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Annnnnnnndddd....the dems have officially lost the black vote

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Did you say their names or make a BIG deal about it when they were murdered during the Trump administration by illegals immigrants?
But wasn't Trump trying to keep them out and Biden is not? Obviously no president can cut illegal entry to zero, but I don't know how you can possibly compare what's going on with illegal entry between these 2 administrations.
 
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So you only care when it's under a democrat? People like you make me sick TBH. Don't use people deaths for political gains or what you think would be gain. Your last comment even proves that its about politics. Man you're sad.

Say her name. Your behavior is disgusting.

You put Politics ahead of lives.

One admin fights illegals the other encourages it. Your behavior is gross.
 
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The immigrant problem wasn't as over-the-top obvious as it is now.
You can talk about immigration and not selectively use people deaths for gains. Those family don't care who was the president. They just know that they lost a loved one because of an illegal immigrant.

Would you say "well my child was murdered but it's ok because Trump is trying". Seriously, think before you post people. I am actually surprised that you would try to down play a murder. You always seemed more balanced.
 
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But wasn't Trump trying to keep them out and Biden is not? Obviously no president can cut illegal entry to zero, but I don't know how you can possibly compare what's going on with illegal entry between these 2 administrations.


Bingo. And we have the receipts. Furthermore, he quickly searched to find names for whatabboutism. It’s disgusting. Maybe he will go all racist and call me white again.
 
You can talk about immigration and not selectively use people deaths for gains. Those family don't care who was the president. They just know that they lost a loved one because of an illegal immigrant.

Would you say "well my child was murdered but it's ok because Trump is trying". Seriously, think before you post people. I am actually surprised that you would try to down play a murder. You always seemed more balanced.

Ignorant Take. Quit living in the past and focus on what THIS administration has done (encourage illegal crossings) while the past administration fought against it.

Your behavior is disgusting.
 
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geez louise kalim - use your brain- Trump was able to reduce the amunt of illegal immigration evenwith all the dem guvners doind their loevel best to get around it along with the dims in Congress- the fact that an illegal killed someone when trump was prez is just as unacceptable as it is now- the difference is joey has opened the damned door wide ass open and the amount of vermin hat is coming in is crazy and you are okay with it which makes it even crazier - we have laws which you libs want to just ignore
 
Connie Koontz
Jerry Sherri David
Ian Eckles

Did you say their names or make a BIG deal about it when they were murdered during the Trump administration by illegals immigrants?
No, because the overall influx of immigrants was a fraction of what it is today. Our border policy was effective relative to the historical context.

It’s impossible to make the number of illegal immigrants zero, but we can do better than 10MM every 3 years.
 
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You can talk about immigration and not selectively use people deaths for gains. Those family don't care who was the president. They just know that they lost a loved one because of an illegal immigrant.

Would you say "well my child was murdered but it's ok because Trump is trying". Seriously, think before you post people. I am actually surprised that you would try to down play a murder. You always seemed more balanced.
No one is saying that, or “using deaths for gains”.

The only “gain” anyone is asking for is a secure and enforced border. Why don’t you want that too?

Your straw man is a coverup for the fact you can’t admit what’s going on is a complete disaster, and it’s 100% intentional.
 
I have recognized this dem tactic for years and it is as long as dems can find one instance or any instance on a republican of the same thing you are accusing dems of, they will use it as if there is total equality on both parties with no recognition of proportionality. So if democrats murder 90 people today and republicans murder 10, the dem talking point is that both republicans and democrats murdered people today. So as long as ANY illegals murdered anybody in Trump's term, it's equal to today.
 
No one is saying that, or “using deaths for gains”.

The only “gain” anyone is asking for is a secure and enforced border. Why don’t you want that too?

Your straw man is a coverup for the fact you can’t admit what’s going on is a complete disaster, and it’s 100% intentional.
Cut the crap. It's all about getting votes. Stop it. Because if you truly cared then you would upset about it all, no matter the president or which party the news would benefit.

We don't have to lie.
 
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geez louise kalim - use your brain- Trump was able to reduce the amunt of illegal immigration evenwith all the dem guvners doind their loevel best to get around it along with the dims in Congress- the fact that an illegal killed someone when trump was prez is just as unacceptable as it is now- the difference is joey has opened the damned door wide ass open and the amount of vermin hat is coming in is crazy and you are okay with it which makes it even crazier - we have laws which you libs want to just ignore
I'm not the one going around making a big deal about or using someone's death for political purposes. If you guys want to talk about the border and how many illegals are overwhelmingly here, fine. That's a fair conversation and respectable but when you start hyping up someone's death, I can't respect that.

As I previously stated, if the murders mattered then you would've been mad under Trump, Obama, etc. If you didn't post about the murderers under Trump than why post now? don't pick and chose when to "say the name". It's sick and pathetic.

