7 states; 7 losses…

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

7 states, 7 losses and I am the one gaslighting myself? Wake up.

It’s a loser - everywhere.

Wake up, Ghost and the right over dying, literally politically, on this hill.

Trump ran on two issues: Build the wall, and kill abortion.

If abortion was really an issue that was killing republicans, then Trump would have never made it to the Iowa primaries in 2015. Instead, he WALKED to the Presidency.

That alone proves you have no idea what you are talking about.

Abortion is a huge deal to you. It's settled law now to most Americans.

Trump wasn't on the ticket last night, and he wasn't heavily campaigning for any of the candidates that apparently were. That's why no one noticed what happened.

I suggest you ask God to advise you on this issue. The Bible is quite clear on what happens to people who don't protect God's children.

 

[gator1776]

GOP needs to get out of the no abortion business if they want to win ...

Agreed. It’s allowing the extremes of the Democrat party to win over and over again, and it is killing this country, which will eventually lead to far more children suffering.

 

[GatorTheo]

Only because the Repubs refuse to talk about it. They shouldn't just let the Dems lie about 100% bans. They should be saying some like: The DEMS want abortion up to and even after birth. We need common sense restrictions, 15 weeks (Or what ever # makes sense) with exceptions for the mother's health, rape, etc.

Republicans want to avoid the topic because they are scared that if they're not hardcore anti-abortion, they will lose the religious vote.

 

[FresnoGator]

Agreed. It’s allowing the extremes of the Democrat party to win over and over again, and it is killing this country, which will eventually lead to far more children suffering.

I'm a libertarian for the most part and abortion is not an issue that move the needle for me. If you want to put some limits on late term stuff that's fine but all in all my opinion is informed by the movie / book freakonomics. I want government to stay out of my business as much as possible ...

 

[goldmom]

Did we fix voter fraud? Did we even address it, or did we just “move on”? Amazing how bad the current GOP is without Trump on the ballot.

Again, abortion didn’t get where it is overnight, and it’s a fight worth continuing and fighting for. It took decades for the left to shift the narrative of killing babies. Years of complacency by the right aided this fight.

There is Nothing more important than protecting innocent lives. It will take time to shift the narrative, but it will happen.

Once people stop being ignorant and realizing putting food on their table is much more important than getting a second right to choose. Once people realize not allowing terrorist and fentanyl through the border is more important than a one night stand. Just to name a couple of higher priorities.

Sorry, but this just shows the ignorance of the Americans today. IMO.

The bigger issue?

The GOP isn’t listening to their constituents, and they continue to let the Establishment run the show. Until they listen to their constituents and fix systemic voter fraud and how the party does it’s business, this will continue. How long will the party let the blood of Romney, run the RNC into the ground while doing very little of anything? Pubs were outspent 2 to 1 in the races you mentioned.

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Speaking of tax dollars and abortion. I guess, as a conservative, you do have interest in tax dollars going to fund peoples bad CHOICES? Good to know, “conservative” hypocrisy continues to make me laugh.

How much government money does Planned Parenthood receive?

Over 40% of Planned Parenthood revenue comes from government reimbursements and grants.

usafacts.org

Been inhaling exhaust fumes again, Russ?

 

[goldmom]

Republicans want to avoid the topic because they are scared that if they're not hardcore anti-abortion, they will lose the religious vote.

And because these Bible toters are always in their faces they mistakenly think they’ve got big numbers behind them.
Wrong.

 

[goldmom]

Brilliant yet wasted on the people in here, who long ago drank the Kool-Aid.

And there are “posters” on here who have this ever shrinking group of angry disaffected sheep hoodwinked on issues. Centered on a man about on their country.

 

[goldmom]

So, let’s see if we can agree with each other.

The Republicans are TERRIBLE at the ground game. I agree with all of your points.

The right also gets SLAUGHTERED on Abortion - in republican states!

Why? Because it is government interfering with individual choice (up to 23 weeks).

Again, is Rashida Talib’s choice up to that point SO important that you would be willing to lose elections including the presidency? Really?

For me - hell no. Hell no. We need strong borders, reduced inflation and reduced crime.

He’s a paid troll. He has to continue selling his 💩💩💩.

 

[kjfreeze]

….so can we agree, or are you continue to die on that hill again, and again, and again, and aga

GOP needs to get out of the no abortion business if they want to win ...

