Agreed. No clue why government (the state) got involved in something that began in Genesis (the church)
Gay marriage support (morals)
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Mic drop.Lets hope that Clarence Thomas gets his way and that Obergefell is overturned. At that moment gay marriage will be illegal in TN. People can hoop and holler about forcing religion or separation of church and state. To me that is moot nonsense because 80% of the voters in TN voted to make that the constitutional law here. Something about 9th and 10th amendments come to mind.
Rights come from the Creator who has declared homosexuality an abomination. There is no right to abominations.
"Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." - John Jay 1st Chief Justice of SCOTUS.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." President John Adams.
We do NOT have a wall of separation we have a one-way mirror.
Gubmint may not interfere with the church but the church most assuredly has the right to influence the gubmint through the ballot box and rallying members from the pulpit to vote their conscience. This is the intent of the 1st amendment and the true implication of Jefferson's statement. He was after all replying to Baptist ministers and allaying their fears.
He was not replying to Libertarians who confuse Liberty with "anything goes" licentiousness.
"..Freely, and fully have and enjoy his and their own judgments, and conscience in matters of religious concernments . . .; they behaving themselves peaceably and quietly and not using this liberty to licentiousness and profaneness; nor to the civil injury, or outward disturbance of others." Rhode Island Charter 1663
but even after the Declaration we find the founders/framers using the same language to add to the intent and limitations of Liberty.
"The free exercise and enjoyment of religious profession and worship, without discrimination or preference, shall forever hereafter be allowed, within this state, to all mankind: provided that the liberty of conscience, hereby granted, shall not be so construed as to excuse acts of licentiousness, or justify practices inconsistent with the peace or safety of this state." - NY State Constitution 1777
Liberty, Not Licentiousness
www.libertymagazine.org
-Sandra Day O'Connor a moderate wrote the article
licentious: lacking legal or moral restraints especially : disregarding sexual restraints
Merriam- Webster
Well said
Lets hope that Clarence Thomas gets his way and that Obergefell is overturned. At that moment gay marriage will be illegal in TN. People can hoop and holler about forcing religion or separation of church and state. To me that is moot nonsense because 80% of the voters in TN voted to make that the constitutional law here. Something about 9th and 10th amendments come to mind.
Rights come from the Creator who has declared homosexuality an abomination. There is no right to abominations.
"Providence has given to our people the choice of their rulers, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers." - John Jay 1st Chief Justice of SCOTUS.
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." President John Adams.
We do NOT have a wall of separation we have a one-way mirror.
Gubmint may not interfere with the church but the church most assuredly has the right to influence the gubmint through the ballot box and rallying members from the pulpit to vote their conscience. This is the intent of the 1st amendment and the true implication of Jefferson's statement. He was after all replying to Baptist ministers and allaying their fears.
He was not replying to Libertarians who confuse Liberty with "anything goes" licentiousness.
"..Freely, and fully have and enjoy his and their own judgments, and conscience in matters of religious concernments . . .; they behaving themselves peaceably and quietly and not using this liberty to licentiousness and profaneness; nor to the civil injury, or outward disturbance of others." Rhode Island Charter 1663
but even after the Declaration we find the founders/framers using the same language to add to the intent and limitations of Liberty.
"The free exercise and enjoyment of religious profession and worship, without discrimination or preference, shall forever hereafter be allowed, within this state, to all mankind: provided that the liberty of conscience, hereby granted, shall not be so construed as to excuse acts of licentiousness, or justify practices inconsistent with the peace or safety of this state." - NY State Constitution 1777
Liberty, Not Licentiousness
-Sandra Day O'Connor a moderate wrote the article
licentious: lacking legal or moral restraints especially : disregarding sexual restraints
Merriam- Webster
I am a Christian. I believe that homosexuality is a sin. I am an American, and I don't believe that our governance should favor one religion over another.
Not to pick on Catholicism, but let’s use that as an example. Would you be ok if our laws were based strictly on their laws and edicts? Would you be ok with the requirement for confession under the terms laid out by the Catholic Church?
God is more than capable of making judgment without our help. It is not our job to prevent sin. That is God's purview. You're charged with loving others and following His laws...and nothing more.
Our religious freedoms in this country, imho, allow us to follow God by choice. Infringing upon that right is a mistake...and since faith cannot be forced upon another, it's a fruitless effort anyway.
I refer you to my previous post. I do not advocate what you state above. Maybe read the article if you have not. There is nuance there that many miss.
Lastly, I can not force anyone to believe anything and am not trying to. I am stating that TN codified marriage as being between one man and one woman. I voted for that. Should SCOTUS fix their error then that will once again be the law in TN.
That's what I thought. I certainly didn't recall pulling your string.
I think he is saying that your insult is as bad as the insult that brought about the beat down from the movie blindside
I think he either did not read what I posted, or he is a plant democrat that has reading comprehension issues! I AGREE with him for the most part! LOL
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Pro-Semiautomatic weapons
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I don’t know man. I am told that believing in Gods word on marriage makes one a bigot. 😉
Oh yeah. Several on here have called us bigots for religious convictions. @goldmom @BSC911 @RayGravesGhost @jimbo1313R, etc.
I believe that he was referring to something I said. But I obviously did not say "that believing in Gods word on marriage makes one a bigot."
Sounds like you are pretty torn up about it. If you didn't say it then why sweat it?
Nothing I disagree with there at all! I would add for me Pro Trump!
No, it really does not. It's not like I keep bringing it up.
The board libs have stopped showing up and some of you guys are getting restless.
Nerd point...
That line, "I'm your huckleberry" was likely supposed to be, "I'm your huckle bearer." Huckles were what they used to call the handles on the sides of caskets. A huckle bearer was a man who carried your casket.
Huckleberry sounds way cooler so a good choice...but as a nerd I thought this was interesting when I read about it.
The Truth About the Meaning of Doc Holliday's Line I'm Your Huckleberry
The movie “Tombstone” came out in 1993, but even all these years later, one line from the film stands out. The phrase “I’m your huckleberry,” spoken by Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday in the film, can be seen on t-shirts and in memes everywhere.
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