I personally don't care about immigration and it's not in my top 10 voting reasons. I'm only engaging because I'm being asked. Also, I concede that Biden is worse president of my lifetime in regards to the border. So no need to keep asking me about it. He's awful with it and I don't care.
 
Cut the crap. It's all about getting votes. Stop it. Because if you truly cared then you would upset about it all, no matter the president or which party the news would benefit.

We don't have to lie.
How does highlighting this murder “get votes”?

And answer the question - why are you ok with a wide open border while the administration tells us it is “closed”?
 
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How does highlighting this murder “get votes”?

And answer the question - why are you ok with a wide open border while the administration tells us it is “closed”?
Well I know you're dishonest and will avoid answering and/or acknowledging reality. Reality is, illegal immigrants murdered people under Trump as well. At no time did you post about it. Why not?

The Republican party is attempting to inflame this situation by using this murder, the same thing they tried with Molly Tibbets. It's rinse and repeat. You have to see that, right?

I don't care about the border. I just don't. Maybe I should more but I don't. All administration's lie or play with the facts. If I cared about immigration like you do, then of course this would bother me.

Every issue isn't a voting issue to everybody.
 
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Well I know you're dishonest and will avoid answering and/or acknowledging reality. Reality is, illegal immigrants murdered people under Trump as well. At no time did you post about it. Why not?
- Because we were having success limiting the influx of illegal immigrants - it was a much smaller scale problem. You use a horrible case like this to make it real for people. Saying illegal immigrants kill X number of people a year doesn’t hit home like a heartbreaking story. Were you this pissed about how they used George Floyd? And that issue (cops killing black men) was statically much more BS than this one.

The Republican party is attempting to inflame this situation by using this murder, the same thing they tried with Molly Tibbets. It's rinse and repeat. You have to see that, right?
- The Republican Party just used the name on a bill. You call trying to enforce border laws “inflaming the situation”. Did you say the same about the 3 months of Floyd riots? Do you see the difference?

I don't care about the border. I just don't. Maybe I should more but I don't. All administration's lie or play with the facts. If I cared about immigration like you do, then of course this would bother me.
- I hope this doesn’t happen but if we continue to let in 10MM illegal immigrants every 3 years you will. Current cost for the 36MM illegal immigrants is about a half trillion a year. It’s not sustainable. It stresses local infrastructure. Remember Mayor Adams comments a few months ago, before Biden dropped the hammer on him?

Every issue isn't a voting issue to everybody.
- Then ignore it - you’re all spun up for someone who doesn’t care.
SMDH
 
You definitely never lost someone to murder because if you did, you wouldn't make excuses for why murder isn't that big of deal because someone is trying or improved.

I think the George Floyd crap was gimmick too. I never was on board with that. You seriously mistake me for someone else. The democrats were inflaming race by talking about him so much.

Both parties have their presidential election time "issues". Democrats is race and Republicans is immigration. Unlike you, I know/accept that it's going to happen. Well you already accepted that you're OK with being a follower. So it makes sense.
 
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You definitely never lost someone to murder because if you did, you wouldn't make excuses for why murder isn't that big of deal because someone is trying or improved.

I think the George Floyd crap was gimmick too. I never was on board with that. You seriously mistake me for someone else. The democrats were inflaming race by talking about him so much.

Both parties have their presidential election time "issues". Democrats is race and Republicans is immigration. Unlike you, I know/accept that it's going to happen. Well you already accepted that you're OK with being a follower. So it makes sense.
You’re straw manning again. Post 169 I already dealt with this.

Highlighting one murder by an illegal doesn’t make all others not “that big of a deal”.

And you didn’t read what I posted.

Illegal immigration will ruin the country, you have to control who comes into your country and you have to know who is immigrating.

We let in more legal immigrants than any other country in the world. And we need them. But they are vetted and participate in our society.

Illegal immigrants don’t and drain local and state resources because they don’t pay in, except for use taxes.

Have you checked the murder rate in Venezuela lately? Any idea why that’s trending in the right direction?
 
You’re straw manning again. Post 169 I already dealt with this.

Highlighting one murder by an illegal doesn’t make all others not “that big of a deal”.

And you didn’t read what I posted.

Illegal immigration will ruin the country, you have to control who comes into your country and you have to know who is immigrating.

We let in more legal immigrants than any other country in the world. And we need them. But they are vetted and participate in our society.

Illegal immigrants don’t and drain local and state resources because they don’t pay in, except for use taxes.

Have you checked the murder rate in Venezuela lately? Any idea why that’s trending in the right direction?
You didn't answer. You still made excuses for Trump. Either highlight it all or you're being selective/politicial. It's pretty simple.

