Are there Miami fans who still believe there's a coach who will run the program the way Jimmy and Dennis ran it?
Florida - Miami matchup
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No, mostly because they no longer have Luther Campbell and former scUM NFL players 'under the table' money to buy players or to give injured opponent player bonu$ awards...
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I don't know, Manny Diaz looks the type who'd bring back the thug culture. He's a Nole homer, is he not?No, mostly because they no long have Luther Campbell and former scUM NFL players 'under the table' money to buy players or to give injured opponent player bonu$ awards...
The scUM thug atmosphere has never left the place, it's just that the dirty $$$ finally dried up when the 'Death Penalty' almost got them...
The scUM thug atmosphere has never left the place, it's just that the dirty $$$ finally dried up when the 'Death Penalty' almost got them...
Miami thugs and dirty money are just pair bonded.. I would argue Butch Davis was the best combination of good/clean as they have had, but I don't know how much access that ponzi scheming Shapiro had during that time.. In my lifetime, that 2000-2003 Miami Hurricanes squad was the most talented I have ever seen.
Yep 2000 - 2002. The 2003 team had a talent dropoff for sure. 2001 was probably one of the best teams ever.
Florida is going to beat the life out of Miami. I hate those clowns with all my heart. They've never even won the Acc but they will tell you they are back every damn year.
The position advantage, player recruit ranking comparisons, for UF vs scUM
3 UF - QB - RB - CB
2 scUM - TE - LB
Even on the other 4 - WR - OL - DL - S
(personally, iG would also put WR under UF's advantage banner)
However, the biggest difference being UF's advantage in player experience of Jr's and Sr's. The scUM will be playing with a younger, less experience team, plus a new HC.
This is the opinion of (David Lake) at 247, so take it with a grain of salt....
https://247sports.com/college/flori...-at-the-talent-between-Miami-and-UF-132872251
3 UF - QB - RB - CB
2 scUM - TE - LB
Even on the other 4 - WR - OL - DL - S
(personally, iG would also put WR under UF's advantage banner)
However, the biggest difference being UF's advantage in player experience of Jr's and Sr's. The scUM will be playing with a younger, less experience team, plus a new HC.
This is the opinion of (David Lake) at 247, so take it with a grain of salt....
https://247sports.com/college/flori...-at-the-talent-between-Miami-and-UF-132872251
sadgator decided to bail. The secondary market tickets are so expensive, sadgator simply can’t stomach the idea of paying that much to go to a regular season game...
Because sadgator won’t be there, Florida will probably win now...
Because sadgator won’t be there, Florida will probably win now...
For a moment I thought they were the dudes who put a noose around Jussie Smollett's neck and poured bleach on him. You know, the white guys?
Current results of Canes offseason weightlifting program.
NOW,,, if they just played these games on paper using the available stats with expert opinions.... Using the S&P+ metrics popularized over the years, Miami's win probability against Florida is just 27%, while Florida State's is even lower at 17%.
Should the UAA be asking FSU where they had those 'State Championship Rings' produced???
https://247sports.com/college/flori...lities-make-UF-favorites-vs-UM-FSU-133180359/
Note: Auburn xfer to the scUM,in Jan, RB Asa Martin, is back in the portal. A former 4-star recruit out of Austin High School in Decatur, Ala., Martin was ranked as the nation’s #202 overall prospect and #9 RB in the 2018 class, according to the 247Sports Composite. He was also the #6 player in the state of Alabama. He was named the Alabama 'Mr. Football' after his 2017 Sr. season.
Should the UAA be asking FSU where they had those 'State Championship Rings' produced???
https://247sports.com/college/flori...lities-make-UF-favorites-vs-UM-FSU-133180359/
Note: Auburn xfer to the scUM,in Jan, RB Asa Martin, is back in the portal. A former 4-star recruit out of Austin High School in Decatur, Ala., Martin was ranked as the nation’s #202 overall prospect and #9 RB in the 2018 class, according to the 247Sports Composite. He was also the #6 player in the state of Alabama. He was named the Alabama 'Mr. Football' after his 2017 Sr. season.
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Is that a new guy that's not listed on their roster or recruiting class? If not,,, WTF?
Back on Nov 4, 2018....
Miami has struggled all season with punting. Zach Feagles and Jack Spicer have combined to average just 38.3 yards per punt which ranks 13th in the Atlantic Coast Conference and No. 114 nationally.
