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Ukraine!!

OH MY GOD...you libs STOP. The ONLY political party that hates America is YOURS. Your party has sided with America's enemies for 6 decades that I know of. And before we start pointing fingers AGAIN...can someone please show ANY evidence Trump colluded with Russia in 2016? I know there is ZERO evidence..but as outright stupid
 
Are we invading Russia? As far as I know, the only thing being threatened is sanctions.

And Tucker has gone way beyond opposing interventionist foreign policy. He kisses Putin’s задница almost as much as Trump did.
You libs know ZERO about combat and firearm's. Of course this was not widely reported, and from people I KNOW that were there....there were about 3-400 Russian military killed here. Can you name ANY American president that has allowed Russian troops to be killed in battle? I will wait. I know Hussein drew a "line in the sand" that Putin kicked right in his face. I ALSO know we attacked forces for using chemical weapons under Trump....the same exact line Hussein refused to do ANYTHING about. So your lying I just laugh at, because you have ZERO knowledge to what happens in the real world. Too much CNN, son?


 
Are we invading Russia? As far as I know, the only thing being threatened is sanctions.

And Tucker has gone way beyond opposing interventionist foreign policy. He kisses Putin’s задница almost as much as Trump did.

I think the issue is that it appears some here in our government (not saying Biden) appear to be more concerned than many in the Ukrainian government.

I don't believe that Putin will green light a full scale invasion but he will almost certainly authorize incursions. He will also continue to attempt to destabilize Ukraine using cyber and 5th column attacks.

The million dollar question...how should we respond? Tough question.

And no bsc, quasi-authorization via a feckless response is still not the right path forward...but it does sort of take the air out of the room and that will be interesting to watch. I don't believe for a moment that this was Biden's intent however. If it was, Wednesday's comments would not have led to Thursday's pivot.
 
Climb that tree son...



Have you no sense of decency sir? 😂
Yeah, it seems like you are just setting yourself up to criticize Biden no matter what he does.

Don't retaliate. Feckless.
Retaliate. Cost US lives.

I'm on to you.
 
The majority of the board knows scoring order of NavigatorII and his opponent in the intelligence quotient class room. How do we know? Both shout it to us with virtually every post they author.
Ha. It took that dude like 5 tries to pass the CPA exam.

Which is more than you can say about the Mensa test.
 
Ha. It took that dude like 5 tries to pass the CPA exam.

Which is more than you can say about the Mensa test.
No surprise BScuck is lying. Again. In fact, the Business School at UF should be under scrutiny to lose accreditation for ever graduating someone (you) who is a proven pathological liar. 🤣 :rolleyes: If only they read these boards. Tsk Tsk
 
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Yeah, it seems like you are just setting yourself up to criticize Biden no matter what he does.

Don't retaliate. Feckless.
Retaliate. Cost US lives.

I'm on to you.

I criticized his initial response which was feckless and tantamount to permission. His comments on Thursday were better but you cannot un-ring a bell.

As I alluded to above, if I truly believed that Biden's initial comments on Wednesday were an attempt to take the air out of the room thus handicapping Putin’s response and plan, I would say, "that was brilliant!"

...but that simply wasn't the case. If it had been, Thursday's comment never happen. Also, no one in Biden's admin is that clever when it comes to stuff like foreign policy and chess vs checkers.
 
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Interesting..................

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My hunch, it sounds to me like the Ukraine's are trying to take the air out of the room, as I said above.

I believe that because there have been some significant troop movements at the very least. I believe the Ukraine's are trying to head Putin off because they know, or believe, Putin is trying to elicit a response and then use that response as a pretext to something greater.
 
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The swamp/Rats generally believes that if they can get a hot conflict going somewhere in the world (Ukraine), then it's a great distractions from their massive political failures at home.

The 911 event took the National Press Club 'Disclosure Project' right off the front pages, delaying it for 2 decades....
 
I don't see how Candace Owens got "There is quite literally no Russian threat" out of Pizzagate Posobiec's tweet.
She's pointing out that the situation is the same as 9 months ago. That this is Brandon's way of taking our eye off the ball.........which currently is a shitshow at our border as well as his recent failed attempt to transform America.
 
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She's pointing out that the situation is the same as 9 months ago. That this is Brandon's way of taking our eye off the ball.........which currently is a shitshow at our border as well as his recent failed attempt to transform America.