BAD mistake. You are correct when viewing this whole thing in a horizontal, humanistic perspective, but my God is a miracle worker. If the GOP defended life 100%, pushed and promoted it as a Christian perspective, that will have God's blessings all over it. To slough off life to a political stance just to win is a terrible policy. Not only is life of the unborn at stake, so are the souls of everyone who votes this way of death.

 

[FresnoGator]

BAD mistake. You are correct when viewing this whole thing in a horizontal, humanistic perspective, but my God is a miracle worker. If the GOP defended life 100%, pushed and promoted it as a Christian perspective, that will have God's blessings all over it. To slough off life to a political stance just to win is a terrible policy. Not only is life of the unborn at stake, so are the souls of everyone who votes this way of death.

Then I will just leave it up to G-d and stay out of it. I just don't care what other people do with their lives and the decisions they make as long as it doesn't affect others ...

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Republicans want to avoid the topic because they are scared that if they're not hardcore anti-abortion, they will lose the religious vote.

Who are they going to lose votes to? Democrats who believe that you should be able to kill a baby after it is born? Sorry...uninformed again. However the reason republicans are NOT doing well on this issue was mentioned above.


"Only because the Repubs refuse to talk about it. They shouldn't just let the Dems lie about 100% bans. They should be saying some like: The DEMS want abortion up to and even after birth. We need common sense restrictions, 15 weeks (Or what ever # makes sense) with exceptions for the mother's health, rape, etc."



^^^^^ THIS is why they are losing votes. Dim wts are doing a GREAT job of controlling the narrative.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Agreed. It’s allowing the extremes of the Democrat party to win over and over again, and it is killing this country, which will eventually lead to far more children suffering.

You are correct...again...Nikki Halley has it right here. We need to find an acceptable middle ground. The far right and far left answers are ridiculous

 

[goldmom]

BAD mistake. You are correct when viewing this whole thing in a horizontal, humanistic perspective, but my God is a miracle worker. If the GOP defended life 100%, pushed and promoted it as a Christian perspective, that will have God's blessings all over it. To slough off life to a political stance just to win is a terrible policy. Not only is life of the unborn at stake, so are the souls of everyone who votes this way of death.

Your beliefs are fine, and you sir are allowed to hold them in this country.
But you don’t seem to grasp the fact that this is a country for all men/women, not just the folks who share your beliefs.
If this site were a chandelier you wouldn’t be the brightest bulb.
Bless your heart.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Your beliefs are fine, and you sir are allowed to hold them in this country.
But you don’t seem to grasp the fact that this is a country for all men/women, not just the folks who share your beliefs.
If this site were a chandelier you wouldn’t be the brightest bulb.
Bless your heart.

I LOLOLOL reading this from a FSU fan. Fuggin HILLARIOUS!!

 

[ghost_of_ukalum1988]

Spot on

The truth about yesterday's off year election. Once dark red Virginia has moved blue because immigrants and federal bureaucrats have flooded into Northern Virginia, which has changed the state politically. In Kentucky, Cameron lost not because Trump endorsed him, as obsessively stupid Trump-hater Chris Christie claims, but because he is a Mitch McConnell protege (McConnell is a Gerald Ford protege) who was not a forceful advocate of conservative principles and Biden's failures. This should be a lesson for Republicans, i.e., RINOs have no winnable message. Republicans will continue to lose on the abortion issue because the Democrat Party and their surrogates spend for more on TV ads than the GOP spends on this issue, and the Democrats use those funds to lie about their true policy, which is abortion until birth, no parental notification, and virtually no regulation at all, and lie about their opponents hating women. The point is people are voting on the propaganda they are being fed not the actual issue.

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This is true regarding Cameron. In the Louisville media market, the Democrats ran ads tying Cameron to McConnell, not Trump, although there were also some ads tying him to Trump as well.

Cameron lost statewide by about 65K votes. Beshear carried Jefferson County (Louisville) by a little over 100K, and Fayette County (Lexington) by about 45k votes. From what Ky-based posters have stated on the UK board, there is no reason to believe there any election shenanigans (apart from a few isolated incidents that didn't effect the outcome.)

Cameron is a bona fide conservative but he didn't run an effective campaign. The Dems poured tremendous resources into helping Beshear get re-elected, whereas the GOP gave Cameron comparatively lesser support.

 

[gator1776]

I'm a libertarian for the most part and abortion is not an issue that move the needle for me. If you want to put some limits on late term stuff that's fine but all in all my opinion is informed by the movie / book freakonomics. I want government to stay out of my business as much as possible ...

