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I'm not sure if we have a choice of E-85 vs E10 here. Some places carry ethanol free but the price is even more ridiculous. I won't buy it, even for the boats.
I sometimes buy ethanol free for lawn equipment. It's always higher price than E-10. Most new cars since 2018 will run on E-15. I know of no E-15 in my region. Grandson told me when he lived in Fargo there was plenty of E-15. I've heard corn state Iowa has plenty of E-15 and E-85.

Merchants here tell me they hardly ever sell E-85. People I know with flex fuel vehicles say their vehicles guzzle E-85. Wife's flex fuel Jeep does. At 31 cents per gallon cheaper, Valero E-85 might make sense. 7-11 E-85 at 10 cents cheaper makes no sense.
 
Also, once they had to start leasing the land again, they just stopped issuing permits. You need both, a lease of the land and a permit to drill.
It's all a lie that BScuck is more than happy to perpetuate. BScuck claims Brandon has issued tons of new leases, most of them on lands likely void of oil. It's a shell game he happily likes to play on. We are onto their ruse.
 
I sometimes buy ethanol free for lawn equipment. It's always higher price than E-10. Most new cars since 2018 will run on E-15. I know of no E-15 in my region. Grandson told me when he lived in Fargo there was plenty of E-15. I've heard corn state Iowa has plenty of E-15 and E-85.

Merchants here tell me they hardly ever sell E-85. People I know with flex fuel vehicles say their vehicles guzzle E-85. Wife's flex fuel Jeep does. At 31 cents per gallon cheaper, Valero E-85 might make sense. 7-11 E-85 at 10 cents cheaper makes no sense.
To be honest I have no idea WTF they sell here now (other than ethanol free). Not sure they even post that at the pump. I have heard E-15 gets horrible mileage and is less efficient than E10 so much that it more than offsets the savings in price per gallon. That's what I hear anyway.
 
It's all a lie that BScuck is more than happy to perpetuate. BScuck claims Brandon has issued tons of new leases, most of them on lands likely void of oil. It's a shell game he happily likes to play on. We are onto their ruse.
What is glaringly evident. NavigatorII knows more about the US Oil & Gas Industry and economics 101 than BSC. How do we know? Both shout it to us with virtually every post they author.
 
You can blame the Renewable Fuel Standard (RFS) program for the E-85 / high-price E0 gasoline insanity. I don’t have time to fully explain it but it’s another wonderful government program whereby bureaucrats make political / economic decisions about our fuel supply.
And I bet a lobbyist somewhere got rich
 
It destroys points in marine engines as well.
I'll go out on a limb and say no it doesn't. I have a 4 stroke engine 25 hp motor on a small skiff I own. It's a 2002 engine I've owned since 2002. It's my creek creeper, 16 footer, it will run 27 mph top end but will run in 5 inches of water jacked up a little. It's not my charter boat, but it's my winter time back water baby. The thing about ethanol is it will eat up gaskets and hoses. It does not hurt engines whatsoever as long as your engine is not sitting idle for months with no use. Fuel filters will get rid of most of the demons, just keep them changed.
 
It's all a lie that BScuck is more than happy to perpetuate. BScuck claims Brandon has issued tons of new leases, most of them on lands likely void of oil. It's a shell game he happily likes to play on. We are onto their ruse.
He might be right about the leases, but if they do not also issue the permit for drilling, the leases mean nothing.
 
I'll go out on a limb and say no it doesn't. I have a 4 stroke engine 25 hp motor on a small skiff I own. It's a 2002 engine I've owned since 2002. It's my creek creeper, 16 footer, it will run 27 mph top end but will run in 5 inches of water jacked up a little. It's not my charter boat, but it's my winter time back water baby. The thing about ethanol is it will eat up gaskets and hoses. It does not hurt engines whatsoever as long as your engine is not sitting idle for months with no use. Fuel filters will get rid of most of the demons, just keep them changed.

Negative Effects of Ethanol in Gasoline
When fuel absorbs water and brings it into an engine, there is a chance that rust will form on the interior of the engine. For obvious reasons, this is bad for any piece of equipment. The particles that get into the gas from rust flakes will clog up the fuel filter sooner or later. These flakes can also damage the pistons, rings, seals, and any number of other components of the engine.

