Hate to say it but hard not to see Georgia making it since the schedule is pretty weak for the SEC and a loss only in the SECCG would still get them a spot most likely. I could see Bama losing 2 games and not getting in.
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Hate to say it but hard not to see Georgia making it since the schedule is pretty weak for the SEC and a loss only in the SECCG would still get them a spot most likely. I could see Bama losing 2 games and not getting in.
Fever,
Your thoughts more believable than the Article/Click Bait.
As Insta says; Its Talking Season. Thought I would float it out there just to see other people's reactions.
Is Mike Farrell dumb? Does he realize we have been to 3 NY6 bowls in the last 5 years winning 2 of them? Have we underachieved or been up and down the last several years? Of course! But does he not consider Tennessee, FSU, Nebraska, Penn State, Texas A&M & Southern Cal power programs? Based on his comments he appears to think we should be contending for championships every single season so maybe he is holding UF to a higher standard than others. I agree we should certainly better than we have been but contending for championship every single season is easier said than done.
Tennessee and Nebraska are for sure more disappointing
And to answer your question, yes, he is dumb
I was working for a paper in Jacksonville when TT was being recruited and I went to a rotary club meeting where he was speaking. It was a couple days after the Tide smoked the Gators in Tuscaloosa. TT and his parents were very cool and answered some questions for me after his speech. While we were talking, Urb texted TT something to the effect: if we were on top already, I wouldn’t be recruiting you so hard. National title, Heisman… it’s all there for us.
And you could tell TT was pretty fired up about it.
Urb was some recruiter.
In addition to the above We have been to 4 major bowls and 3 SEC championship games in the last 10 yrs, not up to the Gator standard but much better than any program I mentioned above.
sadgator’s not going to deny your stats, but we’ve also had back to back losing seasons with our last game being one of the biggest program embarrassments in that same decade…
There is a big difference between where we were positioned and headed under Mullen year one and two and where we are now.
Where did any of those “major” bowls and SEC title games get us? Where is the stability, growth, and leadership in the program? It is non-existent. It is a fantasy. Not sure if Florida is #3, but you can’t have a list of current disappointing major programs without Florida on it.
No doubt. Since the mid 2000’s you’d be hard-pressed to find a more “disappointing” major program. They have to be #1 in any list over that span.
The ranking depends on how you define the period of “disappointment.”
Tennessee certainly looks to be emerging from the darkness under Heupel (although sadgator’s not entirely sold), while we are currently wandering aimlessly around in the fog.
UF has less excuse to fall off than UT. UT is in the middle of nowhere. They have no recruiting base. They have tradition and fan support, but so does Nebraska. They are lucky they found Heupel, but at the moment I’d say their trajectory looks better than ours. CBN could change that if he keeps recruiting though.
Heupel has had 1 good season at UT. Way too early to claim they are on the rise IMO. We thought the same way when we had Mullen who actually had 3 NY6 bowl appearances in a row. The thing with Heupel is that each year at UCF he did worse than the year before. I’m not “buying” yet.
My thing with Huepel is at least it looks like he knows how to coach one side of the ball. If his talent isn’t overwhelming, he looks like he might be able to scheme up some points. I haven’t seen that CBN has any kind of edge scheming up either side of the ball.
Dan Mullen could scheme up and coach one side of the ball as well and score some points. You still have to play some defense and recruit.
I think he did a good job of scheming up fsu last yr. Honestly he had the perfect gameplan. He just went away from it in the 2nd half.
I haven't seen anything from Napier yet that makes me think he is the "one" who can win a national title. Watching AR last yr was confusing to me. He recruits well though and that is the first step to winning big. I won't judge after 1 yr tho because it's a different era in cfb.
I will say after Urbans 1st yr I knew he was about to dominate but different times.
I agree but him coaching up one side of the ball is how we got to some of those title games and NY6 bowls. His defense was terrible but so was CBN’s. And I haven’t seen anything approaching Mullen’s offense from CBN. Case in point, Mullen turned an also ran into a Heisman trophy contender and a second round draft pick. CBN had a qb that got drafted 6th overall just based on athleticism and couldn’t really move the ball consistently. Not saying he can’t do it. Just saying I haven’t seen anything yet that suggests CBN knows how to run a competent offense or defense. His attitude and recruiting appear to be huge improvements over Mullen.
