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Feveredbrains laughing in the dark (literal & figurative), but unable to rise to the challenge I presented... Typical.... 🙄

"Why don't any of you dweebs show me, using facts/stats, why you believe that #151 Pearsall ***,,,, is a better WR than #1 Shorter ***** is."
 
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instaGATOR said:
Feveredbrains laughing in the dark (literal & figurative), but unable to rise to the challenge I presented... Typical.... 🙄

"Why don't any of you dweebs show me, using facts/stats, why you believe that #151 Pearsall ***,,,, is a better WR than #1 Shorter ***** is."
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With Pearsall being a Junior and coming back next season, you have the misery of watching number 1(and very worthy of wearing that jersey) help mold the young badass WR's we have coming in.
 
They have as good or better, and with experience on the roster already.
Maybe one of those 4 newbees will play some, we'll see.

PS -- #1 WR Shorter hauled in 8 receptions for 106 yards on 9 targets.
And rsFr Reynolds had 8 receptions for 165 yds and 2 TD's

Without Wittemore, JuCo xfer Chiaokhiao-Bowman was targeted a career-high 8 times with 3 receptions for 54 yds. 🤓
 
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instaGATOR said:
They have as good or better, and with experience on the roster already.
Maybe one of those 4 newbees will play some, we'll see.

PS -- #1 WR Shorter hauled in 8 receptions for 106 yards on 9 targets.
And rsFr Reynolds had 8 receptions for 165 yds and 2 TD's

Without Wittemore, JuCo xfer Chiaokhiao-Bowman was targeted a career-high 8 times with 3 receptions for 54 yds. 🤓
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I thought Reynolds had a really good game and I have always liked Shorter.
 
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Gator Fever said:
He looks like he could end up pretty good if he catches the ball better. Might have just been early jitters for him though.
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Aside from Burke having the Jacob Copeland style drops, he looks good when he has the ball in hands.

On the AR-15 side, we may just get our wish having Kitna at QB in the Bowl game when AR opts out to enters the draft.
 
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gatordad3 said:
Aside from Burke having the Jacob Copeland style drops, he looks when he has the ball in hands.

On the AR-15 side, we may just get our wish having Kitna at QB in the Bowl game when AR opts out to enters the draft.
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Dad,

Depending on which Bowl game & the date it's played, if after Jan 1st - start of spring semester, we might even see Rashada & some of the other early entries.
 
Gator Fever said:
Has that ever happened before? Highly doubt any kid just on campus would be playing in a game.
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Fever,

Know for a fact that under Dan Mullen (Orange Bowl, UVA ?) E.E. players were on campus in DEC & practiced with the team. Since the game was played in Jan - after start of Spring Semester - they were eligable but didn't play.
Josh Braun was an OL fresh out of HS & Mullen smart enough not to feed him to the wolves against older/stronger DL in the Bowl game. BUT he did participate in several practice sessions.

READ & LEARN
"...Notable: Braun is already on campus and practicing with the Gators in preparation for the Orange Bowl. Braun was committed to Georgia for much of his senior year but flipped to Florida after Sam Pittman went to Arkansas."
https://www.gatorcountry.com/feature/florida-gators-signee-profile-offensive-tackle-joshua-braun/

If Rashada made it in time for all 15 sessions of Bowl Practice, I still don't think he would know enough to make a difference in a bowl game, but getting him acclimated might be interesting.
 
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gatordad3 said:
Aside from Burke having the Jacob Copeland style drops, he looks when he has the ball in hands.

On the AR-15 side, we may just get our wish having Kitna at QB in the Bowl game when AR opts out to enters the draft.
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Jeff from Jax said:
Dad,

Depending on which Bowl game & the date it's played, if after Jan 1st - start of spring semester, we might even see Rashada & some of the other early entries.
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Blind & ignorant, or just stupid? 🙄

Brown 14 Gms - 71.1% 2,750 Yds, 41 TD's 4 Ints, QBR 142.6
Rushing - 1,343 Yds, 7.8 YPC, 20 TD's, 0 LPF's
Combined 61 TD's to 4 TO's

Rashada 11 Gms - 63.5% for 2,388 Yds, 28 TD's, 10 Ints, QBR 110.8
Rushing - 341 Yds, 7.1 YPC, 5 TD's, 1 LPF
Combined 33 TD's to 11 TO's

AR-15 Ops out --- Kitna 1st half -- Brown 2nd half

Then the 3, Kitna, Brown, Rashada can compete in the Spring & Fall for the 2023 starting job.
 
