Anyone following what is happening at Mizzou?

[goldmom]

In this day and age everybody is now a blogger and has their own website and post articles slanted the way they want it to be. The article that MJ posted and the way it's written on that far right site is completely slanted to make it look like the Black students couldn't spell or punctuate correctly so they accused the professor of being racist because he corrected them. That is not at all the case. They accused him of correcting "perceived grammatical choices that in actuality reflect ideologies" and "repeatedly questioning our work on social identity and the related dynamics of oppression, power and privilege". It goes much deeper than punctuation, but the audience that site is targeting doesn't care, they just post things to cause outrage among their followers. And by the way, the site MJ linked was founded by a guy who was involved in a plagiarism scandal. Yeah, a real stand up guy. lol

What is epistemological preferences? Please explain.
Again, did he single out students of color, or did he make it a practice to do the same for all of his students without regard to their skin color?
Perceived grammatical choices? Questioning work on social identity and related dynamics of oppression power and privilege....This sounds like a Dave Chappelle comedy skit/monologue.

So in other words, the old word for this raises its ancient head....Ebonics!

Did you know that Obama's Vice-President, Old Joe, was involved in a huge plagiarism scandal himself, which is why his Presidential ambitions were torpedoed back in '88? So it's OK for a VP - as long as he's a liberal - to plagiarize but not ok for some guy on some "far right site" who's merely offering his own opinions fully protected under the First Amendment that the carrot top look alike denied to the student journalist who was a stringer for ESPN. Got it.

Here's what we do....we read all sorts of sites, publications, opinion pieces, etc. and then we sit down and think about what we've just absorbed, and then - wait for it - we reach our own conclusions! What a shock!

IF you really attended FSU, you must not have had Dr. Dye for any government classes. I still remember after all these years his admonishment to us that as citizens of the greatest country on earth, it was our obligation to seek out multiple sources in order to obtain all sides of an issue and to be informed before deciding for ourselves what our position was on any given issue of the day.

 

[danoleman]

What is epistemological preferences? Please explain.
Again, did he single out students of color, or did he make it a practice to do the same for all of his students without regard to their skin color?
Perceived grammatical choices? Questioning work on social identity and related dynamics of oppression power and privilege....This sounds like a Dave Chappelle comedy skit/monologue.
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I'm just showing you it was more than just simply spelling errors like MJ's website founded by a plagiarist tried to make it out to be.

 

[GatorGray]

I haven't paid attention to a bit of this nonsense situation but were they trying to say a teammate wasn't eating and was starving? Because that's impossible on a college football team, even the lowliest walk ons eat like kings at the Caf on the daily after practice.

No, not even close.

 

[CompuGator]

UCLA is a respected academic institution, and it seems odd that so many students would have deficiencies in language and communication skills.

As the 2nd institution established in the University of California system, it should certainly get the cream of the student crop for those entering public universities in what they amusingly call the Southland. Students of comparable overall quality in-state could be reasonably presumed to have applied also to Cal (i.e.: U.C. Berkeley), Stanford Junior U., or U. So-Cal, unless they're seeking a small-college experience.

But you're applying logic to a situation that's overwhelmed by other factors. Those premier universities are duty-bound to deal as best they can with the students they accept. Whole generations of California students have been fouled by California treating its public-school students as experimental subjects in statewide public-education experiments justified by edutrendy theories hypotheses foolishly optimistic guesses: Most notoriously in "bilingual" and "whole-language" education.

Let's not forget that Ebonics gained its fame in the San Francisco Bay Area (in the Oakland that's also notorious for the Black Panthers, if I recall correctly).

 

[Rushie]

In this day and age everybody is now a blogger and has their own website and post articles slanted the way they want it to be. The article that MJ posted and the way it's written on that far right site is completely slanted to make it look like the Black students couldn't spell or punctuate correctly so they accused the professor of being racist because he corrected them. That is not at all the case. They accused him of correcting "perceived grammatical choices that in actuality reflect ideologies" and "repeatedly questioning our work on social identity and the related dynamics of oppression, power and privilege". It goes much deeper than punctuation, but the audience that site is targeting doesn't care, they just post things to cause outrage among their followers. And by the way, the site MJ linked was founded by a guy who was involved in a plagiarism scandal. Yeah, a real stand up guy. lol

Rips "far right" source, completely ignores lengthy article by left-leaning publication.

Punctuation, spelling, and grammer are either correct or they are not. The students were nothing more than ageist bigots.

 

[Uniformed_ReRe]

In Danoleman's defense, the description found in the Atlantic was more balanced and included background details that the right-leaning publication did not.

 

[Rushie]

Well, I would hope a news report would be more balanced than a blog entry or op-ed piece....although when it comes to outlets like the NY Times and Politico may expectations are greatly reduced.