I’m basically the same

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

BAD mistake. You are correct when viewing this whole thing in a horizontal, humanistic perspective, but my God is a miracle worker. If the GOP defended life 100%, pushed and promoted it as a Christian perspective, that will have God's blessings all over it. To slough off life to a political stance just to win is a terrible policy. Not only is life of the unborn at stake, so are the souls of everyone who votes this way of death.

Yep. People putting human limitations on what can happen don't seem to fully appreciate God's power.

He will manifest that power for us when we glorify Him and do His will.

Does anyone here truly think that God wants us to embrace abortions as pseudo birth control?

We all know better.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

This is true regarding Cameron. In the Louisville media market, the Democrats ran ads tying Cameron to McConnell, not Trump, although there were also some ads tying him to Trump as well.

Cameron is a bona fide conservative but he didn't run an effective campaign. The Dems poured tremendous resources into helping Beshear get re-elected, whereas the GOP gave Cameron comparatively lesser support.

These two points tell us what is happening, if we read between the lines.

Pubs that align with Trump, get less funding from the RNC.

Dems don't want to attach a candidate to Trump, for fear that Trump's massive popularity will bleed over onto that candidate.

If you squint your eyes and tilt your head sideways....it almost looks like the pubs are working in the best interests of the dems, doesn't it?

Or maybe it was abortion.

 

[kjfreeze]

Your beliefs are fine, and you sir are allowed to hold them in this country.
But you don’t seem to grasp the fact that this is a country for all men/women, not just the folks who share your beliefs.
If this site were a chandelier you wouldn’t be the brightest bulb.
Bless your heart.

I'm not here trying to convince you spiritually. That's a flawed attempt, to me. Heck, you are/were Catholic, correct? Yet you compromise issues that are at the heart of Christianity. You belittle me like a child. I'm okay. I can take it. If you wouldn't do that, then I'm doing something wrong. I will stand up to this concept of 100% pro life. I just can't see my God (AND YOURS WHETHER YOU BELIEVE OR NOT IS YOUR OPTION, but He's still GOD of all) compromising on the killing of His children. Sacrifice the innocence few for the possibility of saving the many? Nah, standing up for the ONE truth - it's the ONLY option.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I'm not here trying to convince you spiritually. That's a flawed attempt, to me. Heck, you are/were Catholic, correct? Yet you compromise issues that are at the heart of Christianity. You belittle me like a child. I'm okay. I can take it. If you wouldn't do that, then I'm doing something wrong. I will stand up to this concept of 100% pro life. I just can't see my God (AND YOURS WHETHER YOU BELIEVE OR NOT IS YOUR OPTION, but He's still GOD of all) compromising on the killing of His children. Sacrifice the innocence few for the possibility of saving the many? Nah, standing up for the ONE truth - it's the ONLY option.

So my personal belief are as yours. HOWEVER...why do people that do not believe in God have to believe the way we do? I really like Trump's path....put this in the states hands. This is how our Constitutional Republic is supposed to work. In our lifetime I can guarantee two things that will never happen. Those are what the far right and far left want concerning abortion. The right: BAN abortions for all. The left: Kill the baby even after birth...woman's choice. These things will NEVER in a MILLION years happen federally.

 

[RussellCasse]

I see extremist “moderates”. They’re everywhere.

Winning to them means nominating Republicans, that are Democrats. Because the R by the name means the most to them.

We are a long ways from any meaningful change as long as people still don’t realize that if it walks like a duck, and talks like a duck….it’s a damn duck.

This isn’t difficult, and yet for some….it is.

Again, Trump literally campaigned on putting judges in place that would eliminate Roe V Wade. Yet here we are, everyone saying we need Romney.

The media and the left are literally laughing at how easily they can manipulate “moderates”.

The party of compromise keeps losing, and they will continue to do so. Republican turnout was abysmal yesterday. Why? Because most have realized that if they are all the same, why vote.

The hell of it? The left is going to try and make abortion their focus regardless. The Right just needs to effectively communicate the priorities and narrative better. At this point, if you walk away from abortion it will do more harm than good. You want to see even less turnout? Walk away from evangelicals.

Keep those porches occupied folks.

 

[GhostOfMatchesMalone]

Again, Trump literally campaigned on putting judges in place that would eliminate Roe V Wade. Yet here we are, everyone saying we need Romney.

Yep. Happens every time WITHOUT FAIL.