Ethanol increases gasoline vapor pressure, which may cause a vapor lock in the carburetor. This fuel starvation will prevent an engine from starting. This is an issue in higher altitudes and hot weather. Make sure to store gasoline with an ethanol mixture properly and to use it in a timely fashion.

Gasoline with ethanol decreases the life of the engine and its parts. The alcohol can cause engine seals to break down more quickly. Having a cleaning agent like this constantly in a small engine that was not engineered for this fuel mixture simply ages it at a faster rate.


Ethanol also burns hotter than regular gasoline which causes scorching.
 
No, if you need big oh truck stuff, then your phucked, until hydrogen trucks come out.

I drove my son to and from a travel tourney in cullman this weekend In the EV. After the first game, I walked back to the car to get my cooler. This family of 4 was standing next to my car and seemed to be in awe. They asked if it was mine and I said yes, and let me take y’all for a spin. They gladly accepted(The dad was sporting a trump 2024 shirt). I floored it a few times and they were laughing their butts off and having fun. They really appreciated it and said their next car would be an EV
Poor old Summers Eve

 
Negative Effects of Ethanol in Gasoline
When fuel absorbs water and brings it into an engine, there is a chance that rust will form on the interior of the engine. For obvious reasons, this is bad for any piece of equipment. The particles that get into the gas from rust flakes will clog up the fuel filter sooner or later. These flakes can also damage the pistons, rings, seals, and any number of other components of the engine.

Ethanol increases gasoline vapor pressure, which may cause a vapor lock in the carburetor. This fuel starvation will prevent an engine from starting. This is an issue in higher altitudes and hot weather. Make sure to store gasoline with an ethanol mixture properly and to use it in a timely fashion.

Gasoline with ethanol decreases the life of the engine and its parts. The alcohol can cause engine seals to break down more quickly. Having a cleaning agent like this constantly in a small engine that was not engineered for this fuel mixture simply ages it at a faster rate.


Ethanol also burns hotter than regular gasoline which causes scorching.
Here in MD, I beleive all gas has the ethanol added. It caused the engine in my old mower to seize, and it was only about 2.5 years old. Once I bought a new one, I also started adding STA-BIL Fuel Additive with the gas during the mowing season and then STA-BIL Storage for the winter months. Its supposedly negates the effect of the ethanol. Almost 4 years now and no problems.
 
Here in MD, I beleive all gas has the ethanol added. It caused the engine in my old mower to seize, and it was only about 2.5 years old. Once I bought a new one, I also started adding STA-BIL Fuel Additive with the gas during the mowing season and then STA-BIL Storage for the winter months. Its supposedly negates the effect of the ethanol. Almost 4 years now and no problems.
Also Sea Foam and/or Stabil added during slower months seems to help disperse the water accumulated and blow it out when restarting after a period of non use. I readily admit I don't understand the science behind this.
 
Negative Effects of Ethanol in Gasoline
When fuel absorbs water and brings it into an engine, there is a chance that rust will form on the interior of the engine. For obvious reasons, this is bad for any piece of equipment. The particles that get into the gas from rust flakes will clog up the fuel filter sooner or later. These flakes can also damage the pistons, rings, seals, and any number of other components of the engine.

Ethanol increases gasoline vapor pressure, which may cause a vapor lock in the carburetor. This fuel starvation will prevent an engine from starting. This is an issue in higher altitudes and hot weather. Make sure to store gasoline with an ethanol mixture properly and to use it in a timely fashion.

Gasoline with ethanol decreases the life of the engine and its parts. The alcohol can cause engine seals to break down more quickly. Having a cleaning agent like this constantly in a small engine that was not engineered for this fuel mixture simply ages it at a faster rate.


Ethanol also burns hotter than regular gasoline which causes scorching.
Pretty much what I’ve been led to believe as well.
Ethanol is bad for engines, it attracts water and damages internal parts that otherwise wouldn’t be damaged if you were to use non-ethanol gasolines.
Unfortunately, ethanol is an additive that is probably here to stay.
I’ve also heard that ethanol is added to help cut down the amount of gas used, not due to better mileage but the more ethanol that’s added to gasoline means the less gasoline thats used. It’s like putting bread or taters in soups or stews to help them go further and get more meals out of them.

