Unfortunately this change won't happen for at least another 3-4 years. He sort of has a suck ass buyout.
Is it time for the Mike White era to end?
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I saw Mike White on the back of a Milk Carton.
Florida Gators (Southeastern Conference) (2015–present) | Overall | Conference | Standing | ||
| 2015–16 | Florida | 21–15 | 9–9 | T–8th | NIT Quarterfinals |
| 2016–17 | Florida | 27–9 | 14–4 | 2nd | NCAA Division I Elite Eight |
| 2017–18 | Florida | 21–13 | 11–7 | 3rd | NCAA Division I Round of 32 |
| 2018–19 | Florida | 20–16 | 9–9 | 8th | NCAA Division I Round of 32 |
| 2019–20 | Florida | 19–12 | 11–7 | T–4th | NCAA Division I Canceled |
| 2020–21 | Florida | 15–10 | 9–7 | 5th | NCAA Division I Round of 32 |
| 2021–22 | Florida | 7–3 | 0–0 | ||
| Florida: | 130–77 (.628) | 63–43 (.594) | |||
Let's face the facts....this is not getting it done.
Only one Elite 8 trip. Unacceptable. I think he has a losing record vs. UK too.
It's become apparent White has a ceiling and it's not that high. I am wiling to see how this season unfolds. Still lots of hoops left, but not looking great. This may be the best the conference has been in years.
Agree - I don't think the SEC has a Final 4 team, but it is very deep with very good teams. One of those could sneak into the FF, but wouldn't be surprised if the SEC gets 3-4 into the Sweet 16 and a couple into the Elite 8. Alabama looks especially hood.
Appears something else is going on, Mike needs to get a handle on it like now.
Just like Kirby and UGA he was told by the SEC to let other teams win??
They can surely afford to buy him out and fire him now.
There's no reason to wait until they take yet another season dump.
He's proven to be totally incompetent and will never be up to the SEC's high standards.
There's no reason to wait until they take yet another season dump.
He's proven to be totally incompetent and will never be up to the SEC's high standards.
You mean Florida's high standards...SEC is middle of the road usually and White is right there.
You're so right as usual. The SEC is only projected to get 7-8 teams into the Dance, so that's certainly middle of the pack for a conference.
Since 2018 it's been abysmal. I'm on the fence. Who's a good get that just isn't flavor of the month? Florida isn't elite, but we could suck more. UF's preseason (non-conference schedule) is a lot tougher than most SEC teams. Billy D and Foley started that trend a long time ago. So our overall schedule is a killer compared to the cream puffs the rest of the SEC plays prior to conference play. Every year, several SEC teams have 12 or more wins before even meeting a conference game.
Florida & Kentucky have historically played a tougher non-conference schedule than the rest of the SEC, for sure. That's changing some. As of today, the Gators SOS is #31 in D1 out of 358 teams. Alabama's SOS is #4, Tennessee is #15, Auburn is #26, LSU is #52, Kentucky #66, Georgia #87, Arkansas #89. By contrast the Big 10 has 4 teams in the Top 10 SOS.
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Florida & Kentucky have historically played a tougher non-conference schedule than the rest of the SEC, for sure. That's changing some. As of today, the Gators SOS is #31 in D1 out of 358 teams. Alabama's SOS is #4, Tennessee is #15, Auburn is #26, LSU is #52, Kentucky #66, Georgia #87, Arkansas #89. By contrast the Big 10 has 4 teams in the Top 10 SOS.
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Yep a couple of the teams seemed to have dropped off that we got this season.
According to Sagarin Ranking & SoS's (my go to for quality B-Ball info).
Ranking/stats change constantly. 12-15-2021
8. LSU - 180 -- 0-0 & 0-0
10. UA - 14 -- 2-0 vs T-25, 0-1 vs T-50
13. TN - 207 -- 0-2 vs T-25, 1-0 vs T-50
15. AU - 105 -- 0-1 vs T-25, 1-0 vs T-50
25. UK - 351 -- 0-1 vs T-25, 0-1 vs T-50
35. Ark - 275 -- 0-0 T-25, 0-1 vs T-50
36. UF - 175 -- 1-0 vs T-25, 1-1 vs T-50
37. FSU - 90 -- 0-1 vs T-25, 0-2 vs T-50
40. MsSt - 217 -- 0-3 vs T-50
Those are the 8 SEC teams (at this moment in time) that would be in the Top 68 for the Dance. (just a FYI on FSUcks)
By SEC SoS's:
UA-AU-UF-LSU-TN-MsSt-Ark-UK
UA (2) and UF (1) are the only SEC teams with a Top 25 win.
While UF is the ONLY SEC to make it into the last 4 Dances.
Ranking/stats change constantly. 12-15-2021
8. LSU - 180 -- 0-0 & 0-0
10. UA - 14 -- 2-0 vs T-25, 0-1 vs T-50
13. TN - 207 -- 0-2 vs T-25, 1-0 vs T-50
15. AU - 105 -- 0-1 vs T-25, 1-0 vs T-50
25. UK - 351 -- 0-1 vs T-25, 0-1 vs T-50
35. Ark - 275 -- 0-0 T-25, 0-1 vs T-50
36. UF - 175 -- 1-0 vs T-25, 1-1 vs T-50
37. FSU - 90 -- 0-1 vs T-25, 0-2 vs T-50
40. MsSt - 217 -- 0-3 vs T-50
Those are the 8 SEC teams (at this moment in time) that would be in the Top 68 for the Dance. (just a FYI on FSUcks)
By SEC SoS's:
UA-AU-UF-LSU-TN-MsSt-Ark-UK
UA (2) and UF (1) are the only SEC teams with a Top 25 win.
