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When will democrats come forth with who they will run for President in 2024?

Unless the coming recession starts before Q4 the Democrat will not be winning the election.
And notice, @BamaFan1137, it's not just you. Some Trump supporters don't get it either.

Economic conditions are totally meaningless if the dems can steal elections.

We cannot address the problem, until we all recognize that the problem exists.
 
The first, and most important thing you can do, is admit we need election integrity.

LOL, how many times will I need to admit that before you hear it?

You aren't there yet.

Pretty sure I am.

I asked what can we do to see if you were doing something I wasn't. I absolutely want election integrity...I want Americans to trust their election processes. All Americans.
 
LOL, how many times will I need to admit that before you hear it?



Pretty sure I am.

I asked what can we do to see if you were doing something I wasn't. I absolutely want election integrity...I want Americans to trust their election processes. All Americans.
I think all honest people want that. But that's not the same thing as understanding that we are literally having elections stolen from us right now.

You don't think we are. Until everyone understands that's happening, our vote is completely meaningless. Any discussion of who will win in 2024 is completely meaningless.

The dems will tell us who has won after they finish creating the ballots that reflect their decision.

Until we all understand that, nothing changes.
 
I think all honest people want that. But that's not the same thing as understanding that we are literally having elections stolen from us right now.

You don't think we are. Until everyone understands that's happening, our vote is completely meaningless. Any discussion of who will win in 2024 is completely meaningless.

The dems will tell us who has won after they finish creating the ballots that reflect their decision.

Until we all understand that, nothing changes.

I do believe that elections were stolen. That is my BELIEF.

You need me to pass your test by stating categorically that it happened? Sorry, that's not me. I need proof that they were stolen before I will do that.

I've seen proof of cheating as have you.
 
I do believe that elections were stolen. That is my BELIEF.

You need me to pass your test by stating categorically that it happened? Sorry, that's not me. I need proof that they were stolen before I will do that.

I've seen proof of cheating as have you.
So what do you think the solution is? We believe elections have been and will be stolen, and all we can do is keep on voting?
 
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So what do you think the solution is? We believe elections have been and will be stolen, and all we can do is keep on voting?

No. The only solution that I can come up with though is legislative. And if we're honest, that's tricky as hell too. Almost like a trap tbh.

We can't federalize the elections. That would be falling into that trap. But we have to change the process and make it accountable.
 
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No. The only solution that I can come up with though is legislative. And if we're honest, that's tricky as hell too. Almost like a trap tbh.

We can't federalize the elections. That would be falling into that trap. But we have to change the process and make it accountable.
But that requires we elect legislators who will push through bills that would address cheating. How can we do that if the voting process is being stolen?

I think we saw the answer in the aftermath of the 2020 election: We have to make it harder for them to cheat. The entire reason for the delay in counting was because Trump's support was overwhelming the algorithms of the machines (I'm guessing you don't believe that, but experts have testified this happened in multiple swing states).

I think we need to focus on full and complete machine audits conducted immediately after the election, with results made public. And ballot audits. Doing those things alone would make it much harder for them to get away with the cheating.

And yes, saying something online does matter. If we all start saying the same thing and demanding the same thing, politicians will be forced to address it.
 
But that requires we elect legislators who will push through bills that would address cheating. How can we do that if the voting process is being stolen?

I think we saw the answer in the aftermath of the 2020 election: We have to make it harder for them to cheat. The entire reason for the delay in counting was because Trump's support was overwhelming the algorithms of the machines (I'm guessing you don't believe that, but experts have testified this happened in multiple swing states).

I think we need to focus on full and complete machine audits conducted immediately after the election, with results made public. And ballot audits. Doing those things alone would make it much harder for them to get away with the cheating.

And yes, saying something online does matter. If we all start saying the same thing and demanding the same thing, politicians will be forced to address it.

This would require legislation. I'm not saying that it isn't at least part of the solution, but it won't happen without law.
 
All mail ins need to be counted before election day and results published
100%. If they are going to allow mail voting, cut it off a week before election day, but publish THE DAY of election, not before, not after. Any ballot is received later than the day before election is tossed into the shredder. No more of the bullshit, "let's see how many we need to fabricate" on election day. All states need to adopt that process. But giving the federal government control of state elections is a fools errand. We ALL know how that will end up. I don't think I even need to explain.
 
