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See my prior post. I was pretty specific
Will true marriage return to America via Texas?
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See my Bolded sentences above. Babylon 5 is now in production to return to television on the CW network by original creator, J. Michael Straczynski. The CW deal with JMS includes a no control clause put in his contract by JMS. It means the ONLY One who has control over the content of the new Babylon 5 is JMS himself. You can google it or look it up on Deadline Hollywood.
I can't wait!!!
Oh, MY, GOD!! Insta and I agree we both love Baylon 5. It IS a Christmas Miricle!
Not to spoil this magic moment, but I bet we disagree on who represents the Shadow organization. I don't care, I don't care!! A Miricle HAS formed this Christmas.
I am starting to see a pattern. The problem is I really would love to have a respectful conversation about this topic and try and learn from another point of view. Whenever I try, usually it ends up in the other party either leaving the conversation or resorting to name calling or attacking because they cannot typically defend their point of view from even a logical perspective. I am not trying to make someone look stupid, but really would like to see where we can agree and where we can agree to disagree provided there is a cohesive logical point to the other opinion. Too often, virtually every time, I find out the alternative perspective is based on feelings and desires for an ultimate conclusion, rather than a coherent logical thought process. Only time will tell if this occasion is any different.
At the end of the day, it does not impact me. I know what I believe and why and can defend it using both logic, reasoning, and a cohesive worldview. I get tired of people claiming my belief system is based only an outdated religious book written thousands of years ago and that science has disproven it when the reality is that the scientific method and all logical thought processes tends to support it far more than any other philosophical point of view. No one has yet been able to demonstrate otherwise with any intellectual honesty.
You guys are so strange. I wrote twice that I was taking Sunday off to wrap presents and go see Spiderman (which was incredible, by the way). I actually didn't plan to be writing something more to Mike because I said most of what I wanted to say. I will on Tuesday, however, address some points to his rebuttal.
I think Mike, after I wrote my rebuttal to your rebuttal (LOL) I was pretty much finished with what I wanted to say. However, you wanted more debate. I think getting to the point where we prioritize our arguments based on our individual value systems just is a waste of time. We can go round & round about that, but for what?
I realized when I wrote my rebuttal you would be disappointed because I was ending our debate for the reasons I gave in my post. you clearly want to debate more to perhaps, win the debate. I think for the reasons I gave in my post, the debate is unwinnable because our arguments are based more on our value systems and personal points of view.
There are, of course, some facts and details we can spew out; however, this is unwinnable, in my opinion, because what we believe is what really drives this additional conversation. What we believe, often is not based on specific facts, but on how we see the world. That is why this debate is unwinnable.
However, I did say I would respond, to elements of your rebuttal, and I will do so Tuesday.
When did this become a debate? Why would I want to win? I thought we were having a conversation about how we viewed this issue. This is not a court of law where someone is declared a winner and the other a loser.
Frankly, I am disappointed because I thought you might actually have a logical basis for your belief system. Based on the representations and statements made in this post before, I anticipated you had thought through this issue thoroughly and could enter into a dialogue with me where we could try and figure out where our points of disagreement were and how we could try to see each other's positions. I even agreed to abandon any claims related to religious dogma and use strict logic.
Unfortunately, your responses were based on conclusions you wanted to reach, not any appreciable logical thought process, at least not that I could detect. I was simply probing to see if your point of view had cohesion as I am always trying to engage others to try and point out flaws in my own thinking as I am seeking the truth, not only trying to find facts to fit a narrative or support a conclusion I have already decided I want.
Please understand, I am not attacking nor trying to belittle you in any way. I just thought I was pretty open about why I wanted to engage in this dialogue and believe I have done so respectfully and with an open mind. If you do not want to continue examining each other's point of view and potentially learning from each other, that is your choice. I was hoping for some challenging questions from you and well-reasoned, articulate, and logical basis for your beliefs in order to better understand this vast divide in society. If that is not to be, then I wish you nothing but the best in the future with absolutely no ill-will or animosity and wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas.
Whatever gets you out of the basement, Sir.
Dr. Curmudgeon,
Sometimes, I feel on this board I AM in the basement -LOL. But luckily, it's not very long till I scurry up to the top of the building again.