Five Players who should come back to school to improve before they are NFL ready - Mike Farrell

Pundits can't make up their minds - switching from week to week (based no doubt on AR's game results) so it's no wonder AR is confused over his options.

If he actually is a high draft pick - TAKE the MONEY & RUN

FWIW - Latest Talking Head Out Flow -

Anthony Richardson, Florida​

One of the more polarizing prospects, Richardson flashes the tools that make NFL scouts drool. But he's as erratic as anyone, as evidenced by a mediocre performance against a poor Vanderbilt defense this past weekend that resulted in a Commodores victory.

If Richardson chooses to come back and focus on consistency and his decision-making especially in the RPO game, he could be No. 1 overall in 2024.

https://mikefarrellsports.com/3-poi...ost-disappointing-teams-qbs-who-should-return
 
Jeff from Jax said:
Five Players who should come back to school to improve before they are NFL ready - Mike Farrell

Pundits can't make up their minds - switching from week to week (based no doubt on AR's game results) so it's no wonder AR is confused over his options.

If he actually is a high draft pick - TAKE the MONEY & RUN

FWIW - Latest Talking Head Out Flow -

Anthony Richardson, Florida​

One of the more polarizing prospects, Richardson flashes the tools that make NFL scouts drool. But he's as erratic as anyone, as evidenced by a mediocre performance against a poor Vanderbilt defense this past weekend that resulted in a Commodores victory.

If Richardson chooses to come back and focus on consistency and his decision-making especially in the RPO game, he could be No. 1 overall in 2024.

https://mikefarrellsports.com/3-poi...ost-disappointing-teams-qbs-who-should-return
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I am 50/50 on whether I would want Richardson to return or not. If he did I would be daydreaming he might actually start keeping the ball a lot on those RPO's but then again if he is not even doing that now after playing in this many games over the last 2 years what makes you think the lightbulb will finally turn on there in 2023.
 
Getting Rid of the leftovers and the 'not ready for prime time.' QB's.

Richardson 6-4 232 rsJr - off to the NFL.
"Sometimes you've got to be selfish and see what's on the table, but I think it's just up to the person and their judgment.” -- AR-15
With a projected four-year deal totaling roughly $15 million, that's a figure that would likely outweigh any amount of NIL compensation he would receive while at Florida. (and it gets rid of the other local G'ville player from the roster -TW)

Jalen Kitna 6-4 208 rsSo - off to the portal, (just not good enough).
Max Brown 6-2 200 rsFr - off to the portal, (too much of a project).

BN is left with his own choices at QB, plus the 2 excellent WO's.

Jack Miller III 6-3 211 rsSo (tOSU 3rd string xfer)
Jaden Rashada 6-4 185 Fr (110.8 QBR)
Kyle Engel 6-1 190 rsJr (3rd on the depth chart over Brown for 2022)
Jack Anders 6-2 203 rsJr (still looking for his chance to shine)

Perfect!
 
instaGATOR said:
Getting Rid of the leftovers and the 'not ready for prime time.' QB's.

Richardson 6-4 232 rsJr - off to the NFL.
"Sometimes you've got to be selfish and see what's on the table, but I think it's just up to the person and their judgment.” -- AR-15
With a projected four-year deal totaling roughly $15 million, that's a figure that would likely outweigh any amount of NIL compensation he would receive while at Florida. (and it gets rid of the other local G'ville player from the roster -TW)

Jalen Kitna 6-4 208 rsSo - off to the portal, (just not good enough).
Max Brown 6-2 200 rsFr - off to the portal, (too much of a project).

BN is left with his own choices at QB, plus the 2 excellent WO's.

Jack Miller III 6-3 211 rsSo (tOSU 3rd string xfer)
Jaden Rashada 6-4 185 Fr (110.8 QBR)
Kyle Engel 6-1 190 rsJr (3rd on the depth chart over Brown for 2022)
Jack Anders 6-2 203 rsJr (still looking for his chance to shine)

Perfect!
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Rumors out there the QB at Wake Forest is considering coming here and he has already proven he can play even on a team with a talent disadvantage most weeks. It probably won't happen but would be great if it did to cover us for 2023 until another one is developed.
 