City College of San Francisco punter Louis Hedley gave a verbal pledge to the Hurricanes on Sunday after landing an offer from the scUM special teams coordinator.
He averaged 38.6 yards a punt as a freshman. -- Should move them up to 110 at least.
WoW! That Juco punter is certainly a huge step up in punting talent...
https://247sports.com/Article/Break...nter-Louis-Hedley-commits-to-Miami-124267774/
Back on Nov 4, 2018....
Miami has struggled all season with punting. Zach Feagles and Jack Spicer have combined to average just 38.3 yards per punt which ranks 13th in the Atlantic Coast Conference and No. 114 nationally.
City College of San Francisco punter Louis Hedley gave a verbal pledge to the Hurricanes on Sunday after landing an offer from the scUM special teams coordinator.
He averaged 38.6 yards a punt as a freshman. -- Should move them up to 110 at least.
WoW! That Juco punter is certainly a huge step up in punting talent...
https://247sports.com/Article/Break...nter-Louis-Hedley-commits-to-Miami-124267774/
Is that a new guy that's not listed on their roster or recruiting class? If not,,, WTF?
Back on Nov 4, 2018....
Miami has struggled all season with punting. Zach Feagles and Jack Spicer have combined to average just 38.3 yards per punt which ranks 13th in the Atlantic Coast Conference and No. 114 nationally.
City College of San Francisco punter Louis Hedley gave a verbal pledge to the Hurricanes on Sunday after landing an offer from the scUM special teams coordinator.
He averaged 38.6 yards a punt as a freshman. -- Should move them up to 110 at least.
WoW! That Juco punter is certainly a huge step up in punting talent...
https://247sports.com/Article/Break...nter-Louis-Hedley-commits-to-Miami-124267774/
Yep he doesn't have that big of a leg.
Not even counting our rsSr Punter Tommy Townsend, 2018 45.4 Ave, with a 71 yarder vs LSU, but our Soph place kicker is a better punter than anyone on the scUM's roster....
PK / P Evan McPherson:- 2018 Fr season: 50/50 X-Pts, 17/19 FG's (actually 18/19)
He kicked and punted for Fort Payne HS for 4 seasons... During his senior season, he made a 60-yard field goal, which was one yard shy of the Ala HS state record. In addition, he recorded an 84-yard punt in a game, which was also one yard shy of the state record... He played in the UA-AA Game where he was 100%, plus he successfully executed an on sides kick.
I'd put UF up for the best kicker-combo in the nation for 2019.
PK / P Evan McPherson:- 2018 Fr season: 50/50 X-Pts, 17/19 FG's (actually 18/19)
He kicked and punted for Fort Payne HS for 4 seasons... During his senior season, he made a 60-yard field goal, which was one yard shy of the Ala HS state record. In addition, he recorded an 84-yard punt in a game, which was also one yard shy of the state record... He played in the UA-AA Game where he was 100%, plus he successfully executed an on sides kick.
I'd put UF up for the best kicker-combo in the nation for 2019.
QB Feleipe' Franks was the guy who helped Florida's offense dominate the last 4 games of 2018. He completed 65% of his passes with 8 TDs to ZERO INTs (plus 54 Yds/Gm rushing with a 50 percent rushing success rate) as Florida averaged 45 Pts/Gm against SCa, Ida, FSU and Mich. If that is the Franks who shows up in 2019, then the Gators could put a serious scare into UGly for the SEC East race.
That ESPN's analysis, was done by the always-terrific Bill Connelly (formerly of SBNation and the originator of the S&P+ metrics)
IF the QB and the OL can solidify their play quickly enough, then the sky's the limit for the 2019 Gators. - iG -- (nothing new there, we all pretty much agree on those points)
However, an extra point of impact imo, is how well the TE's and RB's can help cover any weakness in the new OL combinations. It can't be over-stated, the blocking of the RB's and TE's will be a huge key in the success of the OL / offense.
Gator's Vegas over-under is 9 wins. Favored in all but 2 away games to higher ranked opponents, @ LSU -4.5 Pts, and the WLOCP. UGly -3.5 Pts. Silver-Lining - That's only a couple of TD's short of an undefeated season...
Perhaps the most telling thing about Florida's over/under regular season win total? Only two teams in the SEC have higher lines. Georgia is at 11 wins and Alabama is at 11.5. That's a sign of the major progress Florida has made under Mullen so far.
