiots and fake news whine that Ivermectin is a horse medicine.
They don't mention it's Nobel prize.
They also don't mention it's been used 3.7 billion times over 4 decades in humans.
Do they know that birth control pills use horse urine.
Or the fact that penicillin is made from disgusting MOLD....
What I care about it, is that it prevents infection and/or stops the Kung Flu from killing me.....
 
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Time for a Full Court Press on the QUACK's of the world....

Instructions: To start the intake process call (213) 460-5257 or go to: https://www.amaskincare.com/covid-ivermectin/. Alabama (pending license), Alaksa, California, Nevada. A. Michael Turner, MD. Kennewick, WA. https://www.michaelturnermd.com/. Graduate of Harvard Medical School and the Mayo Clinic.

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August 26, 2021 | Cureus
“Ivermectin as a SARS-CoV-2 Pre-Exposure Preventive in Healthcare Workers: a Propensity Score-Matched Retrospective Cohort Study”
a study from doctors who continued to use ivermectin to subdue COVID-19 with great success in the Dominican Republic.

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June 15, 2021 | J Antibiot (Tokyo)
“The mechanisms of action” of Ivermectin against SARS-CoV-2: An evidence-based clinical review article.” reports overwhelmingly positive data for ivermectin’s use in the pandemic.
“100% of 36 early treatment and prophylaxis studies report positive effects… using the most serious outcome reported 79% and 85% improvement for early treatment and prophylaxis respectively…Statistically significant improvements were seen for mortality, ventilation, hospitalization, cases, and viral clearance…100% of the 17 Randomized Controlled Trials (RCTs) for early treatment and prophylaxis report positive effects, with an estimated improvement of 73% and 83% respectively, and 93% of all 28 RCTs.)… The consistency of positive results across a wide variety of cases has been remarkable. It is extremely unlikely that the observed results could have occurred by chance.”
 
Summary of studies on the use of ivermectin in COVID-19:

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Source: Database of all ivermectin COVID-19 studies – www.c19ivermectin.com – (constantly updated)
 
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Good to see someone is still here $hit posting instead of trying to improve from last place.

Kent state>>>>Numero Cincuenta

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Pediatricians break down conditions in which the vaccine should be mandated for children and conclude that it is not advisable at this point.

"Nevertheless, with these criteria as a framework, the only logical conclusion is that we currently know too little about the performance of any of the candidate COVID-19 vaccines or the epidemiology of SARS-CoV-2 in children to make any firm judgments about whether a COVID-19 vaccine should be mandatory in children. Yet, it is not too early to begin integrating these criteria into our planning to help ensure we get this decision right. Our nation's children deserve as much."

link: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2770123
 
 
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Pediatricians break down conditions in which the vaccine should be mandated for children and conclude that it is not advisable at this point.

"Nevertheless, with these criteria as a framework, the only logical conclusion is that we currently know too little about the performance of any of the candidate COVID-19 vaccines or the epidemiology of SARS-CoV-2 in children to make any firm judgments about whether a COVID-19 vaccine should be mandatory in children. Yet, it is not too early to begin integrating these criteria into our planning to help ensure we get this decision right. Our nation's children deserve as much."

link: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/article-abstract/2770123
Agreed, below age 12 it is impossible to say that the benefits outweigh the risk because they’re both so incredibly low it’s just equally hard to determine. At least at this time under the current strain of Covid.
 
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Agreed, below age 12 it is impossible to say that the benefits outweigh the risk because they’re both so incredibly low it’s just equally hard to determine. At least at this time under the current strain of Covid.
I like the logical outline they put forward. Though I cannot really see any realistic condition at this point that I think would justify mandatory vaccinations, I like the structured approach.
 