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Gator Fever said:
Rumors out there the QB at Wake Forest is considering coming here and he has already proven he can play even on a team with a talent disadvantage most weeks. It probably won't happen but would be great if it did to cover us for 2023 until another one is developed.
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WTF feveredbrains???
BN's first xfer QB didn't work out, so the solution now is to get another xfer QB that someone else has already coached up for him? (Del Rio, Appleby, Zaire)
I love the progress....
 
For those that are constantly whining and complaining about the posting of my opinions and speculations to the Mod/staff, I have a Locker Room Thanksgiving gift for yawl,,,, AMF!
 
instaGATOR said:
Getting Rid of the leftovers and the 'not ready for prime time players'


Max Brown 6-2 200 rsFr - off to the portal, (too much of a project).
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Insta,

OMG !

"Be still my palpitating heart !"

Billy recruited him; stole him away from Shark Boy !

Why are you giving up on Brown ?

He hasn't played, but neither has anyone else except for Kitna's few snaps.

Who's to say how good he is or isn't ?

In fairness to the young men, Billy as HC, QB Coach, & OC isn't giving them a fair shake or offering them any professional development.

Canes must really be in trouble for Rashada to flip to Gators !
 
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instaGATOR said:
WTF feveredbrains???
BN's first xfer QB didn't work out, so the solution now is to get another xfer QB that someone else has already coached up for him? (Del Rio, Appleby, Zaire)
I love the progress....
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Are you crazy? None of those other ones had proven themselves like that guy and Napier keeps saying Brown is behind the learning curve.
 
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If what I'm reading is true that AR is projected at #3 overall, best of luck to the young man.
 
gatordad3 said:
If what I'm reading is true that AR is projected at #3 overall, best of luck to the young man.
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Crazy stuff. Unless there is a crazy mental turnaround he will be one of the biggest busts in history.

Even with Vandy running mostly man he was missing all kinds of stuff that was wide open.
 
Will AR Sit out the Bowl Game ?

The Florida Gators secured bowl eligibility with their win over the South Carolina Gamecocks two weeks ago, but the team might be without two of its best players when the postseason finally comes around. 247Sports took a shot at projecting which players are likely to sit out for their team’s bowl game, and for Florida, those names are quarterback Anthony Richardson and guard O'Cyrus Torrence.

Both players have first-round potential, but Richardson lacks the experience Torrence has and could end up staying another year. Running back Montrell Johnson Jr. has already begun openly recruiting Richardson to return for another year, but several NFL scouts and draft analysts believe his natural talent will override his lack of experience when the draft comes around. If Richardson has made up his mind, the Florida State game on Friday could be his last appearance in the Orange in Blue.
https://gatorswire.usatoday.com/202...anthony-richardson-ocyrus-torrence-bowl-game/
 
gatordad3 said:
Time to welcome Sam Hartman.
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Dad,

Didn't recognize the name - currently (2022) listed as a JR
BUT
with 3 SOPH years listed, looks like he has taken both a covid & a RS year -

2 points

1. When you bring in someone like Hartman - for 1 year, AR & Napier obviously know what's up !

2. Hartman the reason we shafted Marcus Stokes.

sam-hartman-1.jpg

6-1, 208 lb

Career Passing​

  • * indicates bowl stats included
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YearGCmpAttPctYdsY/AAY/ATDIntRate
*2018916129155.319846.86.7168125.2
*20194559756.78308.68.542138.1
*2020915927358.222248.18.3135138.7
*20211429950858.942288.38.63914148.6
20221022135063.130748.89.33210161.4
Career895151958.9123408.18.3104
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/sam-hartman-1.html

Rushing Receiving​

YearGAttYdsTDRecYdsTDPlaysYdsTD
*2018910727520001072752
*201942789100027891
*2020963-1200063-12
*2021141173641113011836711
2022108589100085891
Career3998161713040081917

* indicates bowl stats include
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/sam-hartman-1.html
 
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Jeff from Jax said:
Dad,

Didn't recognize the name - currently (2022) listed as a JR
BUT
with 3 SOPH years listed, looks like he has taken both a covid & a RS year -

2 points

1. When you bring in someone like Hartman - for 1 year, AR & Napier obviously know what's up !

2. Hartman the reason we shafted Marcus Stokes.

sam-hartman-1.jpg

6-1, 208 lb

View embedded media

Career Passing​

  • * indicates bowl stats included
��
YearGCmpAttPctYdsY/AAY/ATDIntRate
*2018916129155.319846.86.7168125.2
*20194559756.78308.68.542138.1
*2020915927358.222248.18.3135138.7
*20211429950858.942288.38.63914148.6
20221022135063.130748.89.33210161.4
Career895151958.9123408.18.3104
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/sam-hartman-1.html

Rushing Receiving​

YearGAttYdsTDRecYdsTDPlaysYdsTD
*2018910727520001072752
*201942789100027891
*2020963-1200063-12
*2021141173641113011836711
2022108589100085891
Career3998161713040081917

* indicates bowl stats include
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/sam-hartman-1.html
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I hope this doesn't happen. I want a young QB that is developed at UF, not a 1-hit wonder from Wake Forest - no matter how good he might be.
 
