But wasn't Trump trying to keep them out and Biden is not? Obviously no president can cut illegal entry to zero, but I don't know how you can possibly compare what's going on with illegal entry between these 2 administrations.Connie Koontz
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Did you say their names or make a BIG deal about it when they were murdered during the Trump administration by illegals immigrants?
So you only care when it's under a democrat? People like you make me sick TBH. Don't use people deaths for political gains or what you think would be gain. Your last comment even proves that its about politics. Man you're sad.
You can talk about immigration and not selectively use people deaths for gains. Those family don't care who was the president. They just know that they lost a loved one because of an illegal immigrant.The immigrant problem wasn't as over-the-top obvious as it is now.
But wasn't Trump trying to keep them out and Biden is not? Obviously no president can cut illegal entry to zero, but I don't know how you can possibly compare what's going on with illegal entry between these 2 administrations.
You can talk about immigration and not selectively use people deaths for gains. Those family don't care who was the president. They just know that they lost a loved one because of an illegal immigrant.
Would you say "well my child was murdered but it's ok because Trump is trying". Seriously, think before you post people. I am actually surprised that you would try to down play a murder. You always seemed more balanced.
No, because the overall influx of immigrants was a fraction of what it is today. Our border policy was effective relative to the historical context.Connie Koontz
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Did you say their names or make a BIG deal about it when they were murdered during the Trump administration by illegals immigrants?
No one is saying that, or “using deaths for gains”.You can talk about immigration and not selectively use people deaths for gains. Those family don't care who was the president. They just know that they lost a loved one because of an illegal immigrant.
Would you say "well my child was murdered but it's ok because Trump is trying". Seriously, think before you post people. I am actually surprised that you would try to down play a murder. You always seemed more balanced.
Cut the crap. It's all about getting votes. Stop it. Because if you truly cared then you would upset about it all, no matter the president or which party the news would benefit.No one is saying that, or “using deaths for gains”.
The only “gain” anyone is asking for is a secure and enforced border. Why don’t you want that too?
Your straw man is a coverup for the fact you can’t admit what’s going on is a complete disaster, and it’s 100% intentional.
I'm not the one going around making a big deal about or using someone's death for political purposes. If you guys want to talk about the border and how many illegals are overwhelmingly here, fine. That's a fair conversation and respectable but when you start hyping up someone's death, I can't respect that.geez louise kalim - use your brain- Trump was able to reduce the amunt of illegal immigration evenwith all the dem guvners doind their loevel best to get around it along with the dims in Congress- the fact that an illegal killed someone when trump was prez is just as unacceptable as it is now- the difference is joey has opened the damned door wide ass open and the amount of vermin hat is coming in is crazy and you are okay with it which makes it even crazier - we have laws which you libs want to just ignore
How does highlighting this murder “get votes”?Cut the crap. It's all about getting votes. Stop it. Because if you truly cared then you would upset about it all, no matter the president or which party the news would benefit.
We don't have to lie.
Well I know you're dishonest and will avoid answering and/or acknowledging reality. Reality is, illegal immigrants murdered people under Trump as well. At no time did you post about it. Why not?How does highlighting this murder “get votes”?
And answer the question - why are you ok with a wide open border while the administration tells us it is “closed”?
SMDHWell I know you're dishonest and will avoid answering and/or acknowledging reality. Reality is, illegal immigrants murdered people under Trump as well. At no time did you post about it. Why not?
- Because we were having success limiting the influx of illegal immigrants - it was a much smaller scale problem. You use a horrible case like this to make it real for people. Saying illegal immigrants kill X number of people a year doesn’t hit home like a heartbreaking story. Were you this pissed about how they used George Floyd? And that issue (cops killing black men) was statically much more BS than this one.
The Republican party is attempting to inflame this situation by using this murder, the same thing they tried with Molly Tibbets. It's rinse and repeat. You have to see that, right?
- The Republican Party just used the name on a bill. You call trying to enforce border laws “inflaming the situation”. Did you say the same about the 3 months of Floyd riots? Do you see the difference?
I don't care about the border. I just don't. Maybe I should more but I don't. All administration's lie or play with the facts. If I cared about immigration like you do, then of course this would bother me.
- I hope this doesn’t happen but if we continue to let in 10MM illegal immigrants every 3 years you will. Current cost for the 36MM illegal immigrants is about a half trillion a year. It’s not sustainable. It stresses local infrastructure. Remember Mayor Adams comments a few months ago, before Biden dropped the hammer on him?
Every issue isn't a voting issue to everybody.
- Then ignore it - you’re all spun up for someone who doesn’t care.
You definitely never lost someone to murder because if you did, you wouldn't make excuses for why murder isn't that big of deal because someone is trying or improved.SMDH
You’re straw manning again. Post 169 I already dealt with this.You definitely never lost someone to murder because if you did, you wouldn't make excuses for why murder isn't that big of deal because someone is trying or improved.
I think the George Floyd crap was gimmick too. I never was on board with that. You seriously mistake me for someone else. The democrats were inflaming race by talking about him so much.