I think in advanced metrics UF had a top 25 offense if I'm not mistaken but I kind of agree with what you said here
Yeah his numbers didn’t look bad, but we just had games where we could not move the ball at all. a lot of that may have been on AR but it was frustrating at times. Guy looked like cam newton some games and Jeff Driskel in others.
AR only had 2 games the entire season where his QB rating was over 150 and we actually lost those games. Not sure if it was him or CBN or a combo of both but his passing stats were not good. We won’t miss his passing or lack thereof. What we will miss is his “explosive” plays that he would have a knack of making at times when he wanted to use his athletic abilities. Offense was pretty decent for most of the season. The defense is what was atrocious.
Well, well, well, we can file this in the pleasant news folder for the near future.
https://hailfloridahail.com/2023/06/28/florida-football-recruiting-family-ties-gators-harlem-berry/
https://hailfloridahail.com/2023/06/28/florida-football-recruiting-family-ties-gators-harlem-berry/
Defense has been atrocious for almost 10 years now. Recruiting is coming nicely so defense should be upticking starting this season.
Napier is actually outstanding calling the run game. Seriously, we had one of the nation’s best run games (I know we had some impressive stats but I’m way too lit to go try and look it up right now) and that’s with AR not being particularly accurate in the passing game and really struggling with play action. I think we need to see Billy able to actually have his entire playbook before we make that call, because his running game design is as innovative and impressive as anyone in the country. So I would argue just based off that one season at UF he absolutely brings an edge in the run game. I’d like to see what he can do with a QB who does what his offense needs. That’s why I’m kind kf looking forward to mertz. I really feel like a game manager who doesn’t turn the ball over and just takes what the defense gives him will actually get some really favorable matchups if we can run play action.
BHG Stadium Upgrades vs NIL$$$
"UAA-62 Ben Hill Griffin Stadium Facility Upgrades project" was initially listed on Florida's facilities website.
The same boosters who are funding NIL$$$ will be asked to dig deep to fund the BHG Stadium renovations.
SCOTT STRICKLIN needs a UF legacy & he will get it even if other projects wither on the vine.
Unless you are in Fever's financial position with boatloads of $$$ to toss around - I definitely am not -
I see a huge conflict between BHG Renovations & NIL$$$ contributions.
ANOTHER
Serious conflict -
IMO, there will be NO MONEY to buy out CBN - no matter what his record is !
we will be lucky to pay his yearly salary.
So all this TALK about CBN's W-L record needing to improve to some specified level or how some UF coach won this many games in year 3 or 4 -
DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE !
Frankly, I'm glad
We still have some rough years ahead of us in CFB
BUT
We are getting better & changing horses in midstream doesn't work !
Everyone talks about how freaking wonderful Kirby Smart & UGA are.
If all you look at are on the field results, that's true.
BUT
What about off the field ?
Perhaps you should READ Gator Gray's thread -
All is not well in Athens
https://florida.forums.rivals.com/threads/all-is-not-well-in-athens.123933/#post-2598398
Where will Kirby & UGA be shortly ?
BHG Stadium
UAA has completed a study for stadium facility upgrades. The upgrades include seating bowl upgrades such as lower bowl chairbacks, ADA upgrades including aisle widening and handrails, bench seat width adjustments, scoreboard upgrades, and east and south concourse upgrades. Evaluation for potential South Endzone improvements of a Club area and/or Loge Boxes are to be studied.
https://facilities.ufl.edu/projects/current-projects/project/
Financial estimates for the project begin at approximately $400 million, according to the UAA's release, and it's looking to the Florida faithful to turn the potential renovations into a reality.
The Gators will look to utilize a financial model "similar to its previous Gator facility projects with an aggressive fundraising campaign to anchor the funding efforts."
Where will all the necessary money come from ?
