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Proprietary COVID-19 and Vaccine thread

Interesting article from the WSJ:


I regret the fact that I got the original two shot regimen, but thankfully I pushed back on my wife and to a lesser extent my employer on getting any boosters.
My hope has always been that anyone that stopped getting the shots, that hasn't had nasty affects by now, won't have anything down the road. As I've said repeatedly, I have many friends and even family members that have gotten these shots. I would love nothing more than to be 100% wrong on the shots.

But the signs are all pointing in the same direction.
 
My hope has always been that anyone that stopped getting the shots, that hasn't had nasty affects by now, won't have anything down the road. As I've said repeatedly, I have many friends and even family members that have gotten these shots. I would love nothing more than to be 100% wrong on the shots.

But the signs are all pointing in the same direction.
You can hope in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first…

The best you can hope for is the QC was so bad that many people got ineffective doses.
 
The Varicose Veins dipsh1T can go EFF herself.




From last year. Absolute dumbass!
 
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My guess on this is commotio cordis.

Whether or not the vax would have any impact on that I have no clue.
I saw that was the immediate explanation on Twitter, followed closely with 'don't you dare mention the shot'.

There are multiple blows to the chest in every game on every play. From a statistical perspective alone, if this is actually cmmotio cordis it is insanely rare. I saw reference to a hockey player that died from this like 25 years ago, and reference to an NFL player from the 60s that's thought to have died from it.

It's possible that the timing is purely coincidence. If this is commotio cordis and has nothing to do with the shot, what is the long-term prognosis for this kid? Full recovery? Can he continue playing?
 
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I saw that was the immediate explanation on Twitter, followed closely with 'don't you dare mention the shot'.

There are multiple blows to the chest in every game on every play. From a statistical perspective alone, if this is actually cmmotio cordis it is insanely rare. I saw reference to a hockey player that died from this like 25 years ago, and reference to an NFL player from the 60s that's thought to have died from it.

It's possible that the timing is purely coincidence. If this is commotio cordis and has nothing to do with the shot, what is the long-term prognosis for this kid? Full recovery? Can he continue playing?
So I talked to my dad, who is a retired physician.

His brain went totally without oxygen for an unknown amount of time. That's the bad news. The good news is he had the best care in the world really fast.

Likely with the loss of blood flow to the brain his brain is swelling, it's possible they will have to remove part of his skull to remediate that sometime today.

If the flow wasn't interrupted for more than 4 minutes he should have full brain function if he recovers. If it was more than 4 minutes things get dicey with each minute he was out.

Statistically, even with the best care, CC patients only survive about 25% of the time when resuscitated in the first 3 minutes. So he's really far from being out of the woods.

As for the shot...Dr. Peter McCullough posted in Kirsch's substack that it's possible that the ventricular tachycardia and ventricular fibrillation could have been set up by the vaccine. What I think this means is CC is the result of the electrical signals to the heart getting interrupted at the exact wrong moment by blunt force trauma. It basically throws the rhythm way off and the heart stops. So anything that messes with electrical signals, like the vaccine can do (just ask my wife), could potentially increase the chances of CC. So the furthest McCullough will go is the vax didn't cause it, but it's feasible it made it worse.

This is extremely rare. Lacrosse is the worst sport, 10 players had CC from 1980-2008. Only 4 survived. Latest was a 7th grader in 2012 who was immediately paddled and didn't make it. He was hit by an errant pass.

But the numbers are:
Lacrosse = 0.63 deaths per 100k person-hours
Hockey = 0.53 deaths per 100k person-hours
Baseball = 0.24 deaths per 100k person-hours
Football = too small to measure

Ultimately I think this incident was just a really freak accident. I'm praying this young man lives, but I think his football days are over.
 
So I talked to my dad, who is a retired physician.

His brain went totally without oxygen for an unknown amount of time. That's the bad news. The good news is he had the best care in the world really fast.

Likely with the loss of blood flow to the brain his brain is swelling, it's possible they will have to remove part of his skull to remediate that sometime today.

If the flow wasn't interrupted for more than 4 minutes he should have full brain function if he recovers. If it was more than 4 minutes things get dicey with each minute he was out.