 

[GatorGray]

From her Twitter profile:

 

[goldmom]

As the 2nd institution established in the University of California system, it should certainly get the cream of the student crop for those entering public universities in what they amusingly call the Southland. Students of comparable overall quality in-state could be reasonably presumed to have applied also to Cal (i.e.: U.C. Berkeley), Stanford Junior U., or U. So-Cal, unless they're seeking a small-college experience.

But you're applying logic to a situation that's overwhelmed by other factors. Those premier universities are duty-bound to deal as best they can with the students they accept. Whole generations of California students have been fouled by California treating its public-school students as experimental subjects in statewide public-education experiments justified by edutrendy theories hypotheses foolishly optimistic guesses: Most notoriously in "bilingual" and "whole-language" education.

Let's not forget that Ebonics gained its fame in the San Francisco Bay Area (in the Oakland that's also notorious for the Black Panthers, if I recall correctly).

Excellent points, Comp; however, my recollection was that the movement to adopt Ebonics into public school curriculum was first proposed and nearly adopted into the Detroit Public School (Wayne County) System in the early 80's, but was ultimately rejected.

The whole language approach, which I found appalling as a teacher, is part of the larger picture of how we cosset young people today. But that's another topic.

 

[goldmom]

I'm just showing you it was more than just simply spelling errors like MJ's website founded by a plagiarist tried to make it out to be.

Confirm or disprove, please, that the Professor corrected the errors of all his students.

 

[MJWilliamson]

When Compu-Gator gets angry, I'll bet he looks like this:

But he will evolve to this;

 

[CompuGator]

Her name is Melissa Click.

Aha! At last (thank you)! So she is indeed this, um, witch:

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Who deserves to be fired, and then publicly caned using unipods monopods, and flogged using "PC"-cords[*]. To share that punishment with her 2 partners in physically interfering with the First Amendment rights of a Mizzou-student videographer on public land, including inciting assault & battery by a mob to carry out her demands.

Calling her a "Marxist" is needlessly demeaning to the guy who wrote Das Kapital. I'm sure Karl would have at least politely listened to your opinion before disagreeing.

Perhaps. Her latest episodes reveal an attitude that might reasonably be called Leninist or maybe Maoist, but I claim no expertise.

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Note *: "PC-cord" in the photography terminology of the mid20th century meaning an electronic-flash cable having a "PC" plug that connected to a "PC" terminal on the camera body. And the camera-positioning accessory mentioned nearby is more commonly called by its Greek-derived name (as later corrected); I knew something didn't look quite right.

Note #: Source unknown; not credited on site on which I first saw it.

 

[GatorGray]

Now, about that name change, Compu...

 

[MJWilliamson]

Confirm or disprove, please, that the Professor corrected the errors of all his students.

Exactly the point, danoleman participates in the time honored liberal tradition of attacking the source of the information he dislikes.

 

[TennesseeGator]

• Denialman

I assume UCLA also has a good population of Asians, Native Americans, Hispanics, and Caucasian students.

Did this professor also correct those students grammar, spelling, and punctuation?

Yes or no? Or you and the protesting students have no idea whatsoever?

 

[danoleman]

Confirm or disprove, please, that the Professor corrected the errors of all his students.

Why don't you give the students or the professor a call and ask them. MJ put up a slanted article from a site ran by a disgraced journalist and I simply said it's more to the story than just some students protesting because a professor said they misspelled some words. Anyone that's willing to believe something so shallow on a college campus is well, never mind. Smh

 

[djegators]

Anyone that's willing to believe something so shallow on a college campus is well, never mind.

Shallow like getting a University President fired because there are rumors of someone yelling something not nice at someone else? GTFO

 

[danoleman]

Shallow like getting a University President fired because there are rumors of someone yelling something not nice at someone else? GTFO

Well get on the phone and call Mizzou students, faculty, staff, football players and the AD because they all disagree with you.

 

[djegators]

Well get on the phone and call Mizzou students, faculty, staff, football players and the AD because they all disagree with you.

ALL of them? So you called ALL of them to find out? I believe that is your standard...but either way, all you are really advocating is mob rule, unless you can point to some sort of due process I am unaware of in this case.

 

[danoleman]

ALL of them? So you called ALL of them to find out? I believe that is your standard...but either way, all you are really advocating is mob rule, unless you can point to some sort of due process I am unaware of in this case.

Didn't say all, but many of them have. Have you been watching these events the last few days?? You do realize this wasn't just a student protest, correct??

 

[djegators]

Didn't say all, but many of them have. Have you been watching these events the last few days?? You do realize this wasn't just a student protest, correct??