100%. If they are going to allow mail voting, cut it off a week before election day, but publish THE DAY of election, not before, not after.
They really can't publish actual numbers the day of voting. It could influence voters in areas that are still voting. That's why they don't start posting any numbers on Election Day till after polls close on the West Coast.

But I agree completely with an early cut off BEFORE Election Day. That's the biggest thing, dems have padded the numbers the last two elections (at least) by adding to the mail-in counts.

We have to stop their ability to create ballots on the fly. We will never elect another person to office until this is fixed.
 
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Because it will NOT be this dunce! LOLOL
Capt. Ron, please don't let some dork laugh at you by telling you another lie about Biden approval rating higher than Trumps at same time during presidency. In March 2018, Trump was at 41%, 3 points higher than Biden. Don't be fooled by lies.
 
These are the threads that makes me laugh. Biden approval ratings is higher than Trump's at this same time....
I'm laughing, too. I always check sample data in every poll. A number of polls lately are shortchanging me. Let me guess why. When Trump polling sample data tells me Dimms 560, Pubs 298 and Indepedent 129, I know what job approval to expect.

Reuters/IPSOS recently told me BIden was all the way up to 41% approval while providing me with virtually no sample data. 1069 registered voters.
 
Capt. Ron, please don't let some dork laugh at you by telling you another lie about Biden approval rating higher than Trumps at same time during presidency. In March 2018, Trump was at 41%, 3 points higher than Biden. Don't be fooled by lies.
Wait...so Trump had a higher approval rating at this point than Hiden? In March of 2018, the MSM was telling us that Trump was a Russian agent, and in March of 2023, MSM is telling us Hiden cannot be held responsible for his disastrous policies.

@kalimgoodman did you know this? Trump as a Russian agent has a higher approval rating than Hiden as an American president.
 
I have a correction to make regarding Trump's approval rating at the same point in his presidency as Biden is now. I used March 2018 where Trump was at 41%. I should have used March 2019 as the same time period and looky here. Trump's approval rating is even higher or way higher. The NBC News/WSJ approval rating is at 44% and the RCP average (Real Clear Politics) is even higher at 46%. So Trump was 6 or 8 points higher than Biden is now with his dismal 38%.
But I think a dork in this thread actually knew this, but wanted to tell us just the opposite, that some would say was a lie.

I guess it's understandable that when Biden OWNS you, you'll say anything to make him look better even if it ain't true.
 
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They are absolutely terrified of Trump. I don't know if I've ever seen such political behavior since I've followed politics. Sure, most conservatives hated Kerry, Obama, and the Hildebeast. But if I thought any of them had zero shot of winning an election, I wouldn't waste my every waking moment worrying about them. Trump is an obsessive compulsive disorder with them. They think he has no shot of winning, yet they chase him around like zombies craving brains. 😂 It's totally illogical.

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This is 100% why everyone SHOULD vote for Trump. He is America's only hope
 
No. The only solution that I can come up with though is legislative. And if we're honest, that's tricky as hell too. Almost like a trap tbh.

We can't federalize the elections. That would be falling into that trap. But we have to change the process and make it accountable.
VERY good post, and how I feel. I KNOW they are cheating...however the solution is very difficult, because they control the places where they are cheating
 
Capt. Ron, please don't let some dork laugh at you by telling you another lie about Biden approval rating higher than Trumps at same time during presidency. In March 2018, Trump was at 41%, 3 points higher than Biden. Don't be fooled by lies.
They are chronic liars..we ALL know this
 
And of course KalimGoodman doesn't come back to either admit a mistake on Biden/Trump approval ratings or as is this case, just let's his lie sit there. And he says he never lies. Only on days ending in y.
 
And of course KalimGoodman doesn't come back to either admit a mistake on Biden/Trump approval ratings or as is this case, just let's his lie sit there. And he says he never lies. Only on days ending in y.
Well he also never responds to explaining all the things that are better under the installed idiot, than when Trump was President...because he CANNOT.
 
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