Statistically, even with the best care, CC patients only survive about 25% of the time when resuscitated in the first 3 minutes. So he's really far from being out of the woods.

As for the shot...Dr. Peter McCullough posted in Kirsch's substack that it's possible that the ventricular tachycardia and ventricular fibrillation could have been set up by the vaccine. What I think this means is CC is the result of the electrical signals to the heart getting interrupted at the exact wrong moment by blunt force trauma. It basically throws the rhythm way off and the heart stops. So anything that messes with electrical signals, like the vaccine can do (just ask my wife), could potentially increase the chances of CC. So the furthest McCullough will go is the vax didn't cause it, but it's feasible it made it worse.

This is extremely rare. Lacrosse is the worst sport, 10 players had CC from 1980-2008. Only 4 survived. Latest was a 7th grader in 2012 who was immediately paddled and didn't make it. He was hit by an errant pass.

But the numbers are:
Lacrosse = 0.63 deaths per 100k person-hours
Hockey = 0.53 deaths per 100k person-hours
Baseball = 0.24 deaths per 100k person-hours
Football = too small to measure

Ultimately I think this incident was just a really freak accident. I'm praying this young man lives, but I think his football days are over.
The Twitters is claiming he got boosted on 12/26.
 
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Nobody knows everything about any subject, field, or area of expertise. Everything in life is case by case, medically, relationships, each person's own unique circumstances, etc. With that said, my family and I feel comfortable that we did not get this specific vax. We each independently came to the same determination based on our own research and hearsay. My wife's friend's father is a veteran cardiologist in private practice and he told family and friends from the jump not to get this vax due to the spike, pun intended, in new patients coming into his practice, especially young kids and young adults, with heart issues. He's aged in his 60's and he never seen so many patients as he has the past two years. Separately, I also have had a friend die within 24 hours of getting the Vax, he was 43 years old. My family had already decided not to get this vax before hearing about the aforementioned cardiologist's experience and before knowing my buddy died. Those incidents only solidified our skepticism and assured us of our decisions not to take this vax. I combined empirical evidence, expert opinions, gut instincts, logic, and common sense in my decision to not get the vax. This was a new substance and new technology shot that wasn't properly tested via clinical trials on humans. Scientists, politicians, doctors, researchers, etc. are all human. As with all things in life, remember "buyer beware" and "to err is human". When in doubt in life, go direct to God, Jesus, Holy Spirit and you'll never be led astray.
 
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The Twitters is claiming he got boosted on 12/26.
 
Nobody knows everything about any subject, field, or area of expertise. Everything in life is case by case, medically, relationships, each person's own unique circumstances, etc. With that said, my family and I feel comfortable that we did not get this specific vax. We each independently came to the same determination based on our own research and hearsay. My wife's friend's father is a veteran cardiologist in private practice and he told family and friends from the jump not to get this vax due to the spike, pun intended, in new patients coming into his practice, especially young kids and young adults, with heart issues. He's aged in his 60's and he never seen so many patients as he has the past two years. Separately, I also have had a friend die within 24 hours of getting the Vax, he was 43 years old. My family had already decided not to get this vax before hearing about the aforementioned cardiologist's experience and before knowing my buddy died. Those incidents only solidified our skepticism and assured us of our decisions not to take this vax. I combined empirical evidence, expert opinions, gut instincts, logic, and common sense in my decision to not get the vax. This was a new substance and new technology shot that wasn't properly tested via clinical trials on humans. Scientists, politicians, doctors, researchers, etc. are all human. As with all things in life, remember "buyer beware" and "to err is human". When in doubt in life, go direct to God, Jesus, Holy Spirit and you'll never be led astray.
Man I wish I was in your boat. Worst mistake I've ever made and I've made some doozies.

Only thing I hold onto is I didn't get the mRNA. Unfortunately my wife did.
 
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Man I wish I was in your boat. Worst mistake I've ever made and I've made some doozies.