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ocalaman said:
I hope this doesn't happen. I want a young QB that is developed at UF, not a 1-hit wonder from Wake Forest - no matter how good he might be.
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Ocala,

See your point & agree - BUT - I don't think it is possible in this case.

Rashada CAN be that QB, BUT not in his 1st season.

If Rashada does early entry & gets 15 bowl practice sessions (& maybe a series or 2 in the bowl), then does 15 spring practice sessions, & 15 fall practice sessions, he will be lucky if he has indifferent knowledge of the offense (which is still developing under Napier) & starts getting adjusted to the speed at which football is played in the SEC.

We scoff at the ACC, but Hartman has spent 5 pretty successfull years playing for Wake.

He knows the speed of the game in a power 5 conference. We may feel that the SEC is a league of bigger, faster, & more talented players & we may even be right in that assessment.

But when you look at the development process Hartman, coming from the ACC, will have to go through - to be SEC ready versus what Rashada, coming from HIGH SCHOOL, will have to go through to be SEC ready - it isn't even close !

Rome (Rashada) isn't built in a day !

Another IMPORTANT reality is that Billy must win games to keep his job !

Billy, as we ALL know, is trying to wear too many hats - HC, QB Coach, & OC.

No way he can do justice to developing 2 QBs !
 
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ocalaman said:
I hope this doesn't happen. I want a young QB that is developed at UF, not a 1-hit wonder from Wake Forest - no matter how good he might be.
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We don’t have a QB on the current roster that can be our starter next year. If AR leaves we are gonna have to find a starting QB in the portal. I’m not sold that Kitna is the answer although we may find out some in the bowl game.
 
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I guess we will see if an NFL coach and GM are willing to put their job on the line with AR after his passing this year but some people are claiming Arkansas is trying to get him to come there.
 
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Thanks for the memories, AR, although they are a mixed bag at that. Best of luck with your future, but I hope we have to new QB to lead UF to its future.
 
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Jeff from Jax said:
Dad,

Didn't recognize the name - currently (2022) listed as a JR
BUT
with 3 SOPH years listed, looks like he has taken both a covid & a RS year -

2 points

1. When you bring in someone like Hartman - for 1 year, AR & Napier obviously know what's up !

2. Hartman the reason we shafted Marcus Stokes.

sam-hartman-1.jpg

6-1, 208 lb

View embedded media

Career Passing​

  • * indicates bowl stats included
��
YearGCmpAttPctYdsY/AAY/ATDIntRate
*2018916129155.319846.86.7168125.2
*20194559756.78308.68.542138.1
*2020915927358.222248.18.3135138.7
*20211429950858.942288.38.63914148.6
20221022135063.130748.89.33210161.4
Career895151958.9123408.18.3104
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/sam-hartman-1.html

Rushing Receiving​

YearGAttYdsTDRecYdsTDPlaysYdsTD
*2018910727520001072752
*201942789100027891
*2020963-1200063-12
*2021141173641113011836711
2022108589100085891
Career3998161713040081917

* indicates bowl stats include
https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/sam-hartman-1.html
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Hartman in 5 Years --- 104 TD's - 30 Ints.
R - 816 Yds, 34 TD, LPF's not listed????
(HS 6-1 165 -- Now 6-1 208)

MaxPreps HS Stats for Max Brown, already 6-2 200

2020-21 Jr - 13 Gms
Passing - 88 of 121 72.7% for 1,666 Yds, 18.9 Ave, 27 TD's, 6 Ints, QBR 133.7
Rushing - 154 for 992 Yds, 6.4 YPC, 13 TD's, 1 LPF.