You do understand why we have so many immigrants coming here? I know you were told that it's only because of Biden policies. That's not true. Venezuela and most of Central America were destroyed by covid. They have nothing there. The world need to invest in that area and mostly us because they are flooding our country.
 
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You didn't answer. You still made excuses for Trump. Either highlight it all or you're being selective/politicial. It's pretty simple.

You do understand why we have so many immigrants coming here? I know you were told that it's only because of Biden policies. That's not true. Venezuela and most of Central America were destroyed by covid. They have nothing there. The world need to invest in that area and mostly us because they are flooding our country.
That is not my problem. If your country is a shithole, grow some balls and fix it. Dont come here and bring your bullshit with you.
 
You didn't answer. You still made excuses for Trump. Either highlight it all or you're being selective/politicial. It's pretty simple.

You do understand why we have so many immigrants coming here? I know you were told that it's only because of Biden policies. That's not true. Venezuela and most of Central America were destroyed by covid. They have nothing there. The world need to invest in that area and mostly us because they are flooding our country.
I didn't make excuses for anyone. Trump did a great job, relatively speaking, with the border despite having wall development blocked by the House. If something isn't as big of a problem people aren't going to be as mad about it and there's little to no reason to highlight specific instances. Same reason we haven't seen another George Floyd, people figured out that white cops hunting down and killing black men isn't an epidemic.

I love you're reasoning here - it's batspit insane. Venezuela was ruined by leftist policies. The economy was thriving until the gov't shifted to socialism. People are coming here because:
1) Biden is welcoming them, both in policy and in words
2) Their govt's have destroyed the economy, crime is rampant, and they want a better life (speaking for the non-gang members like the guy who beat Laken Riley to death, they're just here because there's more to steal and they - under Biden - cannot be held in jail for most crimes).

Sure Covid was harder on countries with poor conditions to start with, but that wasn't the core problem.
 
Would you say "well my child was murdered but it's ok because Trump is trying". Seriously, think before you post people. I am actually surprised that you would try to down play a murder. You always seemed more balanced.
Laken's parents are certainly taking the opposite side of this argument...

 
Most of it was nothing but lies. They don't even deport the ones who commit felonies.

Correct sir. The whole thing is by design. Yet @kalimgoodman is mad about it being brought up.

Not mad that there is a young lady that will never see another moment. Not mad that Joe has open borders, policies, and an invitation to illegals that caused this. Rather, mad that I pointed it put.

You can’t make this up.
 
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So you only care when it's under a democrat? People like you make me sick TBH. Don't use people deaths for political gains or what you think would be gain. Your last comment even proves that its about politics. Man you're sad.

So you only care if it happens on Trumps watch, and if there is a certain amount of melanin in the skin?

So it’s literally politics and race for you.
The hell with peoples safety and lives.


Disgusting.


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So you only care if it happens on Trumps watch, and if there is a certain amount of melanin in the skin?

So it’s literally politics and race for you.
The hell with peoples safety and lives.


Disgusting.


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I never said that I care at all. It's about when YOU chose to care, since you're whining and bitching about it.
 
I never said that I care at all. It's about when YOU chose to care, since you're whining and bitching about it.


Sure you did. You were fully on board with George Floyd being used…but here you are now. 🪤. You make this too easy.

 
Sure you did. You were fully on board with George Floyd being used…but here you are now. 🪤. You make this too easy.

I NEVER said that I am ok with. I actually said that I wasn't ok with. Why didn't you link that?

For the people that won't click on the link you provided, I was giving a reason for the black turnout. Giving a reason for something and my personal views are not the same.

That would be like, if you explain why a QB made a certain decision on a pass at a press conference. It doesn't mean that you agree with the decision but you can explain his decision to media.
 
I NEVER said that I am ok with. I actually said that I wasn't ok with. Why didn't you link that?

For the people that won't click on the link you provided, I was giving a reason for the black turnout. Giving a reason for something and my personal views are not the same.

That would be like, if you explain why a QB made a certain decision on a pass at a press conference. It doesn't mean that you agree with the decision but you can explain his decision to media.

Uhuh.

Say their names…



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You can talk about immigration and not selectively use people deaths for gains. Those family don't care who was the president. They just know that they lost a loved one because of an illegal immigrant.

Would you say "well my child was murdered but it's ok because Trump is trying". Seriously, think before you post people. I am actually surprised that you would try to down play a murder. You always seemed more balanced.

Actually they do care. That’s why they went to the SOTU. They lost a daughter because Joe and the left care more about maintaining power than innocent lives. Be better.

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It's sad that you guys are using her death for political gains. You guys tried that with Molly Tibbets until her family spoke out against it. If Biden wins, you guys will never speak of Laken Riley again. The republican party is very consistent with their playbook.
Won't need to if the problem goes away.

You think if law enforcement fixes its act we'll ever hear about George Floyd dumb ass ever again?
 
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