Only thing I hold onto is I didn't get the mRNA. Unfortunately my wife did.
It wasn't as easy as I laid that all out because this covid era time-line has coincided with my brain cancer time-line so I was focused on pharma stuff that goes into my body for other reasons than just covid. My diagnosis and treatments the past almost three years gave me the interest and time to research stuff more so than if I hadn't had cancer. Combine that with my wife having MS, an auto-immune disease, and we were both more inclined to know about pharma and our immune systems more so than the average person. If not for both of our compromised immune systems during covid era, we may have nonchalantly gotten the vax too. Some people, including CDC, MSM and family and friends, said people like us should be at the front of the line for the vax but us having compromised immune systems was further reason for us not to get the vax because when you have something go screwy with your health you become more educated and interested in such things and that is additionally why we were predisposed to gathering as much info as we could before taking such a novel so called "vax".
 
@BSC911 is on the Twitters?
 
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I don't wish anything bad on any innocent victim. That said...... 🤓

Players traumatized, fans in attendance traumatized, television audience traumatized...
What a pack of drama-queen BS and media-moron abuse of a situation imo.
Just take him to a hospital and move on....

That's a millionaire playing a game with some of the best insurance available to care for him and his family. Every time this story comes up again, I switch the channel to something worth watching.
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I saw a young man sucked up a Jets intake with a big puff of smoke coming out the back.
I later walked by as a corpsman came out of that intake with a plastic bag of what was left. A small piece of jersey, a piece of helmet, and about a half gallon of red liquid. A closed casket resulted.
That was not the only incident I witnessed personally, just one of the many.
Everyone accepted the situation and kept on doing their jobs, as was expected on a daily/hourly basis, while making a chump-change income in service to their country. Then they had the VA hospital to support them later....
The VA Hospital, a veterans 2nd chance to die for his country.

I overheard an old Vet quietly singing a round over and over, while waiting in a long line for service:
"Roll, roll, roll a joint, take a hit of wine,
tell the world to go to hell, cause everything is fine...."
(at first funny, and then depressing at the same time)


Guys step on mines. Vehicles roll over IUD's. Heads get blown off the guy standing next to you, while the job continues unabated....

Then the survivors come home to find their homes broken and their houses up for sale. Private Organizations like DAV, funded by private donations, have to try to care for the victims due to the Govt. not giving a chit about what they've produced with their policies.


Sorry if I'm not one of the traumatized over an NFL millionaire getting hurt while playing in a game. I still hope that he recovers and gets to move on with his life....
 
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I don't wish anything bad on any innocent victim. That said...... 🤓

Players traumatized, fans in attendance traumatized, television audience traumatized...
What a pack of drama-queen BS and media-moron abuse of a situation imo.
Just take him to a hospital and move on....

That's a millionaire playing a game with some of the best insurance available to care for him and his family. Every time this story comes up again, I switch the channel to something worth watching.
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I saw a young man sucked up a Jets intake with a big puff of smoke coming out the back.
I later walked by as a corpsman came out of that intake with a plastic bag of what was left. A small piece of jersey, a piece of helmet, and about a half gallon of red liquid. A closed casket resulted.
That was not the only incident I witnessed personally, just one of the many.
Everyone accepted the situation and kept on doing their jobs, as was expected on a daily/hourly basis, while making a chump-change income in service to their country. Then they had the VA hospital to support them later....
The VA Hospital, a veterans 2nd chance to die for his country.

I overheard an old Vet quietly singing a round over and over, while waiting in a long line for service:
"Roll, roll, roll a joint, take a hit of wine,
tell the world to go to hell, cause everything is fine...."
(at first funny, and then depressing at the same time)


Guys step on mines. Vehicles roll over IUD's. Heads get blown off the guy standing next to you, while the job continues unabated....

Then the survivors come home to find their homes broken and their houses up for sale. Private Organizations like DAV, funded by private donations, have to try to care for the victims due to the Govt. not giving a chit about what they've produced with their policies.


Sorry if I'm not one of the traumatized over an NFL millionaire getting hurt while playing in a game. I still hope that he recovers and gets to move on with his life....
You were defending freedom and the citizens of the United States from our enemies. When you signed on the dotted line you knew your service meant at the very least two things:
1) You were willing to make the ultimate sacrifice if needed (including Uncle Sam owning your ass for however long you were enlisted),
2) What you and yours were doing was critical to maintaining a free country, making that sacrifice as worth it as possible.

This dude was playing a backyard game for our entertainment and most likely will lose his life.