Mr Oh-No is so mentally deficient in so many ways...
The Rats spent 5 years doing their character assignation on Trump, while he was doing more for American than any President in my long lifetime, through his MAGA + Constitution + In God We Trust Platform.
(equated to VP Clark's (B-5) literal assignation of the President in order to take the office)
Then President Clark uses the Psy-Corp and insiders he owns (MSM Propagandists) to take over the government and hide or cover up his criminal actions.
And since the military didn't overthrow Trump like they eventually did Clark in B-5, I'd be the one with the correct identification of who the real 'Shadow' government is in this comparison.
While your own shallow views don't even think about the many other areas of comparison from the B-5 universe, to the here and now....
Medical Scamdemic here - (plague on B-5)
Strict observance of the Constitution vs loyalty to an un-elected dictator.
(mail in fraud - vote collator machine fraud, resulting in un-elected frauds in office)
A President making back-door deals with Evil to get and remain in office.
(Clark + Shadows = Beijing Biden + China + Clinton Crime Family)
The depth and subtly of the shows content are far beyond your own ability to understand.
Much like you inability (or knowledgeable lies) when it comes to the current U.S. problems.
This will be a remake of the original shows, not an extension or continuation of the original.
I will look to see if they can maintain the quality of the scrips, and if so, then fine with me.
I already have the complete original series plus the extras.
PS
They did a DUNE remake that stinks on ice imo.
While the original movie had it's negative points, the new one is crap, even with the modernization in special affects. They continued to leave out the best parts of Frank Herbert's writing.
They might have had a better chance, IF they had done a B-5 like years long TV series.
The Rats spent 5 years doing their character assignation on Trump, while he was doing more for American than any President in my long lifetime, through his MAGA + Constitution + In God We Trust Platform.
(equated to VP Clark's (B-5) literal assignation of the President in order to take the office)
Then President Clark uses the Psy-Corp and insiders he owns (MSM Propagandists) to take over the government and hide or cover up his criminal actions.
And since the military didn't overthrow Trump like they eventually did Clark in B-5, I'd be the one with the correct identification of who the real 'Shadow' government is in this comparison.
While your own shallow views don't even think about the many other areas of comparison from the B-5 universe, to the here and now....
Medical Scamdemic here - (plague on B-5)
Strict observance of the Constitution vs loyalty to an un-elected dictator.
(mail in fraud - vote collator machine fraud, resulting in un-elected frauds in office)
A President making back-door deals with Evil to get and remain in office.
(Clark + Shadows = Beijing Biden + China + Clinton Crime Family)
The depth and subtly of the shows content are far beyond your own ability to understand.
Much like you inability (or knowledgeable lies) when it comes to the current U.S. problems.
This will be a remake of the original shows, not an extension or continuation of the original.
I will look to see if they can maintain the quality of the scrips, and if so, then fine with me.
I already have the complete original series plus the extras.
PS
They did a DUNE remake that stinks on ice imo.
While the original movie had it's negative points, the new one is crap, even with the modernization in special affects. They continued to leave out the best parts of Frank Herbert's writing.
They might have had a better chance, IF they had done a B-5 like years long TV series.
I love the P.S. about Dune & B-5 while you call me out with names -LOL. You are a trip.
Though, I do not agree with your analogy in many ways, I appreciate the amount of work you put into that.
I will make two comments about Trump: Nobody has damaged his character as much as Trump himself. Additionally, when one talks about back door deals, the Trump Presidency (including family) is rife with them.
Never read the book then, did you. The movie is damn near a shot for shot remake, minus the commentary from Princess Irulan. The Fremen are basically Muslims, what did you expect??? Plus, they haven't even started filming part two yet. I'd reserve judgement until you see the entire film.
I watched both...I think the original was better even though it was hard to follow sometimes...never read the book...I do like the new one and definitely want to see the sequel.
This link would help you immensely in understanding, but I'm pretty sure that you already have all of the understanding that you can contain and don't want anything to disturb your own version of reality...
Pearson Sharp Reports – One America News Network
www.oann.com
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Never could get into the United Nations in space B-5 or even its knock-off DS9. I am more of a Space western guy...Buck Rogers, Battlestar Galactica TOS, Star Trek TOS. I did like Star Trek NG even though Data was not as good as Spock and Picard was a mangina compared to Kirk.