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I like the logical outline they put forward. Though I cannot really see any realistic condition at this point that I think would justify mandatory vaccinations, I like the structured approach.
Hey look man, Jeff’s up early today. Good morning @jfegaly
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Good for them. Of course the real issue is the governments put all these companies in a massive bind by refusing to help them in anyway if they don’t force the vaccine. People sometimes don’t realize how much the government helps a lot of these industries out. Government has massive control over healthcare now because they’re the main insurer and therefore the main payer
 
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Good for them. Of course the real issue is the governments put all these companies in a massive bind by refusing to help them in anyway if they don’t force the vaccine. People sometimes don’t realize how much the government helps a lot of these industries out. Government has massive control over healthcare now because they’re the main insurer and therefore the main payer
Except as Dinesh points out there is NO actual mandate yet. OSHA is supposedly in the process of making the rules. Many are taking a press conference as an official act.
 
Except as Dinesh points out there is NO actual mandate yet. OSHA is supposedly in the process of making the rules. Many are taking a press conference as an official act.
Well this is they’re out for now. We’ll see what they come up with.
 
Time for a Full Court Press on the QUACK's of the world....

Instructions: To start the intake process call (213) 460-5257 or go to: https://www.amaskincare.com/covid-ivermectin/. Alabama (pending license), Alaksa, California, Nevada. A. Michael Turner, MD. Kennewick, WA. https://www.michaelturnermd.com/. Graduate of Harvard Medical School and the Mayo Clinic.

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August 26, 2021 | Cureus
“Ivermectin as a SARS-CoV-2 Pre-Exposure Preventive in Healthcare Workers: a Propensity Score-Matched Retrospective Cohort Study”
a study from doctors who continued to use ivermectin to subdue COVID-19 with great success in the Dominican Republic.

==========

June 15, 2021 | J Antibiot (Tokyo)
“The mechanisms of action” of Ivermectin against SARS-CoV-2: An evidence-based clinical review article.” reports overwhelmingly positive data for ivermectin’s use in the pandemic.
“100% of 36 early treatment and prophylaxis studies report positive effects… using the most serious outcome reported 79% and 85% improvement for early treatment and prophylaxis respectively…Statistically significant improvements were seen for mortality, ventilation, hospitalization, cases, and viral clearance…100% of the 17 Randomized Controlled Trials (RCTs) for early treatment and prophylaxis report positive effects, with an estimated improvement of 73% and 83% respectively, and 93% of all 28 RCTs.)… The consistency of positive results across a wide variety of cases has been remarkable. It is extremely unlikely that the observed results could have occurred by chance.”
Rubbish

We need a quadruple blind study of 23 countries that shows no side effects and efficacy in the 90th percentile for a period of at least 5 years before we can let you try to treat Covid with cheap and harmless "horse dewormer".

Now here, take this $700k a dose EUA drug that works in the same way but helps my good friends at Merck, BCBS and the local Pharmacy all get rich. And don't ask questions. You're not a scientist. We have the data.
 
Yes it was. Status meaning taking horse dewormer and not addressing how he got better. It was a slanted take in Rogans situation which was the issue. Misinformation.
Rogans issue - and the reason he was considering suing - was for slander. It was because they were accusing him of taking horse dewormer as a part of the MSM narrative that IVM is “horse paste”.

He pinned Gupta down on the fact that it’s a widely prescribed, safe drug that was obtained in a pharmacy and that CNN flat out lied.
 
That wasn't the issue at hand...like at all.

Yep. The “researchers” are having issues either 1. Comprehending what they read, or 2. Not reading the information posted.

As you noted, the issue wasn’t his status, it WAS they said he was taking a “horse dewormer” and implying he was using veterinary medicine instead of Dr prescribed medication for HUMANS.

This is why these message board “research” experts made up of “doctors that make millions and oversee hospitals in multiple states 😂😂 and special forces expert research scientist 😂😂😂” credibility gets called into question.

I haven’t told anyone yet, but I am actually Elon Musk posing as Jfegaly on a message board. My businesses don’t keep me very busy, so I got plenty of time to be posting on a message board.

It’s amazing to me the number of High positioned, multi millionaire, subject matter experts with such credentials and high level positions are all on message boards all day long.

Just sayin.
 
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