Thank you for your service, and I mean no disrespect, but try and have a little perspective here. Any time a young person loses their life it’s tragic, but this isn’t what he signed up for…dying wasn’t supposed to be part of the deal.
 
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My hope has always been that anyone that stopped getting the shots, that hasn't had nasty affects by now, won't have anything down the road. As I've said repeatedly, I have many friends and even family members that have gotten these shots. I would love nothing more than to be 100% wrong on the shots.

But the signs are all pointing in the same direction.
Yeah. This is my question as well. I am a middle aged dude that has advanced heart disease ( although I am very physically fit after lifestyle changes ). I resisted the shot until the delta wave, and i gave into fear ( Covid was hitting closer to home ). I stopped after the original 2 shot sequence. I think the shots are dangerous. Hoping its just the repeated boosters making people sick. Been 2 and half years since I took them. I will just put it up to the will of the Lord.
 
You were defending freedom and the citizens of the United States from our enemies. When you signed on the dotted line you knew your service meant at the very least two things:
1) You were willing to make the ultimate sacrifice if needed (including Uncle Sam owning your ass for however long you were enlisted),
2) What you and yours were doing was critical to maintaining a free country, making that sacrifice as worth it as possible.

This dude was playing a backyard game for our entertainment and most likely will lose his life.

Thank you for your service, and I mean no disrespect, but try and have a little perspective here.
Any time a young person loses their life it’s tragic, but this isn’t what he signed up for…dying wasn’t supposed to be part of the deal.

"I don't wish anything bad on any innocent victim. That said......" 🤓
"I still hope that he recovers and gets to move on with his life...."
And I'm still changing the channel every time this story is repeated endlessly on the air....


Any contact sport athlete making millions knows that chit-happens, and he's being paid incredibly well for his small risk, while doing jack for my freedoms.
Maybe it's you that's lacking in perspective....
🤓
Either way, I'm not wasting a second of my time worrying about a well kept millionaire, or donating to his recovery or to his already rich family. I donate yearly to the DAV and others that are worth my time and money.

When people care as much about the crippled, dead and dying veterans that secure their freedoms, then I might gain some perspective to suit you.
Until then,,,
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"I don't wish anything bad on any innocent victim. That said......" 🤓
"I still hope that he recovers and gets to move on with his life...."
And I'm still changing the channel every time this story is repeated endlessly on the air....


Any contact sport athlete making millions knows that chit-happens, and he's being paid incredibly well for his small risk, while doing jack for my freedoms.
Maybe it's you that's lacking in perspective....
🤓
Either way, I'm not wasting a second of my time worrying about a well kept millionaire, or donating to his recovery or to his already rich family. I donate yearly to the DAV and others that are worth my time and money.

When people care as much about the crippled, dead and dying veterans that secure their freedoms, then I might gain some perspective to suit you.
Until then,,,
😴
1) I never said you were wishing death. But you’re being a callous asshole about a kid playing a game that may very well die. He didn’t sign up for death.
2) What perspective am I missing? I have more respect than you can understand for the sacrifices even those who aren’t injured or killed in the Armed Services make for us. My father and my stepfather both served, one of my good friends had his face blown off in Afghanistan and my lacrosse coaching mentor is still struggling with watching his team lead get blown to mist (for some reason I fell in with some bomb techs in the area, one of my kid’s dad I’ve coached for years was also a bomb tech).
3) Kid was a 6th round draft choice that was in his second year. His net worth is $660k. You act like he’s Scrooge McDuck or something. He wasn’t even close to that second contract.
4) I had to look this up, but his mom was 16 and dad 17 when he was born. Dad saw a jail cell for selling drugs. There’s no “rich family” here. And he raised a ton of money for charity in his short time in the NFL, so they did something right.

I respect my elders, thank you for your service and will respect a majority of what you say even when I don’t agree, but no one gets a “be an asshole for free” card in a situation like this. Have some empathy. You don’t have to donate or watch news stories, but if you don’t have anything nice to say…
 
Do I think the shot had any impact on this tragedy? No, I do not.

Am I a believer in the power of the vaccine? Yes.

Am I a believer in the power of natural immunity? Yes.

Do I believe that the left and the broader Public Health infrastructure overly pushed vaccination and mandates. Yes. Twitter file releases fully underscore that.

