Keep in our "money guys" are new and I think that's the difference. The last guy heading up our NIL had some major personal issues (drinking) and it spilled over.I may have to start giving our money guys more credit. FSU fans are crying that we have upped our NIL game this class and it isnt fair. If that is true we can recruit with anyone being here in FL.
That whole Ruiz-UF thing, this time last year was really just bad timing. They were killing it and super aggressive while we had an alcoholic, who was currently using running NIL lol. Looks like we've righted the ship though.Fever,
Doubt that the money John Ruiz gave out for NIL is the whole or even the major reason behind his financial problems.
You don't give out the entire NIL amount at one time.
Wonder if he will continue to pay out NIL$$$ to players currently at Da U ?
If he defaults, will they transfer ?
I'm sure Ruiz has fraudulently tucked away a whole bunch of money in his other, hidden, pockets & will not starve or go homeless.
Best part of this -
Ruiz was an As* ho*le & deserved it
Although
he did us a huge favor & got rid of Rashada
Without him to stir things up, I'm hoping the stupid NIL$$$ thrown about in State of Florida will decline.
They are both a bit short -
BUT
We could probably use either or both of these -I prefer Mauigoa - the Florida/IMG guy.
Francis Mauigoa
IMG Academy(Bradenton)
OT - 6-5.5 - 326
Samson Okunlola
Thayer Academy(Brockton)
OT - 6-5 - 305
Heitner was feeding stuff to Ruiz from our coaches and staff. We’ve since cut off Heitner so now Miami and Ruiz don.t know the UF recruiting board and have no inside knowledge of what we are doing, etc. when it comes to recruiting and our NIL packages etc.That whole Ruiz-UF thing, this time last year was really just bad timing. They were killing it and super aggressive while we had an alcoholic, who was currently using running NIL lol. Looks like we've righted the ship though.
Didn't know that part - thanks!! Makes sense.Heitner was feeding stuff to Ruiz from our coaches and staff. We’ve since cut off Heitner so now Miami and Ruiz don.t know the UF recruiting board and have no inside knowledge of what we are doing, etc. when it comes to recruiting and our NIL packages etc.
That whole Ruiz-UF thing, this time last year was really just bad timing. They were killing it and super aggressive while we had an alcoholic, who was currently using running NIL lol. Looks like we've righted the ship though.
A few Canes fans are making it known to their fellow fans Mario is an idiot for leaving Oregon to come back to rented stadium, garbage facilities as well as their biggest supporter who is on the verge of bankruptcy. Mario left Phil Knight for Ruiz? Not sure if Miami even got another big donation from their most famous alumnus, Dwayne Johnson(The Rock).If Ruiz is not shelling out the cash he was last class they are screwed as Miami doesnt have much pull with these kids anymore like years ago.
I hope the rumors our people have got a little more motivated with NIL are true as there is no reason we cant recruit real close to GA and Bama if that is true.
Fever,If Ruiz is not shelling out the cash he was last class they are screwed as Miami doesnt have much pull with these kids anymore like years ago.
I hope the rumors our people have got a little more motivated with NIL are true as there is no reason we cant recruit real close to GA and Bama if that is true.
Fever,
If he doesn't follow through on the NIL$$$ (Contracts ?) he committed to for this year's Canes class what do you think will happen ?
If Ruiz goes under (only on paper as he will have tucked away a bundle in his offshore accounts) & the recruiting class he bought the Canes falls apart -
He is a bit shorter than CBN prefers,
BUT
I, being a Great Gator have $2 maybe $3 bucks that I could contribute if Mauigoa - the Florida/IMG guy gets Happy Feet & wants to come to Gainesville.
Francis Mauigoa
IMG Academy(Bradenton)
OT - 6-5.5 - 326
This is true from what I've heard. Ruiz is just the "public face" but I think there are 2 or 3 other guys who donate just as much.The Mas brothers are helping out Miami as well. It is isn’t just Ruiz. Ruiz is just the one who likes to draw attention to himself and thinks it’s all about him.
Numbers,This is true from what I've heard. Ruiz is just the "public face" but I think there are 2 or 3 other guys who donate just as much.
I wonder if he's related to Gators DE Bobby McCray who was playing back when I was in college 20 years ago?Know this is somewhat boring, but a necessary precursor -
A Hat on His table
Gators make top 5 for top-100 prospect LJ McCray
Top-100 prospect LJ McCray, a 4-star defensive lineman from Daytona Beach (Fla.) Mainland, released his top five Friday and not surprisingly the Florida Gators made the cut.
Also on his list: Auburn, Florida State, Georgia and Miami.
McCray, listed at 6-foot-6.5, 260 pounds, is the No. 13 defensive lineman and No. 89 overall recruit nationally according to On3.
Has solid length with a wing-span over 6-foot-9 along with a 10.5-inch hand. Showed his top end speed in the combine setting, running an electronically-timed 4.98 second 40-yard dash at Under Armour’s Orlando camp.
https://www.on3.com/teams/florida-gators/news/gators-make-top-5-for-top-100-prospect-lj-mccray/
Numbers,
Maybe they will all learns from Ruiz's financial problems (NASDAQ about to delist him) & slow things down - stop using NIL$$$ as a recruiting tool & save it for players already on the team.