Every pump here, and every pump I’ve ever filled up at for at least the last 25 years “contains less than 10% ethanol”, as is written on the pump stickers.
And I will NEVER put E85 in my truck or yard equipment, EVER !

I never used to use a gas additive for my yard equipment but now I won’t fill my 5 gallon can (that’s really NOT 5 gallons) w/o using an additive that to help stabilize the gas and compensate for the added ethanol.

And let’s be honest, ethanol is made from corn (for the most part), I wonder if the corn farmers are getting any extra money or incentives for their product as it relates to the fuel industry and various forms of political influence.
 
Also Sea Foam and/or Stabil added during slower months seems to help disperse the water accumulated and blow it out when restarting after a period of non use. I readily admit I don't understand the science behind this.

E10, unlike E0, absorbs water...up to half of 1% by volume. E0 absorbs virtually no water.

E10 doesn't absorb water from the air but when moisture collects inside fuel cans or on things like the wall of a fuel tank, E10 will absorb it while E0 will not.
 
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The Wall Street Journal reported this weekend on a four-day road trip from New Orleans to Chicago and back in an electric vehicle (EV) that ended up as a disaster — one that left the author grateful for her ordinary car, even at today’s high gas price.

long-distance travel by electric vehicle proved almost impossible, saving just $100 and costing hours. At several points, Wolfe recalled, the car nearly ran out of battery; they missed several appointments. They also had to take drastic steps to curb their use of power, such as unplugging their phones and turning down their windshield wipers.

She wrote: “Over four days, we spent $175 on charging. We estimated the equivalent cost for gas in a Kia Forte would have been $275, based on the AAA average national gas price for May 19. That $100 savings cost us many hours in waiting time.”

Wolfe also described conversations with fellow travelers: “The woman charging next to us describes a harrowing recent trip in her Volkswagen ID.4. Deborah Carrico, 65, had to be towed twice while driving between her Louisville, Ky., apartment and Boulder, Colo., where her daughter was getting married.” She noted that the woman had described feeling unsafe while charging at night, and that her family had urged her to trade in her electric car in favor of an old-fashioned gas model.


Wolfe concluded:

The following week, I fill up my Jetta at a local Shell station. Gas is up to $4.08 a gallon.
I inhale deeply. Fumes never smelled so sweet.
 
I’ve also heard that ethanol is added to help cut down the amount of gas used, not due to better mileage but the more ethanol that’s added to gasoline means the less gasoline thats used.

Absolutely correct, it's an additive to increase volume. E10 means you've created 10% more fuel by adding ethanol.

Ethanol actually decreases fuel mileage in most engines (maybe all, not certain). Newer engines are designed to tolerate E10 with filters and gaskets that are more resistant to it.
 
And let’s be honest, ethanol is made from corn (for the most part), I wonder if the corn farmers are getting any extra money or incentives for their product as it relates to the fuel industry and various forms of political influence.

They absolutely are and they have a huge lobby. The US government subsidizes its use.
 
Absolutely correct, it's an additive to increase volume. E10 means you've created 10% more fuel by adding ethanol.

Ethanol actually decreases fuel mileage in most engines (maybe all, not certain). Newer engines are designed to tolerate E10 with filters and gaskets that are more resistant to it.
There is nothing you can do to an older engine to make it resistant to the effects of ethanol. And believe me i've tried synthetic seals and gaskets, cutting new valve seats and replacing them with stainless steel, even titanium valves. it just burns too hot for older engines, and is a nightmare if you have a carb.
 
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Absolutely correct, it's an additive to increase volume. E10 means you've created 10% more fuel by adding ethanol.

Ethanol actually decreases fuel mileage in most engines (maybe all, not certain). Newer engines are designed to tolerate E10 with filters and gaskets that are more resistant to it.
Yep, more added ethanol means less gas which means a barrel of oil can go farther when it gets refined.
 
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Pretty much what I’ve been led to believe as well.
Ethanol is bad for engines, it attracts water and damages internal parts that otherwise wouldn’t be damaged if you were to use non-ethanol gasolines.
Unfortunately, ethanol is an additive that is probably here to stay.
I’ve also heard that ethanol is added to help cut down the amount of gas used, not due to better mileage but the more ethanol that’s added to gasoline means the less gasoline thats used. It’s like putting bread or taters in soups or stews to help them go further and get more meals out of them.