When I go back and watch Space 1999 , I feel it was highbrow for its time but its 1970s pseudoscience did not age well.
My favorite though is the original Star Wars trilogy. Part space opera, part space western and part medieval fantasy
Wow, that site is toxic! How do you stand it?This link would help you immensely in understanding, but I'm pretty sure that you already have all of the understanding that you can contain and don't want anything to disturb your own version of reality...
Pearson Sharp Reports – One America News Network
You do realize they are releasing any information that's available in real time now, though.
I have read Frank's entire series multiple times with a different color highlighter each time.
My books look like a rainbow now. From Children of Dune:
You have loved Caladan
and lamented it's lost host....
But pain discovers
New lovers cannot erase
Those forever ghost
~~ Refrain from the Habbanya Lament
And I've read every one of his son's many additional books.
I just finished reading 'Mentats of Dune' again.
EW, each to his own opinions on DUNE (the movies), and anything else in existence.
I have mine and I stated it.
You have your's and you stated it.
I doubt that those two opinions will ever meet, but that's okay wid me.
However, something you might have missed, that was my point in my post.
I'm saying that neither old nor new did a good job of representing Frank's story on film.
And as to the Special Effects, I liked the new, way more realistic thopters, but that was about it for me. Also, being old and having to use hearing aids in an echo chamber theater didn't help. For me, their sound track left a lot to be desired. I'll give it another try when it's available on DVD and I can re-watch it in my own living room with the sound piped directly into my ears through my hearing aids.
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Define Toxic, and then give examples of that kind of toxic on OAN.
Otherwise, that's just more ignorant drivel being spewed outta your partisan mouth.
OAN has the same information, but since you have an ignorant partisan objection to them, here's another for ya.
The Food and Drug Administration is requesting a federal judge grant them a full 75 years to review and publish the safety data for Pfizer's China virus vaccine.
MIT Scientist Criticizing COVID Vaccines, and Elite Athletes Dropping Like Flies.
Elite Athletes are Dropping Like Flies. Turns out the "vaccines" are effective at something...
Here’s an incomplete list of mostly young athletes, professional and amateur from various sports who are by all accounts the fittest, healthiest people on the planet, and probably the least likely to ever need a “vaccine” for a virus they would survive 100% of the time and yet are suffering (or suffered) the same post-vaccine fate: cardiac arrest, blood clots and/or death.
Elite Athletes are Dropping Like Flies. Turns out the "vaccines" are effective at something
Recently vaccinated Danish Football Star Christian Eriksen collapses on the pitch from cardiac arrest in a Euro 2020 match. (June 12, 2021) Here’s an incomplete list of mostly young athletes, professional and amateur from various sports who are by all accounts the fittest, healthiest people on...
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I generally agree with you more than I disagree with you, but I think THUS FAR the movie is on point.
I watched the movie on my 50" HDTV with Bludieo UFO plus 5.1 stereo bluetooth headphones. I've got a fair amount of hearing damage from 8 years sitting next to a 903 cubic inch Cummins turbo diesel. I'd suggest investing in a set of dolby 5.1 headphones, the new spatial engineering and multiple speakers within each earphone is game changing.
Didnt watch that one. I mean to do it someday.
But I did watch Blakes 7 made by one Terry Nation of Dr Who fame.
Much like movies like the Lord of the Rings, they have a lot of action, but very little depth or character development to them. The Dune movies are much the same. Can't capture it in 2, 2 hour movies. That's why I suggested that Dune would be better done as a 5 year weekly TV series, than in movies.
Nothing wrong with the old or the new movies, but they are only what they are, decidedly INADEQUATE to express the full depth of the stories as written.
In this case imo, a picture is not worth, or equal to a thousand words....
Thanks for the audio suggestion EW, but I have hearing aids that run $3,500.00 each. They came with a unit that hooks up directly to my TV/DVD and pipes the sound directly (wireless) into the hearing aids. I have a Bose home theater system and Bose headphones, but the direct input to my Opticon Aids gives me much easier to understand vocal audio. If I want the full depth, then I can still play the Bose in the background until if vibrates the windows and scares the neighbor's dogs. 😁
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Well Mr. OhNo, why the crickets after my response to you?