CAESARS PALACE RACE & SPORTS BOOK'S 2019 REGULAR-SEASON WIN TOTALS:
Alabama: 11.5 -- SEC-C game.
Georgia: 11 - WLOCP -3.5
FLORIDA: 9
LSU: 9 - @ Death Valley -4.5
Auburn: 8 - Homecoming
Missouri: 8 - @ Columbia
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Texas A&M: 7.5
Mississippi State: 7.5
Tennessee: 6.5
Kentucky: 6.5
@ South Carolina: 5.5
Arkansas: 5.5
Vanderbilt: 5
Ole Miss: 4.5
To win out and make the CFP, UF needs to beat the Top 5 teams in the SEC, with only one of them in the SWAMP.
That ESPN's analysis, was done by the always-terrific Bill Connelly (formerly of SBNation and the originator of the S&P+ metrics)
IF the QB and the OL can solidify their play quickly enough, then the sky's the limit for the 2019 Gators. - iG -- (nothing new there, we all pretty much agree on those points)
However, an extra point of impact imo, is how well the TE's and RB's can help cover any weakness in the new OL combinations. It can't be over-stated, the blocking of the RB's and TE's will be a huge key in the success of the OL / offense.
Gator's Vegas over-under is 9 wins. Favored in all but 2 away games to higher ranked opponents, @ LSU -4.5 Pts, and the WLOCP. UGly -3.5 Pts. Silver-Lining - That's only a couple of TD's short of an undefeated season...
Perhaps the most telling thing about Florida's over/under regular season win total? Only two teams in the SEC have higher lines. Georgia is at 11 wins and Alabama is at 11.5. That's a sign of the major progress Florida has made under Mullen so far.
CAESARS PALACE RACE & SPORTS BOOK'S 2019 REGULAR-SEASON WIN TOTALS:
Alabama: 11.5 -- SEC-C game.
Georgia: 11 - WLOCP -3.5
FLORIDA: 9
LSU: 9 - @ Death Valley -4.5
Auburn: 8 - Homecoming
Missouri: 8 - @ Columbia
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Texas A&M: 7.5
Mississippi State: 7.5
Tennessee: 6.5
Kentucky: 6.5
@ South Carolina: 5.5
Arkansas: 5.5
Vanderbilt: 5
Ole Miss: 4.5
To win out and make the CFP, UF needs to beat the Top 5 teams in the SEC, with only one of them in the SWAMP.
QB Feleipe' Franks was the guy who helped Florida's offense dominate the last 4 games of 2018. He completed 65% of his passes with 8 TDs to ZERO INTs (plus 54 Yds/Gm rushing with a 50 percent rushing success rate) as Florida averaged 45 Pts/Gm against SCa, Ida, FSU and Mich. If that is the Franks who shows up in 2019, then the Gators could put a serious scare into UGly for the SEC East race.
That ESPN's analysis, was done by the always-terrific Bill Connelly (formerly of SBNation and the originator of the S&P+ metrics)
IF the QB and the OL can solidify their play quickly enough, then the sky's the limit for the 2019 Gators. - iG -- (nothing new there, we all pretty much agree on those points)
However, an extra point of impact imo, is how well the TE's and RB's can help cover any weakness in the new OL combinations. It can't be over-stated, the blocking of the RB's and TE's will be a huge key in the success of the OL / offense.
Gator's Vegas over-under is 9 wins. Favored in all but 2 away games to higher ranked opponents, @ LSU -4.5 Pts, and the WLOCP. UGly -3.5 Pts. Silver-Lining - That's only a couple of TD's short of an undefeated season...
Perhaps the most telling thing about Florida's over/under regular season win total? Only two teams in the SEC have higher lines. Georgia is at 11 wins and Alabama is at 11.5. That's a sign of the major progress Florida has made under Mullen so far.
CAESARS PALACE RACE & SPORTS BOOK'S 2019 REGULAR-SEASON WIN TOTALS:
Alabama: 11.5 -- SEC-C game.
Georgia: 11 - WLOCP -3.5
FLORIDA: 9
LSU: 9 - @ Death Valley -4.5
Auburn: 8 - Homecoming
Missouri: 8 - @ Columbia
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Texas A&M: 7.5
Mississippi State: 7.5
Tennessee: 6.5
Kentucky: 6.5
@ South Carolina: 5.5
Arkansas: 5.5
Vanderbilt: 5
Ole Miss: 4.5
To win out and make the CFP, UF needs to beat the Top 5 teams in the SEC, with only one of them in the SWAMP.