The RINOs say we gotta go back to embracing RINO values, the media says we are hurting our chances cause we wont, the hand-wringers chime in 'Oh oh....they are saying mean things about us! Just drop abortion and MAKE IT STOP!!!!', and off we go.

 

[nail1988]

 

[NavigatorII]

Only because the Repubs refuse to talk about it. They shouldn't just let the Dems lie about 100% bans. They should be saying some like: The DEMS want abortion up to and even after birth. We need common sense restrictions, 15 weeks (Or what ever # makes sense) with exceptions for the mother's health, rape, etc.

I was running some errands today and some dude on Kilmeade dressed down Kilmeade pretty roughly today. Says Roe V Wade is now a state's issue like it should have always been, and that limitations on abortion are reasonable. I can't wrap my head around why Democrats think spiking the baby from the delivery room to the dumpster is somehow a good idea. #1 Take precautions #2, 15-16 weeks to decide is plenty of time. Beyond that is insane. That's well beyond the first trimester.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I was running some errands today and some dude on Kilmeade dressed down Kilmeade pretty roughly today. Says Roe V Wade is now a state's issue like it should have always been, and that limitations on abortion are reasonable. I can't wrap my head around why Democrats think spiking the baby from the delivery room to the dumpster is somehow a good idea. #1 Take precautions #2, 15-16 weeks to decide is plenty of time. Beyond that is insane. That's well beyond the first trimester.

This is my personal beliefs..however I still think states should be able to adjust this. There IS a point wher eit is murder to me. Murder has nothing to do with religion...so there HAS to be a date that you should not go past from inception.

 

[nothergator]

Writ broadly: it’s not fixing voting mechanism, it’s fixing borders. Tucker knows this and spoke to it pretty directly.

These states where the issue is losing are republicans strongholds. Ohio, Kansas - all were for getting government out of people’s lives.

Demographic shift has fundamentally changed elections.

Fix borders. Win elections. Fix borders.

I want to win elections. Nothing is more important, to be clear than my happiness, my choices, my money and my safety.

Trump, by the way. wants to move miles away from this issue. He hates it - he’s knows it’s a loser.

If Rashida Talib wants to abort her baby, whatever you or I may think of it, that is between her, her husband, her priest and god. This is NOT more important than the above.

Seven states; seven losses. Need to move on and get to conservative principles of individual rights and choices.

I am a diehard conservative Repub but I agree with you on this issue. Killing/abortion is a moral issue and it is well known that you can't legislate morality -- by the way I am against killing. One other point anyone who puts abortion as more important than the economy or an open border or constant wars is just plain ignorant, I am also concerned that we have not fixed the cheating in our elections cause you can't fix stupid.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

I am a diehard conservative Repub but I agree with you on this issue. Killing/abortion is a moral issue and it is well known that you can't legislate morality -- by the way I am against killing. One other point anyone who puts abortion as more important than the economy or an open border or constant wars is just plain ignorant, I am also concerned that we have not fixed the cheating in our elections cause you can't fix stupid.

HEAR HEAR!!! So agree!

 

[nail1988]

lots of GOP victories

Ohio had dope on the ballot and brought out the young skulls of mush to vote

Northern Virginia is full of swamp creatures and Kommies

Kantuck GOP ran a McConnell hand pick RINO who didn’t inspire the base and go after Biden he was mush ( GOP crus all the down ballot races)

the GOP needs to reframe the debate on abortion against the mengale party who is more heinous and brutal on abortion than North Korea and China. SCOTUS a did the right thing sending it back to the states it’s federalism

 

[NavigatorII]

GOP needs to get out of the no abortion business if they want to win ...

It's a state's issue now. So you are correct.

 

[ghost_of_ukalum1988]

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Why Andy Beshear Won in Kentucky | National Review

The state legislature is so Republican that it doesn’t really matter who the governor is.

www.nationalreview.com

From the article:
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……thanks to the overwhelming Republican advantage in the state legislature, the people of Kentucky are able to get Republican policy while having a Democratic governor. There are 38 members of Kentucky’s state senate; 31 of them are Republicans. There are 100 members of Kentucky’s House; 80 of them are Republicans. That’s not just supermajority control; that’s super-supermajority control. In Kentucky, the legislature can override a veto with a simple majority of the total number of elected members in each chamber. There is, as a result, no plausible circumstance in which the Republicans will lose a fight with the governor.

During this year’s session, the state legislature overrode every single veto that Beshear offered up.