Define Toxic, and then give examples of that kind of toxic on OAN.
Otherwise, that's just more ignorant drivel being spewed outta your partisan mouth.
OAN has the same information, but since you have an ignorant partisan objection to them, here's another for ya.
The Food and Drug Administration is requesting a federal judge grant them a full 75 years to review and publish the safety data for Pfizer's China virus vaccine.
MIT Scientist Criticizing COVID Vaccines, and Elite Athletes Dropping Like Flies.
Elite Athletes are Dropping Like Flies. Turns out the "vaccines" are effective at something...
Here’s an incomplete list of mostly young athletes, professional and amateur from various sports who are by all accounts the fittest, healthiest people on the planet, and probably the least likely to ever need a “vaccine” for a virus they would survive 100% of the time and yet are suffering (or suffered) the same post-vaccine fate: cardiac arrest, blood clots and/or death.
Elite Athletes are Dropping Like Flies. Turns out the "vaccines" are effective at something
Recently vaccinated Danish Football Star Christian Eriksen collapses on the pitch from cardiac arrest in a Euro 2020 match. (June 12, 2021) Here’s an incomplete list of mostly young athletes, professional and amateur from various sports who are by all accounts the fittest, healthiest people on...www.exposingtheirlies.com
I would challenge you to watch some videos of abortions and see if your stance remains the same.
Only way true marriage returns is if we revamp the tax code, go to a consumption flat tax, and remove government completely from the marriage game (licenses, tax credits etc) and put it back where it belongs. Back in the hands of the Body of Christ. Anything short of that, the answer is no, it won’t return.
Sorry, but less and I mean WAY less government is the only answer.
Sorry, but less and I mean WAY less government is the only answer.
Bump to Mr. OhNo / Cricketman....
Define Toxic, and then give examples of that kind of toxic on OAN.
Otherwise, that's just more ignorant drivel being spewed outta your partisan mouth.
OAN has the same information, but since you have an ignorant partisan objection to them, here's another for ya.
The Food and Drug Administration is requesting a federal judge grant them a full 75 years to review and publish the safety data for Pfizer's China virus vaccine.
MIT Scientist Criticizing COVID Vaccines, and Elite Athletes Dropping Like Flies.
Elite Athletes are Dropping Like Flies. Turns out the "vaccines" are effective at something...
Here’s an incomplete list of mostly young athletes, professional and amateur from various sports who are by all accounts the fittest, healthiest people on the planet, and probably the least likely to ever need a “vaccine” for a virus they would survive 100% of the time and yet are suffering (or suffered) the same post-vaccine fate: cardiac arrest, blood clots and/or death.
Elite Athletes are Dropping Like Flies. Turns out the "vaccines" are effective at something
Recently vaccinated Danish Football Star Christian Eriksen collapses on the pitch from cardiac arrest in a Euro 2020 match. (June 12, 2021) Here’s an incomplete list of mostly young athletes, professional and amateur from various sports who are by all accounts the fittest, healthiest people on...
I agree, which was my initial point of getting the government out of the marriage business all together.
The problem with returning to "true marriage" is that marriage is now being redefined by different groups. If what you mean by true marriage is marriage between one man and one woman who have never been married previously, then that is one definition of marriage based on one religious tradition. Other traditions have different views or marriage including Islam and Mormonism. Previously, Catholics could not remarry if they had been previously divorced.
That is the problem in America with defining marriage via the government. We have so many religious traditions that it is impossible to come to a consensus about what true marriage is using a religious definition. Even using prior societal traditions is problematic as different people groups have had different marriage arrangements for millennia. Shoot, even it the Judeo Christian tradition, David had numerous wives and Solomon had 300 wives and 600 concubines. We can argue all day about what that truly meant and whether a political wife for treaties was the same as a traditional wife, but the point is, in a melting pot like the United States, any definition of marriage using one religious tradition will necessarily be in some opposition to a myriad of other traditional views on marriage. Just because I believe in the Biblical view of marriage does not mean that under American law I should be able to mandate religious definitions of my own choosing on everyone else.
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