While UF is the ONLY SEC to make it into the last 4 Dances.
All good info. But it's the NET rankings that the selection committee primarily uses to decide who is in or out of the tournament. The most recent NET rankings as of yesterday, 12/15, have LSU #3, Tennessee #6, Auburn #11, Alabama #19, Mississippi St. #47, Kentucky #51, Florida #60 & Arkansas #65. Because of the automatic bids, historically a team has to have a NET ranking of under 40 to get in the tournament. Right now, only LSU, Tennessee, Auburn and Alabama are safely in tournament-qualified positions. Of course that will change once the SEC season starts, but the Gators have a lot of work to do to go Dancing.
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What were the NET rankings for the last 4 Tourneys?
I don't have a clue?
I guess good info is useless when it comes to arbitrary NET opinions.
List all of the SEC teams that have made the last four Tourneys.
Now, list all of the teams in the nation that have at least one win in the last 4 Tourneys.
I don't have a clue?
I guess good info is useless when it comes to arbitrary NET opinions.
List all of the SEC teams that have made the last four Tourneys.
Now, list all of the teams in the nation that have at least one win in the last 4 Tourneys.
Sorry but winning one game and then playing slow down to blow 2nd games isnt cutting it.
I have repeatedly said that I completely agree. White is stupid and needs to be gone yesterday.
Fire his ass today, no need to wait for him to ruin another great Gator B-Ball season.
The NET ranking are NOT opinions, Insta. They are what the NCAA selection committee uses most to help them select the 36 teams of the 68 who are not automatic qualifiers. In summary, the NET takes into account not only SOS, but a team and their opponent's winning percentage, game results, opponent's opponent's winning percentage, game location, scoring margin, net offensive and defensive efficiency and the quality of the wins and losses. Very computerized and supposed to take more subjectivity out of the selection process. The NET is where the Quad level 1-4 wins and losses comes from. I've always liked the Sagarin rankings for football and basketball, but that isn't what they are going by. If you want to look up the data and info. you asked about, go for it. But what I'm telling you is that the NET rankings are now like the FBS ranking in football. They are more important than the coaches poll, the AP or any other rankings when determining who competes for a national title. Here's a more in-depth explanation if you or anyone else wants to take the time to read it.
College basketball's NET rankings, explained
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So you're saying it's ok that we lost to a winless Texas Southern team, because other SEC teams haven't played tough schedules? Instalogic, ya gotta love it.
No Lizard, what I'm saying is that Mike White doesn't know a thing about offense or defense.
He will never win anything of any value at UF or in the SEC because he's stupid and he's very sub-standard as a coach.
He never should have left LaTech to come here and ruin Championship basketball that UF has always been.
He never beats quality teams, and he always loses to the crappiest teams in the NCAA.
NOW FIRE HIS DUMB ASS ALREADY.... (hoping that's clear enough for ya)
He will never win anything of any value at UF or in the SEC because he's stupid and he's very sub-standard as a coach.
He never should have left LaTech to come here and ruin Championship basketball that UF has always been.
He never beats quality teams, and he always loses to the crappiest teams in the NCAA.
NOW FIRE HIS DUMB ASS ALREADY.... (hoping that's clear enough for ya)
Again, you think you are being cleverly sarcastic, but all you are doing is showing that you have FINALLY caught up to the rest of us.
It's worse than watching Grantham's defense line up as the opposing offense is about to snap the ball. Jitoboh is, well, Jitoboh.
Every time I see the name Jitobah, I think of that song by Wham that starts, "Jitterbug, Jitterbug." Wake Me up before you Go-Go."
White made some substitutions that payed off. 27 points in last 14 minutes. Our energy picked up too. Now hopefully we will get some second half separation
It wasn't pretty this afternoon, but it's a win. It's as if we lost our identity and trying to rediscover it. Ocala, I see LSU strength of schedule, but when I look at it, other than Wake nobody really worth a crap on there.
LSU's SOS is only #52, but their NET ranking is #3. As mentioned before, the NET not only looks at SOS but takes into account a team and their opponent's winning percentage, game results, opponent's opponent's winning percentage, game location, scoring margin, net offensive and defensive efficiency and the quality of the wins and losses. Very computerized and supposed to take more subjectivity out of the selection process. And except for the win over Penn St. in overtime (a Big 10 opponent), they have pretty much blown out everybody else. Once SEC play starts we'll see how good LSU, Florida and all the other teams are. But so far, the computers really like the Tigers, the Gators not so much at #60 in the NET. Time will sort it all out.
From the beginning of the season, this team has been carrying the crappy HC.
White has shown for years already that he's clueless and will never get UF back to championship B-Ball.
Why wait, wasting yet another dismal season to unload him. Firing coaches before the season ends is not a new thing here, so why wait any longer? It's not like he's going to learn how to coach between now and March....
White has shown for years already that he's clueless and will never get UF back to championship B-Ball.
Why wait, wasting yet another dismal season to unload him. Firing coaches before the season ends is not a new thing here, so why wait any longer? It's not like he's going to learn how to coach between now and March....
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Because they are the same threads imo, so why bother to rephrase the response?
I can do that though, if that's what you want from me.
Off now to make the needed changes...
Michi, You bet your a-- we do. There are those Gators who love basketball as much or more than football. Same goes for baseball, softball, track and volleyball. I have learned not to make comments that strike some as ignorant........jim
Calipari has checked out IMO. He was never that good of an X’s and O’s guy to begin with but now he’s not even putting together a star studded roster like he used tooA lot of UK fans aren’t happy with the directions of the BB program right now. Here’s a picture of the Rupp Atena crowd from a recent weeknight game against a non-descript opponent
The piss-poor OOC schedule has alienated a lot of fans. The data you cite in your post confirms this.
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