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I had forgotten just how much the GOP dominated the Ky state legislature. I think there was a lot of apathy and an enthusiastic gap between Cameron & Beshear. It sucks to admit it, but Beshear is relatively popular across the commonwealth.

 

[ghost_of_ukalum1988]

This has a been painful thread in many ways. I’m still staunchly pro life, but it’s clear the current pro-life messaging, voter turnout, candidate selection, etc on the part of the GOP calls for some serious soul searching.

I subscribe to the Buckley principle of electing the most conservative candidate. The feckless leadership of the RNC does not inspire confidence going forward.

 

[RussellCasse]

Why Andy Beshear Won in Kentucky | National Review

The state legislature is so Republican that it doesn’t really matter who the governor is.

www.nationalreview.com

From the article:
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……thanks to the overwhelming Republican advantage in the state legislature, the people of Kentucky are able to get Republican policy while having a Democratic governor. There are 38 members of Kentucky’s state senate; 31 of them are Republicans. There are 100 members of Kentucky’s House; 80 of them are Republicans. That’s not just supermajority control; that’s super-supermajority control. In Kentucky, the legislature can override a veto with a simple majority of the total number of elected members in each chamber. There is, as a result, no plausible circumstance in which the Republicans will lose a fight with the governor.

During this year’s session, the state legislature overrode every single veto that Beshear offered up.

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I had forgotten just how much the GOP dominated the Ky state legislature. I think there was a lot of apathy and an enthusiastic gap between Cameron & Beshear. It sucks to admit it, but Beshear is relatively popular across the commonwealth.

Yep. That and From what I understand Kentucky has only had 3 Republican governors in their History?

Apparently Kentuckians had the foresight for hundreds of years that A Republican supreme court would eventually overturn Roe V wade one day. It’s the only explanation for having so few Republican Governors historically.

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Was lazy, you get the idea.

 

[RussellCasse]

I subscribe to the Buckley principle of electing the most conservative candidate. The feckless leadership of the RNC does not inspire confidence going forward.

Agreed. IMO the problem is we keep selecting the same moderate idiots over and over, and then wonder why the base doesn’t show up. Then they blame it on some silly social issue.

I mean, the Blood of Romney has been the head of the RNC for how many failed election cycles now? I am certain she is very happy to have people blaming abortion.

If I were a politician, I would be happy as hell to have people blaming that instead of holding me accountable.

Like I said earlier, there is no walking away from the issue now. The left is going to use it. So we better get America first candidates that can articulate their own narrative and why that should be a priority. Because running as a pro baby murdering conservative is absurd. The base will do what they did this cycle. Stay home.

 

[ghost_of_ukalum1988]

Yep. That and From what I understand Kentucky has only had 3 Republican governors in their History?

Apparently Kentuckians had the foresight for hundreds of years that A Republican supreme court would eventually overturn Roe V wade one day. It’s the only explanation for having so few Republican Governors historically.

Lickingwindows.gif

Was lazy, you get the idea.

We had a couple GOP governors during the Reconstruction era, but only three since then. The failure to elect GOP governors in Ky in the current era is a huge failure and a sore subject.

 

[goldmom]

I'm not here trying to convince you spiritually. That's a flawed attempt, to me. Heck, you are/were Catholic, correct? Yet you compromise issues that are at the heart of Christianity. You belittle me like a child. I'm okay. I can take it. If you wouldn't do that, then I'm doing something wrong. I will stand up to this concept of 100% pro life. I just can't see my God (AND YOURS WHETHER YOU BELIEVE OR NOT IS YOUR OPTION, but He's still GOD of all) compromising on the killing of His children. Sacrifice the innocence few for the possibility of saving the many? Nah, standing up for the ONE truth - it's the ONLY option.

Thus my saying you are free to believe what you want.

 

[nail1988]

 

[goldmom]

Everything is fraud! It’s all fraud! You cheated!
You people are just flat out ridiculous- and so easily led.

 

[Capt Ron 1]

Everything is fraud! It’s all fraud! You cheated!
You people are just flat out ridiculous- and so easily led.

From a FSU fan the. Choose armpit of Fla Tallywacker to live! LOLOL

 

[RussellCasse]

From a FSU fan the. Choose armpit of Fla Tallywacker to live! LOLOL

She lives in lala land.

Ignorance is bliss.

After everything that’s occurred in the past few years it takes a special kind of….

To believe the things she believes.

 

[NavigatorII]

Everything is fraud! It’s all fraud! You cheated!
You people are just flat out ridiculous- and so easily led.

😂