9 wins is probably a good number for Vegas. 10 - 2 with a win over Georgia might win the East. That would be the worst we could do probably as I don't see Georgia losing more than 2 regular season SEC games.
Miami fans think this is why they will beat us this season and the main reason they lost all those games last season.
Is this supposed to impress anyone? Looks like a 60 yard boot, but since they line up 15 yards back, it's really only a 45 yarder. Let him kick like that to us, we will be running them back for TD's.
QB Feleipe' Franks was the guy who helped Florida's offense dominate the last 4 games of 2018. He completed 65% of his passes with 8 TDs to ZERO INTs (plus 54 Yds/Gm rushing with a 50 percent rushing success rate) as Florida averaged 45 Pts/Gm against SCa, Ida, FSU and Mich. If that is the Franks who shows up in 2019, then the Gators could put a serious scare into UGly for the SEC East race.
That ESPN's analysis, was done by the always-terrific Bill Connelly (formerly of SBNation and the originator of the S&P+ metrics)
IF the QB and the OL can solidify their play quickly enough, then the sky's the limit for the 2019 Gators. - iG -- (nothing new there, we all pretty much agree on those points)
However, an extra point of impact imo, is how well the TE's and RB's can help cover any weakness in the new OL combinations. It can't be over-stated, the blocking of the RB's and TE's will be a huge key in the success of the OL / offense.
Gator's Vegas over-under is 9 wins. Favored in all but 2 away games to higher ranked opponents, @ LSU -4.5 Pts, and the WLOCP. UGly -3.5 Pts. Silver-Lining - That's only a couple of TD's short of an undefeated season...
Perhaps the most telling thing about Florida's over/under regular season win total? Only two teams in the SEC have higher lines. Georgia is at 11 wins and Alabama is at 11.5. That's a sign of the major progress Florida has made under Mullen so far.
CAESARS PALACE RACE & SPORTS BOOK'S 2019 REGULAR-SEASON WIN TOTALS:
Alabama: 11.5 -- SEC-C game.
Georgia: 11 - WLOCP -3.5
FLORIDA: 9
LSU: 9 - @ Death Valley -4.5
Auburn: 8 - Homecoming
Missouri: 8 - @ Columbia
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Texas A&M: 7.5
Mississippi State: 7.5
Tennessee: 6.5
Kentucky: 6.5
@ South Carolina: 5.5
Arkansas: 5.5
Vanderbilt: 5
Ole Miss: 4.5
To win out and make the CFP, UF needs to beat the Top 5 teams in the SEC, with only one of them in the SWAMP.
To win out and make the CFP, UF needs to beat the Top 5 teams in the SEC, with only one of them in the SWAMP.
To win out and make the CFP, UF needs to beat the Top 5 teams in the SEC, with only one of them in the SWAMP.
Meanwhile you have to beat at most 2 other teams ranked in the preseason. The Big 12 is trash.
To win out and make the CFP, UF needs to beat the Top 5 teams in the SEC, with only one of them in the SWAMP.
CFP constant Choker Results...
L - 2018 Chokers 34 - 45 Bama --- with yet another Heisman pretender
L - 2017 Chokers 48 - 54 UGly --- with another Heisman pretender
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W - 2016 11-2 Chokers 35 - 19 Allbarn 8-5 (the barn also lost to 8-5 UG & 8-5 aTm)
At least an 11-2 BIG-12-10-??-Chump can still beat the occasional 5 loss SEC team...
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L - 2015 Chokers 17 - 37 Clemp's-son
L - 2014 Chokers 6 - 40 Clemp's-son
L - 2013 Chokers 31 - 45 Bama
L - 2012 Chokers 13 - 41 aTm - (aTm's 1st year in SEC)
So, Han says,,,, 'Laugh it up dust-ball'
Like always,,, and it's the Big12/10/whatever... The D1's has-been league that the corrupt NCAA gifted a Conf Championship game to, without then having the required 12 Conf. teams...
Note: When the SEC wanted to begin a Conf. Championship game, the NCAA told the SEC that it was REQUIRED for the Conf. to have 12 teams first. I wonder who the Chokers and short-horns paid off to get that REQUIREMENT changed for them...
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CFP constant Choker Results...