Both parties have their presidential election time "issues". Democrats is race and Republicans is immigration. Unlike you, I know/accept that it's going to happen. Well you already accepted that you're OK with being a follower. So it makes sense.
You didn't answer. You still made excuses for Trump. Either highlight it all or you're being selective/politicial. It's pretty simple.You’re straw manning again. Post 169 I already dealt with this.
Highlighting one murder by an illegal doesn’t make all others not “that big of a deal”.
And you didn’t read what I posted.
Illegal immigration will ruin the country, you have to control who comes into your country and you have to know who is immigrating.
We let in more legal immigrants than any other country in the world. And we need them. But they are vetted and participate in our society.
Illegal immigrants don’t and drain local and state resources because they don’t pay in, except for use taxes.
Have you checked the murder rate in Venezuela lately? Any idea why that’s trending in the right direction?
That is not my problem. If your country is a shithole, grow some balls and fix it. Dont come here and bring your bullshit with you.You didn't answer. You still made excuses for Trump. Either highlight it all or you're being selective/politicial. It's pretty simple.
You do understand why we have so many immigrants coming here? I know you were told that it's only because of Biden policies. That's not true. Venezuela and most of Central America were destroyed by covid. They have nothing there. The world need to invest in that area and mostly us because they are flooding our country.
I didn't make excuses for anyone. Trump did a great job, relatively speaking, with the border despite having wall development blocked by the House. If something isn't as big of a problem people aren't going to be as mad about it and there's little to no reason to highlight specific instances. Same reason we haven't seen another George Floyd, people figured out that white cops hunting down and killing black men isn't an epidemic.You didn't answer. You still made excuses for Trump. Either highlight it all or you're being selective/politicial. It's pretty simple.
You do understand why we have so many immigrants coming here? I know you were told that it's only because of Biden policies. That's not true. Venezuela and most of Central America were destroyed by covid. They have nothing there. The world need to invest in that area and mostly us because they are flooding our country.
Laken's parents are certainly taking the opposite side of this argument...Would you say "well my child was murdered but it's ok because Trump is trying". Seriously, think before you post people. I am actually surprised that you would try to down play a murder. You always seemed more balanced.
Most of it was nothing but lies. They don't even deport the ones who commit felonies.
Most of it was nothing but lies. They don't even deport the ones who commit felonies.
I guess Charlamagne tha God won't be black anymore since he ain't voting for Biden either.
And important to note....he's not voting Republican, he's voting for Donald J Trump.
Just move on!
So you only care when it's under a democrat? People like you make me sick TBH. Don't use people deaths for political gains or what you think would be gain. Your last comment even proves that its about politics. Man you're sad.
No idea why I was tagged on this.
I never said that I care at all. It's about when YOU chose to care, since you're whining and bitching about it.So you only care if it happens on Trumps watch, and if there is a certain amount of melanin in the skin?
So it’s literally politics and race for you.
The hell with peoples safety and lives.
Disgusting.
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No idea why I was tagged on this.
I never said that I care at all. It's about when YOU chose to care, since you're whining and bitching about it.
I NEVER said that I am ok with. I actually said that I wasn't ok with. Why didn't you link that?Sure you did. You were fully on board with George Floyd being used…but here you are now. 🪤. You make this too easy.
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I'm certainly not writing her off like she's become irrelevant. Her star has lost some of its luster, however. She still has the opportunity to make a big splash in national politics; time will tell. I do agree with that...she is out of the spotlight at this time. However she is one hell of a...florida.forums.rivals.com
Sarcasm doesn't help but Ok?Because there is a way to tag people by using the @ symbol plus username, and I chose to use it.
I NEVER said that I am ok with. I actually said that I wasn't ok with. Why didn't you link that?
For the people that won't click on the link you provided, I was giving a reason for the black turnout. Giving a reason for something and my personal views are not the same.
That would be like, if you explain why a QB made a certain decision on a pass at a press conference. It doesn't mean that you agree with the decision but you can explain his decision to media.
So far so good just promising to pay for everything and never delivering.The LBJ strategy works perfectly.
Just a trinket every now and then does the trick.....tear down a statue.....make 'juneteenth' a holiday....So far so good just promising to pay for everything and never delivering.
It's sad that you guys are using her death for political gains. You guys tried that with Molly Tibbets until her family spoke out against it. If Biden wins, you guys will never speak of Laken Riley again. The republican party is very consistent with their playbook.
You can talk about immigration and not selectively use people deaths for gains. Those family don't care who was the president. They just know that they lost a loved one because of an illegal immigrant.
Would you say "well my child was murdered but it's ok because Trump is trying". Seriously, think before you post people. I am actually surprised that you would try to down play a murder. You always seemed more balanced.
EVERY lib thatr has ever walked this earth....again....exactly WHY they are NOT AmericansSo you only care if it happens on Trumps watch, and if there is a certain amount of melanin in the skin?
So it’s literally politics and race for you.
The hell with peoples safety and lives.
Disgusting.
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Won't need to if the problem goes away.It's sad that you guys are using her death for political gains. You guys tried that with Molly Tibbets until her family spoke out against it. If Biden wins, you guys will never speak of Laken Riley again. The republican party is very consistent with their playbook.