Nope, it was more a "community organizer" style pot-stirring...a bunch of mob rule and political blackmail, paid protesters, etc.

 

[djegators]

because they all disagree with you

Didn't say all

OK, got it!

 

[danoleman]

Nope, it was more a "community organizer" style pot-stirring...a bunch of mob rule and political blackmail, paid protesters, etc.

Of course it was. Tin foil hats must be going 2 for 1 now??

 

[djegators]

Of course it was. Tin foil hats must be going 2 for 1 now??

Ah, so you think it was a spontaneous grass roots movement based entirely on real life events....not I seriously doubt you believe that.

 

[danoleman]

OK, got it!

All of the ones protesting genius.

 

[danoleman]

Ah, so you think it was a spontaneous grass roots movement based entirely on real life events....not I seriously doubt you believe that.

Have you ever been on college campus??

 

[goldmom]

Didn't say all, but many of them have. Have you been watching these events the last few days?? You do realize this wasn't just a student protest, correct??

No, it is actually part of a larger plan at work by leftist operatives to ramp up emotions and thus drive turnout in 2016 among the most loyal and unquestioning core group of Dem voters - African Americans.

An 8 year professional "grad student" allegedly just so frustrated because he was being treated sooo badly and he was stuck at Mizzou. His family must have been in such abject poverty that he knew he couldn't leave Mizzou and go to grad school elsewhere because they couldn't afford it. Do you know how hard it is to make it on $8.4 million a year in Omaha Nebraska? Why, there must have been nothing left.

 

[danoleman]

No, it is actually part of a larger plan at work by leftist operatives to ramp up emotions and thus drive turnout in 2016 among the most loyal and unquestioning core group of Dem voters - African Americans.

An 8 year professional "grad student" allegedly just so frustrated because he was being treated sooo badly and he was stuck at Mizzou. His family must have been in such abject poverty that he knew he couldn't leave Mizzou and go to grad school elsewhere because they couldn't afford it. Do you know how hard it is to make it on $8.4 million a year in Omaha Nebraska? Why, there must have been nothing left.

OK, smh. Make sure you return your Tin foil hat when you're done.

 

[djegators]

Have you ever been on college campus??

Stupid question...I have spent plenty of time at the leftist seminaries known as universities....but more importantly, why do you have such a giant chip on your shoulder, is your life really so bad? And is it really all the fault of white people?

 

[djegators]

Ooops!

 

[gatorRAD]

Still no video proof of these incidents in Missou, while 93% of blacks being murdered are killed by other blacks! Everything is backwards!

 

[danoleman]

Stupid question...I have spent plenty of time at the leftist seminaries known as universities....but more importantly, why do you have such a giant chip on your shoulder, is your life really so bad? And is it really all the fault of white people?

Show me where I said my life was bad?? Yours I'm sure is because you always seem so unhappy. If Winston isn't pissing you off by playing well, a protest happens and pisses you off even more! Congrats!

 

[djegators]

Show me where I said my life was bad?? Yours I'm sure is because you always seem so unhappy. If Winston isn't pissing you off by playing well, a protest happens and pisses you off even more! Congrats!

Seems I recall you alluding to the dislike of jamie being racism too!

 

[djegators]

Still no video proof of these incidents in Missou, while 93% of blacks being murdered are killed by other blacks! Everything is backwards!

RACIST!

 

[danoleman]

Seems I recall you alluding to the dislike of jamie being racism too!

That's a lie and it's shameful of you to post that. Doesn't surprise me though. "When the hate don't work, they start telling lies".

 

[djegators]

That's a lie and it's shameful of you to post that. Doesn't surprise me though. "When the hate don't work, they start telling lies".

I said :seems"...it may have been a different jock-sniffing jamie lover...but I am sure it has been said by someone on here..

 

[danoleman]

I said :seems"...it may have been a different jock-sniffing jamie lover...but I am sure it has been said by someone on here..

smh

 

[goldmom]

Ooops!

That is unbelievable. Stay away from windows? RUFS?

 

[keyzer soze]

Ooops!

Better watch out for Whitey. He's the boogeyman. Because, as you know, the kkk runs around assaulting people through windows.
Danoleman, if you can't see the overblown, hyperbolic nature of this whole thing it's because you choose not to.

 

[danoleman]

Better watch out for Whitey. He's the boogeyman. Because, as you know, the kkk runs around assaulting people through windows.
Danoleman, if you can't see the overblown, hyperbolic nature of this whole thing it's because you choose not to.

Dude you don't have a clue what going on with that campus and neither do I. It's hilarious reading through this thread and seeing people's comments. Hell, one poster even said this is the work of the left trying to influence the 2016 presidential election. Politics truly bring out the crazy in people.