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When will democrats come forth with who they will run for President in 2024?

Outside of those two, you're pissing into the wind. Who here from your "just move on" group, we moderates for example, are against those two things?
I don't think that they are. It's not our states, it's their job to police themselves. Same goes for GA, PA, CA, WS, MI. I think we all hope they clean house and jail the rats, but we have no standing. When you elect crooked judges, you've already lost before the battle's begun.
 
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Bingo. We keep saying 'Well those idiots in CA get what they deserve for continuing to vote for the same idiots!', but why are we assuming they DID vote for these same idiots?

I mean, do we think they can figure out how to steal elections in swing states, but not in CA?

I think it's the opposite. They figure out how to rig them in heavily blue states cause it's easier to hide. Then when they have the system down pat, move it to other states.
Lots of dummies and illegals in CA. i don't think it was rigged per se, except for the ballot harvesting which is legal for now ...
 
I hope her case has real and legal merit and she wins. I'm all for the elections being thoroughly reviewed.

I'm just tired of earthshaking twitter stories that turn into nothing.

So you support her but would rather she just sort of shuts up about it until she has the goods?

I can't say I agree but I think I understand. To get support, to maintain momentum, that requires updates.
 
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So you support her but would rather she just sort of shuts up about it until she has the goods?

I can't say I agree but I think I understand. To get support, to maintain momentum, that requires updates.
Either she has a case or she doesn't.

I don't really care whether she shuts up or not. I don't listen to politicians. I'm sure her followers eat up every word.
 
That's why I don't care for Sean Hannity. All buildup, every "bombshell" is a dud. If it weren't for the content, he could be a Democrat like Adam Schitt. :(
I haven't watched Hannity in years, but even when I did, I clarified, on this board, that the only time I did watch him was when he had a journalist on who I trusted. Otherwise, he's just Jim Hoff with better hair.
 
Either she has a case or she doesn't.

I don't really care whether she shuts up or not. I don't listen to politicians. I'm sure her followers eat up every word.

You understand that it's a process though, right? It's not like she can wave a magic wand.

If someone wrongs you, legally, it may take years for you to get justice. That sucks...but it's reality.
 
I haven't watched Hannity in years, but even when I did, I clarified, on this board, that the only time I did watch him was when he had a journalist on who I trusted. Otherwise, he's just Jim Hoff with better hair.

I haven’t ever watched an entire show. If he's discussing something that I'm interested in, I'll find clips/recaps.
 
Even if that's true, the primaries are a year away. That's several political lifetimes.
That's true, but why in the world do you think the dems are hoping the guy in the lead is who they face?

That's like being the #8 seed in the NCAA tournament and saying you are hoping you face the #16 seed and not the #1 seed LOL

You guys with your TDS. 'Even if that's true' LOL Now you don't believe sources that don't tell you what you want to hear either, do you?
 
That's true, but why in the world do you think the dems are hoping the guy in the lead is who they face?

That's like being the #8 seed in the NCAA tournament and saying you are hoping you face the #16 seed and not the #1 seed LOL

You guys with your TDS. 'Even if that's true' LOL Now you don't believe sources that don't tell you what you want to hear either, do you?

I think the Dems believe that they have a better shot at beating Trump.
 
That's true, but why in the world do you think the dems are hoping the guy in the lead is who they face?

That's like being the #8 seed in the NCAA tournament and saying you are hoping you face the #16 seed and not the #1 seed LOL

You guys with your TDS. 'Even if that's true' LOL Now you don't believe sources that don't tell you what you want to hear either, do you?

You reading from your handlers script?
 
You reading from your handlers script?
Wait, are you still on your kick that dems are paying me to post here that they don't want to face the guy in front by 30 points?

Your political views always overlap 100% with the best interests of the dems. Have you noticed that?

But they still won't pay you to say that. No one will.
 
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That's true, but why in the world do you think the dems are hoping the guy in the lead is who they face?

That's like being the #8 seed in the NCAA tournament and saying you are hoping you face the #16 seed and not the #1 seed LOL

You guys with your TDS. 'Even if that's true' LOL Now you don't believe sources that don't tell you what you want to hear either, do you?
I'm sure the dems realize that moderates are FAR more likely to support DeSantis than Trump.
 
Not talking about supporting her as a candidate (although you should if you support America First platform), I'm talking about supporting her legal case against the 2022 election. It was just sent back to the trial court to re-examine one of her claims.

So there's still a lifeline that something can be done about AZ. If we 'just move on', we give up and let Katie Hobbs decides who wins AZ in 2024.