L - 2018 Chokers 34 - 45 Bama --- with yet another Heisman pretender
L - 2017 Chokers 48 - 54 UGly --- with another Heisman pretender
-----
W - 2016 11-2 Chokers 35 - 19 Allbarn 8-5 (the barn also lost to 8-5 UG & 8-5 aTm)
At least an 11-2 BIG-12-10-??-Chump can still beat the occasional 5 loss SEC team...
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L - 2015 Chokers 17 - 37 Clemp's-son
L - 2014 Chokers 6 - 40 Clemp's-son
L - 2013 Chokers 31 - 45 Bama
L - 2012 Chokers 13 - 41 aTm - (aTm's 1st year in SEC)
So, Han says,,,, 'Laugh it up dust-ball'
Like always,,, and it's the Big12/10/whatever... The D1's has-been league that the corrupt NCAA gifted a Conf Championship game to, without then having the required 12 Conf. teams...
Note: When the SEC wanted to begin a Conf. Championship game, the NCAA told the SEC that it was REQUIRED for the Conf. to have 12 teams first. I wonder who the Chokers and short-horns paid off to get that REQUIREMENT changed for them...
It was the Texas oil money most likely. Same way their conference fell apart because those selfish assholes wanted their own tv network that they’d get to keep all the profits from.
Steele also predicted Missouri (who is ineligible for a bowl) for the 2019 (season) Music City Bowl and forgot to include the Capital One (Citrus) Bowl predictions...
https://kentuckysportsradio.com/football-2/phil-steeles-bowl-predictions-are-something/
That being said...it is a good thing we have a week off and then an easy game against UT Martin on our schedule after Miami, because it is going to take people like 2 or 3 weeks to recover and accept/process the result when we get beat...
I think we win but I don't think this will be the walk in the park some people seem to think it will be unless the defense creates a bunch of turnovers.
Should win,,,, but never any guarantees in rivalry games, especially bitter ones...
Ruination to the hated scUM thugs of Mi-Am-I...
Ruination to the hated scUM thugs of Mi-Am-I...
As I have said, Miami is a year behind us. New head coach and new coordinators, really almost an entire new staff, bringing different schemes. In game one the players will have the basics down but not much else. Add in the lack of success causing an issue with confidence, and you don't have a recipe for early wins.
If we had Miami at midseason, or heck, even game 4 on, I would feel entirely different. Look at the improvement UF made as the season went on. Miami will finish pretty strong, but I really do not see them being much of a challenge first game. Oh, they will keep it close for a half, they have a good bit of talent on defense, but once Mullen has seen their schemes and adjusted, things will go our way. Because they will only have practiced a few schemes in an effort to have a few things game ready. This is where the 20 hour week benefits us.
We keep thinking that because of the KY game but they beat some good teams and just had the bad loss against Tennessee. We actually looked the worst in the middle of the season against Missouri I would say.
Not sure if we can count on them not being ready to go. I doubt their offense is that good due to their O line however.
We can endlessly play the coming game in our heads, to the outcome that each expects....
Or we can just wait a month and watch what happens when the two teams meet on the field.
Well, I guess we could do both instead... (most likely)
Or we can just wait a month and watch what happens when the two teams meet on the field.
Well, I guess we could do both instead...
(most likely)
They will likely be as ready as they can be, but there simply won't have been time to implement the full playbook yet, on offense or defense. Also, their offense will have been playing largely against air as they work to get plays and timing down. Our defense is designed to disrupt, which is good. If we played passive, read & react style as other coaching regimes have had us do, we would be playing right into their hands, giving them a chance to run their plays properly. But this group is going to come out and put the pressure up to 10 right away. Will Miami have their plays memorized so well they can adapt on the fly? Call the proper audibles? I say they won't be ready enough for what we bring.
We better be ready for a lot of throws to the TEs and RBs based on that OCs past history. He ate our # 6 defense up with that style in 2016.
When Florida played Arkansas? Their offense took advantage of our 2016 garbage offense. Our only TD was a pick 6.
That offense plays right into Grantham's scheme.
How do you beat a very aggressive defense? You block and go over the top. If you only run screens and short curls the db's can double down the pressure. Long day for UM.
I think we are also overlooking the advantage of playing a week early. That is a week less of practice time for a team that needs every minute it can get to drill in these new schemes.`Telling you, everything lines up our way in that game.
They also rolled our defense with throws to a lot of non-WRs and some big runs.