The search for an architect begins in July, with a formal selection process coordinated with UF's Campus Planning, Design and Construction Office. A timeline for the project's completion is unknown.
https://247sports.com/college/flori...ations-project-ben-hill-griffin-ga-212380384/
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Older stadiums in need of updating anything
become subject to current ADA Requirements which include new ramps at a certain grade, with more width and handrails. As long as you didn’t touch a thing you could grandfather in the existing features, but even new sinks and toilets in the bathrooms created a need to comply with the ADA guidelines.
All you need is money. Lots of it. 💰😵💫
become subject to current ADA Requirements which include new ramps at a certain grade, with more width and handrails. As long as you didn’t touch a thing you could grandfather in the existing features, but even new sinks and toilets in the bathrooms created a need to comply with the ADA guidelines.
All you need is money. Lots of it. 💰😵💫
Mom,
You're correct. UAA has listed exactly what you posted in regard to ADA MANDATED upgrades -
"UAA has completed a study for stadium facility upgrades. The upgrades include seating bowl upgrades such as lower bowl chairbacks, ADA upgrades including aisle widening and handrails, bench seat width adjustments, scoreboard upgrades, and east and south concourse upgrades. Evaluation for potential South Endzone improvements of a Club area and/or Loge Boxes are to be studied."
https://facilities.ufl.edu/projects/current-projects/planning-projects/
Remember when we used to stand the whole game and nobody gave a sh!t about chairbacks and we just made a lot of noise and won a lot of games?
sadgator misses that…
sadgator misses that…
I never realized a 6-8, 350 lb OT could be so elusive.
CBN/UF has yet to capture a 5* OT. Close but no cigar seems to be the best we can do right now.
We have commits from Marcus Mascoll & MIKE WILLIAMS & I think they will be good players, but the Crème de la crème continues to elude us.
Hoping we will catch one or two before long.
CBN/UF has yet to capture a 5* OT. Close but no cigar seems to be the best we can do right now.
We have commits from Marcus Mascoll & MIKE WILLIAMS & I think they will be good players, but the Crème de la crème continues to elude us.
Hoping we will catch one or two before long.
I sit in the club at fsu games....nothing but oldies around me so usually no standing as I sit in the shade and enjoy my drinks (non alcoholic, obviously). Elevator ride to the top of the stadium so I don't have to walk up stairs, unlimited food and best of all.... no poors. The sweaty ones are all down in the heat smelling and what not. I toss Nuggets down from time to time as they cheer when I throw them down. Peasant life is tough
Sadly in 2000, I just missed being able to leave at halftime and walk over to the Purple Porpoise to pound some drinks....I heard the stories but alas by my arrival in the G-ville their was a no re-entry in force, ugh, haha.
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I sit in the Varsity Club most of the time although I also have tickets outside and enjoy it when the weather cools down.
So us Gators are only blessed with the presence of the hoity toity Noles here? You and FSUtitle#'s find it more to your liking here with us cut above classy Gators than over with the low rent Nolies, I take it.
Yes, a certain amount of the proletariat must be let in the stadiums so as to not have an unsightly drunken riot outside the gates come game time. When you say nuggets, I hope it's not top shelf you part with. Chic FIL A for those that play I like to say and frozen Members Mark for those from the park I remark.
It's the ones they pass out like hot cakes at the game. I let them get cold before I toss them down though.
I think you may be disappointed if you are expecting Mertz to do much.
Fever,
After Mertz & Miller bomb - we will still have Max Brown & the two walk-ons at QB - no worries !
P.S.
You do realize that with the $400 MM+++ BHG Stadium Upgrade that any chance of a CBN Buyout - if he fails to meet your W-L standards -
HAS BEEN CANCELED !
Exqueeze Me? 💰So us Gators are only blessed with the presence of the hoity toity Noles here? You and FSUtitle#'s find it more to your liking here with us cut above classy Gators than over with the low rent Nolies, I take it.
Nonsense - we heard all that with the prior coaches about buyouts but if our big boosters have upped the NIL game to give us top 6 high school classes he will probably make it if he can correct the QB situation in 2024 - unless Mertz shocks everyone with his play.
I’m more than fine with the big time Stadium upgrades as long as it doesn’t take away too much from our NIL efforts as well. But boosters do prefer to put more money into facilities and these type of things rather than basically “buying” players that are only there 3-4 years and then likely to never be heard from again.
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