Every pump here, and every pump I’ve ever filled up at for at least the last 25 years “contains less than 10% ethanol”, as is written on the pump stickers.
And I will NEVER put E85 in my truck or yard equipment, EVER !

I never used to use a gas additive for my yard equipment but now I won’t fill my 5 gallon can (that’s really NOT 5 gallons) w/o using an additive that to help stabilize the gas and compensate for the added ethanol.

And let’s be honest, ethanol is made from corn (for the most part), I wonder if the corn farmers are getting any extra money or incentives for their product as it relates to the fuel industry and various forms of political influence.
It's old fuel vs food argument. There are subsidies for corn used for fuel. It raises the prices of livestock food as well, which we pay for at the supermarket.
 
E10, unlike E0, absorbs water...up to half of 1% by volume. E0 absorbs virtually no water.

E10 doesn't absorb water from the air but when moisture collects inside fuel cans or on things like the wall of a fuel tank, E10 will absorb it while E0 will not.
Which is why letting a vehicle sit unused with E10 in its tank is not good for that vehicle.

I’d solely use ethanol free (90 octane) gas for all my fuel needs but there is no way I could afford to do that over the long run.
 
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It's old fuel vs food argument. There are subsidies for corn used for fuel. It raises the prices of livestock food as well, which we pay for at the supermarket.
Yep, but as I’ve been told by people that can actually remember, grass fed beef is much better than corn fed beef and is better for you.
Same goes for non corn fed pork and chicken.

Either way, we’re getting it up the Hershey Highway without the common decency of a reach around or lubricant.
 
Yep, but as I’ve been told by people that can actually remember, grass fed beef is much better than corn fed beef and is better for you.
Same goes for non corn fed pork and chicken.

Either way, we’re getting it up the Hershey Highway without the common decency of a reach around or lubricant.
I'm not a fan of grass fed beef. I like my steaks heavily marbled. The fat is the best part! :p
We're all gonna die of something, so why not enjoy? While I have high blood pressure, I've got remarkably low cholesterol. Which is amazing considering my diet.:cool:
 
I'm not a fan of grass fed beef. I like my steaks heavily marbled. The fat is the best part! :p
We're all gonna die of something, so why not enjoy? While I have high blood pressure, I've got remarkable low cholesterol. Which is amazing considering my diet.:cool:
Well, since I can’t remember ever having indulged in grass fed beef I do have to agree that there isn’t much anything better in this world than a great big, fat marbled ribeye on my charcoal Weber, taken to my plate and then deposited in my stomach.
 
There is nothing you can do to an older engine to make it resistant to the effects of ethanol. And believe me i've tried synthetic seals and gaskets, cutting new valve seats and replacing them with stainless steel, even titanium valves. it just burns too hot for older engines, and is a nightmare if you have a carb.

Agree. The synthetic gaskets and seals probably help to a degree but it temporary at best.

Ethanol does burn hotter and it is worse on engines with carburetors and throttle bodies.
 
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Which is why letting a vehicle sit unused with E10 in its tank is not good for that vehicle.

I’d solely use ethanol free (90 octane) gas for all my fuel needs but there is no way I could afford to do that over the long run.

I use E0 (89) exclusively for my boats. I don't empty my tanks every time I use my boats and I store 10 5 gallon cans for use when I need them.

Also, my boats are stored in a boat house above the water in humid Alabama. So yea, there's plenty of moisture to be had if I used E10.
 
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I use E0 (89) exclusively for my boats. I don't empty my tanks every time I use my boats and I store 10 5 gallon cans for use when I need them.

Also, my boats are stored in a boat house above the water in humid Alabama. So yea, there's plenty of moisture to be had if I used E10.
Not sure why but I think E10 affects 2 stroke engines a lot more than 4 stroke.
 
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And back to the topic at hand (going to be difficult cause I’m hungry as shit now for a grilled ribeye), 5am June 9, regular unleaded was $4.69 to $4.71 - 3pm June 9 regular unleaded was $4.89.

Now I’m really not one to complain but I’ll be heading to Lejeune on the 10th of July to take my son and his vehicle back to his base and if I see gas anywhere below $5 a gallon, my state senator, representative and governor are going to get an ear full from me.
 
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Gas Prices Soar to National Average of $5 per Gallon

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