That’s what Posobiec said. Owens took that kernel of information and turned it up to 11.
 
She's pointing out that the situation is the same as 9 months ago. That this is Brandon's way of taking our eye off the ball.........which currently is a shitshow at our border as well as his recent failed attempt to transform America.

The general situation may be the same but there has certainly been a build up of Russian troops.

I think Putin is trying to cause panic with no real plan to do anything. If it doesn't work, I think he will incrementally ramp up the pressure in other ways. He's looking for an excuse.
 
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I have zero clue, none of what you list. I don't know much about any of them except Soros, and I think his influence is more grassroots than top down.

I'd probably guess people from the Obama admin, but I don't know.

The guy creates massive messaging issues for the spokespeople for the WH on most major issues, Ukraine included. If he was making the calls and leading the team that wouldn't happen. Everyone would be on the same page.

You really think a guy who shits his pants and can't go off prompter is managing our foreign policy? Isn't that more scary than someone more competent behind the scenes?
It's Obama and Susan Rice running this country.
 

From the linked article:

That is now, by far, the favorite attack against anyone who believes that Ukrainian borders are not important enough to U.S. interests to involve the U.S. in a war. The most vocal media opponent of U.S. involvement in Ukraine has been Fox News’ Tucker Carlson (though, as usual these days, war skepticism is also found on many Fox shows, including Laura Ingraham's, where I recently appeared to make that case, but almost never on CNN or MSNBC). Carlson, on an almost nightly basis, has posed the question few others in corporate media are willing to ask: why is Ukraine a sufficiently vital interest to the U.S. to risk lives, resources and potentially war with Russia in defense of it?

As punishment for arguing against the neocons’ latest plan to involve the U.S. in a new war, Carlson has been widely vilified as a Kremlin asset or, at best, a mouthpiece. “You're going to hear a lot of lying about Putin's War from Putin apologists on the Carlson right and the Greenwald left,” warned Frum, adding: “Putin apologists in US, UK, Germany, etc. should not be allowed to get away with hanging Putin's War on any other neck.”


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I'll just say that suddenly military intervention is in vogue again with much of the left. Stop listening to neocon (neoliberal?) propaganda.
The Lefties want war, so the problems with the Biden Admin are put aside and hopefully forgotten. It will give the DEMS new hope for the mid-terms and even 2024.
 
The Lefties want war, so the problems with the Biden Admin are put aside and hopefully forgotten. It will give the DEMS new hope for the mid-terms and even 2024.
It would be a way to deflect this bullshit administration's epic failures........but that will ultimately backfire. Instead of a midterm red wave, it will become a blue seppuka bloodbath. 🤣
 
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The general situation may be the same but there has certainly been a build up of Russian troops.

I think Putin is trying to cause panic with no real plan to do anything. If it doesn't work, I think he will incrementally ramp up the pressure in other ways. He's looking for an excuse.
And why exactly would Putin want the now economically destroyed Ukraine?
Between the Russians and Beijing Brandon/Hunter, they've already emptied the Ukraine's coffers....
 
He wants to restore the Soviet empire.
I doubt it really. The unwieldy USSR conglomerate is what destroyed mother Russia's economy to start with, along with the arms race with America. We actually work well together when we have a real leaders that know how to step aside and let their people work together. (see the ISS)

Loose cooperation between the U.S., Russia, and India is what keeps the Chinese from going too far.

China is Russia's only real threat for an invasion now days and even that's not much of a threat.

Any Russian claiming that America is a threat to Russia is either a knowing liar, or a village idiot.
When was the last time that anyone, much less America, even tried to invade Russia?
Ans: Left wing Germany's Democratic Socialist Nazi Party, and look how that turned out....
 
I doubt it really. The unwieldy USSR conglomerate is what destroyed mother Russia's economy to start with, along with the arms race with America. We actually work well together when we have a real leaders that know how to step aside and let their people work together. (see the ISS)

Loose cooperation between the U.S., Russia, and India is what keeps the Chinese from going too far.

China is Russia's only real threat for an invasion now days and even that's not much of a threat.

Any Russian claiming that America is a threat to Russia is either a knowing liar, or a village idiot.
When was the last time that anyone, much less America, even tried to invade Russia?
Ans: Left wing Germany's Democratic Socialist Nazi Party, and look how that turned out....

Putin is a die-hard Soviet apologist. I'm not saying he wants it all back but certainly places like Ukraine and Estonia.
 
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