2021-22 Sr - 14 Gms
Passing - 167 of 235 71.1% for 2,750 Yds, 16.5 Ave, 41 TD's, 4 Ints, QBR 142.6
Rushing - 173 for 1,343 Yds, 7.8 YPC, 20 TD's, 0 LPF

Combined Jr/St HS - 27 Gms
Passing - 255 of 356 71.6% for 4,416 Yds, 17.3 Ave, 68 TD's, 10 Ints, QBR 141.3
Rushing - 327 for 2,335 Yds, 7.1 YPC, 33 TD's, 1 LPF

Total 2 Season Plays - 683 for 6,751 Yds, 101 TD's, 11 TO's

Maybe hiring a real/competent QB Coach would be better than taking in more pre-trained QB's from
elsewhere. ?
 
instaGATOR said:
Hartman in 5 Years --- 104 TD's - 30 Ints.
R - 816 Yds, 34 TD, LPF's not listed????
(HS 6-1 165 -- Now 6-1 208)

MaxPreps HS Stats for Max Brown, already 6-2 200

2020-21 Jr - 13 Gms
Passing - 88 of 121 72.7% for 1,666 Yds, 18.9 Ave, 27 TD's, 6 Ints, QBR 133.7
Rushing - 154 for 992 Yds, 6.4 YPC, 13 TD's, 1 LPF.

2021-22 Sr - 14 Gms
Passing - 167 of 235 71.1% for 2,750 Yds, 16.5 Ave, 41 TD's, 4 Ints, QBR 142.6
Rushing - 173 for 1,343 Yds, 7.8 YPC, 20 TD's, 0 LPF

Combined Jr/St HS - 27 Gms
Passing - 255 of 356 71.6% for 4,416 Yds, 17.3 Ave, 68 TD's, 10 Ints, QBR 141.3
Rushing - 327 for 2,335 Yds, 7.1 YPC, 33 TD's, 1 LPF

Total 2 Season Plays - 683 for 6,751 Yds, 101 TD's, 11 TO's

Maybe hiring a real/competent QB Coach would be better than taking in more pre-trained QB's from
elsewhere. 🤓
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You can't turn down someone like Hartman that makes a team like Wake Forest competitive. The guy has proven he can play good. Not sure if the rumors are true he is really considering coming here though.
 
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Gator Fever said:
I guess we will see if an NFL coach and GM are willing to put their job on the line with AR after his passing this year but some people are claiming Arkansas is trying to get him to come there.
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Fever,

!st Franks, then AR ?

Always thought of Pittman as an OL guy & good recruiter; not a developer of QBs.

If you told Josh Braun was going there that would make sense.

If AR knew he would be a mid 2nd round pick, wonder what his decision would be ?
 
Jeff from Jax said:
Fever,

!st Franks, then AR ?

Always thought of Pittman as an OL guy & good recruiter; not a developer of QBs.

If you told Josh Braun was going there that would make sense.

If AR knew he would be a mid 2nd round pick, wonder what his decision would be ?
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Franks at least cut down on the turnovers at Arkansas. Not sure what the heck Richardson is going to do but if the NFL guys drafted just by performance he might not even be an undrafted free agent at QB and would have to walk onto a camp. I can't remember any QBs that went in the 1st round that at least weren't decent in college besides the physical traits.
 
Jeff from Jax said:
Five Players who should come back to school to improve before they are NFL ready - Mike Farrell

Pundits can't make up their minds - switching from week to week (based no doubt on AR's game results) so it's no wonder AR is confused over his options.

If he actually is a high draft pick - TAKE the MONEY & RUN

FWIW - Latest Talking Head Out Flow -

Anthony Richardson, Florida​

One of the more polarizing prospects, Richardson flashes the tools that make NFL scouts drool. But he's as erratic as anyone, as evidenced by a mediocre performance against a poor Vanderbilt defense this past weekend that resulted in a Commodores victory.

If Richardson chooses to come back and focus on consistency and his decision-making especially in the RPO game, he could be No. 1 overall in 2024.

https://mikefarrellsports.com/3-poi...ost-disappointing-teams-qbs-who-should-return
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Did you hear that idiot announcer saying Richardson had his best game of the year against Vanderbilt? I think it was Osweiler. Seriously am I only one that heard that? One or both of those guys are village idiots. 😂
 
Gator Fever said:
Franks at least cut down on the turnovers at Arkansas. Not sure what the heck Richardson is going to do but if the NFL guys drafted just by performance he might not even be an undrafted free agent at QB and would have to walk onto a camp. I can't remember any QBs that went in the 1st round that at least weren't decent in college besides the physical traits.
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I hope he doesn't turn out to be another JaMarcus Russell.
 
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