Do I think that athletes (or anyone) who is not immuno-compromised should have an open option of what makes sense for them: ABSOLUTELY.

Dialogue, transparency and choice - powerful items for the betterment of society.
 
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1) I never said you were wishing death. But you’re being a callous asshole about a kid (no, he's a 24 year old grown ass man that's already been paid more money than the average top tradesman makes in a lifetime) playing a game that may very well die. He didn’t sign up for death.
Are you also FALSELY claiming that no contact sports players ever die on the job, not exclusively, but certainly in Pro Contact Sports?
BS if so, because you don't get paid like that for playing paddy-cake or tiddly-winks....

I respect my elders, thank you for your service and will respect a majority of what you say even when I don’t agree, but no one gets a “be an asshole for free” card in a situation like this. Have some empathy. You don’t have to donate or watch news stories, but if you don’t have anything nice to say… Yet another LIE, read again the first and last sentences in my first post on this subject.

I also respect your ignorant callous ass, just as much as you do the disabled and/or homeless veterans. 🙄
If you want to call me callous because I refuse to repeatedly watch the media-morons run this story into the dirt, day after day for their own self-aggrandizement, FU and that white horse that you road in on.... I got your empathy swingin.'

"His net worth is $660k." -- Fathead

Point of Order to U -- Damar Hamlin signed a 4 year, $3,640,476 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $160,476 signing bonus, $160,476 guaranteed, and an average
annual salary of $910,119. And he's already in his 2nd year.

As I said before, this callous asshole will be sending my charity $$$ to those that need and deserve it....
🤓
You are of course free do do whatever soothes your own callous asshole empathy.
 
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Are you also FALSELY claiming that no contact sports players ever die on the job, not exclusively, but certainly in Pro Contact Sports?
BS if so, because you don't get paid like that for playing paddy-cake or tiddly-winks....


I also respect your ignorant callous ass, just as much as you do the disabled and/or homeless veterans.
🙄
If you want to call me callous because I refuse to repeatedly watch the media-morons run this story into the dirt, day after day for their own self-aggrandizement, FU and that white horse that you road in on.... I got your empathy swingin.'

"His net worth is $660k." -- Fathead

Point of Order to U -- Damar Hamlin signed a 4 year, $3,640,476 contract with the Buffalo Bills, including a $160,476 signing bonus, $160,476 guaranteed, and an average
annual salary of $910,119. And he's already in his 2nd year.

As I said before, this callous asshole will be sending my charity $$$ to those that need and deserve it....
🤓
You are of course free do do whatever soothes your own callous asshole empathy.
One player in modern NFL history has died, in 1971, and the final autopsy showed he had an occluded artery at 28. NFL players don't die playing football, period. They're elite athletes conditioned for the physicality and technique required to play at a high level and protect themselves.

He's earned $1.6MM of that contract over a 2 year period, and the gov't is gonna take close to half at his income level. Plus he lives in a heavily taxed state - 22 of the 25 highest taxed counties in the country are in NY State. So yea, he's worth about $600k max, most assets depreciate. You do understand that they don't just hand over your entire contract day 1, don't you?

And I'm not suggesting you to send money, publicly support the kid or show any sort of compassion or empathy, just try to turn down being a jerk about it. No one is saying he's a kid who gave his life or health defending the country, and no one is equating his situation to that except you.
 
I hate this.

There have been nearly zero instances of commotio cordis in the history of all levels of football reported. In the US we only get 15-20 reported in total per year, and only 28% of those are over the age of 18 (it's thought that the full development of the chest cavity provides adequate protection).

It happens most often in projectile sports - lacrosse, hockey, baseball - and occasionally from a fist in martial arts...almost never from broader blunt force like a seatbelt, a tackle or a fall.

I'm not a doctor, and this tweet could very well be right (it was certainly my first guess, as a lax coach I'm very aware of this phenomenon), but it feels like anyone making this diagnosis that isn't his doctor and at the same time telling you there's no way it wasn't a result of the vaccine is pushing a narrative.

Bottom line is we don't know.
 