In My Dreams - Right ? That ship has already sailed !
If Ruiz unable to pay NASDAQ Bills & unable to pay contracts with Canes' Recruits, Wonder if Mas brothers will step us & clean things up ?
OR
Are they all pooling money into some sort of collective & if one Booster drops out it will simply be the "Next Man Up" type of thing ?
Likely last years' recruits are taken care of thenI believe it's a "pool" of money that pays the recruits, from what I understand, Ruiz is about 20% to 25% of the pool.
Rather than having the collective shoot in the dark, Makes sense for the School/HC, to tell the collective who they really needIt's good that all 3 Florida schools have good collectives now that can communicate with the schools (new Florida law). I think that has helped UF and UM. Our coaches are too dumb to take advantage.
Good to see that some sort of Market Equity showing upI know one of the guys who helps with "the battles end" which is our football collective. He basically told me there is a "market value" for each position. You want a top WR, that's 125k. Top QB, close to 750k. Most schools offer roughly the same amount but as he said, if a school gets "desperate" enough like UM and Texas did last cycle, they will over pay for kids. He said it doesn't happen as frequently as you think but noted those 2 schools as 2 that he dealt with recruits and saw the "price point" of each school as being double what market value is. He knows the guy who runs it for UF as well and said he's good and understands the game unlike the last idiot you guys had.
Your last statement that the money was the same but the personal touch made the difference gives me some hope that NIL will settle down.I straight up asked him about Nasir and a few others who he had offered and UF offered, he said it was roughly the same offer (which is common among the top schools) but the kids just liked UFs staff better.
Nope I don’t think soI wonder if he's related to Gators DE Bobby McCray who was playing back when I was in college 20 years ago?
I believe it's a "pool" of money that pays the recruits, from what I understand, Ruiz is about 20% to 25% of the pool. It's good that all 3 Florida schools have good collectives now that can communicate with the schools (new Florida law). I think that has helped UF and UM. Our coaches are too dumb to take advantage.
I know one of the guys who helps with "the battles end" which is our football collective. He basically told me there is a "market value" for each position. You want a top WR, that's 125k. Top QB, close to 750k. Most schools offer roughly the same amount but as he said, if a school gets "desperate" enough like UM and Texas did last cycle, they will over pay for kids. He said it doesn't happen as frequently as you think but noted those 2 schools as 2 that he dealt with recruits and saw the "price point" of each school as being double what market value is. He knows the guy who runs it for UF as well and said he's good and understands the game unlike the last idiot you guys had.
I straight up asked him about Nasir and a few others who he had offered and UF offered, he said it was roughly the same offer (which is common among the top schools) but the kids just liked UFs staff better.
Fever,Glad to hear that is what UF is doing now. We should be top 6 at least most years now if that keeps up.
Jeremiah Smith After OV to Canes
Miami Commit Robinson and tOSU Commit Smith are the only WRs taking their official visits with Miami this weekend. This is the final weekend of official visits in June. A dead period for official visits commences after this weekend.
Rivals ranks the 2024 Miami class 27th nationally.
Without Ruiz, Mario Cristobal & Canes underwhelming in this year's recruiting.
Smith had eight unofficial visits to Miami before this weekend. The nine visits in total to Miami are the most Smith has taken.
Ohio State with six total visits is second. Smith took his official visit to Ohio State the weekend of June 2.
Florida and Georgia have also hosted Smith on official visits.
Miami has been searching for an elite skill position player since Mario Cristobal was hired in December 2021.
Offensive tackles Francis Mauigoa and Samson Okunlola (thanks to Ruiz) are the only five-star signees with Miami in the two signing classes under Cristobal. Miami does not have a five-star commitment in the 2024 class.
FWIW, unless he commits to Miami this weekend (unlikely as Smith is an experienced recruit & knows how to gracefully evade the hard sell) I think he sticks with tOSU.
IMO, CBN knows this, which is why he is heavily pursuing other WRs.
3* OT Mike Williams, a UF commit, also took an OV to the Cane.
https://caneswarning.com/2023/06/23...-football-official-visit-top-10-this-weekend/
Farrell's 5 Most Disappointing Power Programs
https://mikefarrellsports.com/college/farrells-most-disappointing-power-programs
Numbers,I think Miami is 5th in his recruitment. He doesn't seem to like them very much but they are the home team so he's giving them a shot.
I think Ohio state is first and I think k he sticks there as long as Hartline is there.
2nd is probably UGA or UF. I think he likes both of them.
Then probably fsu then Miami
Numbers,List is pretty on point. I like VA tech and Auburn there. I also agree with Miami and Texas.
I don't think UF is 3rd tbh. They have had some disappointing seasons but no where near the level of Miami. Miami hasn't even won the ACC lol
Numbers,
Way to suck up, on a Gator board !
LOL
Numbers,Ha! I genuinely want the Gators to do well except for when they play fsu. I have no hate towards the Gators. I just don't think they are Miami and Texas level disappointing