Do you like DeSantis' chances under that scenario?
A reminder what's still troubling to me. Fox 5 had Lake up by 11 the day before Election Day. Another poll the day before Fox 5 had Lake up by 10. Lake was never in the game on Election Day. Fishy?
 
A reminder what's still troubling to me. Fox 5 had Lake up by 11 the day before Election Day. Another poll the day before Fox 5 had Lake up by 10. Lake was never in the game on Election Day. Fishy?
No doubt Medicine Man. Sum Ting Wong. In other breaking news I saw an ignored alert right after your post. :rolleyes:

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I think the Dems believe that they have a better shot at beating Trump.
Many thinking Dimms believe they'll have to count on the 2020 Dimm ballot harvesting scheme to beat Trump. Virginia shelved the scheme in 2021. All 3 VA state wide seats flipped to red. I thought VA vote counters would count til a required number was achieved. Election was called on Tuesday night Election Day. Polling tells me majority of Americans have caught on to the 2020 Dimm ballot harvesting scheme.
 
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Many thinking Dimms believe they'll have to count on the 2020 Dimm ballot harvesting scheme to beat Trump. Virginia shelved the scheme in 2021. All 3 VA state wide seats flipped to red. I thought VA vote counters would count til a required number was achieved. Election was called on Tuesday night Election Day. Polling tells me majority of Americans have caught on to the 2020 Dimm ballot harvesting scheme.
Apparently Arizona and Georgia haven't gotten the memo. :mad:
 
A reminder what's still troubling to me. Fox 5 had Lake up by 11 the day before Election Day. Another poll the day before Fox 5 had Lake up by 10. Lake was never in the game on Election Day. Fishy?

Sunny

Rasmussen tells me Lake won

Lake pointed to new polling from Rasmussen Reports that found 51 percent of Arizona voters who said they had voted in the governor's race had cast their ballots for Lake, while 43 percent said they had voted for Hobbs.

The Republican has asked the Arizona state Supreme Court to hear her case challenging the 2022 election after the Arizona Court of Appeals rejected Lake's lawsuit on February 16. Her case focuses on alleged irregularities in Maricopa County.

 
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Do you really think that?

If so, I guess Alvin Bragg didn't get the memo, based on this week's events.
They are absolutely terrified of Trump. I don't know if I've ever seen such political behavior since I've followed politics. Sure, most conservatives hated Kerry, Obama, and the Hildebeast. But if I thought any of them had zero shot of winning an election, I wouldn't waste my every waking moment worrying about them. Trump is an obsessive compulsive disorder with them. They think he has no shot of winning, yet they chase him around like zombies craving brains. 😂 It's totally illogical.

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Do you really think that?

If so, I guess Alvin Bragg didn't get the memo, based on this week's events.

Yes, I think so. They believe that he is less polarizing...less loved by many, less hated by many.

The unknowns, will those who love him less than Trump show up and vote? Will those who hated Trump but are more ambiguous towards DeSantis vote for him?

Tough to predict. It's less difficult to predict how Trump will do in the general imo.

To your point on Bragg, and the MANY like him, yes...Trump scares them and they freaking hate him, unreasonably so. They want their pound of flesh. We see that on this very board.
 
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Unless the coming recession starts before Q4 the Democrat will not be winning the election. If it starts Q3 it will be whether its officialy over mid 2024 whether the Democrat has a chance. It is definitely coming though.
 
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A reminder what's still troubling to me. Fox 5 had Lake up by 11 the day before Election Day. Another poll the day before Fox 5 had Lake up by 10. Lake was never in the game on Election Day. Fishy?
Sadly, we haven't secured the elections. Even more sadly, too many people here throw up their hands, say 'what can I do?' then act shocked every 2 years when the pub that's ahead by 10 points heading into elections, loses by 100k votes a week after election day when all the votes are 'counted'.

We will stop having elections stolen from us when enough people decide to get off their porch. Unfortunately, as long as elections are being stolen from Trump and America First candidates, some people are fine with watching it happen.
 
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Yes, I think so. They believe that he is less polarizing...less loved by many, less hated by many.
No offense, this is why we are in such trouble.

You answered that question as if our elections are secure, and if the voters decide who we elect. If that were the case, then your response makes some sense. I might even agree with it.

You keep asking 'what can I do?' to ensure election integrity.

The first, and most important thing you can do, is admit we need election integrity.

You aren't there yet. Until we ALL recognize the problem, we can't address it.
 
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