Confirmed: Covid Boosters Trigger Metastasis​

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STORY AT-A-GLANCE
  • Cancer rates have increased since the introduction of the COVID shots and is now one of the top three leading causes of premature death among younger adults — a trend that in turn is driving down U.S. life expectancy
  • The leading causes of death in 2021 were heart disease and cancer, both of which are potential side effects of the COVID jabs
  • Dr. Angus Dalgleish, professor of oncology at St. George’s University of London, warns that COVID boosters may be causing aggressive metastatic cancers
  • Research shows SARS-CoV-2 spike protein obliterates 90% of the DNA repair mechanism in lymphocytes, a type of white blood cell that helps your body fight infection and chronic disease, including cancer
  • The COVID jab is less effective in lymphoma patients. Emory University researchers found only 68% of non-Hodgkin lymphoma and chronic lymphocytic leukemia developed neutralizing antibodies after the second dose, compared to 100% of healthy controls
 
I hate this.

There have been nearly zero instances of commotio cordis in the history of all levels of football reported. In the US we only get 15-20 reported in total per year, and only 28% of those are over the age of 18 (it's thought that the full development of the chest cavity provides adequate protection).

It happens most often in projectile sports - lacrosse, hockey, baseball - and occasionally from a fist in martial arts...almost never from broader blunt force like a seatbelt, a tackle or a fall.

I'm not a doctor, and this tweet could very well be right (it was certainly my first guess, as a lax coach I'm very aware of this phenomenon), but it feels like anyone making this diagnosis that isn't his doctor and at the same time telling you there's no way it wasn't a result of the vaccine is pushing a narrative.

Bottom line is we don't know.
Yeah, that pisses me off. How many will probably have to die before they "get it". Soccer players been dropping like flies lately and NOT from blunt forced trauma. Yeah, that pisses me off.
 
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Yeah, that pisses me off. How many will probably have to die before they "get it". Soccer players been dropping like flies lately and NOT from blunt forced trauma. Yeah, that pisses me off.
The pro vax crowd points to the fact that Covid affects the respiratory and circulatory system.

It's not the vax it's the virus in other words.
 
1) I never said you were wishing death. But you’re being a callous asshole about a kid playing a game that may very well die. He didn’t sign up for death.
2) What perspective am I missing? I have more respect than you can understand for the sacrifices even those who aren’t injured or killed in the Armed Services make for us. My father and my stepfather both served, one of my good friends had his face blown off in Afghanistan and my lacrosse coaching mentor is still struggling with watching his team lead get blown to mist (for some reason I fell in with some bomb techs in the area, one of my kid’s dad I’ve coached for years was also a bomb tech).
3) Kid was a 6th round draft choice that was in his second year. His net worth is $660k. You act like he’s Scrooge McDuck or something. He wasn’t even close to that second contract.
4) I had to look this up, but his mom was 16 and dad 17 when he was born. Dad saw a jail cell for selling drugs. There’s no “rich family” here. And he raised a ton of money for charity in his short time in the NFL, so they did something right.

I respect my elders, thank you for your service and will respect a majority of what you say even when I don’t agree, but no one gets a “be an asshole for free” card in a situation like this. Have some empathy. You don’t have to donate or watch news stories, but if you don’t have anything nice to say…
Insta goes out of his way to create arguments, it's his MO. We all like to argue here, but few of us intentionally try to create them from thin air as he does. It's why I finally put him on Ignore, he simply creates no value here.
 
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And not ONE word from the little commie sissy snowflakes
 
One player in modern NFL history has died, in 1971, and the final autopsy showed he had an occluded artery at 28. NFL players don't die playing football, period. They're elite athletes conditioned for the physicality and technique required to play at a high level and protect themselves.

He's earned $1.6MM of that contract over a 2 year period, and the gov't is gonna take close to half at his income level. Plus he lives in a heavily taxed state - 22 of the 25 highest taxed counties in the country are in NY State. So yea, he's worth about $600k max, most assets depreciate. You do understand that they don't just hand over your entire contract day 1, don't you?

And I'm not suggesting you to send money, publicly support the kid or show any sort of compassion or empathy, just try to turn down being a jerk about it. No one is saying he's a kid who gave his life or health defending the country, and no one is equating his situation to that except you.
Anyone that understands how the NFL works knows that your SECOND pro contract is where you make the big money, the majority of the money you will make in your NFL career.

Looks like he will be denied that now.
 
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